Japonska je peta država, ki je pristala na Luni

Če se ne motim je prof. Matko v preteklosti sodeloval z Japonci. Imamo mogoče pri tem projektu tudi kakšnega "našega", ki je bil zraven?

Sam jih pa imate jajca da si na tehničnem forumu upate s takimi no...

delavec44 je 21. jan 2024 ob 14:24 izjavil:

In kaj potem, če naredijo vse na novo. Hočeš reči, da je 50 let stara tehnologija boljša od nove sedaj?

In zelo čudno je, da so za najpomembnejši dogodek človeštva v zgodovini do sedaj izgubili vse. Posnetke, podatke, tehnologijo, znanje, ljudi.

Če si vsaj malo priseben, ti je jasno, kako nategujejo ves svet. Vsi ostali, ki pa slepo verjamejo neki nasi, ki dobi 60mio NA DAN davkoplačevalskega denarja, pa sanjajte naprej. Pa lep dan.

husky1 je 22. jan 2024 ob 09:03 izjavil:

delavec44 je 21. jan 2024 ob 14:24 izjavil:

In kaj potem, če naredijo vse na novo. Hočeš reči, da je 50 let stara tehnologija boljša od nove sedaj?

In zelo čudno je, da so za najpomembnejši dogodek človeštva v zgodovini do sedaj izgubili vse. Posnetke, podatke, tehnologijo, znanje, ljudi.

Če si vsaj malo priseben, ti je jasno, kako nategujejo ves svet. Vsi ostali, ki pa slepo verjamejo neki nasi, ki dobi 60mio NA DAN davkoplačevalskega denarja, pa sanjajte naprej. Pa lep dan.

Da si sposoben tako omejenega pogleda po 15 letih na Slo-techu, je zelo žalostno.
Morali bi uvesti IQ test pri registraciji in postavit mejo na vsaj 90.

Ali sodobni računalniki/telefoni tudi ne obstajajo? Ali se zavedate, kako majhno je to? Na cm2 je 100 miljard tranzistorjev! To je daleč bolj neverjetno, kot pa sam polet na luno.

PrihajaNodi je 22. jan 2024 ob 12:26 izjavil:

Kontrola, kontrola. Še nikoli v zgodovini človeštva ni bilo lažje kontrolirati ovc.

Oh the irony is lost on you, isn't it?

V Romuniji jih dosti bolj uspešno konrolirajo. Poglejte opranega Nodija, kako hvali indijo romandijo.

Pithlit je 22. jan 2024 ob 12:32 izjavil:

PrihajaNodi je 22. jan 2024 ob 12:31 izjavil:

Sej veš tisto, ko si v peklu pa te idioti nazaj v lonc potisnejo?

Nihče ti ne brani da se odklopiš. Izvoli.

Kako da ne? Zato pa imamo vojsko, policijo in davkepa agendo s katero rišejo kako so na luni.Aja, tehnologija se je vmes zgubila, zato indijci še pametnega CGI - ja niso sposobni skup spacat...

Odvisno. Zavzameš neko stališče, ki te dela 'pametnega' in potem sam določaš.

Pithlit je 22. jan 2024 ob 12:55 izjavil:

Machete je 22. jan 2024 ob 12:53 izjavil:

Odvisno. Zavzameš neko stališče, ki te dela 'pametnega' in potem sam določaš.

Po mojem zadostuje če se v Romunijo preseliš. Take Indije koromandije ne najdeš nikjer drugje.

Vsaj dohtarja dobiš pa ne čakaš in plačuješ kot v sloveniji ki stavkajo in so plačani zato. ah pa to je že druga tema butal.

No ja, tema je vsaj zabavna... ko se imajo teoretiki zarot za hudo inteligentne ker so edini ki vidijo resnico. So woke.

U srednjem veku tudi, ko si je nekdo kar izmislil da je zemlja "okrogla". Mater kakšni komedijanti so bli. Nodi pa še kr ovco špila.

V glavnem bili smo na luni 50 let nazaj, imeli smo broadcast live z manjšim zamokom kot ga ima Pero Martič danes.

Sej ne vem, če ima smisel navajati takim. Priporočam da translate uporabite, če ne gre Angleščina. Sej je zelo poljubno napisano. Še v normalnih podjetjih se tehnologija konstantno "izgublja" in to prej kot v desetletju. Ponavadi je dosti, da samo par ljudi gre, ali se kakšnemu kaj zgudi. Vsega znanja ne moreš vedno prenest na papir. Hitro prideš do točke, kjer je bolje štartat od začetka, če ne konstantno nadgrajuješ. Pa še tam je vseeno včasih bolje štartat iz nule. Kolikokrat so bili windowsi pisani praktično od začetka?

Why does it take three years to develop a new car, when it shares 90% of its "DNA" with the previous model? Why does it take six years to develop a new airplane when it shares 90% of its "DNA" with the previous model?

The answer is that they are complex devices. A launch vehicle and spacecraft destined to go to the moon is much more complex and operates at the edge of the envelope where there is little tolerance for imprecision and error.

When operating on the edge of the envelope, thousands and thousands of hours go into testing and tweaking. The development and operations teams acquire expertise that no one else on the planet has. The vehicle cannot be built or operated without that expertise.

Operating a space mission involves reams of paper in the forms of flight rules and operational procedures. Those rules and procedures are drafted over thousands of hours of test and simulations. A change in the vehicle can send ripples of changes through those documents.

The Saturn V rocket had over three million parts. The command and service modules and lunar module were composed of millions of additional parts. An individual person cannot contemplate the scale of detail needed to assemble and operate those vehicles.

So, when the Apollo program ended, the factories that assembled those vehicles were retasked or shut down. The jigs were disassembled. The molds were destroyed. The technicians, engineers, scientists, and flight controllers moved onto other jobs. Over time, some of the materials used became obsolete.

If we, today, said - "Let us build another Saturn V rocket and Apollo CSM/LEM and go to the moon!" it would not be a simple task of pulling out the blueprints and bending and cutting metal.

We don't have the factories or tools. We don't have the materials. We don't have the expertise to understand how the real vehicle differed from the drawings. We don't have the expertise to operate the vehicle.

We would have to substitute modern materials. That changes the vehicle. It changes the mass, it changes the stresses and strains, it changes the interactions. It changes the possible malfunctions. It changes the capabilities of the vehicle.

We would have to spend a few years re-developing the expertise. We would have to conduct new tests and simulations. We would have to draft new flight rules and procedures. We would have to certify new flight controllers and crew.

We would essentially be building a new vehicle.

And that's what we are doing. As similar as Orion looks to an Apollo Command Module, as much as we think we understand heat shields and parachute deploy systems - we have to understand these specific heat shields and parachute deploy systems. NASA has people doing these tests, every day.

Magic1 je 22. jan 2024 ob 17:27 izjavil:

Sej ne vem, če ima smisel navajati takim. Priporočam da translate uporabite, če ne gre Angleščina. Sej je zelo poljubno napisano. Še v normalnih podjetjih se tehnologija konstantno "izgublja" in to prej kot v desetletju. Ponavadi je dosti, da samo par ljudi gre, ali se kakšnemu kaj zgudi. Vsega znanja ne moreš vedno prenest na papir. Hitro prideš do točke, kjer je bolje štartat od začetka, če ne konstantno nadgrajuješ. Pa še tam je vseeno včasih bolje štartat iz nule. Kolikokrat so bili windowsi pisani praktično od začetka?

Why does it take three years to develop a new car, when it shares 90% of its "DNA" with the previous model? Why does it take six years to develop a new airplane when it shares 90% of its "DNA" with the previous model?

The answer is that they are complex devices. A launch vehicle and spacecraft destined to go to the moon is much more complex and operates at the edge of the envelope where there is little tolerance for imprecision and error.

When operating on the edge of the envelope, thousands and thousands of hours go into testing and tweaking. The development and operations teams acquire expertise that no one else on the planet has. The vehicle cannot be built or operated without that expertise.

Operating a space mission involves reams of paper in the forms of flight rules and operational procedures. Those rules and procedures are drafted over thousands of hours of test and simulations. A change in the vehicle can send ripples of changes through those documents.

The Saturn V rocket had over three million parts. The command and service modules and lunar module were composed of millions of additional parts. An individual person cannot contemplate the scale of detail needed to assemble and operate those vehicles.

So, when the Apollo program ended, the factories that assembled those vehicles were retasked or shut down. The jigs were disassembled. The molds were destroyed. The technicians, engineers, scientists, and flight controllers moved onto other jobs. Over time, some of the materials used became obsolete.

If we, today, said - "Let us build another Saturn V rocket and Apollo CSM/LEM and go to the moon!" it would not be a simple task of pulling out the blueprints and bending and cutting metal.

We don't have the factories or tools. We don't have the materials. We don't have the expertise to understand how the real vehicle differed from the drawings. We don't have the expertise to operate the vehicle.

We would have to substitute modern materials. That changes the vehicle. It changes the mass, it changes the stresses and strains, it changes the interactions. It changes the possible malfunctions. It changes the capabilities of the vehicle.

We would have to spend a few years re-developing the expertise. We would have to conduct new tests and simulations. We would have to draft new flight rules and procedures. We would have to certify new flight controllers and crew.

We would essentially be building a new vehicle.

And that's what we are doing. As similar as Orion looks to an Apollo Command Module, as much as we think we understand heat shields and parachute deploy systems - we have to understand these specific heat shields and parachute deploy systems. NASA has people doing these tests, every day.

Ce gres na dark net lahko prberes da majo v area 51 tehnologijo od vesolcev.