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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

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Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/BlackerUilleam/stat...

Watching writers you’ve translated pull bullets out of their bulletproof jackets after battle… Oleh Sentsov was injured once again in the frontline; he is okay and continues to take territory back from the occupiers.

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Rusi so tako razpotegnjeni, da je Ukrajini s par specialci v gumenjakih uspelo zavzet vrtalne ploščadi, ki so bile pod ruskim nadzorom od l. 2015. V 1. objavi je 13-minutni video

https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/...

Ukraine's military intelligence (GUR) claims to have recaptured the "Boiko Towers" drilling rigs in the Black Sea, after clashing with Russian.

GUR says “Russia occupied them [Boiko Towers] in 2015, and with the beginning of the full-scale invasion, used them for military purposes. In particular, as helipads and for placing radar equipment,”

During one of the phases of this operation, a battle took place between Ukrainian special forces on boats and a Russian Su-30 fighter. The GUR claims that as result of the battle, the Russian plane was damaged and had to retreat. [likely using MANPADS]

Two drilling platforms were returned to #Ukrainian control as a result of the operation.

Some snip from the video posted by Ukraine's military intelligence - quite astonishing operation, in a sea that's supposed to be controlled by the Russian navy (but clearly isn't)

According to the statement, Ukrainian forces captured a stock of unguided rockets for helicopters, as well ase a Radar meant to monitor movements in the Black Sea

Russia had installed a NEVA radar on the platform (the radar Ukrainian forces captured)

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

fur80 ::

Zgleda, da imajo Ukrajinci v rokavu presenečenje?



Zanimiv komentar:
I'll laugh if the Ukrainian Armed Forces enter Donetsk earlier than Melitlpol-Berdyansk.

P.S. Se opravičujem Rambutanu, ker sem ga nagovoril, mi je javil, da so ga blokirali in ne more več sodelovat v temi. ;)

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Bauc ::

fur80 je izjavil:

Zgleda, da imajo Ukrajinci v rokavu presenečenje?



Zanimiv komentar:
I'll laugh if the Ukrainian Armed Forces enter Donetsk earlier than Melitlpol-Berdyansk.

P.S. Se opravičujem Rambutanu, ker sem ga nagovoril, mi je javil, da so ga blokirali in ne more več sodelovat v temi. ;)

Kekec je še včeraj sodeloval. Bo pač ustvaril še en nov račun ampak odgovora ne boš dobil):)

AtaŠtumf ::

Še 1000x se lahko napiše, da se s Putinom ne bo pogajalo, ker se baje nič ne drži.

A dejstvo je, če hočemo priti do mira, se bo moralo s Putinom pogajati.

Če bo Putin, Zelensky ali Biden se pripravljen sploh pogajati je pa drugo vprašanje.


Aja saj res, dajmo raje glavo v pesek in se derimo, da se s hitlerjem ne pogaja in se borimo do zadnjega Ukrajinca!

ps: Ko Ukrajincev zmanjka, a se borimo do zadnjega Poljaka, Slovaka, Nemca, ali zadnjega Slovenca?
#SlovenijaPrva #SLOVEenianLivesMatter #SlavaGasilcem

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Gregor P ::

Tako je, ruskega diktatorja je treba premagati za vsako ceno. Žal to za njega pomeni le, da se bo preostanek še žive vojske vrnil potem nazaj v Rusijo; ker pač Rusije noben ne napada ... razen če jo bodo Kitajci morda >:D
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gozdar1 ::

Težko se boš pogajal, glede na ruske zahteve. Torej teritorij, razorožitev, umik nata na meje iz l.97. Rusi ne bodo dali miru , dokler jih bodisi ne dobijo po buči ali pa dosežejo preureditev v. evrope. Naiven je kdor misli , da je v igri samo ukrajina, na putinovo smolo se jim je tam ustavilo.

Ganon ::

AtaŠtumf je izjavil:

ps: Ko Ukrajincev zmanjka, a se borimo do zadnjega Poljaka, Slovaka, Nemca, ali zadnjega Slovenca?


Mogočna ruska vojska bo pobila celotno Evropo. :))

gozdar1 ::

Če bi rusom uspelo, bi bili naslednji na vrsti verjetno moldavci, potem pa smo že pri baltih, poljakih,..dokler je putin "denaificiral" samo po vzhodu ukrajine se večina evrope ni pretirano obremenjevala, ko je poslal tanke na zahod se je po evropi prižgali alarm.

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Lonsarg ::

AtaŠtumf je izjavil:

A dejstvo je, če hočemo priti do mira, se bo moralo s Putinom pogajati.

Če bo Putin, Zelensky ali Biden se pripravljen sploh pogajati je pa drugo vprašanje.
Pogajanje bodo možna šele ko bo obema stranema zmanjkalo ofenzivnih sposobnosti premikanja mej.

Pa še to zgolj začasna za zamrznjen konflikt kot Transnistria. Nekega stalnega miru ne bo podpisanega z Rusi še vsaj 50 let. In tudi večje povezanosti EU in Rusije ne bo še vsaj 50 let. S tem se boste morali sprijazniti, ta ladja je odplula.

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Lesoto ::

AtaŠtumf je izjavil:

Še 1000x se lahko napiše, da se s Putinom ne bo pogajalo, ker se baje nič ne drži.
A dejstvo je, če hočemo priti do mira, se bo moralo s Putinom pogajati.
Če bo Putin, Zelensky ali Biden se pripravljen sploh pogajati je pa drugo vprašanje.
Aja saj res, dajmo raje glavo v pesek in se derimo, da se s hitlerjem ne pogaja in se borimo do zadnjega Ukrajinca!
ps: Ko Ukrajincev zmanjka, a se borimo do zadnjega Poljaka, Slovaka, Nemca, ali zadnjega Slovenca?


Lažnivi indoktriniranec se je zopet oglasil.

O kakšnih pogajanjih je govora? Putin hoče, da se Zaporožje, kjer živi 15% ruskega življa prenese v Rusijo. TO JE ZAHTEVA. O čem se bomo pogajali, a?

Sicer pa, a se ti zdi, da je ruska vojska vsega tega sposobna? Ker trenutno se zdi, da se Kitajci in Severnokorejci borijo do zadnjega Rusa.

AtaŠtumf ::

Lesoto je izjavil:

AtaŠtumf je izjavil:

Še 1000x se lahko napiše, da se s Putinom ne bo pogajalo, ker se baje nič ne drži.
A dejstvo je, če hočemo priti do mira, se bo moralo s Putinom pogajati.
Če bo Putin, Zelensky ali Biden se pripravljen sploh pogajati je pa drugo vprašanje.
Aja saj res, dajmo raje glavo v pesek in se derimo, da se s hitlerjem ne pogaja in se borimo do zadnjega Ukrajinca!
ps: Ko Ukrajincev zmanjka, a se borimo do zadnjega Poljaka, Slovaka, Nemca, ali zadnjega Slovenca?


Lažnivi indoktriniranec se je zopet oglasil.

O kakšnih pogajanjih je govora? Putin hoče, da se Zaporožje, kjer živi 15% ruskega življa prenese v Rusijo. TO JE ZAHTEVA. O čem se bomo pogajali, a?

Sicer pa, a se ti zdi, da je ruska vojska vsega tega sposobna? Ker trenutno se zdi, da se Kitajci in Severnokorejci borijo do zadnjega Rusa.



Ne, ne bomo se pogajali, borili se bomo do zadnjega Ukrajinca, potem pa še do zadnjega Slovenca, samo, da ne bo pogajanj!
#SlovenijaPrva #SLOVEenianLivesMatter #SlavaGasilcem

gozdar1 ::

Glavna ovira za pogajanja so vseskozi rusi s svojimi zahtevami, ki jih ne bi sprejela nobena država. Razen vsituaciji, ko ne bi imela druge izbire(minsk je bil recimo katastrofa za ukrajino , pa se ga rusija vseeno ni držala). Ukrajina je že več kot enkrat podpisala sporazume in bila na koncu izigrana. Brez trdnih varnistnih zagotovil, bodo rusi samo izkoristili predah in potem poskusili ponovno.
Sicer pa putinova vojna je najbolj zdesetkala ravno okupirane pro ruske dele ukrajine, saj jih je putin najprvo uporabil kot topovsko hrano. Počasi se bo podobno zgodilo tudi z raznoraznimi rusimi manjšinami.

Aston_11 ::

Pot Putlerja nima veze z Ukrajinci, Natom in Slovenci. Rusi se niso spraševali, kako zatreti sosednje narode zadnjih par sto let, pa se tudi sedaj ne bodo začeli.

Sheteentz ::

Hehehe, ojoj, AtaŠtrumf bi po vsej sili hotel prepričati Američane, naj junija 1944 forsirajo pogajanja s Hitlerjem. Res ne vem, kdo te je učil vojaško doktrino, ampak pogajanja forsiraš takrat, ko si vojaško na psu, ko dejansko več nimaš sredstev za napad. Ukrajincem pa gre iz meseca v mesec na bojišču bolje. Res ne vem, kaj bi bilo v interesu zahoda, da Ukrajino prisilijo v pogajanja? Če ukrajinci želijo umirati za domovino, je to njihov problem, in ne naš. Nihče jih ne sili, da to počnejo.

A te dejansko srček boli, ker zmorejo taka junaška dejanja, ki si jih ti še v sanjah ne upaš zamisliti? Vsi vemo, kdo so tisti, ki si v vojni želijo pogajanj in konec vojne, bodisi agresorji ki bi radi konsolidirali vojni dobiček, bodisi kvizlingi, ki pa so itak agresorski plačanci. Dejansko so pa še tretji, in tile so pravi psihoti, kot si tudi sam pogruntal. Tile tretji sanjajo o neki geopolitični pravičnosti, ki bo prinesla uravnoteženost svetovnih moči, pa četudi je treba pustiti, da neka ruska psevdodržava posiljuje sosednjo državo.

Pa ta tvoj strah, da bodo naši vojaki umirali v Ukrajini je tudi vreden obiska ustanove zaprtega tipa. A resno, ti dejansko misliš, da bo potrebna intervencija NATO vojakov v Ukrajini, ker bodo Rusi pobili čisto vse ukrajinske vojake?

luli ::

Rusi se brez problema lahko pogajajo.
- Glede vstopa v EU z avtomobilom.
- Glede kapice na nafto
- Glede embarga s strani drugih držav
- glede zasega s strani EU in ZDA
...
Če bi se pa nujno radi pogajali glede ozemlja pa lahko dajo na mizo Belgorod.
Putin se lahko pogaja tudi glede tiralice.
Skratka stvari je dovolj.

Pac-Man ::

Rusija gre lepo po poti Venezuele, zdaj v več regijah manjka dizla

video+podnapisi

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...

Residents of temporarily occupied Crimea complain that diesel has disappeared from the peninsula. When they manage to find it, the prices are much higher than they used to be.

Many regions in Russia also experience gas shortages.


https://twitter.com/BilboBagginsBut/sta...



https://twitter.com/FluteMagician/statu...

Russia has been diverting diesel fuel to the war. Their tanks, APCs, and trucks. Add to that export of oil to get cash for the war, so less oil to refine into diesel. Their crops may indeed rot in the fields and they could see a possible famine.

Russia has serious fuel shortages affecting food production. Agriculture minister pushes for priorization of field work or it's a disaster.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/919452

For example, Rostov region had only 38% of required diesel for agriculture on September 4th.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/919212
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Malidelničar ::

fur80 je izjavil:

Zgleda, da imajo Ukrajinci v rokavu presenečenje?



Zanimiv komentar:
I'll laugh if the Ukrainian Armed Forces enter Donetsk earlier than Melitlpol-Berdyansk.

P.S. Se opravičujem Rambutanu, ker sem ga nagovoril, mi je javil, da so ga blokirali in ne more več sodelovat v temi. ;)


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Lesoto ::

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...

The discount on Russian gas for China will be increased to almost 50%
The Russian government has planned a further reduction in the price of Russian gas for China, Reuters reported, citing internal Cabinet documents prepared as part of the 2024 budget formation.
...

Še manj denarja za ruski proračun.

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Utk ::

Sankcije delujejo tako slabo, da Rusi izvozijo tolk nafte, da je še zase nimajo. Bojo rekli rusofili.
Ostali normalni smo rekli, da bo prej Ruse zeblo kot Evropo. Ker greje se predvsem na denar, ne samo na plin.

Bauc ::

AtaŠtumf je izjavil:

Še 1000x se lahko napiše, da se s Putinom ne bo pogajalo, ker se baje nič ne drži.

A dejstvo je, če hočemo priti do mira, se bo moralo s Putinom pogajati.

Če bo Putin, Zelensky ali Biden se pripravljen sploh pogajati je pa drugo vprašanje.


Aja saj res, dajmo raje glavo v pesek in se derimo, da se s hitlerjem ne pogaja in se borimo do zadnjega Ukrajinca!

ps: Ko Ukrajincev zmanjka, a se borimo do zadnjega Poljaka, Slovaka, Nemca, ali zadnjega Slovenca?

Saj si sam povedal, da se Putin ne drži dogovorov. Se pravi, da si ugotovil, da pogajanja niso smislena. Pogajalo se bo lahko z njegovim naslednikom,če bo seveda normalen. Glede odškodnine in podobno.

AvtoR ::

AtaŠtumf je izjavil:

Še 1000x se lahko napiše, da se s Putinom ne bo pogajalo, ker se baje nič ne drži.

A dejstvo je, če hočemo priti do mira, se bo moralo s Putinom pogajati.

Če bo Putin, Zelensky ali Biden se pripravljen sploh pogajati je pa drugo vprašanje.



Aja saj res, dajmo raje glavo v pesek in se derimo, da se s hitlerjem ne pogaja in se borimo do zadnjega Ukrajinca!

ps: Ko Ukrajincev zmanjka, a se borimo do zadnjega Poljaka, Slovaka, Nemca, ali zadnjega Slovenca?



Ruse je treba najprej spraviti iz Ukrajine domov v svojo vukojebino. Potem bodo potekala pogajanja o vojni odškodnini, ki jo bodo plačali Ukrajini.

mojsterleo ::

fur80 je izjavil:

Zgleda, da imajo Ukrajinci v rokavu presenečenje?



Zanimiv komentar:
I'll laugh if the Ukrainian Armed Forces enter Donetsk earlier than Melitlpol-Berdyansk.

P.S. Se opravičujem Rambutanu, ker sem ga nagovoril, mi je javil, da so ga blokirali in ne more več sodelovat v temi. ;)

Ne vidim poante, da bi šli Ukrajinci zavzemat Donetsk. Milijonsko mesto, v katerem je populacija izrazito Ruska in nenaklonjena. Poleg tega bi bilo oskrbovanje mesta precej zahtevna naloga. Bolje da to zaenkrat pustijo Rusom.

Sc0ut ::

AtaŠtumf je izjavil:

Lesoto je izjavil:

AtaŠtumf je izjavil:

Še 1000x se lahko napiše, da se s Putinom ne bo pogajalo, ker se baje nič ne drži.
A dejstvo je, če hočemo priti do mira, se bo moralo s Putinom pogajati.
Če bo Putin, Zelensky ali Biden se pripravljen sploh pogajati je pa drugo vprašanje.
Aja saj res, dajmo raje glavo v pesek in se derimo, da se s hitlerjem ne pogaja in se borimo do zadnjega Ukrajinca!
ps: Ko Ukrajincev zmanjka, a se borimo do zadnjega Poljaka, Slovaka, Nemca, ali zadnjega Slovenca?


Lažnivi indoktriniranec se je zopet oglasil.

O kakšnih pogajanjih je govora? Putin hoče, da se Zaporožje, kjer živi 15% ruskega življa prenese v Rusijo. TO JE ZAHTEVA. O čem se bomo pogajali, a?

Sicer pa, a se ti zdi, da je ruska vojska vsega tega sposobna? Ker trenutno se zdi, da se Kitajci in Severnokorejci borijo do zadnjega Rusa.



Ne, ne bomo se pogajali, borili se bomo do zadnjega Ukrajinca, potem pa še do zadnjega Slovenca, samo, da ne bo pogajanj!


In se bomo. To hordo posiljevalcev je treba porazit, pregnat, zatolčt do konca, kolikor se le da.
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sir_mha ::

AtaŠtumf je izjavil:

Še 1000x se lahko napiše, da se s Putinom ne bo pogajalo, ker se baje nič ne drži.

A dejstvo je, če hočemo priti do mira, se bo moralo s Putinom pogajati.

Če bo Putin, Zelensky ali Biden se pripravljen sploh pogajati je pa drugo vprašanje.


Aja saj res, dajmo raje glavo v pesek in se derimo, da se s hitlerjem ne pogaja in se borimo do zadnjega Ukrajinca!

ps: Ko Ukrajincev zmanjka, a se borimo do zadnjega Poljaka, Slovaka, Nemca, ali zadnjega Slovenca?


Z Rusi in s Putinom se vodijo neformalni pogovori. To je v tem trenutku edino možno in smiselno, da se sploh najde neko smer, kjer bi lahko prišlo do "pogajanj". Pogajanja sedaj ne bi prinesla rezultatov.

sir_mha ::

gozdar1 je izjavil:

Glavna ovira za pogajanja so vseskozi rusi s svojimi zahtevami, ki jih ne bi sprejela nobena država. Razen vsituaciji, ko ne bi imela druge izbire(minsk je bil recimo katastrofa za ukrajino , pa se ga rusija vseeno ni držala). Ukrajina je že več kot enkrat podpisala sporazume in bila na koncu izigrana. Brez trdnih varnistnih zagotovil, bodo rusi samo izkoristili predah in potem poskusili ponovno.
Sicer pa putinova vojna je najbolj zdesetkala ravno okupirane pro ruske dele ukrajine, saj jih je putin najprvo uporabil kot topovsko hrano. Počasi se bo podobno zgodilo tudi z raznoraznimi rusimi manjšinami.


Pred kratkim sem bral eno dobro analizo prvih pogajanj, ki so potekala v Belorusiji in Turčiji kmalu na eskalaciji vojne. Avtorica je očitno imela neke insajderske informacije.

Baje je imela Ruska stran velike težave da sploh artikulira, kaj želijo. (opomba: o Krimu se niso hoteli pogajati, ozemeljskih zahtev pa najprej niso hoteli dajati v ospredje.) Omenjal so "denacifikacijo" in "demilitarizacijo", ampak baje so še sami Rusi podjali različne interpretacije, kaj naj bi to bilo. Ukrajinci so pa potem izgubili živce in so povedali, da se o teh nebulozah ne bodo več pogovarjali, da naj pridejo z neko drugo temo. In potem je ostalo samo še ozemlje, na NATO Rusi seveda niso trzali.

Lonsarg ::

Pogajanja neformalna sicer potekajo v ozadju konstantno, sam dokler ni vsaj približnega konsenza pri teh neformalnih, potem tudi delje ne pride do uradnih pogovorov.

Ko so bili Rusi v ofenzivi so Rusi zavračali pogajanja, od kar je v zadnjih 12 mesecev Ukrajina v ofenzivi pa Ukrajinci zavračajo. In geopolitično gledano je to logično, dokler se premikajo meje pač napadalec nima interesa slabo ponudbo sprejet.

Tak da vse kar se dogaja je čisto logično, vojna se bo pač morala izpet do konca da pride do končnega vojaškega izhodišča, nato bodo šele na vrsti pogajanja.

dronyx ::

Tule članek na CNN kako rusi učinkovito uničujejo replike pravega zahodnega orožja. Je pa res, da je verjetno cena replike blizu ceni drona, tako da tu ni nihče na profitu ali izgubi po moje.

sir_mha ::

Lonsarg je izjavil:

Ko so bili Rusi v ofenzivi so Rusi zavračali pogajanja, od kar je v zadnjih 12 mesecev Ukrajina v ofenzivi pa Ukrajinci zavračajo. In geopolitično gledano je to logično, dokler se premikajo meje pač napadalec nima interesa slabo ponudbo sprejet.


Če zadevo pogledaš bolj dolgoročno, potem je vse skupaj malo bolj kompleksno.

Če bi recimo prišlo zgolj do premirja, kar je edino relno v tem trenutku, potem bi Rusi lahko izkoristili čas, da se okrepijo in poskušajo zaflikati luknje, ki jih imajo sedaj. Kasneje pa lahko spet napadejo, in s tem ne bodo nič izgubili, ker ničesar nimajo več izgubiti (recimo, kakšne sankcije in podobno). Tako so naredili recimo proti Čečenom.

Zato so Ukrajinci seveda v situaciji, kjer nimajo druge opcije, kot da se borijo za svojo državo.

BorutO ::

Ne vem, zakaj rusofili stalno omenjajo, da je zahod tisti krivec, ki se noče pogajati z rusi itd ... med tem, ko je putler sam jasno večkrat povedal, da so njemu prioriteta vojaški cilji in ne pogajanja in se ne bo pogajal, dokler ne bo dosegel svoje cilje ... Ampak, ker se rus noče pogajati, je za rusofile avtomatsko Zahod kriv. Če se putler nažre pasulja pred TVjem in nato prdnem bodo rusofili rekli, da je Zahod kriv in ne pasulj.

mojsterleo ::

Rusi se bodo borili v nedogled.
Vsaka pogajanja z Rusi se bodo začela z aneksiranimi 4 Ukrajinskimi oblastmi. Tako da upam, da Ukrajinci trenutno ne mečejo stran svojih življenj za brezveze.
Edina možnost za kakšno drugo rešitev je ta, da pride do spremembe oblasti v Rusiji. Žal na Ruskih 'volitvah' za to ni nobenega upanja, Prigozina pa so se že znebili. :|

BorutO ::

Resnega protikandidata itak ne bo, ker ga bodo prej ubili, še preden bo postal bolj znan javnosti in hkrati bolj priljubljen ... ali pa se bo ob putlerjevem pogledu polulal in pokakal od strahu in odstopil od kandidature. Če je putler pospravil prigožina, kateri mu je bil zelo resen tekmec, potem veste, da bo manjše ribe še prej pospravil. Kdor ga bo oviral na prestolu, že ve, da ne bo dolgo ... lahko samo ugiba na kakšen način bo še samo umrl.

Malidelničar ::

mojsterleo: meje Ukrajine so fiksne, če tega ni potem pade sistem OZN in potem izbruhne WWIII. Ne moreš kar tako nekaj premikati meje, ker se je delusional Putin sedaj to spomnil in tripa na Petra Velikega.
Rusi so priznali Ukrajino v mednarodnopriznanih mejah, če pade pravni sistem OZN, ki deluje z jasnim priznavanjem meja in ozemeljske celovitosti držav, izbruhne WWIII. To mislim, da je vsem jasno. Če se bo tu premikalo meje, potem se jih lahko še malo pri Baltih, pa malo v Srednji Aziji, pa malo po Aziji pa še kje drugje. To je fix.
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.

kow ::

Ce bi Rusi gladko zmagali v Ukrajini, bi verjetno kmalu zasedli tudi severni del Kazahstana.

AvtoR ::

In odprla bi se Pandorina skrinjica...

Bauc ::

kow je izjavil:

Ce bi Rusi gladko zmagali v Ukrajini, bi verjetno kmalu zasedli tudi severni del Kazahstana.

Skoraj zagotovo bi imeli tudi vojno v Moldaviji. Putin bi jo sprovociral iz Transnitrije.

Malidelničar ::

now, AVtoR - saj o tem pišem, pravni sistem OZN ni zajebancija.
No, na srečo Slovenci nimajo besede pri mednarodnopravnem upravljanju sveta, ker te zadeve so za odrasle ne za dojenčke z lopatkami v peskovniku. Odrasli bodo poskrbeli, da sistem obstane, ker v nasprotnem primeru imamo WWIII.
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.

Pac-Man ::

V Rusiji je A320 zasilno pristal na polju, precej naprej od končnega cilja v Omsku. Menda zaradi okvare hidravlike

https://airlive.net/emergency/2023/09/1...

Gre za enega od ugrabljenih letal v najemu, ki so bila po začetku vojne preregistrirana v ruski register

https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plan...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Machete ::

Najprej odpove hidravlika, kasneje sledi še okvara režima in Rusija gre v nov krog odrešenja z novim totiletarcem.
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Pac-Man ::

dober članek v Guardianu, dolgo

‘You may have been poisoned’: how an independent Russian journalist became a target

...

On 24 February 2022, my country attacked Ukraine.

The day of the invasion, I went to Ukraine on assignment from Novaya Gazeta, the independent Russian newspaper where I had been working for 17 years. I crossed the Polish-Ukrainian border on the night of 25 February.

...

In Kherson, Russian soldiers were kidnapping and torturing people. I found people who had survived being tortured. I found the detention centre where the kidnapped people were being held. I learned the names of 44 kidnapped people and the circumstances in which they were taken. I published my article and handed over what I had uncovered to the Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office.

The next place I was aiming to report from was the southern Ukrainian city of Mariupol, where there was active combat and on many days there were no humanitarian corridors.

...

On 28 March, I entered Zaporizhzhia. Waiting at a checkpoint, I started getting messages from friends: “Assholes.” “Hang in there.” “Let me know if I can help.” That’s how I found out that Novaya Gazeta had shut down. The paper had received its second warning that year from the state censorship agency, which meant it could lose its licence. I’d been expecting this from the moment of the incursion, but I didn’t know how painful it would be.

I decided to go to Mariupol anyway. I’d publish my piece wherever I could.

...

I spent the day before our trip in a hotel, trying to gather my strength. A colleague from Novaya called me and asked if I was going to Mariupol. I was puzzled – only two people from the paper knew I was going to Mariupol: the editor-in-chief, Dmitry Muratov, and my editor Olga Bobrova. I said: “Yes, I am going tomorrow.” She said: “My sources have got in touch with me. They know that you’re going to Mariupol. They say that the Kadyrovites have orders to find you.”

...

Forty minutes later, my source from Ukrainian military reconnaissance called. He said: “We have information that an assassination of a female journalist from Novaya Gazeta is being organised in Ukraine. Your description has been sent to every Russian checkpoint.”

...

On the night of 1 April, I left Ukraine.

I left in a very bad state. I had lice, mumps and PTSD. My friends took me in; they passed me from hand to hand. My girlfriend Yana came from Russia and took care of me, made sure I was eating and sleeping.

...

On the evening of 28 April, Muratov called me. He spoke in a very gentle voice. He said: “I know that you want to come home. But you cannot go back to Russia. They will kill you.”

...

On the evening of 17 October, I booked a seat on an overnight train to Munich. On the train I took off my shoes, curled up on the seat and slept. People walked past me; they knocked into my feet. I kept sleeping.

...

When I arrived in Munich, I went to meet my friend, tried to get some sleep, then went to the embassy.

...

When I got on the train, I found my seat and immediately went to the bathroom. I wet some paper towels and started wiping myself off with them. I was covered in sweat. The sweat smelled strong and strange, like rotten fruit.

I sat down and started reading the manuscript of my book. After a while, I realised that I was just reading the same paragraph over and over. My head ached. I’d had Covid three weeks earlier. I thought: “Do I really have it again?”

...

It isn’t easy to see a doctor in Berlin. I was only able to get an appointment on 28 October, 10 days after I became ill. It was a regular clinic in my neighbourhood. The doctors – there were two of them – both immediately said that I had long Covid: “It can go on for up to six months. If you don’t feel better six months from now, come back.”

...

The blood tests came back bad. The levels of ALT and AST (alanine and aspartate aminotransferase) enzymes in my liver were five times above normal. They tested my urine. There was blood in it. The doctors stopped joking around. I was referred to a specialist. She said it was most likely viral hepatitis. “We’ll figure out which one it is and then treat it,” she said.

The hepatitis tests came back negative.

...

Meduza put me in touch with a doctor they trusted. The doctor decided to retest me for hepatitis. The tests came back negative. While I was heading home, he wrote to me: “Is it possible that you have been poisoned?” I replied: “No, I am not that dangerous.”

I told Yana; we laughed. She said: “Oh yeah, the simplest explanation. She must have been poisoned – she is a Russian journalist.”

On 12 December, I went back to my local doctor. I got a new round of tests, and the results had got worse: my ALT was seven times above normal. We sat in her office. She said nothing, going through her papers. Then she said: “Elena, there are two theories left. The first one is that the antidepressants you’re on may have suddenly started working aberrantly. But you recently changed medications, and your symptoms and test results haven’t changed. That’s why we have a second theory. Please try to stay calm. You may have been poisoned.”

...

In order to get blood tests done for poisoning, you have to go to the police. So I did. From the police station, they sent me straight to the hospital. The police officers turned up at the hospital to talk to me and the doctors.

My first session was with the Berlin criminal police and lasted nine hours. They wanted to know everything: what I was working on, and planning to work on, who I had been in contact with in Ukraine, which colleagues I was in contact with now. I had to reconstruct 17 and 18 October minute by minute.

My clothes and apartment were checked for radiation. My body, too. They took the clothes I’d travelled to Munich with. Then the police did a “safety check” of my apartment. An officer asked me: “Why are your blinds open? You could easily be shot from the balcony across the way.” The police told me I needed to follow new safety protocols. Like what? “Move house. Take different routes home. Don’t get cabs directly to your destination; get out a block away. Wear sunglasses.” “That’s it?” “Well, it will all help your chances.”

...

The same senior detective had in 2018 investigated the poisoning of Petr Verzilov, the publisher of Mediazona and a member of Pussy Riot. He had been taken to Charité from Moscow on a private plane, convulsing and delirious. Verzilov’s friends found that the Berlin hospital was under surveillance by the Russians. The police offered Verzilov protection and opened an investigation. “And we weren’t able to establish anything. Not even the substance used.”

“How come?”

“Because it’s impossible to ask a lab: ‘Was this person poisoned?’ You can only ask if there was a specific substance present in their body. And there are thousands of substances. That’s why it’s such a popular means of assassination.


...

On 2 April, at a journalism conference, I was approached by Roman Dobrokhotov, editor-in-chief of the Insider, an independent Russia-focused news website. He took me aside. “Lena, I have a personal question. But first I need to tell you something. Christo Grozev from Bellingcat and I have been investigating a series of poisonings in Europe. All the known targets are female Russian journalists. I want to ask you: you haven’t written anything for a long time – is it because you’ve been sick?”

And I told him what I am telling you now.


...

How am I now? The pain, nausea and swelling have gone. I still have no energy. I left Meduza – I am a long way away from being able to return to the field. Right now I can work three hours a day. This keeps increasing, but slowly. There are days when I can’t do anything. I lie there and try not to hate myself.

...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Machete ::

Rodin aka fosfor? Ni radioktiven.
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BorutO ::

Kako ukrajinski starčki, kateri se še edini borijo za Ukrajino (po mnenju rusofilov), v 24-ih urah onesposobijo čez 500 ruskih vojakov ...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/in...

CoolBits ::

Zanimivo se pozdravljajo vladajoči v ukraini ;((

Zgodovina sprememb…

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PacificBlue ::

Mislim, da vidim Borisa Johnsona:>
I’m out.
:3

CoolBits ::

Prav vidiš ja, je v Ukrajini na obisku, verjetno ima neke interese.

Zgodovina sprememb…

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Bauc ::

CoolBits je izjavil:

Zanimivo se pozdravljajo vladajoči v ukraini ;((


To je fake za tiste, ki imajo vakum v lobanji. Tu imaš original.

Doctored photo of Boris Johnson doing Nazi salute while being awarded an honorary doctorate at a university in Lviv, Ukraine. Being spread by a Brexiteer, of course

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Machete ::

CoolBits je izjavil:

Zanimivo se pozdravljajo vladajoči v ukraini ;((



Kok zabit morš bit..
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Kawhi ::

pa povrh vsega še zelo slab photoshop

Bauc ::

Pol pa trdijo, da smo mi zavedeni in da oni znajo pridobiti pravilne informacije. Na koncu pa nasedejo zadevi, ki se po eni minuti brskanja izkaže za fake. Malce samorefleksije ne bi škodilo:D

Machete ::

Minuti brskanja? Z druge strani sobe na zaslonu vidim, da je fejk.
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