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Volitve v ZDA 2020

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Samuel ::

Biden je tako bogi, da ga je težko gledat.
Kar predtavljajte si ga govort pred tisoči, kot to dela Trump. Po moje niti stat ne more sam več kot 10 minut.
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Fritz ::

Ne morš verjet... :))

"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

xx23 ::

Samuel je izjavil:

Biden je tako bogi, da ga je težko gledat.


Sramota po morebitnem porazu proti tako bogemu kandidatu bo zato za Trumpa in njegove podpornike toliko večja.

Pac-Man ::

Fritz je izjavil:

Ne morš verjet... :))



Sarin tejk:

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Samuel ::

xx23 je izjavil:

Samuel je izjavil:

Biden je tako bogi, da ga je težko gledat.


Sramota po morebitnem porazu proti tako bogemu kandidatu bo zato za Trumpa in njegove podpornike toliko večja.


Biden je podpiral vse napačne odločitve ZDA v zadnjih 20 letih. Od vojn naprej.
Je popolnoma neprimeren ter skorumpiran kandidat s podporo Kitajske. Ruska koluzija je otroški vrtec s tem, kar se gre Biden in Kitajci.
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Pac-Man ::

Potegni glavo iz riti.



Najnovejša drama v ZDA je, da so po poročanju NYT, WaPo in WSJ Rusi plačevali talibanom za ubite NATO vojake. Trump je vedel od marca, dali so mu več opcij za posredovanje, on pa je raje vabil Putina v G7/8, ki ga gostijo ZDA.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/p...

The United States concluded months ago that the Russian unit, which has been linked to assassination attempts and other covert operations in Europe intended to destabilize the West or take revenge on turncoats, had covertly offered rewards for successful attacks last year.

Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, are believed to have collected some bounty money, the officials said. Twenty Americans were killed in combat in Afghanistan in 2019, but it was not clear which killings were under suspicion.

The intelligence finding was briefed to President Trump, and the White House’s National Security Council discussed the problem at an interagency meeting in late March, the officials said. Officials developed a menu of potential options — starting with making a diplomatic complaint to Moscow and a demand that it stop, along with an escalating series of sanctions and other possible responses, but the White House has yet to authorize any step, the officials said.




Fox News navaja WSJ:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/russian-spy-...
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Pac-Man ::

Jon Stewart:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jon...

In the real world, though, the Democratic Party is in the midst of some significant shake-ups. Recent election cycles have seen young progressives like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar and, most recently, Jamaal Bowman win key Congressional seats over more established candidates. And Stewart is heartened by the way existing party gatekeepers are being challenged by new voices. “Anytime people bring an idealistic energy to it, it’s exciting to see,” he tells Yahoo Entertainment. (Watch our video interview above.)

At the same time, he cautions emerging Democratic voters and politicians against pursuing a “Burn it all down” model as a means for real change. “There’s a spectrum on this that’s all the way from superficial reform to Arab spring, and you kind of want to land somewhere where the change is sustainable, but isn’t nihilistic,” Stewart explains. “People won’t stand for chaos; it won’t make the type of change you want sustainable. I love seeing people express their ideas and get a process that’s more closely tied to what they actually needed.”
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Vazelin ::

I got 99 problems but 4 usd XTZ ain't one.

zasekamroz ::

Bravo Trump, treba ustavit uničevanje spomenikov.

MAGA

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Samuel ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Potegni glavo iz riti.

Boš moral ja. Je že čas.

Najnovejša drama v ZDA je, da so po poročanju NYT, WaPo in WSJ

Dear lord, someone help you...
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Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Potegni glavo iz riti.

Najnovejša drama v ZDA je, da so po poročanju NYT, WaPo in WSJ Rusi plačevali talibanom za ubite NATO vojake. Trump je vedel od marca, dali so mu več opcij za posredovanje, on pa je raje vabil Putina v G7/8, ki ga gostijo ZDA.

Ravno tale drama je iz riti potegnjena in ni prvič, da je NYT trobilo mojstrov iz Centralne obveščevalne.

Če bi Rusi (ali Iranci, ko smo že pri tem) hoteli videti množično umiranje Američanov v Afganistanu ter popoln polom njihove operacije na tleh Afganistana, bi Talibanom dali prenosne protiletalske rakete in bi se zgodba zaključila.

Saj veš, tako kot so to naredili Američani proti Sovjetom, ko so predhodnikom Talibanov dali Stingerje. Vendar se Rusi in Iranci dobro zavedajo s kakšnimi pacienti imajo opravka in da se bodo morali sami nekoč ukvarjati z njimi, če jim pomagajo pridobiti takšno prevlado na bojišču.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
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Fritz ::

In ne pozabiti, kdo je vse to ustvaril (vključno z Al-Qaedo):
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Fritz ::

Well this is unusual. "CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence. This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence" - @PressSec

Domnevno, bojda, naj bi...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

dio1ds ::

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Pac-Man ::

Fritz je izjavil:

Well this is unusual. "CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence. This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence" - @PressSec

Domnevno, bojda, naj bi...


Obveščevalni podatki so klasificirani. Zato ne morejo potrditi, niso pa zanikali.

to

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
Things that are public knowledge can still end up classified if there's an indication of who in the government knows it, what they think about it, and how they know it. Classification isn't just about which facts are known or not known.

in to

https://twitter.com/20committee/status/...
Classified information isn't unclassified until a proper authority (usually the originating agency) deems it UNCLAS and releasable to the public.
There is lots of TS+ information out there (thanks, Snowden) which is still classified in the eyes of USG.




dio1ds je izjavil:

Paco tole si že postal?

Demokrati imajo prednost v urbanih središčih?

Holy guacamole, batman.
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Samuel ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Obveščevalni podatki so klasificirani. Zato ne morejo potrditi, niso pa zanikali.


V glavnem. Sveta trojica fake news-arstva si je že spet nekaj izmislila.

dio1ds je izjavil:

Paco tole si že postal?
Demokrati imajo prednost v urbanih središčih?
Holy guacamole, batman.


V tistih z najvišjim deležem kriminala, seveda.
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Pac-Man ::

V vseh. Iz članka:

In the 2018 House elections, Democrats won every district identified by CityLab as being purely urban. They lost only one district identified as an "urban-suburban mix." In other words, Democrats won 81 of the 82 congressional districts identified as fully or partially urban.
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Samuel ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

V vseh. Iz članka:

In the 2018 House elections, Democrats won every district identified by CityLab as being purely urban. They lost only one district identified as an "urban-suburban mix." In other words, Democrats won 81 of the 82 congressional districts identified as fully or partially urban.


Kaj to pišeš?? Mayoral party je tista stranka iz katere prihaja župan.

Kakorkoli že. Ameriška mesta so leglo težkega kriminala in Demokrati nimajo pojma, kako to rešit. Morebiti bi morali vprašat une, ki držijo čez podeželje za kakšen nasvet.

List of mayors of the 50 largest cities in the United States @ Wikipedia

34 demokratov
13 republikancev
2 neodvisni
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Pac-Man ::

Bivši agent CIA, ki je delal na PDB. Kakorkoli obračaš, stvar zgleda grda za administracijo.

https://twitter.com/DavidPriess/status/...

Maybe multiple sources are all wrong and there is no such assessment. (Neither the White House nor other entities have denied the core of the reporting, making this option quite unlikely, but it’s theoretically possible.)
If so, shame on the sources.

Maybe the assessment was briefed only sub-POTUS because it was judged not to merit his attention. (This would be at odds with reporting just now by the same NYT trio—that it was, in fact, in the President’s Daily Brief.)
If so, shame on the system.

Maybe POTUS was, in fact, orally briefed on it—but White House officials have decided to lie about it, perhaps in a weak attempt to avoid the logical next question: Why hasn’t the commander in chief responded to such a grave development?
If so, shame on them. And on him.

Maybe POTUS was “briefed” on it—not orally but only in writing, presumably (but not necessarily) in the President’s Daily Brief. If so, White House officials now pushing the line that he wasn’t briefed on it are playing semantic games.
If so, shame on them. And on him.

Maybe it was in the written PDB, but Trump didn’t see it (reports say he doesn’t read it, preferring irregular oral briefings) *and* readers like the NatSec Advisor, SecState, and SecDef saw it *and* they forgot to ensure he knew about it.
If so, shame on them. And on him.

Maybe it was deemed too sensitive to put in the PDB and restricted to a memo/oral briefing only for POTUS and 1-2 others. Then how was it debated, as reports indicate, at an NSC interagency meeting?
Any explanation like this returns us to one or more of the shames above.

Or maybe the assessment was in the PDB and other regular PDB readers saw it, but it wasn’t orally briefed to POTUS so he never got it, and nobody in the system wanted this commander in chief to get it, because they were afraid of what he’d do, or *not* do, after getting it.
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Samuel ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Bivši agent CIA, ki je delal na PDB. Kakorkoli obračaš, stvar zgleda grda za administracijo.


Grdo zgleda samo za medije, ki so se to izmislili in za tiste, ki to sharajo okrog. Bela hiša in Moskva sta to že zanikale.

dio1ds je izjavil:

Paco tole si že postal?

Trump keeps claiming that the most dangerous cities in America are all run by Democrats. They aren't.



Saj se lahko samo smeješ...
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Pac-Man ::

Bela hiša je zanikala samo, da predsednik kaj ve o tem, Moskva pa tako ali tako vse zanika.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaDenies/
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Samuel ::

in še za 100 največjih mest v ZDA (niti v sanjah niso vsa pod Demokrati)

Party affiliation of the mayors of the 100 largest cities
https://ballotpedia.org/Party_affiliati...

64 demokratov
29 republiokancev
7 neodvisni
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Fritz ::

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Bivši agent CIA, ki je delal na PDB. Kakorkoli obračaš, stvar zgleda grda za administracijo.

https://twitter.com/DavidPriess/status/...

Maybe multiple sources are all wrong
Maybe the assessment was briefed only
Maybe POTUS was, in fact, orally briefed
Maybe POTUS was briefed on it not orally
Maybe it was in the written PDB
Maybe it was deemed too sensitive
Or maybe the assessment was in the PDB

7 x maybe doesn't make it a truth.

In običajno je tako, da z dvomljivimi obveščevalnimi podatki ne moriš predsednika. Američani so si luknjo v Afganistanu sami skopali in tudi sami skočili vanjo. Če bi bil iranski režim pol toliko pokvarjen kot ameriški režim, bi imeli talibani že zdavnaj prenosne protiletalske sisteme in bi v Afganistanu deževali helikopterji in letala.
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kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
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Pac-Man ::

Novo, zasegli so denar in zaslišali zajete. Republikanska koalicija malenkost poka.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/us/p...

The crucial information that led the spies and commandos to focus on the bounties included the recovery of a large amount of American cash from a raid on a Taliban outpost that prompted suspicions. Interrogations of captured militants and criminals played a central role in making the intelligence community confident in its assessment that the Russians had offered and paid bounties in 2019, another official has said.

Armed with this information, military and intelligence officials have been reviewing American and other coalition combat casualties since early last year to determine whether any were victims of the plot. Four Americans were killed in combat in early 2020, but the Taliban have not attacked American positions since a February agreement to end the long-running war in Afghanistan.

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Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the third-ranking House Republican, said in a Twitter message on Sunday: “If reporting about Russian bounties on U.S. forces is true, the White House must explain: 1. Why weren’t the president or vice president briefed? Was the info in the PDB? 2. Who did know and when? 3. What has been done in response to protect our forces & hold Putin accountable?”

Multiple Republicans retweeted Ms. Cheney’s post. Representative Daniel Crenshaw, Republican of Texas and a former Navy SEAL, amplified her message, tweeting, “We need answers.”

On CNN, Senator Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, said that the reported Russian actions “would be consistent with the Russian practice over the last few years of doing its best secretly to try to undermine Western government, including the United States.”




Trump je vmes RT in kasneje izbrisal video pro/kontra protestnikov v upokojenski skupnosti na Floridi. En od njegovih se zadere "white power".

https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/stat...
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/stat...

Nekje 50/50, da je zadevo izvedel namenoma ali pa je res toliko senilen, da ni opazil.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/bolt...

Former US national security adviser John Bolton wrote that President Donald Trump's 2018 statement defending Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) after a journalist was murdered in a Saudi consulate was aimed at diverting attention from his daughter's personal email scandal.

According to excerpts from his memoir, The Room Where It Happened, Bolton said that Trump wrote and read aloud a statement to news media defending MBS after the murder of Middle East Eye columnist Jamal Khashoggi to distract attention from the fact that his daughter Ivanka had sent hundreds of personal emails to White House aides and Cabinet officials in violation of federal records rules.

"This will divert from Ivanka," Trump said at the time, according to an excerpt from the book published by The Washington Post. "If I read the statement in person, that will take over the Ivanka thing."




Se ne spomnim, da bi to izjavo že kdaj videl. Funky as hell.

Statement from President Donald J. Trump on Standing with Saudi Arabia
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Fritz ::

@ PacMan
Novo, zasegli so denar in zaslišali zajete. Republikanska koalicija malenkost poka.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/us/p...

The crucial information that led the spies and commandos to focus on the bounties included the recovery of a large amount of American cash from a raid on a Taliban outpost that prompted suspicions. Interrogations of captured militants and criminals played a central role in making the intelligence community confident in its assessment that the Russians had offered and paid bounties in 2019, another official has said.

Armed with this information, military and intelligence officials have been reviewing American and other coalition combat casualties since early last year to determine whether any were victims of the plot. Four Americans were killed in combat in early 2020, but the Taliban have not attacked American positions since a February agreement to end the long-running war in Afghanistan.


Obstaja cela kopica argumentov zakaj to ne pije vode in zelo malo argumentov, ki so vsi domnevno obveščevalni podatki o domnevnem dogajanju, ki bi imeli neko logiko zakaj bi temu bilo tako. Zakaj bi plačeval Talibanom za napade na ameriške vojake, če to že tako ali tako počno?

Russia wants the US out of Afghanistan. US is now on track finally to get out of Afghanistan. Why would Russia want to do anything that halts US exit. The US "deep state," on the other hand, doesn't want to leave Afghanistan and will do just about anything to prevent this.
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Pac-Man ::

Na dolgo o Obami v aktivnem penzionu. Priporočam.

NYT: How the Trump Campaign Is Drawing Obama Out of Retirement
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Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/stat...

Donald Trump might not know it, but this is his resignation letter.
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Samuel ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/stat...

Donald Trump might not know it, but this is his resignation letter.


S strani Demokratov in anti Trump medijev podžgani protesti in s tem povezano povečanje števila okuženih, je "Trumpov resignation letter"? To praviš? 8-O
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Pac-Man ::

Počakaj, da se virus "prime" v The Villages, upokojenski skupnosti na Floridi.



https://www.insidethebubble.net/coronav...

Today, Florida reported another record for daily new coronavirus cases, with more than 8,900 new cases. It was a rough week in The Villages too, which now has more than 100 cases.

As you might expect, with numbers rising like they are, the brakes are being pumped on our “re-opening”, starting with bars. Some businesses that have been open, are now shutting back down, either as a precaution, or as a result of their employees or customers contracting the virus.
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dio1ds ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Počakaj, da se virus "prime" v The Villages, upokojenski skupnosti na Floridi.


Mokre sanje Pacota in demokratov!

Upa, da bodo protesti prinesli virus v upokojensko skupnost na Floridi in da bo starejša populacija umrla, vse je dovoljeno, samo, da Trump ne zmaga!
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Pac-Man ::

Kaj je projekcija?

Florida man threatened over anti-Trump golf cart
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Samuel ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Počakaj, da se virus "prime" v The Villages, upokojenski skupnosti na Floridi.


Zakaj naj bi sploh vpivalo na volitve? Glede na to, da je nekaj demokratskih guvernerjev kršilo priporočila (med njimi tudi Cuomo iz NY) ter poslali okužene v dome za ostarele.

https://slo-tech.com/forum/t761244/p676...

So direktno soodgovorni za deset tisoče mrtvih starejših.
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Carl Bernstein @ Wikipedia za CNN. Trump ogroža ameriške interese in nacionalno varnost.

From pandering to Putin to abusing allies and ignoring his own advisers, Trump's phone calls alarm US officials

In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues, so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and so abusive to leaders of America's principal allies, that the calls helped convince some senior US officials -- including his former secretaries of state and defense, two national security advisers and his longest-serving chief of staff -- that the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States, according to White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations.

The calls caused former top Trump deputies -- including national security advisers H.R. McMaster and John Bolton, Defense Secretary James Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and White House chief of staff John Kelly, as well as intelligence officials -- to conclude that the President was often "delusional," as two sources put it, in his dealings with foreign leaders.


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By far the greatest number of Trump's telephone discussions with an individual head of state were with Erdogan, who sometimes phoned the White House at least twice a week and was put through directly to the President on standing orders from Trump, according to the sources. Meanwhile, the President regularly bullied and demeaned the leaders of America's principal allies, especially two women: telling Prime Minister Theresa May of the United Kingdom she was weak and lacked courage; and telling German Chancellor Angela Merkel that she was "stupid."

Trump incessantly boasted to his fellow heads of state, including Saudi Arabia's autocratic royal heir Mohammed bin Salman and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, about his own wealth, genius, "great" accomplishments as President, and the "idiocy" of his Oval Office predecessors, according to the sources.

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Like Bolton, CNN's sources said that the President seemed to continually conflate his own personal interests -- especially for purposes of re-election and revenge against perceived critics and political enemies -- with the national interest.

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One person familiar with almost all the conversations with the leaders of Russia, Turkey, Canada, Australia and western Europe described the calls cumulatively as 'abominations' so grievous to US national security interests that if members of Congress heard from witnesses to the actual conversations or read the texts and contemporaneous notes, even many senior Republican members would no longer be able to retain confidence in the President.

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The insidious effect of the conversations comes from Trump's tone, his raging outbursts at allies while fawning over authoritarian strongmen, his ignorance of history and lack of preparation as much as it does from the troubling substance, according to the sources.

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Two sources compared many of the President's conversations with foreign leaders to Trump's recent press "briefings" on the coronavirus pandemic: free form, fact-deficient stream-of-consciousness ramblings, full of fantasy and off-the-wall pronouncements based on his intuitions, guesswork, the opinions of Fox News TV hosts and social media misinformation.

In addition to Merkel and May, the sources said, Trump regularly bullied and disparaged other leaders of the western alliance during his phone conversations -- including French President Emmanuel Macron, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison -- in the same hostile and aggressive way he discussed the coronavirus with some of America's governors.

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But his most vicious attacks, said the sources, were aimed at women heads of state. In conversations with both May and Merkel, the President demeaned and denigrated them in diatribes described as "near-sadistic" by one of the sources and confirmed by others. "Some of the things he said to Angela Merkel are just unbelievable: he called her 'stupid,' and accused her of being in the pocket of the Russians ... He's toughest [in the phone calls] with those he looks at as weaklings and weakest with the ones he ought to be tough with."

The calls "are so unusual," confirmed a German official, that special measures were taken in Berlin to ensure that their contents remained secret. The official described Trump's behavior with Merkel in the calls as "very aggressive" and said that the circle of German officials involved in monitoring Merkel's calls with Trump has shrunk: "It's just a small circle of people who are involved and the reason, the main reason, is that they are indeed problematic."

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Merkel remained calm and outwardly unruffled in the face of Trump's attacks —"like water off a duck's back," in the words of one source -- and she regularly countered his bluster with recitations of fact. The German official quoted above said that during Merkel's visit to the White House two years ago, Trump displayed "very questionable behavior" that "was quite aggressive ... [T]he Chancellor indeed stayed calm, and that's what she does on the phone."

Prime Minister May, in contrast, became "flustered and nervous" in her conversations with the President. "He clearly intimidated her and meant to," said one of CNN's sources.


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In his phone exchanges with Putin, the sources reported, the President talked mostly about himself, frequently in over-the-top, self-aggrandizing terms: touting his "unprecedented" success in building the US economy; asserting in derisive language how much smarter and "stronger" he is than "the imbeciles" and "weaklings" who came before him in the presidency (especially Obama); reveling in his experience running the Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow, and obsequiously courting Putin's admiration and approval. Putin "just outplays" him, said a high-level administration official -- comparing the Russian leader to a chess grandmaster and Trump to an occasional player of checkers. While Putin "destabilizes the West," said this source, the President of the United States "sits there and thinks he can build himself up enough as a businessman and tough guy that Putin will respect him." (At times, the Putin-Trump conversations sounded like "two guys in a steam bath," a source added.)

In numerous calls with Putin that were described to CNN, Trump left top national security aides and his chiefs of staff flabbergasted, less because of specific concessions he made than because of his manner -- inordinately solicitous of Putin's admiration and seemingly seeking his approval -- while usually ignoring substantive policy expertise and important matters on the standing bilateral agenda, including human rights; and an arms control agreement, which never got dealt with in a way that advanced shared Russian and American goals that both Putin and Trump professed to favor, CNN's sources said.

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In separate interviews, two high-level administration officials familiar with most of the Trump-Putin calls said the President naively elevated Russia -- a second-rate totalitarian state with less than 4% of the world's GDP -- and its authoritarian leader almost to parity with the United States and its President by undermining the tougher, more realistic view of Russia expressed by the US Congress, American intelligence agencies and the long-standing post-war policy consensus of the US and its European allies. "He [Trump] gives away the advantage that was hard won in the Cold War," said one of the officials -- in part by "giving Putin and Russia a legitimacy they never had," the official said. "He's given Russia a lifeline -- because there is no doubt that they're a declining power ... He's playing with something he doesn't understand and he's giving them power that they would use [aggressively]."

Both officials cited Trump's decision to pull US troops out of Syria -- a move that benefited Turkey as well as Russia -- as perhaps the most grievous example. "He gave away the store," one of them said.

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Erdogan became so adept at knowing when to reach the President directly that some White House aides became convinced that Turkey's security services in Washington were using Trump's schedule and whereabouts to provide Erdogan with information about when the President would be available for a call.

On some occasions Erdogan reached him on the golf course and Trump would delay play while the two spoke at length.

Two sources described the President as woefully uninformed about the history of the Syrian conflict and the Middle East generally, and said he was often caught off guard, and lacked sufficient knowledge to engage on equal terms in nuanced policy discussion with Erdogan. "Erdogan took him to the cleaners," said one of the sources.

...

In addition to rough, voice-generated software transcription, almost all of Trump's telephone conversations with Putin, Erdogan and leaders of the western alliance were supplemented and documented by extensive contemporaneous note-taking (and, often, summaries) prepared by Fiona Hill, deputy assistant to the President and senior NSC director for Europe and Russia until her resignation last year. Hill listened to most of the President's calls with Putin, Erdogan and the European leaders, according to her closed-door testimony before the House Intelligence Committee last November.

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In one of the earliest calls between Putin and Trump, the President's son-in-law Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump were in the room to listen — joining McMaster, Tillerson, Hill, and a State Department aide to Tillerson.

"The call was all over the place," said an NSC deputy who read a detailed summary of the conversation -- with Putin speaking substantively and at length, and Trump propping himself up in short autobiographical bursts of bragging, self-congratulation and flattery toward Putin. As described to CNN, Kushner and Ivanka Trump were immediately effusive in their praise of how Trump had handled the call -- while Tillerson (who knew Putin well from his years in Russia as an oil executive), Hill and McMaster were skeptical.

Hill — author of a definitive biography of Putin -- started to explain some of the nuances she perceived from the call, according to CNN's sources — offering insight into Putin's psychology, his typical "smooth-talking" and linear approach and what the Russian leader was trying to achieve in the call. Hill was cut off by Trump, and the President continued discussing the call with Jared and Ivanka, making clear he wanted to hear the congratulatory evaluation of his daughter and her husband, rather than how Hill, Tillerson or McMaster judged the conversation.

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"Trump's view is that he is a better judge of character than anyone else," said one of CNN's sources. The President consistently rejected advice from US defense, intelligence and national security principals that the Russian president be approached more firmly and with less trust.

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"With almost every problem, all it takes [in his phone calls] is someone asking him to do something as President on behalf of the United States and he doesn't see it that way; he goes to being ripped off; he's not interested in cooperative issues or working on them together; instead he's deflecting things or pushing real issues off into a corner," said a US official.

"There was no sense of 'Team America' in the conversations," or of the United States as an historic force with certain democratic principles and leadership of the free world, said the official. "The opposite. It was like the United States had disappeared. It was always 'Just me'."
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

dio1ds ::

A še vedno tega izvenelega starčka Bernsteina postaš in poslušaš, kaj je že razlagal za hoax Trump - Russia collusion?

Carl Bernstein: Russia probe feels 'worse than Watergate'
Pojdi raje na kolo in vrži kak kamen!

Pac-Man ::

Saj je.

Watergate je bil notranjepolitični problem, Russiagate pa je zraven potegnila še Ukrajino in od kongresa odobreno pomoč njej.

Cilj obeh je bila pridobitev nelegitimne prednosti na volitvah.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

DJT je swiftboatan.

Malo me moti, da je vse skupaj prezgodaj, ampak zagrabiš priložnost, ki se ti ponudi?

Swiftboating @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Kaj so Američani izvolili:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta...
Isn't the WORLD tired of hearing President Obama say he knew nothing about anything-time to take responsibility for all of your mistakes!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta...
Fact--Obama does not read his intelligence briefings nor does he get briefed in person by the CIA or DOD. Too busy I guess!



Kaj so Američani dobili:

White House Says Trump Didn't Know About Russia Bounty Scandal
Officials couldn't reach Trump on golf course to delete retweet of video showing man chanting 'white power': report
www.trumpgolfcount.com




Če nisi del sekte ti je jasno, da to ni to. Zato:

Trump has lost his senior advantage. And that could cost him in November.

Jay Copan was part of the coalition that made Donald Trump president in 2016. Now he’s had enough and plans to send Trump into retirement.

Copan, 68, who lives in Raleigh, North Carolina, considers himself fiscally and socially conservative. A white male and registered independent in a swing state, he has voted Republican in each of the last nine presidential elections. He supports Trump's tax cuts, energy policy and judges. He’s precisely the type of voter that Republicans should be able to win — and cannot afford to lose.

But Copan says he'll vote for Joe Biden this fall.

"At the end of the day I want this to be a better country for my grandkids growing up. And having a president who's a pathological liar, a sociopath, a narcissist, a misogynist and a bully is not the way I want to leave this country," Copan said. "In spite of my views on the issues, I don't see any way I could support him to be president for another four years because of how he’s behaved."
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

DJT je swiftboatan.

Malo me moti, da je vse skupaj prezgodaj, ampak zagrabiš priložnost, ki se ti ponudi?

Swiftboating @ Wikipedia

Tole je itaq propaganda. Veš, da ne maram Trumpa a ta zgodba je svetovno privlečena za ušesa. Sicer pa tudi, če bi bila resnična, kaj lahko Trumpo naredi? Popolnoma nič, ker Američani takšne in še hujše svinjarije počno serijsko in zato, ker eskalacije z Rusi ne moreš goniti v nedogled ne da bi tvegal resno nevarnost vojne.

Kar se tiče tvojega naslednjega komentarja. Trumpu je za vse to vseeno. Vseeno mu je koliko ljudi ve, da laže, da je pokvarjenec, da je idiot etc. He's not responsible. Njegovim pristašem je ravno tako vseeno. Popolnoma vseeno.

In glavni point je, da je med korona krizo 45 mil. Američanov izgubilo službo medtem, ko je 0,1% obogatel za približno 500 mlrd. $ iz naslova državnih pomoči. Plus, da je zunanja politika ZDA vodena iz Tel Aviva.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Ali pač? Prestregli so nakazila ruskih obveščevalcev talibanom.

NYT:

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1278...
US officials intercepted large financial transfers from a bank account controlled by Russia’s military intel agency to a Taliban-linked account, which is among the evidence that bolstered the conclusion that Russia offered bounties for killing troops.

"... analysts concluded from other intelligence that the transfers were most likely part of a bounty program that [Taliban] detainees described during interrogations. Investigators also identified by name numerous Afghans in a network linked to the suspected Russian operation..."


Trumpu so dali meni opcij. Od diplomatske "We see you, please stop," do raznih eskalacij. Putin's bitch ni naredila nič.


Republikanski volivci niso ravno zadovoljni s stanjem v državi. Lahko gre za BLM efekt, ampak na koncu odseva na predsednika.

https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/...
Until today, GOP satisfaction with how things are going in the US had been above 50% for nearly all of Trump’s presidency.
It is now 19%.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Truga ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Kaj so Američani izvolili:


Kaj so Američani dobili:


Če nisi del sekte ti je jasno, da to ni to.

res je. ze obama je na kampanji obljubljal upe (hope!) in spremembe (change!). trump je obama 2.0, biden, ce zmaga, pa bo obama 3.0.

nekateri pajaci danes vpijejo v nebo kako je biden "most progressivest candidate everer", tipo je pa desno od janeza po prakticno vsem, lmao. liberalci bojo jasno zelo zacudeni, ce biden slucajno zmaga (trump se zmage otepa skoraj tako dobro kot hillary 2016, tko da ni nemogoce), protesti pa se ne bojo nic zmanjsali. "saj zdaj je zmagal nas right wing shithead, pejte dam, sranje bo se vedno isto ampak mi smo bl prjazni kot nesramen trump!" trolololo

kuall ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Republikanski volivci niso ravno zadovoljni s stanjem v državi.


Lol genij. Seveda niso zadovoljni s stanjem v državi, če pa pustoši po njej fakin Kitajska epidemija.

zmaugy ::

Samuel je izjavil:



Grdo zgleda samo za medije, ki so se to izmislili in za tiste, ki to sharajo okrog. Bela hiša in Moskva sta to že zanikale.


Potem bo pa vse OK, Trumpova Bela hiša in Moskva pa že ne bi lagali...
Biseri...

Poldi112 ::

kuall je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Republikanski volivci niso ravno zadovoljni s stanjem v državi.


Lol genij. Seveda niso zadovoljni s stanjem v državi, če pa pustoši po njej fakin Kitajska epidemija.


A je to una epidemija, ki smo jo v EU supešno zajezili, v US so pogrnili na celi črti? A so še kar kitajci krivi za naravo, medtem ko je odziv USA administracije odličen?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.

bobi_palčka ::

zmaugy je izjavil:

Samuel je izjavil:



Grdo zgleda samo za medije, ki so se to izmislili in za tiste, ki to sharajo okrog. Bela hiša in Moskva sta to že zanikale.


Potem bo pa vse OK, Trumpova Bela hiša in Moskva pa že ne bi lagali...


Je kje kakšno pojasnilo zakaj naj bi to počeli? Normalni človek bi pričakoval, da bi plačevali, da dajo mir, da ZDA odstranijo svoje enote iz bližnje regije.

Fritz ::



@realDonaldTrump
As I watch the Pandemic spread its ugly face all across the world, including the tremendous damage it has done to the USA, I become more and more angry at China. People can see it, and I can feel it!

Moraš biti pa res omejen, da požiraš takšne fore.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Fritz ::

bobi_palčka je izjavil:

zmaugy je izjavil:

Samuel je izjavil:



Grdo zgleda samo za medije, ki so se to izmislili in za tiste, ki to sharajo okrog. Bela hiša in Moskva sta to že zanikale.


Potem bo pa vse OK, Trumpova Bela hiša in Moskva pa že ne bi lagali...


Je kje kakšno pojasnilo zakaj naj bi to počeli? Normalni človek bi pričakoval, da bi plačevali, da dajo mir, da ZDA odstranijo svoje enote iz bližnje regije.

"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Samuel ::

Poldi112 je izjavil:

A je to una epidemija, ki smo jo v EU supešno zajezili, v US so pogrnili na celi črti? A so še kar kitajci krivi za naravo, medtem ko je odziv USA administracije odličen?


št. mrtvih po državah od Covida:
ZDA 39/100k ljudi
Italija 58/100k ljudi
Francija 44/100k ljudi
Španija 60/100k ljudi
VB 66/100k ljudi
Švedska 52/100k ljudi

ZDA je odprta država, tam te nihče ne more prisilit, da nosiš maske.

kuall je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Republikanski volivci niso ravno zadovoljni s stanjem v državi.


Lol genij. Seveda niso zadovoljni s stanjem v državi, če pa pustoši po njej fakin Kitajska epidemija.


Ne samo kitajski virus, najbolj jih je strah #defundpolice.
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zmaugy ::

bobi_palčka je izjavil:

zmaugy je izjavil:

Samuel je izjavil:



Grdo zgleda samo za medije, ki so se to izmislili in za tiste, ki to sharajo okrog. Bela hiša in Moskva sta to že zanikale.


Potem bo pa vse OK, Trumpova Bela hiša in Moskva pa že ne bi lagali...


Je kje kakšno pojasnilo zakaj naj bi to počeli? Normalni človek bi pričakoval, da bi plačevali, da dajo mir, da ZDA odstranijo svoje enote iz bližnje regije.


Haha, danes je virus naivnosti na pohodu. Le zakaj si bi ruski alfa samec želel ponižati ameriškega, ki ima za sabo močnejšo in bogatejšo državo? Res nepredstavljivo.
Biseri...

Samuel ::

zmaugy je izjavil:

Haha, danes je virus naivnosti na pohodu. Le zakaj si bi ruski alfa samec želel ponižati ameriškega, ki ima za sabo močnejšo in bogatejšo državo? Res nepredstavljivo.


folk...

Iran pays $1000 for each US soldier killed by the Taliban
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39014669/ns/w...

Kdo je bil predsednik leta 2010?
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Smrekar1 ::

Samuel je izjavil:


folk...

Iran pays $1000 for each US soldier killed by the Taliban
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39014669/ns/w...

Kdo je bil predsednik leta 2010?


To Iran dela že desetletja. Kolikor vem nobeden od predsednikov ZDA v zadnjih 40 letih ni bil nekaj prijateljski do Irana.

Trump je kar precej prijateljski s Putinom. V BDSM smilsu.

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