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Turška policija: Saudijci so iz oporečnika naredili šiškebab
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gendale2018 ::
CIA: Princ naročil umor Kašogija. In kaj bomo sedaj?
pravilno bi bilo da savdska arabija dobi malo svobode
ja sam mali poštar, kurac mi je oštar
čuvajte se žene, bit ćete jebene
čuvajte se žene, bit ćete jebene
Pac-Man ::
NYT:
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Posle je le posel, dnarja za vojno pač ni, torej.. : US president says it 'could very well be' that the Saudi crown prince 'had knowledge' of the murder of Jamal Khashoggi
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
Obožujemo ameriško demokracijo....
By letting Saudi Arabia get away with the murder of US-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi, the President sent a message of startling clarity about how the United States will conduct its business in the world.
By letting Saudi Arabia get away with the murder of US-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi, the President sent a message of startling clarity about how the United States will conduct its business in the world.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
zmaugy ::
Zaradi umora novinarja so v senatu bipartisan zajebali Trumpa in prižgali rdečo luč za nadaljevanje sodelovanja ZDA s SA pri izvajanju genocida v Jemnu.
Growing some spine, do you Republicans?
Growing some spine, do you Republicans?
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Pac-Man ::
Zrno soli pa to. Pri Bellingcatu ima čez preiskavo o Skripalu.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
I understand Erdogan has obtained tools to blackmail both Trump and, more surprisingly, Putin. Watch out for him getting the most of it over the next few months...and yes the stuff he has on MBS is much worse than what has been disclosed...and there's video in addition to the audio.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
I understand Erdogan has obtained tools to blackmail both Trump and, more surprisingly, Putin. Watch out for him getting the most of it over the next few months...and yes the stuff he has on MBS is much worse than what has been disclosed...and there's video in addition to the audio.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Ni problema. Z iste niti.
+what does he have on Trump? Or Putin? Surely he'll just leverage Russia/US against one another for minor geopol gains?
-He only has proof that they knew of MBS personal role in the killing
+In advance?
-No. But right after and still proceeded to defend him
Zima prihaja.
+what does he have on Trump? Or Putin? Surely he'll just leverage Russia/US against one another for minor geopol gains?
-He only has proof that they knew of MBS personal role in the killing
+In advance?
-No. But right after and still proceeded to defend him
Zima prihaja.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Fritz ::
MBS druka zvišanje cen nafte. Trumpo je kao proti temu a bi mu zelo koristilo zvišanje cen do mere, ko postane nafta iz skrilavcev dobičkonosna. Rusom je zvišanje cen nafte vedno dobrodošlo.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
zmaugy ::
Podrobnosti:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/09/midd...
Seveda Erdoganu to odgovarja, saj hoče postati vodja vseh muslimanov na svetu (najprej sunitov), sam ni prav nič boljši - pravzaprav je še slabši glede na razmere, v katerih je živel, saj se Turčija pod njegovim vodstvom spreminja iz sekularne v versko državo. V Saudski Arabiji je trend ravno obraten, je pa res, da je štartna pozicija bistveno različna.
EU in svet morata dobro premisliti, da ne bosta na koncu nagradila Erdogana za njegovo početje, ki ima zgolj in samo sebične in za EU destruktivne cilje.
In na drugi strani si nihče ne sme dovoliti, da bi to barbarstvo SA spregledali.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/09/midd...
Seveda Erdoganu to odgovarja, saj hoče postati vodja vseh muslimanov na svetu (najprej sunitov), sam ni prav nič boljši - pravzaprav je še slabši glede na razmere, v katerih je živel, saj se Turčija pod njegovim vodstvom spreminja iz sekularne v versko državo. V Saudski Arabiji je trend ravno obraten, je pa res, da je štartna pozicija bistveno različna.
EU in svet morata dobro premisliti, da ne bosta na koncu nagradila Erdogana za njegovo početje, ki ima zgolj in samo sebične in za EU destruktivne cilje.
In na drugi strani si nihče ne sme dovoliti, da bi to barbarstvo SA spregledali.
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Pac-Man ::
off
To
https://blindgossip.com/allow-me-to-int...
in to
https://hollywoodlife.com/2018/12/14/sc...
Hollyweird.
To
https://blindgossip.com/allow-me-to-int...
in to
https://hollywoodlife.com/2018/12/14/sc...
Hollyweird.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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ZaphodBB ::
MBS druka zvišanje cen nafte. Trumpo je kao proti temu a bi mu zelo koristilo zvišanje cen do mere, ko postane nafta iz skrilavcev dobičkonosna. Rusom je zvišanje cen nafte vedno dobrodošlo.
Nafta iz skrilavcev je bolj dobičkonosna od savdske. Ampak ker ste levičarji eni reakcionarji ste še kar pri govoricah izpred 15 let.
"Naši dedje so se borili za to, da lahko odločamo
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
Poldi112 ::
In kako kaj vpliva na okolje?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
ZaphodBB ::
In kako kaj vpliva na okolje?
Čistejša je. Pa še za rafiniranje je cenejša in čistejša, kar je en od bistvenih razlogov zakaj je nje proizvodnja cenejša. Aja pa še sama nafta je čistejša, ker vsebuje manj nečistoč.
"Naši dedje so se borili za to, da lahko odločamo
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
o lastni usodi - ne o usodi drugih ljudi." -jype
Fritz ::
Seveda, medtem svizec zavija čokolado 
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Vanich ::
Erdogan sedaj zelo premeteno izsiljuje Trumpa, naj mu izroči Gulena, če ne, bo objavil še veliko več dokazov proti princu Muhamedu in SA v primeru umora Kašogija.
USA je pa seveda SA vredna veliko več, kot nekakšen Gulen, od katerega nimajo skoraj nič. Srečno pot domov v Turčijo, Gulen!
USA je pa seveda SA vredna veliko več, kot nekakšen Gulen, od katerega nimajo skoraj nič. Srečno pot domov v Turčijo, Gulen!
Mr.B ::
Erdogan sedaj zelo premeteno izsiljuje Trumpa, naj mu izroči Gulena, če ne, bo objavil še veliko več dokazov proti princu Muhamedu in SA v primeru umora Kašogija.
USA je pa seveda SA vredna veliko več, kot nekakšen Gulen, od katerega nimajo skoraj nič. Srečno pot domov v Turčijo, Gulen!
?
Iseljuje s čem ? Trumpi ima dokument s strani njegovih agencij, da je "skoraj verjetno" sam Muhamedu izdal ukaz za umor. Torej veš kdo je Gulena ?
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Vanich ::
Erdogan sedaj zelo premeteno izsiljuje Trumpa, naj mu izroči Gulena, če ne, bo objavil še veliko več dokazov proti princu Muhamedu in SA v primeru umora Kašogija.
USA je pa seveda SA vredna veliko več, kot nekakšen Gulen, od katerega nimajo skoraj nič. Srečno pot domov v Turčijo, Gulen!
?
Iseljuje s čem ? Trumpi ima dokument s strani njegovih agencij, da je "skoraj verjetno" sam Muhamedu izdal ukaz za umor. Torej veš kdo je Gulena ?
Trump tega ne bo objavil, Erdogan pa bo - če ne dobi Gulena.
Pac-Man ::
Iseljuje s čem ? Trumpi ima dokument s strani njegovih agencij, da je "skoraj verjetno" sam Muhamedu izdal ukaz za umor. Torej veš kdo je Gulena ?
O čem ti to?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Erdogan sedaj zelo premeteno izsiljuje Trumpa, naj mu izroči Gulena, če ne, bo objavil še veliko več dokazov proti princu Muhamedu in SA v primeru umora Kašogija.
USA je pa seveda SA vredna veliko več, kot nekakšen Gulen, od katerega nimajo skoraj nič. Srečno pot domov v Turčijo, Gulen!
?
Iseljuje s čem ? Trumpi ima dokument s strani njegovih agencij, da je "skoraj verjetno" sam Muhamedu izdal ukaz za umor. Torej veš kdo je Gulena ?
Trump tega ne bo objavil, Erdogan pa bo - če ne dobi Gulena.
Verjetno je to dovolj kredibilni vir, da admini ne bodo brisali, .... PS sej bi dal let me google that for you...
Trump on Thursday rebuffed the C.I.A. over its conclusion that the Saudi crown prince was responsible for the killing of Jamal Khashoggi
Ali iz drugega linka... TRUMP'S NOT GONNA LET A LITTLE MURDER GET IN THE WAY OF HIS $110 BILLION ARMS DEAL : https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/10...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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Pac-Man ::
To
Trumpi ima dokument s strani njegovih agencij, da je "skoraj verjetno" sam Muhamedu izdal ukaz za umor.ni to
The C.I.A. has concluded that the crown prince ordered Mr. Khashoggi’s killing, American officials have said. But Mr. Trump insisted that Prince Mohammed “hates it more than I do” that the assassination took place, and disputed that the C.I.A. had made a conclusion that the prince was to blame, saying the agency’s leaders “have feelings, certain ways.”
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Vanich ::
Primer Gulena bo spet in znova potrdil znan kissingerjev citat , da je "biti sovražnik Amerike nevarno, biti prijatelj je pa usodno." (fatal)
Pac-Man ::
Ne najdem vira, tako da gre najverjetneje za apokrif. Dvomim, da bi kaj takega izrekel.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Vanich ::
Ne najdem vira, tako da gre najverjetneje za apokrif. Dvomim, da bi kaj takega izrekel.
Možno. Je pa vseeno res, kar bo kmalu spoznal tudi Gulen.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Mr.B ::
To
Trumpi ima dokument s strani njegovih agencij, da je "skoraj verjetno" sam Muhamedu izdal ukaz za umor.ni to
The C.I.A. has concluded that the crown prince ordered Mr. Khashoggi’s killing, American officials have said. But Mr. Trump insisted that Prince Mohammed “hates it more than I do” that the assassination took place, and disputed that the C.I.A. had made a conclusion that the prince was to blame, saying the agency’s leaders “have feelings, certain ways.”
A simantika...
Ima dokument - Pripravljeno poročilo CIA, kdo je naročil umor
Ima dokument - kjer je psino odobreni diktator Amerike odobril in podpisal umor. E tega ne vm in ne morem trdite.
Ergo če Predsednik smatra da je CIA poročilu, nastojeno proti strategiji Amerike, potem smo o tem že podebatirali v temi vojana v Jemnu, in kaj je en javni umor proti tistim mijardam posla...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
To
še vedno ni to
Ergo če Predsednik smatra da je CIA poročilu, nastojeno proti strategiji Amerike, potem smo o tem že podebatirali v temi vojana v Jemnu, in kaj je en javni umor proti tistim mijardam posla...
še vedno ni to
Iseljuje s čem ? Trumpi ima dokument s strani njegovih agencij, da je "skoraj verjetno" sam Muhamedu izdal ukaz za umor.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
To
Ergo če Predsednik smatra da je CIA poročilu, nastojeno proti strategiji Amerike, potem smo o tem že podebatirali v temi vojana v Jemnu, in kaj je en javni umor proti tistim mijardam posla...
še vedno ni to
Iseljuje s čem ? Trumpi ima dokument s strani njegovih agencij, da je "skoraj verjetno" sam Muhamedu izdal ukaz za umor.
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Pepca*Kardelj :: danes, 09:51:25citiraj
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
Kako se reče, on je naš demokratični diktator
WASHINGTON -- Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia authorized a secret campaign to silence dissenters -- which included the surveillance, kidnapping, detention and torture of Saudi citizens -- over a year before the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, according to American officials who have read classified intelligence reports about the campaign.
WASHINGTON -- Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia authorized a secret campaign to silence dissenters -- which included the surveillance, kidnapping, detention and torture of Saudi citizens -- over a year before the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, according to American officials who have read classified intelligence reports about the campaign.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Vazelin ::
Kao neko zgražanje.
Kolk jih je CIA razrezala, ali KGB ...
Kolk jih je CIA razrezala, ali KGB ...
I got 99 problems but 4 usd XTZ ain't one...
kuglvinkl ::
Kao neko zgražanje.
Kolk jih je CIA razrezala, ali KGB ...
To popolnoma nic ne spremeni. Pa temu se rece what-about-thism.
Your focus determines your reallity
zmaugy ::
Zakaj je Turčija reagirala tako kot je? Ker hoče izpodrinit SA in spet postati center islamskega sveta. Erdogan je videl priložnost, na eni strani od realnosti odmaknjena ultra bogata SA elita in SA, ki ne počne ničesar realnega razen črpanja dreka iz tal in na drugi strani realna država Turčija, ki ima normalno prebivalstvo in ekonomijo.
Nov dokaz megalomanskih ambicij Erdogana je njegovo žuganje Avstraliji zaradi novozelandskeg poboja:
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/azija-z-ocea...
Nov dokaz megalomanskih ambicij Erdogana je njegovo žuganje Avstraliji zaradi novozelandskeg poboja:
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/azija-z-ocea...
Mr.B ::
Sreca da je nsas terorist, na strani smrekiju podobnim...
Khashoggi murder
happened under my watch
, MBS tells PBS
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Kot da ga ni naročil. Čisti PR spin.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saud...
“It happened under my watch. I get all the responsibility, because it happened under my watch,” he told PBS’ Martin Smith, according to a preview of a documentary, “The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,” set to air on Oct. 1, ahead of the one-year anniversary of Khashoggi’s death.
...
Asked how the killing could happen without him knowing about it, Smith quotes Prince Mohammed as saying: “We have 20 million people. We have 3 million government employees.”
Smith asked whether the killers could have taken private government jets, to which the crown prince responded: “I have officials, ministers to follow things, and they’re responsible. They have the authority to do that.” Smith describes the December exchange, which apparently took place off camera, in the preview of the documentary.
Assassination of Jamal Khashoggi @ Wikipedia
The Washington Post reported on 10 October 2018 that U.S. intelligence intercepted communications of Saudi officials discussing a plan ordered by the Crown Prince Bin Salman, to capture Khashoggi from his home in Virginia.[49][50] The intercepted communications were regarded as significant because Khashoggi had bought a home in McLean, Virginia,[51] where he lived after fleeing the KSA. Khashoggi had obtained an O visa – also known as the "genius" visa, that offers individuals of "extraordinary ability and achievement" in the sciences, arts, education, and other fields and are recognized internationally – he had applied for permanent residency status, and three of his children were US citizens.[52][53] As a legal resident of the United States Khashoggi was entitled to protection. Under a directive adopted in 2015, the US intelligence community has a "duty to warn" people – including those who are not US citizens – who are at risk of being kidnapped or killed. This directive was a central aspect of the conversation about the US's response to Khashoggi's disappearance.
Khashoggi had applied for U.S. citizenship[54] and was offered and he accepted a position as a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars (or Wilson Center), located in Washington, D.C.[55]
According to the National Security Agency (NSA) officials, the White House was warned of this threat through official intelligence channels.[56] The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) of Dan Coats declined to comment on why Khashoggi was not warned.[53] 55 members of Congress demanded in a letter clarity from DNI Dan Coats on what the intelligence community knew about the risk Khashoggi faced before his disappearance and whether American officials attempted to notify him that his life was in danger. In the letter, they sought insight into everything the NSA knows about phone calls and emails from Saudi officials on the Khashoggi case.[57]
The Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University filed a lawsuit against five US intelligence services "seeking immediate release of records concerning U.S. intelligence agencies' compliance or non-compliance with their 'duty to warn' reporter Jamal Khashoggi of threats to his life or liberty". The Committee to Protect Journalists joined the legal effort.[58][59]
Dodatno poglavje za impeachment.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saud...
“It happened under my watch. I get all the responsibility, because it happened under my watch,” he told PBS’ Martin Smith, according to a preview of a documentary, “The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,” set to air on Oct. 1, ahead of the one-year anniversary of Khashoggi’s death.
...
Asked how the killing could happen without him knowing about it, Smith quotes Prince Mohammed as saying: “We have 20 million people. We have 3 million government employees.”
Smith asked whether the killers could have taken private government jets, to which the crown prince responded: “I have officials, ministers to follow things, and they’re responsible. They have the authority to do that.” Smith describes the December exchange, which apparently took place off camera, in the preview of the documentary.
Assassination of Jamal Khashoggi @ Wikipedia
The Washington Post reported on 10 October 2018 that U.S. intelligence intercepted communications of Saudi officials discussing a plan ordered by the Crown Prince Bin Salman, to capture Khashoggi from his home in Virginia.[49][50] The intercepted communications were regarded as significant because Khashoggi had bought a home in McLean, Virginia,[51] where he lived after fleeing the KSA. Khashoggi had obtained an O visa – also known as the "genius" visa, that offers individuals of "extraordinary ability and achievement" in the sciences, arts, education, and other fields and are recognized internationally – he had applied for permanent residency status, and three of his children were US citizens.[52][53] As a legal resident of the United States Khashoggi was entitled to protection. Under a directive adopted in 2015, the US intelligence community has a "duty to warn" people – including those who are not US citizens – who are at risk of being kidnapped or killed. This directive was a central aspect of the conversation about the US's response to Khashoggi's disappearance.
Khashoggi had applied for U.S. citizenship[54] and was offered and he accepted a position as a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars (or Wilson Center), located in Washington, D.C.[55]
According to the National Security Agency (NSA) officials, the White House was warned of this threat through official intelligence channels.[56] The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) of Dan Coats declined to comment on why Khashoggi was not warned.[53] 55 members of Congress demanded in a letter clarity from DNI Dan Coats on what the intelligence community knew about the risk Khashoggi faced before his disappearance and whether American officials attempted to notify him that his life was in danger. In the letter, they sought insight into everything the NSA knows about phone calls and emails from Saudi officials on the Khashoggi case.[57]
The Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University filed a lawsuit against five US intelligence services "seeking immediate release of records concerning U.S. intelligence agencies' compliance or non-compliance with their 'duty to warn' reporter Jamal Khashoggi of threats to his life or liberty". The Committee to Protect Journalists joined the legal effort.[58][59]
Dodatno poglavje za impeachment.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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- spremenilo: Pac-Man ()
Mr.B ::
Kot da ga ni naročil. Čisti PR spin.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saud...
“It happened under my watch. I get all the responsibility, because it happened under my watch,” he told PBS’ Martin Smith, according to a preview of a documentary, “The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,” set to air on Oct. 1, ahead of the one-year anniversary of Khashoggi’s death.
...
Asked how the killing could happen without him knowing about it, Smith quotes Prince Mohammed as saying: “We have 20 million people. We have 3 million government employees.”
Smith asked whether the killers could have taken private government jets, to which the crown prince responded: “I have officials, ministers to follow things, and they’re responsible. They have the authority to do that.” Smith describes the December exchange, which apparently took place off camera, in the preview of the documentary.
Assassination of Jamal Khashoggi @ Wikipedia
The Washington Post reported on 10 October 2018 that U.S. intelligence intercepted communications of Saudi officials discussing a plan ordered by the Crown Prince Bin Salman, to capture Khashoggi from his home in Virginia.[49][50] The intercepted communications were regarded as significant because Khashoggi had bought a home in McLean, Virginia,[51] where he lived after fleeing the KSA. Khashoggi had obtained an O visa – also known as the "genius" visa, that offers individuals of "extraordinary ability and achievement" in the sciences, arts, education, and other fields and are recognized internationally – he had applied for permanent residency status, and three of his children were US citizens.[52][53] As a legal resident of the United States Khashoggi was entitled to protection. Under a directive adopted in 2015, the US intelligence community has a "duty to warn" people – including those who are not US citizens – who are at risk of being kidnapped or killed. This directive was a central aspect of the conversation about the US's response to Khashoggi's disappearance.
Khashoggi had applied for U.S. citizenship[54] and was offered and he accepted a position as a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars (or Wilson Center), located in Washington, D.C.[55]
According to the National Security Agency (NSA) officials, the White House was warned of this threat through official intelligence channels.[56] The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) of Dan Coats declined to comment on why Khashoggi was not warned.[53] 55 members of Congress demanded in a letter clarity from DNI Dan Coats on what the intelligence community knew about the risk Khashoggi faced before his disappearance and whether American officials attempted to notify him that his life was in danger. In the letter, they sought insight into everything the NSA knows about phone calls and emails from Saudi officials on the Khashoggi case.[57]
The Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University filed a lawsuit against five US intelligence services "seeking immediate release of records concerning U.S. intelligence agencies' compliance or non-compliance with their 'duty to warn' reporter Jamal Khashoggi of threats to his life or liberty". The Committee to Protect Journalists joined the legal effort.[58][59]
Dodatno poglavje za impeachment.
A ok.
Če Američani naročijo target killing, pač je samo terorist. V redu sej vemo da je potrebno državo, kjer intelektualce režejo pač zagovarjati.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
S katerim "target killing-om" ZDA bi primerjal kašogijevo kanalizaciranje?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
S katerim "target killing-om" ZDA bi primerjal kašogijevo kanalizaciranje?
Ok, se ce kje kaka bomba prileti, je pac, sej je to ukazal obsma, jaz res vsega ne morem nadzorovati..
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Fritz ::
S katerim "target killing-om" ZDA bi primerjal kašogijevo kanalizaciranje?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na...
Za žrtev je končen rezultat enak. Je pa to, da so Saudijci zlorabili diplomatsko predstavništvo še toliko huje. Še bolj zanimivo pa je dejstvo, da bi naj v primeru Hašokdžija šlo za sodelavca ameriških tajnih služb, ki je že zdavnaj predstavljal ameriške interese v Savdovi Arabiji in prijateljeval z Osamo bin Ladnom in ostalimi mudžahidi, ki so se borili za 'našo stvar'. Ali so za Hašokdžijevim delovanjem proti MBS stale z MBS nezadovoljne ZDA ostane še videti.
V vsakem primeru so se Savdijci ponovno pokazali kot popolni nesposobneži.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Mr.B ::
Dejstvo je,
da je trenutna oblast v SA na nivoju glavorezcev.
Američani vsaj direkt ne rečejo vam bomo v kanadi naredili drugi 9/11. Glede na to da so uspeli za to okriviti Iran, je itak se bolj ironično.
da je trenutna oblast v SA na nivoju glavorezcev.
Američani vsaj direkt ne rečejo vam bomo v kanadi naredili drugi 9/11. Glede na to da so uspeli za to okriviti Iran, je itak se bolj ironično.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
T-h-o-r ::
Dejstvo je,
da je trenutna oblast v SA na nivoju glavorezcev.
Američani vsaj direkt ne rečejo vam bomo v kanadi naredili drugi 9/11. Glede na to da so uspeli za to okriviti Iran, je itak se bolj ironično.
Kako si drzneš tako pisati o naših tesnih zaveznikih, predsedujoči odboru za človekove pravice in demokratični Saudovci
Why have a civilization anymore
if we no longer are interested in being civilized?
if we no longer are interested in being civilized?
Mr.B ::
Dejstvo je,
da je trenutna oblast v SA na nivoju glavorezcev.
Američani vsaj direkt ne rečejo vam bomo v kanadi naredili drugi 9/11. Glede na to da so uspeli za to okriviti Iran, je itak se bolj ironično.
Kako si drzneš tako pisati o naših tesnih zaveznikih, predsedujoči odboru za človekove pravice in demokratični Saudovci
Nekako tako kot so ölvekve pravie v Izraelu drugotnega pomena. Skrbim me le kam bomo uvrstili indijo.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Novo - Saudijci so bojda shekali Bezosov telefon s pomočjo izraelskega exploita v WhatsApp in to od maja 2018 do februarja 2019.
https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi/sta...
https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi/sta...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Vazelin ::
Izgleda princ dela čistko v Savdski Arabiji.
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/bliznji-vzho...
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/bliznji-vzho...
I got 99 problems but 4 usd XTZ ain't one...
Pac-Man ::
Z oskarjem nagrajeni režiser je posnel dokumentarec o primeru.
Ampak se je zataknilo pri distribuciji, tudi Netflix, ki je dobil oskarja z njegovim prejšnjim filmom, ni bil zainteresiran.
An Oscar Winner Made a Khashoggi Documentary. Streaming Services Didn’t Want It.
Ampak se je zataknilo pri distribuciji, tudi Netflix, ki je dobil oskarja z njegovim prejšnjim filmom, ni bil zainteresiran.
An Oscar Winner Made a Khashoggi Documentary. Streaming Services Didn’t Want It.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mailer ::
Z predvajanjem dokumentarca zaradi tega nebi hodili v zelje orožarski industriji. Spremenilo se nebi nič, ker vse potrjuje kongres.
Asus B560-I, Intel 11500, Corsair 16GB 3200MHz
c3p0 ::
Upam, da najde distributerja, bi si ga z veseljem ogledal. Razen če je vzrok v slabi kvaliteti dokumentarca, a glede na to, da je zadaj oskarjevec, dvomim.
Fritz ::
Jah, vprašanje je, če bi kdaj zvedeli za ta umor CIA asseta Khasoggija, če se pred tem ne bi spičili Vahabiti (Savdova Arabija) in Muslimanska bratovščina (Turčija).
Je pa dokumentarec zagotovo lep vpogled v to, kdo so 'naši' zavezniki.
Je pa dokumentarec zagotovo lep vpogled v to, kdo so 'naši' zavezniki.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
V ZDA so objavili CIA analizo, da za umorom stoji MBS (doh), ki jo je prejšnja administracija zaprla v bunker.
Komentar kongresnika, ki je bil pod Obamo v Svetu za nacionalno varnost:
Andy Kim (politician) @ Wikipedia
https://twitter.com/AndyKimNJ/status/13...
I just finished reading the declassified memo on killing of #Khashoggi. I’ve read thousands of intel reports in my career in national security, but this one stands out. Here’s why we need to take this seriously and why we need to do more to hold Crown Prince accountable.
...
WHAT KIND OF KING MIGHT HE BE: This is how a 35 year old in line to be King acts. It presages what we would potentially expect for decades to come. If we accept this behavior now, what does that mean for the next half century?
...
When we make exceptions for our allies in situations like this, we project to the rest of the world that our values only go as far as our relationships. We show countries like Russia and China that we may have convictions, but consequences are never guaranteed.
The world is facing a critical moment of monumental change. We’ve seen the rise of strongmen and the fall of basic freedoms. MBS targeting Khashoggi, Putin targeting Navalny, Duterte targeting thousands of his own citizens are all abhorrent acts.
Saudijci so poskusili omejiti širjenje:
https://twitter.com/marcowenjones/statu...
[Another thread on Saudi bots] 1/ On the day of the release of the CIA report onto #JamalKhashoggi 's killing. A number of hashtags seemingly designed to dilute criticism of MBS were trended, including the mispelled 'khasxoggi' and 3aaashogggi (عاشخجي), These trends were created
Komentar kongresnika, ki je bil pod Obamo v Svetu za nacionalno varnost:
Andy Kim (politician) @ Wikipedia
https://twitter.com/AndyKimNJ/status/13...
I just finished reading the declassified memo on killing of #Khashoggi. I’ve read thousands of intel reports in my career in national security, but this one stands out. Here’s why we need to take this seriously and why we need to do more to hold Crown Prince accountable.
...
WHAT KIND OF KING MIGHT HE BE: This is how a 35 year old in line to be King acts. It presages what we would potentially expect for decades to come. If we accept this behavior now, what does that mean for the next half century?
...
When we make exceptions for our allies in situations like this, we project to the rest of the world that our values only go as far as our relationships. We show countries like Russia and China that we may have convictions, but consequences are never guaranteed.
The world is facing a critical moment of monumental change. We’ve seen the rise of strongmen and the fall of basic freedoms. MBS targeting Khashoggi, Putin targeting Navalny, Duterte targeting thousands of his own citizens are all abhorrent acts.
Saudijci so poskusili omejiti širjenje:
https://twitter.com/marcowenjones/statu...
[Another thread on Saudi bots] 1/ On the day of the release of the CIA report onto #JamalKhashoggi 's killing. A number of hashtags seemingly designed to dilute criticism of MBS were trended, including the mispelled 'khasxoggi' and 3aaashogggi (عاشخجي), These trends were created
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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