Vojna v Jemnu

"Točke" po SA
http://southfront.org/180-saudi-led-tro...

Iran: Savdska Arabija je bombardirala naše veleposlaništvo v Jemnu

http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/iran-savdska-...


Saudici samo izivajo.

Le da so v Iranu ene 10x bolj civilizirani, kot v SA

Smrekar1 je 8. jan 2016 ob 09:23 izjavil:

Eni in drugi so isto sranje, razlika je samo v tem, da je Savdska Arabija pripravljena sodelovati s civiliziranim svetom, Iran pa ne. Res mi ni jasno kako lahko v takem konfliktu kdo podpira Iran.

Res ne vem kako lahko nekdo podpira SA, ki živi še miselno v šotorih. Najbrž je sam na istem nivoju. Iran sploh ni v nobenem konfliktu ...

ZAE Mirage 2000 downed, pilota gotofa.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ua...

AC_DC je 14. mar 2016 ob 17:08 izjavil:

ZAE Mirage 2000 downed, pilota gotofa.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ua...

Po novicah iz Almasdarnewsa bi morali Jemenski uporniki počasi že zmagovito vkorakati v Jeruzalem.

Invictus je 9. mar 2016 ob 15:49 izjavil:

Iran sploh ni v nobenem konfliktu ...

Razen Jemna, Sirije, Katarja, Savdske Arabije, Libanona in še kje.

Razlika med Savdsko Arabijo in Iranom je predvsem v tem, da je Savdska Arabija sekularna država z izredno močnim vplivom Islama, Iran pa je kar odkrito Islamska republika. "Toejto tomato".

XsenO je 15. mar 2016 ob 08:46 izjavil:

Nope
SA je islamska absolutistična monarhija s šerjatskim pravom, ki prepoveduje izvajanje obredov drugih religij in prepoveda spreobrnitve.

Meanwhile v Iranu so druge religije dovoljene in celo imajo stalne sedeže v parlamentu

http://www.iranhrdc.org/english/publica...

Although apostasy is punishable by death in Iran, the Islamic Republic has never codified the crime of apostasy. Instead, relying on the Iranian Constitution, the Islamic Penal Code authorizes the enforcement of certain Islamic laws known as hodud crimes even when the crime is not specifically mentioned in the criminal code.

Več sreče prihodnjič.

XsenO je 15. mar 2016 ob 09:06 izjavil:

Zakaj? To še vedno ne spremeni dejstva, da SA ni sekularna država in da druge religje v Iranu imajo stalni sedež v parlamentu

Ker sta ti dve dejstvi povsem nepomembni. Ne Iran in ne SA nista sekularni državi. Tistih pet sedežev v iranskem parlamentu je zgolj gesta, ki prepriča zgolj puhloglave.

Ustava Islamske Republike Iran tako v svojem 2. členu pravi, da je Bog samo en in da vodstvo države nadaljuje islamsko revolucijo. Nadalje člen pravi, da mora biti vodstvo države kvalificirano po Koranu in Sunah (t.j. muslimansko). Tretji člen ustave pravi, da mora država podpirati "moralne vrednote" vere, v četrtem členu da mora biti zakonodaja podrejena islamski zakonodaji, v petem da samo čakajo na novega Mahdija (Šiitski voditelj), v sedmem in osmem citira Koran glede ureditve države, v enajstem da si morajo prizadevati za enotnost celega islamskega sveta, v dvanajstem da je uradna religija države Šiitski Islam, v štirinajstem dovoli sobivanje zgolj tistim nevernikom, ki ne nasprotujejo islamski državi ... in tako dalje.

Strinjam se, da SA ni najboljša primerjava za Iran. Veliko boljša primerjava je ISIS.

XsenO je 15. mar 2016 ob 09:21 izjavil:

ehm...

Savdska Arabija ima sekularno oblast - kralja, ne recimo Ajatole - in uradno religijo.

Iran ima na oblasti kar lepo verskega voditelja in v ustavi večkrat jasno definirano, da so islamska država. V primerjavi z Iranom je SA sekularna država, v primerjavi s Slovenijo pa pač ne.

Smrekar1 je 15. mar 2016 ob 09:28 izjavil:

XsenO je 15. mar 2016 ob 09:21 izjavil:

ehm...

Savdska Arabija ima sekularno oblast - kralja, ne recimo Ajatole - in uradno religijo.

Iran ima na oblasti kar lepo verskega voditelja in v ustavi večkrat jasno definirano, da so islamska država. V primerjavi z Iranom je SA sekularna država, v primerjavi s Slovenijo pa pač ne.

V praksi je isti drek

Saudi Arabia is almost unique in giving the ulema (the body of Islamic religious leaders and jurists) a direct role in government,[138] the only other example being Iran.[139] The ulema have also been a key influence in major government decisions, for example the imposition of the oil embargo in 1973 and the invitation to foreign troops to Saudi Arabia in 1990.[140] In addition, they have had a major role in the judicial and education systems[141] and a monopoly of authority in the sphere of religious and social morals.[142]

XsenO je 15. mar 2016 ob 09:54 izjavil:

V praksi je isti drek

Ni daleč od resnice. Vsekakor se mi zdi neumno podpirati Iran proti Savdski Arabiji. Sam nasprotujem obojim, ampak bi raje najprvo opravil z Iranom. Savdska Arabija je namreč še na naši strani, neumno je metati stran zaveznike, ki jih potrebuješ.

Ni daleč od resnice. Vsekakor se mi zdi neumno podpirati Iran proti Savdski Arabiji. Sam nasprotujem obojim, ampak bi raje najprvo opravil z Iranom. Savdska Arabija je namreč še na naši strani, neumno je metati stran zaveznike, ki jih potrebuješ.

Oboji se s teboj rokujejo medtem, ko ti zabadajo nož v hrbet. Razlika je edino ta, da ene podpira/tolerira ZDA pri tem početju...

Mimogrede, ve kdo, kakšno je stanje v Jemnu zdaj, že dolgo časa ni bilo nekih poročil. A je cela situacija dosegla točko iz katere se nobena od obeh straneh ne premika.

Ker kolikor vem so savdijci skupaj z najemniki nadzorovali malo več kot polovico države, seveda sunitsko, ne šiitsko. Pol pa je bil tu konec poročanja.

KSA (letalstvo in kopenske enote) in alkaida skupaj proti hutijem v Taizu:
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/sa...


+18
Aftermath nedavnega bombardiranja tržnice iz strani KSA letalstva, 148 cilivistov manj:
http://www.aljabhah.com/?p=47760

No, pa se malo bolj uradno. Na zalost je samo copy/paste iz internega sistema novic...

Zeid condemns repeated killing of civilians in Yemen airstrikes

GENEVA (18 March 2016) - In the wake of another deadly airstrike that killed some 106 civilians in a crowded village market in north-western Yemen, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein on Friday condemned the repeated failure of the Coalition forces to take effective actions to prevent the recurrence of such incidents, and to publish transparent, independent investigations into those that have already occurred.

"The carnage caused by two airstrikes on the Al Khamees market, in north-western Yemen on Tuesday was one of the deadliest incidents since the start of the conflict a year ago," said Zeid, noting that it was the second such incident in the past three weeks. On 27 February, at least 39 civilians, including nine children, were killed, and another 33 injured, by an airstrike on the Khaleq market in a north-eastern district of Sana`a.

UN Human Rights Office staff in Yemen, who visited the site of the attack in northern Hajja Gvernorate on Wednesday and interviewed a number of eyewitnesses, said the airstrikes had completely destroyed 16 shops in the Al Khamees market, which is the primary shopping area for some 15 surrounding villages. The attack had apparently taken place during the afternoon rush hour when the market was particularly crowded.

There were 24 children among the 106 people reported dead so far. UN staff recorded the names of 96 of the victims, although a further 10 bodies were burned beyond recognition. More than 40 other people were reported to have been injured during the attack.

Since the beginning of the conflict a year ago, the UN Human Rights Office has recorded a total of just under 9,000 casualties including 3,218 civilians killed and a further 5,778 injured (from 26 March 2015 to 17 March 2016).

The UN human rights staff could find no evidence of any armed confrontation or significant military objects in the area at the time of the attack, beyond the presence of a check-point some 250 meters away from the market usually manned by a small group of policemen and Houthis.

"Looking at the figures, it would seem that the coalition is responsible for twice as many civilian casualties as all other forces put together, virtually all as a result of airstrikes," the High Commissioner said. "They have hit markets, hospitals, clinics, schools, factories, wedding parties - and hundreds of private residences in villages, towns and cities including the capital Sana'a. Despite plenty of international demarches, these awful incidents continue to occur with unacceptable regularity. In addition, despite public promises to investigate such incidents, we have yet to see progress in any such investigations."

"It would appear to be the case that the distinction between legitimate military targets and civilian ones -- which are protected under international law -- is at best woefully inadequate," Zeid said. "And at worst, we are possibly looking at the commission of international crimes by members of the Coalition. There is an obligation to distinguish at all times between military targets and civilians. The Houthis and their allies have also been responsible for indiscriminate ground attacks resulting in civilian casualties, which I also condemn and which could qualify, likewise, as international crimes."

One year on from the start of the conflict, the UN Human Rights Chief lamented the failure of the two sides to the conflict to agree a peace deal, adding he hoped that an announcement by a Coalition spokesman on Thursday that Saudi Arabia was planning to scale back major combat operations would indeed lead rapidly to a full ceasefire and peace agreement.

"I urge both sides to swallow their pride and bring this conflict to a halt," Zeid said. "The people of Yemen have suffered enough. A very poor country is having its limited infrastructure decimated, and people are struggling desperately to survive."

Smrekar1 je 31. mar 2016 ob 12:20 izjavil:

Pa mimogrede, Huthiji si precej bolj zaslužijo nadimek glavorezci kot opankarji.

Ja? A lahko daš kak primer?

morbo je 31. mar 2016 ob 12:35 izjavil:

Ja? A lahko daš kak primer?

Seveda.

https://slo-tech.com/forum/t658748/p510...

Razlika med njimi in ISIS je predvsem v tem, da njih podpira Islamska republika, ISIS pa ne.

fikus_ je 31. mar 2016 ob 12:35 izjavil:

Smrekar tile viri niso verodostojni, tako kot ti trdiš za npr. rt in podobne

Za razliko od RT so vsi uporabljeni viri še kako verodostoji. Verodostojnost vira namreč ni odvisna od trditev, ki jih postavlja naključen bralec. Več sreče prihodnjič

Ehmmm obe "glavni" strani sta podprte s strani islamskih držav...

morbo je 31. mar 2016 ob 12:38 izjavil:

Citiranje samega sebe = vir? :)

Povezava je do utemeljitve zakaj si bolj zaslužijo naziv glavorezci kot opankarji, ki si ga, kot kaže, zgrešil.

Ne. razlika je da Jemenci ne širijo svoje ideologije po regiji in EU, ter tebi nebi prerezali vratu.

Saj tudi ISIS ne širi svoje ideologije po regiji in EU. Prej obratno. Poleg tega sem močno skeptičen do tega kaj oni bi rezali in kaj ne bi. Njihov moto je s tem namreč povsem konsistenten. Glede na to, da gre v bistvu za ispostavo 'dobre' islamske države (Irana) bi me verjetno prej obesili, ker sem že tolikokrat užalil njihovo vero.

Če že lahko izbiram se mi zdi to slabša opcija od obglavljanja s sabljo. Iranski svečeniki namreč zagovarjajo obešanje s t.i. kratkim padcem, kar pomeni nekako od 10 minut do 1 ure hude agonije. V primerjavi z njimi so metode, ki jih uporablja ISIS, neprimerno bolj humane. Grozno koga nekateri podpirate, kajne?

morbo je 31. mar 2016 ob 12:54 izjavil:

Da. Ampak iranska stran (zaenkrat še) ne vodi džihada proti EU, ne širi svoje mračnjaške ideologije po celem svetu in ne poskuša obglaviti Smrekarja.

Druga stran pa.

Zanimiva hipoteza.

2012 Burgas bus bombing @ Wikipedia

Iranski terorizem je v EU prišel pred ISIS. Samo toliko, da ne bo kakšne zmede.

Tudi svoje mračnjaštvo kar lepo vrivajo v evropo.

Hezbollah @ Wikipedia

Razlika je edino v tem, da jih je manj in so zaradi tega nekoliko manj učinkoviti. To je pa tudi vse.

Smrekar1 je 31. mar 2016 ob 12:57 izjavil:

Povezava je do utemeljitve zakaj si bolj zaslužijo naziv glavorezci kot opankarji

Dokler ne vidim virov kjer počnejo kar jim očitaš, so vse le tvoje prazne marnje.

Saj tudi ISIS ne širi svoje ideologije po regiji in EU. Prej obratno.

ISIS = sunitski islamizem = Saudova Arabija = radikalne mošeje po Evropi.

Iranski terorizem je v EU prišel pred ISIS. Samo toliko, da ne bo kakšne zmede.

Kaj pa al-Keada? ISIS, al-Kaeda, Saudova Arabija... to je vse ena in ista ideološka čorba - sunitski ekstremizem.

Mogoče bo nekoč Iran glavna grožnja in takrat bomo obdelali Iran. Do takrat bi pa bilo fino da nehaš navijat in opravičevat trenutne rablje življa na BV, S.Afriki in EU - sunitske ekstremiste.

RPG-32 proizvajajo v Jordaniji pod licenco.

Smrekar1 je 1. apr 2016 ob 12:53 izjavil:

D3m je 1. apr 2016 ob 12:49 izjavil:

RPG-32 proizvajajo v Jordaniji pod licenco.

To drži, ampak Jordanija je v Jemnu zaveznica Savdske Arabije. Isto velja za tretjega uporabnika, ZAE.
Edini možni vir je torej - Rusija.

Očitno so Putlerju nekateri glavorezci povsem ljubi. Dajte me spomnit, a ni ena velikih kritik Pedrogana ta, da podpira ISIS?
No, Putler kot kaže ni boljši niti v tem, da bi se boril proti vsem ekstremistom, temveč nekatere kot kaže veselo zalaga z orožjem, kar ni bilo Pedroganu nikoli dokazano. Fajn, ane?

Od kdaj je pa to važno?

Denar ne smrdi.

D3m je 1. apr 2016 ob 12:59 izjavil:

Od kdaj je pa to važno?

Denar ne smrdi.

Ti pa res nič ne razumeš.

Ko to delajo Američani, gre za širjenje demokracije in svobode.

Ko delajo to Rusi, gre za ustvarjanje gulagov.

Nema para...

Hm,
ne vem ali je prvi ali drugi del bolj pod vprašanjem. No za prvi del vemo... Terorsti oziroma njihovi družinski člani se pač tretira drugače... Tole je bilo še dodatnih 20 izpred dveh dneh..

Coalition air raids have repeatedly struck civilian targets while trying to target Houthi forces during the three-year war. The coalition says it does not target civilians.
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The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to brief the media, the agency added.

Tole so se učili od Izralecev, verjetno US izdatno pomaga. Tisti črni droni, tam niso zaradi lepšega.

Killings of preachers and religious scholars in the south of the country, focus attention on a new layer of complexity developing in Yemen's civil war.