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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

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Pac-Man ::

Letališče na Google Earth deluje v dobrem stanju, vendar večinoma prazno, je pa zraven kompleks, ki zgleda kot skladišče jedrskega orožja. In res:

Soltsy-2 (air base) @ Wikipedia

Natural Resources Defense Council lists Soltsy-2 as a nuclear weapons facility.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Lesoto ::

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/sta...

Borrell: "Russia is an economic dwarf, a gas station with an atomic bomb"
"Putin is going to sacrifice his people and his army for his personal and political survival, which is why it is so difficult to negotiate peace"



so true...

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Pac-Man ::

Špekulacija:

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status...

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While some media sources are claiming that either Tu-22m3 or a fuel depot were hit. The smoke rising from is the wrong color for that.

Burning jet fuel is black.

The smoke rising from the VKS Soltsi military airfield isn't black. What's burning?

The answer is a bunch of these. These are Kh-22 (or X-22) anti-ship cruise missiles used on Cold War Backfire bomber to hunt USN Carriers.

Their warheads use the plastic explosive known as RDX.

The smoke over Soltsi military airfield is consistent with burning RDX.

While my "Google-fu" is weak. It is good enough to get a map of Soltsi military airfield.

There are dozens of Kh-22 & Kh-22 sized cylinders racked in the open to the left of the close up image below - a sitting duck target.

The Kh-22 are usually stored unfuelled, because it has the same hypergolic propellent as the S-200's 5V28 SAM.

Propellant:

Storable Hypergolic Fuel: Tonka (TG-02) aka R-Stoff ( 50% triethylamine and 50% xylidine )

Oxidizer: AK-20K aka red fuming nitric acid (RFNA)

The TG-02/AK-20K propellent mixture burns black as coal, just like jet fuel.

And since there were no reported evacuation orders at Soltsi.

Which is a absolute requirement for a TG-02/AK-20K fire, because no one is going to survive breathing unfiltered RFNA particulates.

Unfuelled Kh-22 missiles were destroyed in this drone strike at Soltsi military airfield.

Given a range of more than 650 km from the border with Ukraine for this strike.

We are seeing a new generation of precise AFU drone munitions arriving.


The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

- "How's that offensive going?"

- "Pretty well, actually."

https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/16...

Russians on the southern front are whining that the Ukrainian Army has advanced several kilometers and are crushing them with a level of artillery "a disparity of which we haven't seen for a long time".

Folks, turn off the western media bullshit, Ukraine is killing it.

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Lesoto ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Špekulacija:

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status...


Precej logično, da so ciljali te rakete, ki jih je nato razmetalo naokoli, tudi v zraven parkirana letala.

Nikec3 ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

- "How's that offensive going?"

- "Pretty well, actually."

https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/16...

Russians on the southern front are whining that the Ukrainian Army has advanced several kilometers and are crushing them with a level of artillery "a disparity of which we haven't seen for a long time".

Folks, turn off the western media bullshit, Ukraine is killing it.


Drži. Če bi protiofenziva napredovala še malo boljše kot trenutno, bi to praktično že pomenilo razpad ruske fronte, kar pa realno ni bilo za pričakovat v treh mesecih. Žrtev na obeh straneh sicer ne poznamo, načeloma ima napadalec višje žrtve od tistega, ki se brani, ampak glede na relativno previdno taktiko Ukrajincev dvomim, da imajo na UKR strani od začetka ofenzive večje žrtve od Rusov. Dejstvo je tudi, da Ukrajina napreduje, Rusija se brani in v takih pogojih ni logično, da bi Ukrajinci želeli kaka pogajanja. Pogajanja navadno zahteva tisti, ki izgublja.

Se pa na tej točki realno sprašujem, kjer je točka konca te vojne. Putin je tukaj resen problem, ker tudi če Ukrajinci zasedejo vso svoje ozemlje, Rusi verjetno ne bodo odnehali. Tudi, če Ukrajina zaseže vso ozemlje, bodo Rusi verjetno še naprej raketirali Ukrajinsko ozemlje, da bodo lahko domači javnosti še vedno prodajali zgodbo, kako "osvobajajo Ukrajino". Taka nizko intenzivna vojna se lahko vleče še desetletje, oziroma edini konec vidim v koncu Putinovega režima. A kdo vidi kako drugo opcijo za konec vojne?
@WarpedOne o Elonu Musku:
"ST inteligenca serijskemu izdelovalcu "čudežev" očita pomanjkanje inteligence"

Comandante ::

bodo Rusi verjetno še naprej raketirali Ukrajinsko ozemlje

To igro lahko igrata dva. Eden je opremljen s sodobno zahodno protizracno tehniko, drugi pa ne.

Lonsarg ::

Konec vojne bo, ko bo frontna linija stabilizirana, kjerkoli to že bo. Ko bo dosežen pat položaj in ko bo šlo zgolj še za medsebojno izčrpavanje sem prepričan da bo tudi Ukrajina začela manj strogo izbirati cilje in bo za tarčo tudi kaka "infrastruktura ki ima vojaško vrednost", naprimer Rusko električno omrežje okoli Moskve ;)

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BorutO ::

Še vedno ne vem, zakaj jim ukrajinci ne vrnejo milo za žajfo s tem, ko ne napadajo z droni infrastrukturo ... v "prazno" letijo v moskvo, kjer skoraj vedno končajo na tleh brez večjih poškodb ... napadajo naj elektrarne, kjer bo gospodarska škoda še večja ... treba bo popraviti elektrarno, da bodo podjetja imela elektriko, ki trenutno delajo za vojsko ali kar koli ... samo da jim na tistem delu gospodarstvo malo obstane ... pa čeprav le za trenutek.

Pac-Man ::

video s podnapisi

https://twitter.com/KrzysztofJano15/sta...

"The Pole was taken prisoner. He walked and laughed. The boy said: "On your knees" and shot him in the head."

The Wagnerian talks calmly, with a smile, about the execution of a captured and unarmed Pole by mercenaries.

Mikhail Antipov was sentenced to 17 years for the murder of two people. He was in penal colony No. 2 (Mervino, Ryazan). There are 3.5 years left until the end of the sentence. He signed with PMC Wagner, he was a stormtrooper.

Now the scoundrel brags about his "military exploits" and thus adds to the list of evidence of PMC "Wagner" crimes for the future tribunal.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/ryanmofarrell/statu...

Interesting and telling that Putin’s (rather fascist) mandatory college course on Russia as a “civilization state” lists seven poles in the emerging multipolar order and none of them include Africa, and at best lump Latin America in with the West.

So much for the global south.



cel članek:

‘The Russian world cannot be contained by state borders’
A required college course will teach Russia’s students that their country is a civilization unto itself
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

BorutO ::

No evo, kakšna slika je Zahod proti rusiji ... partnerke Zahoda imajo gospodarske rasti in so stalno na zeleni veji, med tem, ko so partnerji rusije na veliko slabšem ... Evo, zdaj Kitajcem gre zelo slabo v gospodarski rasti. In so pri njih že skrb vzbujajoče ... Zahod ima tako moč v gospodarstvu, da lahko gospodarsko uničijo vsako državo.

Recimo rubelj bi po pravem mogel biti vsaj dvesto evrov ali več vreden, ampak na srečo so ga rusi umaknili iz trgovanja .... ampak stanje se jim bo še zelo poslabšalo, ko ga bodo enkrat mogli dati nazaj v trgovanje.

MadMen ::

BorutO ::

Ruska jajca :)

nejodagreat ::

Lancet-25

Lesoto ::

Po moje nam niso povedali vse po pravici glede misije te Lune-25.
Čisto možno, da je iskala kupolo od ruskega T-72 v Ukrajini, ki jo katapultiralo najdlje proti Luni.

Lesoto ::

ukrajinci.. lol

Lesoto ::

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/sta...
The Netherlands will provide 42 F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine after training our pilots and engineers, -- President Zelensky


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https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/16...
A Russian Tu-22M3 strategic bomber was destroyed whilst stationed at the Soltsy air base in Novgorod Oblast - 650km+ from the border with Ukraine.
Yesterday the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that the bomber "was damaged by a Ukrainian quadcopter UAV".

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Nikec3 ::

MadMen je izjavil:

Russia's Luna-25 Spacecraft Destroyed as It Crashes Into Moon

Realno, se ta zadeva lahko zgodi tudi ZDA. Ampak v Rusiji je tega toliko, da je vsem jasno kaj je problem - laži od navadnih inženirjev navzgor. Namesto realnega poročanja o stanju, se iz strahu pred nadrejenimi v Rusiji vedno lažejo, da je vse ok. Ko šef vpraša "a smo perajt za Luno" inženirji rečejo, da je vse ok. Enako je bilo pri Chernobilu. Vpraša šef, a vse štima? "Ja šefe, vse je super".
@WarpedOne o Elonu Musku:
"ST inteligenca serijskemu izdelovalcu "čudežev" očita pomanjkanje inteligence"

Pac-Man ::

Na videu spodaj je Dimitrij Rogozin, 4 leta je bil direktor Roskozmosa, pred tem 7 let namestnik premierja zadolžen za vojaško&vesoljsko industrijo in 3 leta ruski ambasador pri NATO. Precej resen del nomenklature.

Črno/rumeno/bela zastava je ruska imperialna, zdaj jo skoraj izključno uporabljajo tamkajšnji fašisti.

https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-signifi...

The black-gold-white tricolor was introduced as the “imperial flag” of Russia by Alexander II. It was used concurrently with the red-blue-white one, which had a more “civilian” use.

The “imperial tricolor” became the banner of radical nationalists during the 1990s. It symbolizes the hard right opposition to the “thieving”, “treacherous”, “globalist” elite of the state-oligarchical Russia. Monarchists and nativists are the most frequent users of it, but some other factions were also observed using it.

Below, a photo from a rally of radical nationalists under the black-gold-white imperial colors in Moscow a few years back. According to the rally participants, they were showing each other and the occasional onlookers where the sun was.



Akcija s kazanjem sonca se začne okrog 2:20.

Rogozin on a Nazi march: "I don't want to live on Kadyrov Street! Moscow is a Russian city!"


Če bi obstajal podoben posnetek ukrajinskega politika njegovega kova bi bilo to POVSOD. Tu pa črički.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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sir_mha ::

Evo sedaj pa še s komentarjem nedavni posnetek ukrajinskega napada, ko so povozili protitankovsko mino. Zelo dobra kvaliteta.

https://twitter.com/Yuri_Gagarin_UA/sta...

Pac-Man ::

pol minute dolg video s podnapisi, v Togliatiju ima sedež Lada

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...

"If we don't fix the situation within a month, there will be a second wave of mobilization" - the plan for war recruitment into the Russian army was revealed at one of the factories in Tolyatti, Russia.

Rabijo 2000 prostovoljcev, sicer bo mobilizacija.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

MadMen ::

Zanimivo dogajanje v (Ruski) millbloger sceni. Znani millblogar Two Majors objavlja stare posnetke iz bojišča in jih predstavlja kot nove(pred tem je bil relativno kredibilen vir informacij), od millblogerja Romanova ni glasu zadnje nekaj dni... to niso neznani ljudje, to so ljudje, katere spremlja kar nekaj miljonov rusov in proruskih privržencev. Očitno situacija ni tako idealna za RU.

dronyx ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Rabijo 2000 prostovoljcev, sicer bo mobilizacija.

Kaj v Moskvi pa ni kandidatov za na fronto? :))

Lesoto ::

MadMen je izjavil:

Zanimivo dogajanje v (Ruski) millbloger sceni. Znani millblogar Two Majors objavlja stare posnetke iz bojišča in jih predstavlja kot nove(pred tem je bil relativno kredibilen vir informacij), od millblogerja Romanova ni glasu zadnje nekaj dni... to niso neznani ljudje, to so ljudje, katere spremlja kar nekaj miljonov rusov in proruskih privržencev. Očitno situacija ni tako idealna za RU.


Romanov je obtožil rusko vojaško komando, da laže o situaciji v Hersonu.
Gerasimov si je pač izmislil, da je Urajincev ni več na levem bregu Dnjepra, tako da je imel mir pred Putinom, ko ga je ta obiskal v Rostov on Don nekaj dni nazaj.

Pa Romanov ni edini, ki to piše

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu...
Russians cleared the Ukrainian bridgehead on the left bank of the Dnieper, but only in the news. It's the area where the infamous Major Tomov and his unit were captured. Russian mercenary Guzenko says on Telegram that journalists lied about it ahead of Putin's alleged visit to Rostov-on-Don. Guzenko went on an angry rant about these unfortunate circumstances.

Lesoto ::

https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1693...
#Russian mechanized assault was destroyed by #Ukrainian forces at south of Bakhmut.

Lesoto ::

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...

Russian security services suggested Putin fire Shoigu, impose martial law and start general mobilization - Bloomberg.

The media writes that a number of Russian security service representatives are advocating a shift to more aggressive actions on the frontlines in Ukraine.

Prigozhin's main targets - defense minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of General Staff Valery Gerasimov - remain in their posts, but his attempt to overthrow them has gained some support in key state security agencies, according to two people familiar with the matter.

According to five people familiar with the situation, hardliners in the security sector want Shoigu replaced as part of a shift to more aggressive warfare, including full-scale mobilization and the imposition of martial law in Russia.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles...

Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/statu...

This is Sophia. She was murdered at the age of 6 by a russian missile strike in Chernihiv. Meanwhile, 64 thousand russians on Telegram laugh at her: "Chernihiv. Selling child sandals. Unworn". This is a great reminder that it's not just Putin and the "poor mobilized."

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Dobra nit:

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...

I keep getting asked what's going to happen with PMC Wagner. My answer usually is "no one knows, not even Prigozhin or Putin", but there are a few things that can be put on the record for the time being, based both on leaks by in-fighting clans, ex-mercs, & phone data (short 🧵)

First, a reminder of the context: at the start of the war, Wagner was not invited to the table. On the assumption of a quick victory for 🇷🇺, generals at MoD and GRU set up their own PMC, both to seize control away from Prigozhin, but also to dip into the (corrupt) funding flows.

The top general who in late 2021 was put in charge of creating the new PMC (variously called Reduta or Zvezda) was Gen. Vladimir Alexeev (yes, the same one who famously sat down to negotiate with Prigozhin on the day of the abortive coup attempt)
Alexeev had recruited Wagner's former "Intelligence chief" and used him as the recruiter for the new, competing PMC. This was Anatoly Karаziy, a former Spetznaz lt. colonel who was big in the Russia's bikers' circles.
Naturally, Prigozhin found out about the competing operation and (as reported by two former mercenaries) went to the GRU HQ to confront Alexeev, and threatened his ex-employee Karаziy with physical violence .

Karaziy and Alexeev won that battle, but lost the war (literally), as their PMC was decimated in the first days of the war and Prigozhin had to be begged to bring the original Wagner into the war as of end of March 2022.

Back to modern day.. After the final fall-out with Wagner this past June, MoD and GRU tried to recruit as many of Wagner's top commanders and mercenaries into Redut/Zvezda/MoD. However, not a whole lot responded.

The only commander that Alexeev/Karaziy were able to steal away from Wagner after the failed coup was a colonel with callsign Seriy (the grey-ing one). @bellingcat wrote about his role in Wagner, especially in Syria, in 2020:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-...

To the (mirror) left of Putin.
Troshev is now "the Utkin", or the mil. commander, of Redut. And he is now the target of a character assassination campaign by his former Wagner buddies, bringing back a 2017 incident when he was found passed out in the street with secret Syria maps)
https://www.fontanka.ru/2017/06/06/021/

However, rather than recruiting mercenaries for fighting in Ukraine, the GRU-controlled Redut is reported to be hiring now primarily for overseals/Africa postings. Wagner-aligned channels are accusing MoD of trying to divert resources to replace Prigozhin in lucrative markets.

So the main conflict between Prigozhin and the MoD appears to mostly on the future of "kuratorstvo" of African/middle-east client states (and resource markets), rather than "how to win the war in Ukraine".


Prigozhin (who offered full-service assistance to his "client states", including spin-doctors, psyops and electoral interference as needed) has created some strong local allegiances in Africa, and won't give them up without a fight.
One thing appears certain: insofar as MoD/GRU need to allocate resources - both focus and 000's of mercenaries - to win over Africa from Prigozhin, this is focus and resources unavailable to them on the ground in Ukraine.
(а correction to Troshev's call sign - Sedoy, not Seriy - the gray-ing one, not the "gray" one).
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

chittax ::

Zdaj pa res ne vem več a je tudi Nulandova ruska plačanka ali je samo zmešana in ne ve kaj govori?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005520/...

gozdar1 ::

Resnica o 15k mrtvih v donbasu (morda ideja za kajo, da napiše kak članek). Saj za večino, ki spremlja kaj več kot rusko propagando drugače nič novega.

https://twitter.com/PeterZerjavicEU/sta...

Bauc ::

chittax je izjavil:

Zdaj pa res ne vem več a je tudi Nulandova ruska plačanka ali je samo zmešana in ne ve kaj govori?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005520/...

Izdal ti bom šokantno skrivnost. Vse države imajo biolabe. Tudi mi. Neverjetno mar ne? Vem,da nekateri ne verjamete v viruse in bakterije ampak ti vseeno obstajajo.

bbbbbb2015 ::

Bauc je izjavil:

chittax je izjavil:

Zdaj pa res ne vem več a je tudi Nulandova ruska plačanka ali je samo zmešana in ne ve kaj govori?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005520/...

Izdal ti bom šokantno skrivnost. Vse države imajo biolabe. Tudi mi. Neverjetno mar ne? Vem,da nekateri ne verjamete v viruse in bakterije ampak ti vseeno obstajajo.


Eno je biolab, kjer delaš neko PCR diagnostiko za nek virus gripe. Nekaj povsem drugega pa je lovljenje natur virusov po jamah med netopirji, potem malo genskega inženiringa in nato probavanje na miših, ki imajo receptorje za človeške celice. In potem ti faking virus uide čez mišje odpadke in gre vse v maloro.

bbbbbb2015 ::

Ukrajinci so se prebili do Tokmaka, ter so na robu mesta:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023...

Verjetno tega ne bi objavili, samo je pritisk po uspehih velik in skepsa, kaj Ukrajinci zmorejo - začela naraščati. Drugače pa je informacijski mrk glede bojev okrog Tokmaka, kar je sicer edino prav. Drugače so čez mine prišli že kak teden dni nazaj, samo niso hoteli tega razglašati. Pojavils e je članek v Washington Post, ki je dvomil v zmožnosti Ukrajine, da sploh pride dlje od Robotnija. V realnosti so takrat Ukrajinci že bili precej dlje od tam.

Nekega odziva Rusov sploh ni, domneva se, da imajo rezerve vezane drugje. Kot kaže, imajo Rusi (zopet drugič) premalo ljudi.

Če Ukrajinci razrešijo Tokmak bom rekel ta mesec, potem bi lahko Melitopol (vseeno) bil na dosegu roke. Sotuacija je že sedaj bistveno drugačna. Ukrajinci so 40km v notranjosti in sicer črta še ni stabilizirana, samo od tukaj je s HIMARSi marsikaj dosegljivo.

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DarkSite ::

bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:

Ukrajinci so se prebili do Tokmaka, ter so na robu mesta:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023...

Verjetno tega ne bi objavili, samo je pritisk po uspehih velik in skepsa, kaj Ukrajinci zmorejo - začela naraščati. Drugače pa je informacijski mrk glede bojev okrog Tokmaka, kar je sicer edino prav. Drugače so čez mine prišli že kak teden dni nazaj, samo niso hoteli tega razglašati. Pojavils e je članek v Washington Post, ki je dvomil v zmožnosti Ukrajine, da sploh pride dlje od Robotnija. V realnosti so takrat Ukrajinci že bili precej dlje od tam.

Nekega odziva Rusov sploh ni, domneva se, da imajo rezerve vezane drugje. Kot kaže, imajo Rusi (zopet drugič) premalo ljudi.

Če Ukrajinci razrešijo Tokmak bom rekel ta mesec, potem bi lahko Melitopol (vseeno) bil na dosegu roke. Sotuacija je že sedaj bistveno drugačna. Ukrajinci so 40km v notranjosti in sicer črta še ni stabilizirana, samo od tukaj je s HIMARSi marsikaj dosegljivo.



Ah kje ... še Robotyne niso popolnoma zavzeli. Mogoče bo danes. Tokmak je pa še daleč in niso niti blizu.

Šele pri 1ki.
https://twitter.com/astraiaintel/status...

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fikus_ ::

bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:

Ukrajinci so se prebili do Tokmaka, ter so na robu mesta:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023...

Verjetno tega ne bi objavili, samo je pritisk po uspehih velik in skepsa, kaj Ukrajinci zmorejo - začela naraščati. Drugače pa je informacijski mrk glede bojev okrog Tokmaka, kar je sicer edino prav. Drugače so čez mine prišli že kak teden dni nazaj, samo niso hoteli tega razglašati. Pojavils e je članek v Washington Post, ki je dvomil v zmožnosti Ukrajine, da sploh pride dlje od Robotnija. V realnosti so takrat Ukrajinci že bili precej dlje od tam.

Nekega odziva Rusov sploh ni, domneva se, da imajo rezerve vezane drugje. Kot kaže, imajo Rusi (zopet drugič) premalo ljudi.

Če Ukrajinci razrešijo Tokmak bom rekel ta mesec, potem bi lahko Melitopol (vseeno) bil na dosegu roke. Sotuacija je že sedaj bistveno drugačna. Ukrajinci so 40km v notranjosti in sicer črta še ni stabilizirana, samo od tukaj je s HIMARSi marsikaj dosegljivo.



Nahecali so te!
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Leif ::

Bauc je izjavil:

chittax je izjavil:

Zdaj pa res ne vem več a je tudi Nulandova ruska plačanka ali je samo zmešana in ne ve kaj govori?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005520/...

Izdal ti bom šokantno skrivnost. Vse države imajo biolabe. Tudi mi. Neverjetno mar ne? Vem,da nekateri ne verjamete v viruse in bakterije ampak ti vseeno obstajajo.


https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/s...

Pa so v lasti ameriškega obrambnega mininistrstva? Predstavljaj si da bi imela ruska vojska neke biolabe v Mehiki.

gozdar1 ::

Če bi bilo kaj mesa okrog teh biolabov, bi ruska propganda to zagotovo izkoristila. Torej doslej očitno niso našli niti trohlice dokazov za svoje trditve.

Pac-Man ::

Priporočeno, zna bit OK

How Corruption Destroyed the Russian Army
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
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Bauc ::

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Zdaj pa res ne vem več a je tudi Nulandova ruska plačanka ali je samo zmešana in ne ve kaj govori?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005520/...

Izdal ti bom šokantno skrivnost. Vse države imajo biolabe. Tudi mi. Neverjetno mar ne? Vem,da nekateri ne verjamete v viruse in bakterije ampak ti vseeno obstajajo.


https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/s...

Pa so v lasti ameriškega obrambnega mininistrstva? Predstavljaj si da bi imela ruska vojska neke biolabe v Mehiki.

Kje v članku piše,da so v lasti ameriškega obrambnega ministrstva? Si sploh prebral?

chittax ::

Saj je Nulandova povedala.

Leif ::

Bauc je izjavil:

Leif je izjavil:

Bauc je izjavil:

chittax je izjavil:

Zdaj pa res ne vem več a je tudi Nulandova ruska plačanka ali je samo zmešana in ne ve kaj govori?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005520/...

Izdal ti bom šokantno skrivnost. Vse države imajo biolabe. Tudi mi. Neverjetno mar ne? Vem,da nekateri ne verjamete v viruse in bakterije ampak ti vseeno obstajajo.


https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/s...

Pa so v lasti ameriškega obrambnega mininistrstva? Predstavljaj si da bi imela ruska vojska neke biolabe v Mehiki.

Kje v članku piše,da so v lasti ameriškega obrambnega ministrstva? Si sploh prebral?


The U.S. Department of Defense’s Biological Threat Reduction Program ?

LightBit ::

https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/s...
"Risk Assessment of Selected Avian EDPs Potentially Carried by Migratory Birds over Ukraine" -> "U.S. Training Birds to Spread Bio Weapons" :))

Leif ::

Normalno, zapor na Kubi v Guantanamu imajo tam ker jim je všeč podnebje, ne zato da se izognejo regulacijam, ki veljajo v Ameriki :))

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Machete ::

Meni nobena svinjarija usa ne opraviči svinjarijo Rusije. Še vedno bi folk dal eno nogo, da bi dobil Zeleno karto za ZDA, v Rusiji pa je treba ljudi malodane prisilno zadržat v državi.
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Bauc ::

Leif je izjavil:

Normalno, zapor na Kubi v Guantanamu imajo tam ker jim je všeč podnebje, ne zato da se izognejo regulacijam, ki veljajo v Ameriki :))

Seveda laboratorije za razvoj biološkega orožja imajo pa na ruski meji v Ukrajini. Popolnoma logično,ker jih drugače rusi ne bi mogli uničiti ali zajeti.

Leif ::

Verjetno Pentagon tako zelo skrbi za zdravje Ukrajincev :))

chittax ::

Leif je izjavil:

Verjetno Pentagon tako zelo skrbi za zdravje Ukrajincev :))

Zato pa je Nulandova rekla, da se boji rusov da se dokopljejo do materialov iz teh laboratorijev, ker bi potem še Rusi bili preveč zdravi, tega pa pentagon res ne more dovoliti.

fur80 ::

In evo z letali je zmenjeno. Ravno pred ruskimi volitvami bo končano šolanje. :D Švedi še dajo Gripne, pa bo lažja ofenziva.

F-16s will instill fresh confidence and motivation in both warriors and ordinary citizens. They will produce fresh results for Ukraine and the rest of Europe.

I thank you once again, dear @MinPres
Mark, @Statsmin
Mette, your teams, and the peoples of the Netherlands and Denmark.


https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/...



chittax je izjavil:

Leif je izjavil:

Verjetno Pentagon tako zelo skrbi za zdravje Ukrajincev :))

Zato pa je Nulandova rekla, da se boji rusov da se dokopljejo do materialov iz teh laboratorijev, ker bi potem še Rusi bili preveč zdravi, tega pa pentagon res ne more dovoliti.


Misliš, da so USA tako nori, da bi po Maidanu tja navalili z sumljivimi Biolabi v tako nestabilno državo.

Ali je to bilo prej, ko so še predsedniki skupaj pili?

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Bauc ::

Leif je izjavil:

Verjetno Pentagon tako zelo skrbi za zdravje Ukrajincev :))

Saj pravim. Po ruski invaziji leta 2014 so se američani odločili,da postavijo laboratorije za biološko orožje v Ukrajino,ker so ocenili,da bodo tam na varnem. Če bi jih imeli kje drugje jih rusi ne bi mogli doseči. Saj ne,da jim oponašate,da imajo baze po celem svetu in je večina zaščitena kot kočevski medved. Nekako so se vseeno odločili,da jih postavijo v edini državi za katero so vedeli,da bi slej kot prej tarča ponovnega ruskega napada in morebitne okupacije. Verjetno jih imajo rusi v Lugansku ali Donbasu:))
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