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Windows zamrzne med stress testom s Prime95
gantar8 ::
Pozdravljeni vsi skupaj, imam problem in sem poskušal dobiti pomoč že kar na parih angleških Hardware forumih a vendar brez uspeha. Zato sem se odločil da povprašam tukaj za pomoč če mogoče kdo ve kaj bi bila napaka, post je v angleščini, zato ker je pa dolg in sklepam da vsi razumete angleško ga nisem prevedel. Torej:
"Like my title says I came here because I am having trouble with my PC freeze while doing a stress test on the CPU with Prime95, but I will try to be short and tell all necessary information.
So I bought a new CPU and GPU, put it into my Desktop PC and tried to run some stress tests, after a while I got into trouble while stress testing my CPU, it always randomly freezes, another very important information is that always when I ran the test, Prime95 got a false result from two(always random two) cores and disabled them after 2~3 min into the test. So here is everything I could found out:
- Is the freeze because of the overheating?
Could not be, I have water cooling system and while preforming the test my CPUs maximum heat was from 62~64 degree before freeze, I don't think that's the case.
- Why does it disable two of your cores?
I googled a bit the error Prime95 gives me and what I found out is that its two possibility's, 1st) those two cores are destroyed, but that's not my case because if they would be it would be always the same cores, but after several tests it were always different cores that were disabled. 2nd) The core returns a failed calculation back and Prime95 sees that error and says the core is bad, why? people with similar problems say its because the Core does not have enough voltage to calculate, for my specific processor the normal core voltage is around 1,6~1.8 (if I googled correctly). But from the monitoring tools and the maximum what I can put in BIOS, it is 1.4, which could be why the failed calculation comes trough. The solution for this problem was kinda not clear, it could be because of the motherboard being too old or PSU not strong enough. So I don't know.
- What did I try to fix?
1)In my BIOS give more voltage to the processor but I cant. It seems like it already has the maximum
2)For Temporary Fix I Disabled two of my cores in BIOS and it works normally.
- Did you try to run the stress test with 2 less cores?
Yes and the Prime95 came trough the whole stress test without problem with maximum of 59 degrees. For now I am using this fix to do all my stuff on my pc but this is only temporary. So I seek help.
So what I kinda came up with is that it might be the motherboard being to old or the PSU working really at the edge and when stress testing its just too much for him. But I am not sure, so pleas if anyone can help me that would be amazing :)
Here is my PC:
Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD FX-9590 4700 Mhz (8 cores)
Vishera 32nm Technology
RAM
16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. M5A97 R2.0 (Socket 942)
Graphics
VG248 (1920x1080@144Hz)
2070W (1600x900@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (Gigabyte)
Storage
1863GB Western Digital WDC WD20EZRZ-00Z5HB0 ATA Device (SATA)
465GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB ATA Device (SSD)
Optical Drives
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H653L ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
PSU-Power
700W"
Hvala vsem ki poskušate pomagati :)
"Like my title says I came here because I am having trouble with my PC freeze while doing a stress test on the CPU with Prime95, but I will try to be short and tell all necessary information.
So I bought a new CPU and GPU, put it into my Desktop PC and tried to run some stress tests, after a while I got into trouble while stress testing my CPU, it always randomly freezes, another very important information is that always when I ran the test, Prime95 got a false result from two(always random two) cores and disabled them after 2~3 min into the test. So here is everything I could found out:
- Is the freeze because of the overheating?
Could not be, I have water cooling system and while preforming the test my CPUs maximum heat was from 62~64 degree before freeze, I don't think that's the case.
- Why does it disable two of your cores?
I googled a bit the error Prime95 gives me and what I found out is that its two possibility's, 1st) those two cores are destroyed, but that's not my case because if they would be it would be always the same cores, but after several tests it were always different cores that were disabled. 2nd) The core returns a failed calculation back and Prime95 sees that error and says the core is bad, why? people with similar problems say its because the Core does not have enough voltage to calculate, for my specific processor the normal core voltage is around 1,6~1.8 (if I googled correctly). But from the monitoring tools and the maximum what I can put in BIOS, it is 1.4, which could be why the failed calculation comes trough. The solution for this problem was kinda not clear, it could be because of the motherboard being too old or PSU not strong enough. So I don't know.
- What did I try to fix?
1)In my BIOS give more voltage to the processor but I cant. It seems like it already has the maximum
2)For Temporary Fix I Disabled two of my cores in BIOS and it works normally.
- Did you try to run the stress test with 2 less cores?
Yes and the Prime95 came trough the whole stress test without problem with maximum of 59 degrees. For now I am using this fix to do all my stuff on my pc but this is only temporary. So I seek help.
So what I kinda came up with is that it might be the motherboard being to old or the PSU working really at the edge and when stress testing its just too much for him. But I am not sure, so pleas if anyone can help me that would be amazing :)
Here is my PC:
Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD FX-9590 4700 Mhz (8 cores)
Vishera 32nm Technology
RAM
16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. M5A97 R2.0 (Socket 942)
Graphics
VG248 (1920x1080@144Hz)
2070W (1600x900@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (Gigabyte)
Storage
1863GB Western Digital WDC WD20EZRZ-00Z5HB0 ATA Device (SATA)
465GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB ATA Device (SSD)
Optical Drives
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H653L ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
PSU-Power
700W"
Hvala vsem ki poskušate pomagati :)
- spremenil: gantar8 ()
737 ::
V mojem primeru je bilo ozlo grlo pri tej plošči njena tokovna zmogljivost. Procesor se rad navija, ampak pri obremenitvi več kot štirih jeder naenkrat zadeva zmrzne. Nižaj množilnik, dokler ne bo računalnik stabilen pri testu, potem ga pa znižaj še za pol stopnje.
gantar8 ::
V mojem primeru je bilo ozlo grlo pri tej plošči njena tokovna zmogljivost. Procesor se rad navija, ampak pri obremenitvi več kot štirih jeder naenkrat zadeva zmrzne. Nižaj množilnik, dokler ne bo računalnik stabilen pri testu, potem ga pa znižaj še za pol stopnje.
Kakor sem že omenil, veliko ne morem spreminjati moč pretoka voltaže jeder. Žal hitrosti jeder pa tudi ne morem toliko specifično saj mi BIOS ponuja le polovično moč sedanjega stanja.
Sedaj ne vem ali misliš podobno kot jaz, če ne bi te prosil za bolj podrobne napotke.
gddr85 ::
fx9 ima stock cca 1.53v, probaj spustit cpu freq. pa stestiraj
kater 700w psu je to?
sicer pa plata ni glih narjena za fx9, sploh 4+2 faze za tole je prešvoh, boš orej vrmje skuru na plati :D
kater 700w psu je to?
sicer pa plata ni glih narjena za fx9, sploh 4+2 faze za tole je prešvoh, boš orej vrmje skuru na plati :D
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: gddr85 ()
737 ::
Dobro se razglej po BIOS-u, ker je precej zapleten. Nekaj pomembnih nastavitev sem našel šele po parih mesecih. Da se nastavljati množilnik in voltaža, to so osnovne nastavitve. Problem nastane pri delovanju vseh jeder naenkrat, ker DC-DC konverter za Vcore ni dovolj TOKOVNO zmogljiv, ne napetostno. Jedra dušilk pridejo do magnetnega zasičenja in izhodna napetost pade, pri čemer trenutna nastavitev napetosti Vcore ne igra vloge. Tok je reda 100 A. Rešitev je druga plošča z zmogljivejšim konverterjem, ali omejtev porabe toka procesorja.
AC_DC ::
AMD FX-9590 ima tdp 220W, tvoja plata podpira cpu do max (vključno) 125 W.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/proce...
FX 9590* 4.7/5.0 GHz 8MB 8MB socket AM3+ 220W 32nm SOI
http://products.amd.com/en-us/search/CP...
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A97...
Za tak tdp mora imeti plata vsaj 10/12 power faz, tako čez palec ocenjeno.
Evo 3
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/CROSS...
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/990FX%20Ex...
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/990FX%20Ex...
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A99...
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABER...
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/asus-o...
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/proce...
FX 9590* 4.7/5.0 GHz 8MB 8MB socket AM3+ 220W 32nm SOI
http://products.amd.com/en-us/search/CP...
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A97...
Za tak tdp mora imeti plata vsaj 10/12 power faz, tako čez palec ocenjeno.
Evo 3
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/CROSS...
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/990FX%20Ex...
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/990FX%20Ex...
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A99...
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABER...
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/asus-o...
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: AC_DC ()
gantar8 ::
AMD FX-9590 ima tdp 220W, tvoja plata podpira cpu do max (vključno) 125 W.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/proce...
FX 9590* 4.7/5.0 GHz 8MB 8MB socket AM3+ 220W 32nm SOI
http://products.amd.com/en-us/search/CP...
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A97...
Za tak tdp mora imeti plata vsaj 10/12 power faz, tako čez palec ocenjeno.
Hvala VSEM, za odgovore, zakaj nisem prej prišel semkaj!?
Sepravi na kratko, nova matična plošča? Ali bi mi lahko priporočali katerokoli?
PS: Moj napajalnik: LC POWER LC8700
AC_DC ::
Sem updejtal moj predzadnji post - modeli primernih plat.
Sestavo si iz prvega posta delal sam ? Don't do it again.
Sestavo si iz prvega posta delal sam ? Don't do it again.
gddr85 ::
katerakoli z vsaj 8 fazami bo ok, pa magar vzameš 990 čip
psu je pa pač bolj srednja roba
oz. jst bi enostavno downclockal in undervoltal fx9 in bo ok
psu je pa pač bolj srednja roba
oz. jst bi enostavno downclockal in undervoltal fx9 in bo ok
gantar8 ::
Hvala vsem skuapaj še enkrat.
Drugače ja, moja napaka.
nadgradnja starega sistema ni tako zlahka kot sem mislil :)
Drugače ja, moja napaka.
nadgradnja starega sistema ni tako zlahka kot sem mislil :)
737 ::
Točno, nova plošča. Z zmogljivejšo ploščo bi tudi moj FX-8350 tiktakal hitreje, a nimam potrebe, ki bi bila težka 200 eur. Tvojo ploščo se da nahecati za 150 W, več pa ne. Napajalnika tudi nimaš bogve kaj. Zna zaštrajkati pri hkratni obremenitvi grafične in procesorja.
hojnikb ::
Ne hecaj se z novo ploščo, odvij in undervoltaj obstoječ proc pa furaj, dokkler ne odpove.
Kakih 3.5Ghz@1.3V probaj. Če ni stabilno dviguj voltažo oz nižaj frekvenco. Pa bo.
Kakih 3.5Ghz@1.3V probaj. Če ni stabilno dviguj voltažo oz nižaj frekvenco. Pa bo.
#brezpodpisa
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: hojnikb ()
Nagi Bator ::
Zamenjaj procesor za nekaj manj pozresnega a skoraj enako hitrega pa bo vse OK.
Ne se zajebavat z manjavo plate. Tudi, ce ga odvijes kot predlaga hojnik, bo verjetno delalo,
a bo matral to plato in ji na koncu verjetno hitro skuril napajalni del, pa bos kmalu spet sraufal.
Poglej tudi za kak spodobnejsi PSU.
Ne se zajebavat z manjavo plate. Tudi, ce ga odvijes kot predlaga hojnik, bo verjetno delalo,
a bo matral to plato in ji na koncu verjetno hitro skuril napajalni del, pa bos kmalu spet sraufal.
Poglej tudi za kak spodobnejsi PSU.
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