Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

RedDrake je 27. okt 2022 ob 16:20 izjavil:

cvalsr je 27. okt 2022 ob 16:14 izjavil:

Da ne omenjamo, da je "zanimivo", kako vsa napredna vojaška tehnologija ne more zaznati "rusov", ki pred EU obalo sabotirajo našo infrastrukturo.

Idiotizem.
Tehnoolgija sonarjev je danes "enaka" kot 70 let nazaj.

Ah daj no. Dandanes ti s fft analizo signalov
najdejo đirico, če hočejo.
Razen, če ustvariš močan hrup?
Pol pa lahk marsikaj neopaženo mimo pride.

Poldi112 je 27. okt 2022 ob 18:36 izjavil:

Za NSA si že slišal?

Se nikoli me niso ustavili in mi rekli, da jim moram pokazati telefon. A tebe ustavljajo po cesti?
Mimogrede, naj te razsvetlim: NSA ni vsemogocna.

Sedaj pa res ne vem ali se zajebavajo ali RTV resno misli? Od kdaj si Putler zasluži glavno novico in glavno besedo na RTV?!
Kaj so res tam nori malo?

Putin je tudi rekel, da ne bo napadel Ukrajine in da zahod nori! ;)
Putin: Pred nami je verjetno najbolj nevarno desetletje po drugi svetovni vojni
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/evropa/putin...

Tale je boljša & resnična, ko govorimo o Putinu in pametnih telefonih.

Oliverju Stonu je Američane v Afganistanu prodajal kot Ruse v Siriji.

fur80 je 27. okt 2022 ob 19:07 izjavil:

Sedaj pa res ne vem ali se zajebavajo ali RTV resno misli? Od kdaj si Putler zasluži glavno novico in glavno besedo na RTV?!
Kaj so res tam nori malo?

Putin je tudi rekel, da ne bo napadel Ukrajine in da zahod nori! ;)
Putin: Pred nami je verjetno najbolj nevarno desetletje po drugi svetovni vojni
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/evropa/putin...

Čakaj malo. En na tem forumu trdi,da je namen novic v Evropi blatiti zunanje sovražnike ter preusmerjanje pozornosti. A RTV ne dobiva navodil ali e-maili pristanejo v njihovem spamu? Tu nekaj ne štima.

Kdo sploh je ta B.V.? Deluje kot, vedno dobi erekcijo na Putina.

Shizofrenija je močna pri tem tipu, pa še pri komu v njegovem krogu. Enostavno so nori. Ni druge razlage.

Tale je dobra.

Deluje, kot da vržejo ven buzzword tedna, tokrat je to satanizem, nato pa vsi propagandisti adlibajo na to.



Vmes se pizdi, da bi bilo treba odgovorne za prazna skladišča kaznovat. Tip ima 2 vili v Italiji.

Apartments, cottage and Italian villa of Vladimir Solovyov


You will laugh: he has another villa in Italy and Maybach


Upsi, vsaj tri, in ne več

https://www.newsweek.com/pro-putin-jour...

Vladimir Solovyov, a presenter on Russian state television who is an ardent supporter of President Vladimir Putin, railed against Italy on air after having three of his villas in the Mediterranean country seized over the Ukraine war.

In early March, Solovyov was among the Russian oligarchs whose villas—three properties on Lake Como in northern Italy—were confiscated by Italian police. One of the villas was set on fire on April 6, while a second villa he owns near the lake had its walls daubed with spray paint and red paint was also poured into the water in its swimming pool.

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Na MMC je bila svoje čase zelo aktivna proruska uporabnica J@st, z začetkom vojne jo je vzela megla. No, trdila je, da je iz Mariupola, kjer ima še vedno sorodstvo in da imajo azovci na tamkajšnjem letališču mučilnice ter množična grobišča.

Mariupol je še več mesecev v ruskih rokah pa jim še vedno ni uspelo najt nič od tega, so pa z zasedbo uspeli ustvarit vsaj množična grobišča, video:

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/158...

What is left of the people of Mariupol after russia destroyed the city.
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P.S.

Očitno je iz takega ali drugačnega razloga izbrisana. V tem tedenskem izboru najboljših objav jo označuje samo alfanumerični niz.

https://www.rtvslo.si/mmcdebata/nekoc-z...

Rusko smetje bodo s traktorji ponovno vlekli iz blatnih njiv, tako kot spomladi

fur80 je 27. okt 2022 ob 19:35 izjavil:

nejcek74 je 27. okt 2022 ob 19:28 izjavil:

fur80 je 27. okt 2022 ob 19:21 izjavil:

Ukrajinsko protiofenzivo pa je označil za del "tektonskih premikov celotnega svetovnega reda", poroča francoska tiskovna agencija AFP.

ja to sem tud jaz prebral, pa mi ni jasno kaj je B.V. hotel povedat z vsem skupaj. verjetno je tipkal v prevelikem zanosu.
Btw. a kdo ve zakaj so na RTV včasih novinarji omenjeni s kratico, drugič pa z imenom in priimkom?

RUSKI PREDSEDNIK JE TUDI POZVAL K SVOBODI ZA DRUGE KULTURE IN POLITIČNE POGLEDE!!!

Dajmo to še enkrat prebrat? Mogoče pa mi ne razumemo nekaj ne vem, Poldi mogoče? Meni ni jasno, lahko kdo to razloži?

Pozval je tudi na pogajanja oz pogovore o prenehanju spopadov in to že mesece nazaj. Z razliko od igralca, ki je to prepovedal oz celo grozil z likvidacijo vsem, ki bi to poskušali. Sicer pa se igralcu, ki se ima za domoljuba in ima v tujini parkirane miljone to tudi izplača. Je pa danes Putin lepo povedal, kako zadeve stojijo vsaj z njegovega zornega kota. Biden pa tako ali tako "funcionira" samo še zaradi koktejlov, ki ga držijo pokonci. Taki so pri nas že vsaj 5 let v dso-ju. Tudi držim pesti, da se bully, ki ustrahuje "šolo" zadnjih 50 let sklofta in pošlje klečat na koruzo.

mailer je 27. okt 2022 ob 22:30 izjavil:

fur80 je 27. okt 2022 ob 19:35 izjavil:

nejcek74 je 27. okt 2022 ob 19:28 izjavil:

fur80 je 27. okt 2022 ob 19:21 izjavil:

Ukrajinsko protiofenzivo pa je označil za del "tektonskih premikov celotnega svetovnega reda", poroča francoska tiskovna agencija AFP.

ja to sem tud jaz prebral, pa mi ni jasno kaj je B.V. hotel povedat z vsem skupaj. verjetno je tipkal v prevelikem zanosu.
Btw. a kdo ve zakaj so na RTV včasih novinarji omenjeni s kratico, drugič pa z imenom in priimkom?

RUSKI PREDSEDNIK JE TUDI POZVAL K SVOBODI ZA DRUGE KULTURE IN POLITIČNE POGLEDE!!!

Dajmo to še enkrat prebrat? Mogoče pa mi ne razumemo nekaj ne vem, Poldi mogoče? Meni ni jasno, lahko kdo to razloži?

Pozval je tudi na pogajanja oz pogovore o prenehanju spopadov in to že mesece nazaj. Z razliko od igralca, ki je to prepovedal oz celo grozil z likvidacijo vsem, ki bi to poskušali. Sicer pa se igralcu, ki se ima za domoljuba in ima v tujini parkirane miljone to tudi izplača. Je pa danes Putin lepo povedal, kako zadeve stojijo vsaj z njegovega zornega kota. Biden pa tako ali tako "funcionira" samo še zaradi koktejlov, ki ga držijo pokonci. Taki so pri nas že vsaj 5 let v dso-ju. Tudi držim pesti, da se bully, ki ustrahuje "šolo" zadnjih 50 let sklofta in pošlje klečat na koruzo.

Kako bi se počutil,če bi ti na silo vzel pol hiše potem te pa povabil na zemljiško,da naredima prepis? Verjetno bi bil navdušen.

mailer je 27. okt 2022 ob 22:30 izjavil:

Pozval je tudi na pogajanja oz pogovore o prenehanju spopadov in to že mesece nazaj.

Se spomniš, ko je Rusija pred vojno zahtevala, da se NATO vrne na meje iz l. 1997? Dobili so pa Finsko in Švedsko v NATO, bwahahahaha.


Kasparov o današnjem govoru:

https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1...

Putin’s speech so far sounds like a racist, homophobic cranky old uncle babbling about values while everyone rolls their eyes. But do not forget this man is a war criminal who is directing an onslaught of terror in Ukraine right now.

Putin openly appeals to the far-right forces in the free world, an attempt to create an alliance of those who grasp for power at all costs while pretending it’s for religious, family, or conservative values. Fascism is not conservative.

Hard to say which is more pathetic and vile, Putin talking about cancel culture from the police state he created or saying the West declined to “cooperate” with Russia, an invader. Putinspeak is worse than Orwell’s newspeak.

Appeasers will grab at Putin’s mention of dialogue and ignore that he did not mention the thousands of innocent Ukrainians his attacks have killed for nothing, the tens of thousands of Russians he sent to die for nothing. He could end his war today and does not.

Putin again said Ukraine isn’t a real state and can only be sovereign as part of Russia. Endless contradictions. We are one people so we must slaughter them is insanity. It is a platform for extermination and conquest, in word as in deed after terrorist deed.

P.S.

Dobra:

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/statu...

35 weeks of my 3 day war. I've restored Soviet Union. Economy is ruined, everyone is trying to get out of the country & we're losing a catastrophic war we blame on USA.

I remain a master strategist

Pac-Man je 27. okt 2022 ob 22:56 izjavil:

mailer je 27. okt 2022 ob 22:30 izjavil:

Pozval je tudi na pogajanja oz pogovore o prenehanju spopadov in to že mesece nazaj.

Se spomniš, ko je Rusija pred vojno zahtevala, da se NATO vrne na meje iz l. 1997? Dobili so pa Finsko in Švedsko v NATO, bwahahahaha.


Kasparov o današnjem govoru:

https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1...

Putin’s speech so far sounds like a racist, homophobic cranky old uncle babbling about values while everyone rolls their eyes. But do not forget this man is a war criminal who is directing an onslaught of terror in Ukraine right now.

Putin openly appeals to the far-right forces in the free world, an attempt to create an alliance of those who grasp for power at all costs while pretending it’s for religious, family, or conservative values. Fascism is not conservative.

Hard to say which is more pathetic and vile, Putin talking about cancel culture from the police state he created or saying the West declined to “cooperate” with Russia, an invader. Putinspeak is worse than Orwell’s newspeak.

Appeasers will grab at Putin’s mention of dialogue and ignore that he did not mention the thousands of innocent Ukrainians his attacks have killed for nothing, the tens of thousands of Russians he sent to die for nothing. He could end his war today and does not.

Putin again said Ukraine isn’t a real state and can only be sovereign as part of Russia. Endless contradictions. We are one people so we must slaughter them is insanity. It is a platform for extermination and conquest, in word as in deed after terrorist deed.

P.S.

Dobra:

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/statu...

35 weeks of my 3 day war. I've restored Soviet Union. Economy is ruined, everyone is trying to get out of the country & we're losing a catastrophic war we blame on USA.

I remain a master strategist

Z svojo izjavo o boju proti satanistom je med ostalimi nagovoril in popihal na dušo tudi zahodni protižidovski neonaci sceni. Če je bilo slučajno ali namerno je pa vprašanje.

https://twitter.com/Knoks/status/158574...

1/13 Here's a Russian propaganda story for
@christogrozev
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@bellingcat
right out of the movies. We're in Venice, unintentionally eavesdropping on a conversation between 2 Russian guys (a bartender and his friend) and one of the regulars... So ?
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2/13 It's a great new bar in Venice, always packed with locals, mostly a student crowd. Why the hype? It's cheap. Dirt cheap! Drinks half the price of anywhere else around so students and locals like the place.
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3/13 Our friendly bartender Sergei tells us he's lived in Italy for more than 20 years. He's a friendly guy, always happy to pour a little extra. But along comes a regular - let's call him Valerij (as we don't know his real name)
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4/13 Every night we're there, Sergei and Valerij, among the crowd but engaged in discussion - how Italy is tired of sanctions, how the United States started the war in Ukraine, the richness of Russian culture and, of course, the existential danger of Nazis in Ukraine.
Gints Knoks
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5/13 Locals, especially the students, listen to them with great interest (sorry to my Italian friends, but we know how the youth both here and there lean). But so what? Discussion isn't inherently bad, right?
Gints Knoks
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6/13 But this is where it gets interesting... On the 3rd night, we ran into our friends again. What they didn't know is that we understand Russian. So as Sergei and Valery sat next to us and quietly discussed their job - to persuade locals with Russian propaganda - we listened.
Gints Knoks
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7/13 They discussed the latest in Ukraine, key talking points, and what to tell to whom depending their views. They even called Putin - nachalnik (boss) - just like
@M_Simonyan
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Gints Knoks
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8/13 So what do we do? Confront them. Twice. At first, we didn't mention what we heard, just interested that we heard them speak Russian. They were both a little confused, but, as we spoke, they quickly remembered their task.
Gints Knoks
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9/13 They immediately hit all the talking points - how great it was to be together in the USSR, the beauty of Russian culture, the coming energy crisis this winter, how the United States are warmongers, and, finally, Crimea, Donbass, and South of Ukraine is part of Russia.
Gints Knoks
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10/13 So finally confronted them as Russian propagandists, told them that we know they are on a "mission", and that they are uncovered now. Sergei was really nervous and stopped the conversation, while Valery, confused as to why we think so but left the bar in minutes.
Gints Knoks
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11/13 So... I know this sounds like a paranoid conspiracy, but just what if Russia intelligence opens small bars in say Italy, Spain, and Greece? Cheap drinks and a great atmosphere drawing crowds, and well-trained staff and "customers" to push Russian propaganda.
Gints Knoks
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12/13 Recruited Russians who work Europe and speak the local language fluently or perhaps even locals? Pay them good salaries and help them keep prices low? Put one man in charge of instruction and control for a few bars? Nice job, sip your cocktail and talk about US/UA Nazis.
Gints Knoks
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13/13 So, again, perhaps its only a story. But for me (after hearing how Sergei and Valery talked about "their job"), it sounds more than believable. BTW, this is the bar, and this is Sergey and Valery. Sorry guys, I know it was not your main goal to become famous on Twitter.

Saj včeraj je jokal, da je želel bit samo prijatelj z EU in Ameriko. Ampak grdobini, so ga prislili, da napade svoboden narod.

Ja. Pa fino plačuje ljudi, ki bi ga lahko skinili. Da ga ne skinejo. Splača se jim ogromno, ga ne skinit.

Mislim da se s svojimi norimi izjavami počasi približuje meji popolne nore neprištevnosti.

mackilla: kaj so potem sploh opcije, kako rešiti problem po imenu Rusija?

A se se komu prikazuje Srbija in slobo, ko gleda ruse in putkota? 2000 so jih sicer dobro zbombardirali, niso pa jih denacificirali, in to tepe Srbe še danes. Še vedeno so nekje na pol obtičal v svojih mitih in blodnjah v svoj veličini. Zel podobno kot ruskoti. Mal me skrbi, da ko bodo Ukrajinci pridobili svoje ozemlje nazaj, bomo šli nazaj v status quo z Rusi, prave denazifikacije Rusov pa se ne bo nihče šel. Le problem bomo predstavili za naprej in ponovili napako iz Srbije.

avani je 28. okt 2022 ob 16:37 izjavil:

A se se komu prikazuje Srbija in slobo, ko gleda ruse in putkota? 2000 so jih sicer dobro zbombardirali, niso pa jih denacificirali, in to tepe Srbe še danes. Še vedeno so nekje na pol obtičal v svojih mitih in blodnjah v svoj veličini. Zel podobno kot ruskoti. Mal me skrbi, da ko bodo Ukrajinci pridobili svoje ozemlje nazaj, bomo šli nazaj v status quo z Rusi, prave denazifikacije Rusov pa se ne bo nihče šel. Le problem bomo predstavili za naprej in ponovili napako iz Srbije.

Zato so zavezniki zahtevali od Nemčije in Japonske brezpogojno kapitulacijo. Po prvi svetovni vojni se je v Nemčiji takoj začela narativna,da je Nemčija izgubila vojno,ker je določen del domačega ljudstva zabil nož v hrbet nemški vojski. Pri Rusih bo seveda kriv NATO in zahod. Pri Rusih te opcija ni mogoča. Zadnjič sem bral,da si Ukrajinski generali ne delajo nobenih utvar in da bo konec te vojne samo pavza za pripravo na naslednjo agresijo.

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82 jurčkov so jih poslali že na fronto 218 jurčkov se še uči kater del puške mora kje držat...
Medtem jih že skoraj 70 jurčkov gnoji zemljo...

Bojda , da jim vbrusiji zaenkrat še nič ne manjka. Kar pa ne drži ravno za ukrajinsko koalicijo.

Tale je dobra in zadane precej tem iz današnjih objav. Vlad Vexler, 16 minut


The Riddle of Why Russians Don't Protest

As Putin continues his brutal invasion of Ukraine, we look a the riddle of why Russians don't protest. We'll discover that what's at play is no ordinary apathy, but historical amnesia, an extraordinary evacuation of the public sphere, fear caused by terror.

00:00 Radical apathy in a decaying empire
03:14 Stalin and amnesia
05:09 Postmodernist denial about the past
08:43 Putin's deal with Russians
10:48 Russians who reject Putin's deal
12:05 Technocrats and the political elite
14:12 Putin's fragile tyranny
15:12 Fear

Če dam še moja timestampa

@3:15 Levada redno dela ankete o največjih osebah vseh časov na svetu. Edini tujec je Einstein, ostalo pa večinoma ruski tiranski voditelji. In Juri "privezan na goreč cigaret" Gagarin, Sergej "razvil goreč cigaret" Koroljev manjka.

@7:40 kritizira Navalnega in rusko opozicijo, češ da ne podajo nobene alternative

fur80 je 28. okt 2022 ob 19:08 izjavil:

Heh, ni gretja, če pa že je, pa šotori nimajo dimnikov in postanejo efektivne plinske komore za par 10 ljudi.

Pol mobikov bodo pobili, preden sploh vidijo Ukrajino.