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Katero cepivo kovid?
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Slopek ::
HappyPills je izjavil:
Hmm kje pa piše, da je cepivo 100% učinkovito. Ne najdem tega infa.
Jure res je. Sploh zaradi teh novih sevov, se je sploh potrebno cepit, a cepivo pri njih ne pali najbolje
HappyPills ::
HappyPills je izjavil:
Hmm kje pa piše, da je cepivo 100% učinkovito. Ne najdem tega infa.
Jure res je. Sploh zaradi teh novih sevov, se je sploh potrebno cepit, a cepivo pri njih ne pali najbolje
Kako da ne. Cepivo prepreči hujši potek. Je pa ksilica, ker te naravna prekuženost ne bo preprečila, da boš še 1x zbolel in to lahko tudi s težkim potekom. Še en razlog več za cepite se :). No če hočte al pa da vidimo, koliko vas bo prefuralo 2x z lažjo obliko. Ruleta.
Invictus ::
Tudi cepivo ne zagotavlja, da ne boš večkrat zbolel. Pa še vedno lahko okužiš druge.
Tako, da bi morali vsi cepljeni v karanteno...
Tako, da bi morali vsi cepljeni v karanteno...
"Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid."
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http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
mahoni ::
HappyPills je izjavil:
HappyPills je izjavil:
Hmm kje pa piše, da je cepivo 100% učinkovito. Ne najdem tega infa.
Jure res je. Sploh zaradi teh novih sevov, se je sploh potrebno cepit, a cepivo pri njih ne pali najbolje
Kako da ne. Cepivo prepreči hujši potek. Je pa ksilica, ker te naravna prekuženost ne bo preprečila, da boš še 1x zbolel in to lahko tudi s težkim potekom. Še en razlog več za cepite se :). No če hočte al pa da vidimo, koliko vas bo prefuralo 2x z lažjo obliko. Ruleta.
Ce 1x zbolis in se je telo izborilo iz nule, zakaj bi potem bil drugi potek se tezji, ce ima v drugem telo se dodatno orozje? Ni logike, samo vlivate strah ljudem.
Se pa pojavlja tu eno glavno vprasanje.
Kolikokrat se bom moral cepiti, da imam mir od tega kovida? Ni vazna kera vakcina. Samo mi to povej.
Tu je bil nesramen podpis, ki mi je prislužil naziv, ampak mi dol visi za tem.
6151 ::
HappyPills je izjavil:
HappyPills je izjavil:
Hmm kje pa piše, da je cepivo 100% učinkovito. Ne najdem tega infa.
Jure res je. Sploh zaradi teh novih sevov, se je sploh potrebno cepit, a cepivo pri njih ne pali najbolje
Kako da ne. Cepivo prepreči hujši potek. Je pa ksilica, ker te naravna prekuženost ne bo preprečila, da boš še 1x zbolel in to lahko tudi s težkim potekom. Še en razlog več za cepite se :). No če hočte al pa da vidimo, koliko vas bo prefuralo 2x z lažjo obliko. Ruleta.
Ce 1x zbolis in se je telo izborilo iz nule, zakaj bi potem bil drugi potek se tezji, ce ima v drugem telo se dodatno orozje? Ni logike, samo vlivate strah ljudem.
Se pa pojavlja tu eno glavno vprasanje.
Kolikokrat se bom moral cepiti, da imam mir od tega kovida? Ni vazna kera vakcina. Samo mi to povej.
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mahoni ::
Vsaj 2x letos. Potem pa spet sezonsko?
Tu je bil nesramen podpis, ki mi je prislužil naziv, ampak mi dol visi za tem.
sbawe64 ::
V Izraelu pravijo, da je smrtnost zaradi cepljenja vsaj 200 krat višja od tiste zaradi obolelosti. Ima kdo kak boljši link od gugl translejta?
https://med.over.net/forum5/viewtopic.p...
http://www.nakim.org/israel-forums/view...
2020 is new 1984
Corona World order
Corona World order
mahoni ::
Vsaj 2x letos. Potem pa spet sezonsko?
Morda. Mene ne moti.
Mene pa to full moti ter dokazuje, da je to le se en prehlad in ne like "crne koze".
Tu je bil nesramen podpis, ki mi je prislužil naziv, ampak mi dol visi za tem.
Hemi426 ::
V Izraelu pravijo, da je smrtnost zaradi cepljenja vsaj 200 krat višja od tiste zaradi obolelosti. Ima kdo kak boljši link od gugl translejta?
https://med.over.net/forum5/viewtopic.p...
http://www.nakim.org/israel-forums/view...
Uf kako zelo presenetljivo!
*surprised Pikachu face*
6151 ::
Vsaj 2x letos. Potem pa spet sezonsko?
Morda. Mene ne moti.
Mene pa to full moti ter dokazuje, da je to le se en prehlad in ne like "crne koze".
torej je KME tudi prehlad in ne like "črne koze" ?
3600 | 32GB | 6800 | 1+3TB
Pac-Man ::
Na dolgo o EU kupovanju cepiv, ravno berem. Is good, bere se kot kriminalka.
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-...
sampl:
IN ITS VACCINE NEGOTIATIONS, Gallina and her team put great importance on three things: a wide selection of potential vaccines, low prices for each jab, and that drugmakers would bear legal responsibility if anything went wrong.
They tackled the latter point, liability, from the get-go. “We knew already that that was likely to prove a difficult subject,” said the Commission official close to the negotiations.
Immediately, the big multinational pharma players launched what looked to the EU negotiators like a coordinated effort to secure protections in case something unexpected went wrong with their vaccines after they hit the market.
A 15-year-old American law, known as the PREP Act, shields manufacturers from being taken to court in the U.S. if something goes wrong with a vaccine or medicine they make to respond to an emergency — and other U.S. programs limit and cover potential damages.
Drugmakers wanted similar cover in the EU, but the Commission didn’t want to give it to them.
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-...
sampl:
IN ITS VACCINE NEGOTIATIONS, Gallina and her team put great importance on three things: a wide selection of potential vaccines, low prices for each jab, and that drugmakers would bear legal responsibility if anything went wrong.
They tackled the latter point, liability, from the get-go. “We knew already that that was likely to prove a difficult subject,” said the Commission official close to the negotiations.
Immediately, the big multinational pharma players launched what looked to the EU negotiators like a coordinated effort to secure protections in case something unexpected went wrong with their vaccines after they hit the market.
A 15-year-old American law, known as the PREP Act, shields manufacturers from being taken to court in the U.S. if something goes wrong with a vaccine or medicine they make to respond to an emergency — and other U.S. programs limit and cover potential damages.
Drugmakers wanted similar cover in the EU, but the Commission didn’t want to give it to them.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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sbawe64 ::
Na dolgo o EU kupovanju cepiv, ravno berem. Is good, bere se kot kriminalka.
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-...
sampl:
IN ITS VACCINE NEGOTIATIONS, Gallina and her team put great importance on three things: a wide selection of potential vaccines, low prices for each jab, and that drugmakers would bear legal responsibility if anything went wrong.
They tackled the latter point, liability, from the get-go. “We knew already that that was likely to prove a difficult subject,” said the Commission official close to the negotiations.
Immediately, the big multinational pharma players launched what looked to the EU negotiators like a coordinated effort to secure protections in case something unexpected went wrong with their vaccines after they hit the market.
A 15-year-old American law, known as the PREP Act, shields manufacturers from being taken to court in the U.S. if something goes wrong with a vaccine or medicine they make to respond to an emergency — and other U.S. programs limit and cover potential damages.
Drugmakers wanted similar cover in the EU, but the Commission didn’t want to give it to them.
PREP Act ni omejen samo na drugo stran luže.Sem že pisal o tem.Proizvajalci so oprani odgovornosti, morebitne odškodnine krije posamična država.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-heal...
UK
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heal...
ZDA
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-v...
Južna Amerika, Peru
https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/i...
2020 is new 1984
Corona World order
Corona World order
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Pac-Man ::
PREP Act ni omejen samo na drugo stran luže.Sem že pisal o tem.Proizvajalci so oprani odgovornosti, morebitne odškodnine krije posamična država.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-heal...
Iz članka, nadaljevanje:
Europe is the world’s epicenter of vaccine skepticism. Even before the coronavirus prompted wild conspiracy theories about Bill Gates using jabs to implant humans with computer chips, Europeans were increasingly mistrustful of inoculations. A June poll found just 56 percent of Poles and 59 percent of French would take a “safe and effective” coronavirus vaccine; only Russia had lower acceptance rates in the survey of 19 countries.
Both sides tried to use Europe’s vaccine skepticism to their advantage. Lobbyists and lawyers for Big Pharma argued that public lawsuits for every accusation would only fuel concerns about vaccines. Instead, they urged a no-fault compensation system that would pay damages without a fuss.
The lobbying backfired. A memo circulated by the industry group Vaccines Europe calling for liability protection made its way to the Financial Times on August 26. Gallina was soon called into the European Parliament, where she repeatedly promised that drugmakers would remain responsible for any problems, even though the issue was proving a sticking point.
“Perhaps some others — not the EU, but some others — have done other approaches on liability,” she told members of Parliament. “But we knew that vaccines are an emotional issue. Nobody can trust the vaccines when you have cut the corners.”
The Commission was willing to compromise, by covering some of the legal bills and damages to drugmakers if unexpected problems emerged. But hashing out those terms dragged out the process, and in the end, each agreement was bespoke. For companies that agreed to sell vaccines at cost, the so-called indemnity protections were fairly generous. Those seeking a profit would have to fend more for themselves.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
ajdov ::
PREP Act ni omejen samo na drugo stran luže.Sem že pisal o tem.Proizvajalci so oprani odgovornosti, morebitne odškodnine krije posamična država.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-heal...
Iz članka, nadaljevanje:
Europe is the world’s epicenter of vaccine skepticism. Even before the coronavirus prompted wild conspiracy theories about Bill Gates using jabs to implant humans with computer chips, Europeans were increasingly mistrustful of inoculations. A June poll found just 56 percent of Poles and 59 percent of French would take a “safe and effective” coronavirus vaccine; only Russia had lower acceptance rates in the survey of 19 countries.
Both sides tried to use Europe’s vaccine skepticism to their advantage. Lobbyists and lawyers for Big Pharma argued that public lawsuits for every accusation would only fuel concerns about vaccines. Instead, they urged a no-fault compensation system that would pay damages without a fuss.
The lobbying backfired. A memo circulated by the industry group Vaccines Europe calling for liability protection made its way to the Financial Times on August 26. Gallina was soon called into the European Parliament, where she repeatedly promised that drugmakers would remain responsible for any problems, even though the issue was proving a sticking point.
“Perhaps some others — not the EU, but some others — have done other approaches on liability,” she told members of Parliament. “But we knew that vaccines are an emotional issue. Nobody can trust the vaccines when you have cut the corners.”
The Commission was willing to compromise, by covering some of the legal bills and damages to drugmakers if unexpected problems emerged. But hashing out those terms dragged out the process, and in the end, each agreement was bespoke. For companies that agreed to sell vaccines at cost, the so-called indemnity protections were fairly generous. Those seeking a profit would have to fend more for themselves.
Če cepiva prodajajo, naj gre pač od vsake doze 5 eur na stran in naj se iz tako nabranega denarja izplačujejo odškodnine. Če so cepiva res varna, bo teh odškodnin tako malo, da se bo lepo pokrilo.
mahoni ::
https://www.24ur.com/novice/korona/cepi...
Medtem pa so iz drugega ameriškega farmacevtska podjetja Moderne sporočili, da so začeli s testiranjem poskusnega cepiva proti mutacijam novega koronavirusa. Hkrati preizkušajo, ali bi morda proti novim različicam virusa zadostovalo cepljenje s tremi namesto z dvema odmerkoma cepiva.
OMG
Dejmo probat kar s tremi odmerki...mogoce pa bo delovalo.
Medtem pa so iz drugega ameriškega farmacevtska podjetja Moderne sporočili, da so začeli s testiranjem poskusnega cepiva proti mutacijam novega koronavirusa. Hkrati preizkušajo, ali bi morda proti novim različicam virusa zadostovalo cepljenje s tremi namesto z dvema odmerkoma cepiva.
OMG
Dejmo probat kar s tremi odmerki...mogoce pa bo delovalo.
Tu je bil nesramen podpis, ki mi je prislužil naziv, ampak mi dol visi za tem.
rusilec ::
https://www.24ur.com/novice/korona/cepi...
Medtem pa so iz drugega ameriškega farmacevtska podjetja Moderne sporočili, da so začeli s testiranjem poskusnega cepiva proti mutacijam novega koronavirusa. Hkrati preizkušajo, ali bi morda proti novim različicam virusa zadostovalo cepljenje s tremi namesto z dvema odmerkoma cepiva.
OMG
Dejmo probat kar s tremi odmerki...mogoce pa bo delovalo.
Se bomo raje kar prekužili, tu je še najmanj stranskih učinkov.
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mahoni ::
No, tudi prekuziti se bo tezko. Evo do sedaj bi moral biti vsaj vsak 4ti zemljan prekuzen, ampak ni tako.
Zato pa sopajo s temi vakcinami...
Zato pa sopajo s temi vakcinami...
Tu je bil nesramen podpis, ki mi je prislužil naziv, ampak mi dol visi za tem.
Smrekar1 ::
Za katero cepivo se boste odlocili, ko pride obvezno cepljenje?
Nobenega. Dobil sem Pfizerja in imam kartico (sicer v angleščini, ampak velja). Go Secretary of State!
Jaz se bom, ce bom sploh imel na izbiro, cepil s Sputnik cepivom, ker baje ni narejen na osnovi mRNA in je "starejsega" kova cepivo.
Sputnik V je istega kova kot AstraZeneca.
mahoni ::
https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/paso...
Evo Sputnik odpade za EU. Se en razlog, da gre za najboljso izmed najslabsih vakcin.
Evo Sputnik odpade za EU. Se en razlog, da gre za najboljso izmed najslabsih vakcin.
Tu je bil nesramen podpis, ki mi je prislužil naziv, ampak mi dol visi za tem.
Vetrpiha ::
Heisenberg je izjavil:
@Heisenberg, ker ne vem, kako poteka cepljenje v .at, (če že cepijo otroke, če cepijo celo družino v paketu, itd...) vzamem zapisano nazaj, pri nas pa glede na potek cepljenja, iz večih razlogov tisto zgoraj ta moment praktično ni mogoče, da bi se zgodilo.
Jaz pa ravno za SLO nimam pojma.
Ker delam deloma v zdravstvu v Avstriji, je prva anketa za cepljenje prišla pred ca. 1 mesecem.
Prvi so se tudi že cepili.
Sam bom defeinitvno med zadnjmi ali NIKOLI.
Od teh, ki so se cepili ima 1/3 stranske učinke.
Vsak hujsi prehlad ti da 37.5 "vrocine".
hendriks ::
Sputnik V še ni odobren, ker še vedno preverjajo dokumentacijo. To pač EMA dela (se strinjam da so malce počasni). Bi bil pa presenečen, če ga ne bodo odobrili. Ker kolikor sem gledal članek v Lancet, gre za povsem vredu cepivo. Edino kar me moti je, da so vsa klinična testiranja potekala na ruski populaciji (nikjer ne piše, da so cepivo testirali na različnih etničnih skupinah) in pa to, da so ga v Rusiji odobrili že po prvi fazi (od treh) testiranja.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc...
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc...
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Hemi426 ::
https://www.rtvslo.si/zdravje/novi-koro...
Pfizer in Biotech sedaj testirata 3. odmerek in to testiranje naj bi trajalo vsaj 2 leti.
Po eni strani je razumljivo, zaradi mutacij, ampak!, to situacijo so že mesece nazaj razlagali nekateri "teoretiki zarot" na tem forumu z uporabo kmečke pameti.
Cepiva so preprosto bila prehitro razvita brez pravega dolgoročnega testiranja.
Treba je bilo nekaj hitro postaviti na trg, preprosto zaradi obeta zaslužka.
Pfizer in Biotech sedaj testirata 3. odmerek in to testiranje naj bi trajalo vsaj 2 leti.
Po eni strani je razumljivo, zaradi mutacij, ampak!, to situacijo so že mesece nazaj razlagali nekateri "teoretiki zarot" na tem forumu z uporabo kmečke pameti.
Cepiva so preprosto bila prehitro razvita brez pravega dolgoročnega testiranja.
Treba je bilo nekaj hitro postaviti na trg, preprosto zaradi obeta zaslužka.
Badwolff ::
https://www.rtvslo.si/zdravje/novi-koro...
Pfizer in Biotech sedaj testirata 3. odmerek in to testiranje naj bi trajalo vsaj 2 leti.
Po eni strani je razumljivo, zaradi mutacij, ampak!, to situacijo so že mesece nazaj razlagali nekateri "teoretiki zarot" na tem forumu z uporabo kmečke pameti.
Cepiva so preprosto bila prehitro razvita brez pravega dolgoročnega testiranja.
Treba je bilo nekaj hitro postaviti na trg, preprosto zaradi obeta zaslužka.
Ja, potrebno je bilo nekaj ni hitro postavit, cel svet, minus kak %, je to zahteval.
Miki N ::
Mediji so dejansko obupani do te mere, da dobivaš ven take:
https://www.24ur.com/novice/dejstva/bi-...
Po svoje se mi ti "oblikovalci javnega mnenja" kar smilijo .... Hecam se - itak da se mi ne.
Ampak še enkrat ... pomankanje idej je daleč največji problem te epidemije ;)
https://www.24ur.com/novice/dejstva/bi-...
Po svoje se mi ti "oblikovalci javnega mnenja" kar smilijo .... Hecam se - itak da se mi ne.
Ampak še enkrat ... pomankanje idej je daleč največji problem te epidemije ;)
mahoni ::
Mediji so dejansko obupani do te mere, da dobivaš ven take:
https://www.24ur.com/novice/dejstva/bi-...
Po svoje se mi ti "oblikovalci javnega mnenja" kar smilijo .... Hecam se - itak da se mi ne.
Ampak še enkrat ... pomankanje idej je daleč največji problem te epidemije ;)
Sem ze nestetokrat na tem forumu povedal, ce bi bil ta kovid tipa kot iz filma Contagion, sploh teh tem ne bi bilo, ampak bi bilo govora "a ve kdo kako priti do Srbije, da se cimprej cepim s Sputnikom"...like this ipd.
Tu je bil nesramen podpis, ki mi je prislužil naziv, ampak mi dol visi za tem.
Slopek ::
Ti kar lepo spusti ta rokav. To ti pravimo. Tebe nihče ne drži.
Medtem pa se predstavniki ameriške vojske pritožujejo nad zahtevami Kitajcev, ki bi radi njihove analne vzorce. Sevedq to zanikajo, vzorce so pa vseeno dobili
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co...
Medtem pa se predstavniki ameriške vojske pritožujejo nad zahtevami Kitajcev, ki bi radi njihove analne vzorce. Sevedq to zanikajo, vzorce so pa vseeno dobili
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co...
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