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zmaugy ::

Krebs odpuščen iz DHS ker je izjavil, da ni bilo z volitvami nič narobe:



Kaže, da se z državnim udarom misli resno.
Biseri...

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Bwaze6 ::

V posameznih okrožjih v ZDA zdaj volilne komisije ne certificirajo končnih rezultatov, ki so osnova za nadaljne postopke. Trump jih je že pohvalil, in potem besnel, ko so nekateri vseeno potrdili rezultate (bojda zaradi pritiskov demokratov). Ampak očitno je to novo bojišče, in zakoni tu volilnim komisijam v bistvu puščajo precej avtonomije, podobno se lahko zgodi tudi na državnih ravneh.

Skratka, it ain't over till the fat orange man sings.

Poldi112 ::

kuall je izjavil:

friendbreez je izjavil:

Če se Texas in Florida premakneta na modro stran, Republikanci ne bodo zmagali predsedniških volitev desetletja in desetletja.

Amerika ni Slovenija, kjer lahko leve stranke vladajo 70 let skupaj z manjšimi pavzami mešanih vlad. Drugačna mentaliteta prebivalstva je.
Amerika je v svojem bistvu desna in zato je tudi najbolj uspešna država na svetu, tak da se bo že nekako našel način, da spet zmaga republikanec. Trump je že nakazal ta način, ko je pridobilo veliko predstavnikov manjšin na svojo stran.


Nope. Najbolj uspešni so (bili), ker se je konkurenca med velesilami konkretno porušila v dveh svetovnih vojnah, USA pa je izkoristila priliko in okupirala planet.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.

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stjean ::

Še georgijo je zgubu.

Pa izdajalc je čis isto k janša https://twitter.com/julianborger/status...

Fritz ::

Če ne bi sam pogledal, ne bi mogel verjeti:
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/stat...

Trumpova kampanja trdi, da je volitve ukradel komunistični denar po načrtu Huga Chaveza, nekdanjega predsednika Venezuele. :))

Hugo je umrl 2013, novinarske konference Trumpovih odvetnikov pa spominjajo bolj na igre v norišnici kot na predstavnike predsednika vojaško najmočnejše države na zemlji.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Utk ::

Bi lahko sem prilepil točen citat kaj je rekla Trumpova kampanja?

Fritz ::

The press conference will be remembered best for Rudy Giuliani, who in between trying to wipe up the apparent hair dye dripping down his face, promised that he had over 100 affidavits showing voter fraud, but alas, just couldn't show them to anyone. But the real star was attorney Sidney Powell, who has been at the vanguard of absolute election nonsense since election night.

On Thursday, Powell declared that she had found the real villains behind Trump's election defeat: billionaire Soros and deceased Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez. In Powell's telling, Chavez had been pulling the strings on American voting software this whole time.

"The Dominion Voting Systems, the Smartmatic technology software, and the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here as well, not just Dominion, were created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez," Powell declared.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/heres-how...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Utk ::

"The Dominion Voting Systems, the Smartmatic technology software, and the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here as well, not just Dominion, were created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez," Powell declared.


Se pravi to je res rekel, vse drugo je izmišljeno.
Kaj točno od tega zagotovo ni res? Ker zaenkrat kar ni res je samo to, da so obtožili Chaveza, da se je igral z ameriškimi volitvami.

Idiocracy se bo zgleda uresničil. Ampak ne bo samo Trump kriv za to.

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Fritz ::

To je rekla. Sydney Powell namreč. Imaš video v prvem twitter linku. V članku pa jasno piše, da se je na teh strojih opravil minoren del volitev.

Idiocracy je to, da imaš dve stranki, ki predstavljajo uber-bogataše in cioniste pa se to vsem zdi normalno. To kar delajo Trumpovi znotraj te idiokracije pa je popolnoma odprto laganje, sprenevedanje, licemerje in naravnost idiotske trditve.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Bwaze6 ::

Kdo imenuje skupino odvetnikov "Elite Strike Force?" Giuliani in ostali še vedno ponavljajo obtožbe, ki so bile na sodiščih že ovržene. Dodajajo nove, ampak večina obtožb itak nikoli ne bo šla na sodišča, saj zanje nimajo niti trohljice dokazov. No, glede na to, kako ekspresno pada vse, kar dejansko so vložili, jih nimajo nikjer.

"That press conference was the most dangerous 1hr 45 minutes of television in American history. And possibly the craziest. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you're lucky. " - Chris Krebs, ravnokar odpuščeni republikanski DHS election security official. Odpuščen, ker je pač prebral uradne rezultate analiz volilnih naprav, ki seveda ne kažejo nobenih nepravilnosti.

Pac-Man ::

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Nit.

https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/13...
No more happy talk about the "uniquely American transition of power." Trump presidency and this post-election period confirm that the US is *less* committed to democratic norms - and has *weaker* institutional safeguards for democracy - than peer wealthy democracies.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Tudi, video:

https://twitter.com/MehdiHasanShow/stat...

In 2016, "We were told that we need to reach out to understand" Trump voters, says @WajahatAli. "I have not heard... anybody say, 'Hey Trump voters, reach out to 80 million of your fellow Americans and please understand *their* frustrations and why they voted for Joe Biden.'"

"It's bad-faith actors who always demand civility but give cruelty," @WajahatAli says of conservative critics trying to cancel him. "I want them to have health care. I want them to have jobs... They need me to suffer to feel great again. And that's the difference."
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Ameriška vojska naj bi zasegla strežnike v Nemčiji. Bedarija sama po sebi, vseeno jo ponavljata kongresnik in trumpova odvetnica. Najbolj butasti telefončki ever, nit:

https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status...

Thread: The debunked claim that servers run by Dominion Voting Systems were seized in Germany is making the rounds again.
So I'm going to explain where this claim originated from and how it devolved into its current incarnation.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

to

https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/...
This is harassment pure and simple. This ‘inquiry’ by NYC democrats is 100% motivated by politics, publicity and rage. They know very well that there’s nothing here and that there was no tax benefit whatsoever. These politicians are simply ruthless.

in to

https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/13...
I chuckle each time I think about the fact that the NY authorities wouldn't know about the $747,622 payment to Ivanka that they're investigating if not for the nepotism that led her to file a financial disclosure report as a White House staffer. Now that's just funny.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Notnow ::

Vi se kr tolažte,mislim da je trump zmagu z tako razliko,da niso mogl potih zgulfat,blo treba ustavt stetje pa glasovnce printat,da so ljudje hodl po trikrat glasovat.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov...

Pa za vse ko lapate da zaprisezena izjava ni dokaz.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidav...

Velja kot dokaz in tut samo z takim dokazi se tudi dobivajo bitke na sodiscih..

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Pac-Man ::

Ma ja, zgoljufali so, da je Biden zmagal in zraven pozabili na kongres, senat, guvernerje ter lokalno oblast. Ta mandat se dela redistricting.

Redistricting in the United States @ Wikipedia

Kdo je butast?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status...

Ja, to so vse zelo dobra vprašanja. Še boljše vprašanje pa je: 'Za koga sploh delajo Republikanci?' Takoj zatem pa seveda: 'Za koga sploh delajo Demokrati?' Ker so Demokrati 90% +/- enaki Republikancem, le malce bolj polikani, bi lahko nekdo prišel do neugodnih ugotovitev, da Trump & Co. sploh niso izjema ali neko odstopanje temveč so različni le v tem, da niti zavajajo ne več ampak svoje mahinacije počnejo popolnoma odprto.

Za desni pol demokratov to ni nič posebnega, le spodobi se ne ovcam tako odkrito povedati kaj so. In najhuje pri tem, da eni to vidijo in si rečejo WTF, drugi pa to vidijo in vse požrejo, ker mislijo, da jim Trump, veliki beli bojevnik, ki bo rešil otročičke pred pobesnelimi pedofili iz visokih krogov, govori kako so tudi oni njegovi čudoviti vitezi, ki bodo v tem sodelovali. Le da Trump ni veliki beli bojevnik temveč zavaljeno prase, fizično in karakterno. Tisti, ki to sprejemajo pa bodisi imajo interes v tem ali pa so rednecki z AR-15 in veseli, da nekdo v Washingtonu končno govori idiotspeak.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Allied Special Operations Group je registrirala domeno 30.1.2020. Sploh ne zgleda, da gre za astroturfing z namenom.

https://asog.us/

https://who.is/whois/asog.us
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Notnow ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ma ja, zgoljufali so, da je Biden zmagal in zraven pozabili na kongres, senat, guvernerje ter lokalno oblast. Ta mandat se dela redistricting.
Kdo je butast?


Butasti so goljufivci,ko so pozabl povedat budalam,da nej se kej druga obkrozjo ne sam bidna ;)

Pac-Man ::

Igralec, nit:

https://twitter.com/EdwardNorton/status...
I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’ or that ‘chaos is what he loves’.
The core of it is that he knows he’s in deep, multi-dimensional legal jeopardy & this defines his every action.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Notnow ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Igralec, nit:

https://twitter.com/EdwardNorton/status...
I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’ or that ‘chaos is what he loves’.
The core of it is that he knows he’s in deep, multi-dimensional legal jeopardy & this defines his every action.


Ojoj ce pa en igralec to reče...je pa skor tak kot da bi moj sosed to reku...wau...wau...

Lol..a dominion software kej skriva?
Hmmm..zaka niso prsl?
https://mobile.twitter.com/valgaydos/st...

Tole tut zanimivo...
https://mobile.twitter.com/acastef53/st...

Bwaze6 ::

Tole pojasni vse:

Notnow ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ameriška vojska naj bi zasegla strežnike v Nemčiji. Bedarija sama po sebi, vseeno jo ponavljata kongresnik in trumpova odvetnica. Najbolj butasti telefončki ever, nit:

https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status...

Thread: The debunked claim that servers run by Dominion Voting Systems were seized in Germany is making the rounds again.
So I'm going to explain where this claim originated from and how it devolved into its current incarnation.



Je debunked al ne?
https://mobile.twitter.com/SaraThatcher...

zmaugy ::

Pogled na preostanek mandata Trumpa v povezavi s COVID19 in poziv, da se ga odstavi pred 20.1.2021, ker bo v tem času povzročil deset tisoče novih žrtev:

Biseri...

kow ::

So much losing. Zeh.

Pac-Man ::

Notnow je izjavil:

Je debunked al ne?
https://mobile.twitter.com/SaraThatcher...

Kaj ima ameriška vojska delat racije pri civilistih v Nemčiji?

Butasta vprašanja obstajajo, ya dumb.



To, video

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/stat...
Trump supporters in Georgia vow to destroy the Republican Party if Trump doesn't win

in to

https://twitter.com/ConsWahoo/status/13...
It was always going to end this way. He was a Republican of convenience. And so are his supporters.


Ker se v Georgiji bori za nadzor nad senatom bi bila lepa karma, da s jim trumpizem odbije direktno v glavo.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

DarwiN ::

Jaz se bojim za Georgio in senat. Entuziazem zna bit tokrat na strani Republikancev. Demokrati nikoli niso bili preveč navdušeni nad Bidenom, ampak predvsem proti Trumpu. Zato tudi toliko boljši rezultat na predsedniških volitvah napram parlamentarnim volitvam, kjer so izgubili sedeže.

Ampak zdaj je Trump poražen in hype pri demokratih je nekoliko potonil. Medtem pa so trumptardi podžgani do te mere, da samo še čakamo na prve smrtne žrtve. Tko da IMHO bosta tista dva stolčka iz Georgie pristala v GOP rokah. Nevertrumperji, ki so sicer Republikanci, bodo tokrat volili za republikanska kandidata, a ne.. Oni samo niso tolererirali Trumpa, a so še vedno republikanci.
Hope I'm wrong.
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!

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Pac-Man ::

Tako bi bilo v normalnem ciklu, tokrat imamo 2 wildcarda:

1) demokrati so ravno v Georgiji nabrali veliko novih volivcev, večino zahvaljujoč Stacey Abrams
2) republikanci so se popolnoma priključili na Trump Train, kaj bo zdaj brez lokomotive?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Notnow ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Notnow je izjavil:

Je debunked al ne?
https://mobile.twitter.com/SaraThatcher...

Kaj ima ameriška vojska delat racije pri civilistih v Nemčiji?

Butasta vprašanja obstajajo, ya dumb.


Nevem zakaj,in ti tut ne veš zakaj..
Gre se zato,al je bol kredibiln kr en freelancer (al ti tvoji igralci), al Sidney powell ?

Mogoče sploh ni fora v "SCYTYL"...
https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/...

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/#analysis
kr pejt mal nižje,boš vidu ka bi nej blo v frankfurtu...
Genij.

Notnow ::

DarwiN ::

Notnow, težko je sledit tem vašim "eksplozivnim dokazom" iz fake news sveta... Vemo pa, da so sodniki do danes z zgražanjem nemudoma sestrelili cirka 31 od 32-ih tožb, ki jih je vložila odvetniška ekipa Swamp administracije. Grem stavit, da ti tega dejstva niso predstavili tvoji fake viri, kaj? (prosim za tvoj odgovor na to vprašanje!)

Skratka, osebno me niti malo ne skrbijo ta tvoja "eksplozivna odkritja". Pravzaprav ne skrbijo nikogar pri zdravi pameti. Eno je biti pameten v fake news medijih, stopit pred sodnika je pa čist neka druga stvar.
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!

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zmaugy ::

" Donald Trump has left the world stage. Few will miss him"

" the combined unspoken message from the world's leaders is: don't let the door hit you on the way out."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/22/worl...
Biseri...

Notnow ::

DarwiN je izjavil:

Notnow, težko je sledit tem vašim "eksplozivnim dokazom" iz fake news sveta... Vemo pa, da so sodniki do danes z zgražanjem nemudoma sestrelili cirka 31 od 32-ih tožb, ki jih je vložila odvetniška ekipa Swamp administracije. Grem stavit, da ti tega dejstva niso predstavili tvoji fake viri, kaj? (prosim za tvoj odgovor na to vprašanje!)

Skratka, osebno me niti malo ne skrbijo ta tvoja "eksplozivna odkritja". Pravzaprav ne skrbijo nikogar pri zdravi pameti. Eno je biti pameten v fake news medijih, stopit pred sodnika je pa čist neka druga stvar.


sj jz bi rad vidu da biden zmaga,ker bi rad da ljudje sami vidjo kaka polomija bo to...ampak dobr..
o kakšnih 30 tožbah ti lapaš...trumpovi odvetniki so vložl 3! TRI! Tožbe...
tist ka pa ti bereš pa nima lih neke veze z temi..
Še enkrat...TRI TOŽBE!

bluefish ::

30 ne, a več kot le 3:

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-541...

Trump je sicer trenutno kujavček (pridružil se mu je očitno tudi cvet podpornikov iz te teme). Prehaja med spalnico, sobo brez kotov, TV sobo in golfanjem: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202...

Njegovi trdijo, da je vse v najlepšem redu in gre vse po planu. Kot pravi Colbert:

"Well, history famously holds happy endings for autocrats who lose and then retreat to their bunker."

Med tem Trumpovi podrepniki nadaljujejo z odličnim delom zdravljenja ekonomije /s: Trump administration overrules Jerome Powell and cuts off Fed emergency lending programs

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Badwolff ::

bluefish je izjavil:

30 ne, a več kot le 3:

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-541...


paywall!
Včeraj sem nekje bral, da so 1:22, ampak tudi tisto 1 naj bi izgubili.

w0mbat ::

ah men se ne da več to brat. Biden zmagal, trump naredil veliko dramo brezveze. To je vse. Te detajle ameriške se mi ne da več brat, k itak je to groza od države.

Notnow ::

bluefish je izjavil:

30 ne, a več kot le 3:

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-541...


ah dej no...kva to berete neki brezveze..

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/statu...

tile vaši časopisi lahko pišejo ka čejo...če ona sama pove kulk so jih vložl..
lahka cnn pa tile vaši fake newsi pišejo ka čejo...

DarwiN ::

Imaš na Wikiju opisane vse tožbe okrog volitev. Lahko vsako posebej raziščeš in se prepričaš. Vseh 30-40, in praktično vse so popušili (nazadnje je bilo 32-1), nekatere že pred začetkom volitev.
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!

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Mr.B ::

Kolikor pravijo, ga ni bilo niti na g20...raje je igral golf.
Voljeno telo ogledalo volilnega telesa.

stjean ::

Zgubu še Pennsylvanio k je tok tired of winning.

Bwaze6 ::

"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," said Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and another lawyer for Trump, Jenna Ellis, in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity."

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