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pangro ::
gozdar1 ::
Sovražnik mojega sovražnika....
The extremist rebranded Al-Qaeda "rebels" in Syria told the Israeli media, "We love Israel".
https://x.com/BenjaminNorton/status/186...
The extremist rebranded Al-Qaeda "rebels" in Syria told the Israeli media, "We love Israel".
https://x.com/BenjaminNorton/status/186...
pangro ::
Sovražnik mojega visn....
The extremist rebranded Al-Qaeda "rebels" in Syria told the Israeli media, "We love Israel".
https://x.com/BenjaminNorton/status/186...
Ne no preveč sirija je pa itak žila za hezbollah. Zdaj je samo odvisno bo lahko izrael shajal s sirijo pod vplivom turkov in fanatičnega islama?
Po moje bi bil Assad ki prestopi na drugo stran boljsa izbira za Izrael?
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paradajzos ::
Torej je logika taka
V Siriji kjer američani podpirajo uporanike to ni kul in so uporaniki teroristi
V Jemnu kjer Iran/Rusi podpirajo uporanike je pa to kul in so uporaniki borci za svobodo
Tako nekako ?
Točno to piše v Vladarju od Machiavellija
Levakarski fake forum.
Moderatorske manipulacije.
Serijsko.
Moderatorske manipulacije.
Serijsko.
Malidelničar ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Ob Evfratu (Deir Ez Zor)so Kurdi (SDF) zavzeli med pet in sedem vasi. Američani bombardirajo Asadove sile in iranske šiitske milice na drugem bregu reke
Vir: https://syria.liveuamap.com/
To se pravi američani in kurdi hočejo preprečit iranski vstop v vojno?
Po mojem Američani ščitijo Kurde. S tem da so Demokrati v ZDA bili temu bolj naklonjeni (Trump se je nazadnje umaknil).
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pangro ::
No zdaj so karte spet premešane. Kaj misliš kako bo trumpova administracija postopala?
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Strel455 ::
pangro ::
Ja mogoče pa res. Za izraelce bi bilo najbolj iz varnostnega vidika da se libanon otrese Hezbollaha.
Malidelničar ::
pangro: po mojem bodo pragmatični in bodo zasledovali cilje zaščite Izraela in uničenja iranskega vpliva. Vprašanje, kje tu Trumpova administracija vidi Kurde. Vprašanje tudi ali bo Trumpu uspelo sestaviti anti-iransko Izraelsko-Arabsko koalicijo in kakšen vpliv bi v njej lahko igrala anti-Asadova opozicija. Če bo Trump ocenil, da je Rusija podpornik iranskega vpliva v regiji se bo pomišljal, da jih brcne ven iz Latakije. Prej bi Trump popuščal Turkom.
Nasploh se zdi, da se vedno bolj kaže sovraštvo vseh do Irancev, nihče jih ne mara.
Nasploh se zdi, da se vedno bolj kaže sovraštvo vseh do Irancev, nihče jih ne mara.
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pangro ::
Mislim da magovcem še vedno ni jasno da je rusija zaveznik irana..... trump bo moral oboje zbrcat iz sirije. Iran in Rusijo. Očitno magatardi še niso dojeli da smo v novi hladni vojni.
Malidelničar ::
pangro: menim, da je za MAGOvce glavni sovražnik Iran. In slej ko prej bodo ugotovili, da imajo opravka z osjo Iran-Rusija. Iz tega vidika se bo njihovo stališče do Rusije ohladilo (tudi kar se tiče Sirije).
Pri Siriji je pa itak glavni vidik za njih varnost Izraela.
Pri Siriji je pa itak glavni vidik za njih varnost Izraela.
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kow ::
SDF je prevzel del ozemlja na levem bregu Evfrata (Deir ez-Zor), ki so ga se nadzorovale vladne sile.
Pac-Man ::
to
https://x.com/rozina_ali/status/1863318...
https://x.com/portraitinflesh/status/18...
https://x.com/rozina_ali/status/1863318...
Assad regime has brutalized Syrians for decades. This anecdote, from 2019, is just one example.in to
https://x.com/portraitinflesh/status/18...
The Nazi resonance here isn't merely aesthetic. Alois Brunner, SS officer and leading Holocaust perpetrator, ended his life in Syria, where he taught Assad's father's regime all he knew about torture techniques. Calling Ba'athism "Arab fascism" is inexact, but basically correct.
Alois Brunner @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
Mislim da magovcem še vedno ni jasno da je rusija zaveznik irana..... trump bo moral oboje zbrcat iz sirije. Iran in Rusijo. Očitno magatardi še niso dojeli da smo v novi hladni vojni.
V prvem mandatu je Trump želel iz Sirije umakniti ameriško vojsko, prav tako pa se je upiral vojni z Iranom ter izjavil, da imajo tudi rusi legitimne varnostne interese v Ukrajini.
Ta antiimperijska drža je tudi pripomogla k temu, da je bil izvoljen.
Kaj se je po tvojem spremenilo, da pričakuješ, da bo šel v vojno z rusi in perzijci?
Assad regime has brutalized Syrians for decades. This anecdote, from 2019, is just one example.
In zato ga skušamo nadomestiti z ISIS - ker se nam smilijo ubogi sirci?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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l0g1t3ch ::
l0g1t3ch ::
Marco Rubio says he is against Gaza ceasefire
Video of senator's strong pro-Israel stance re-emerges after he is revealed to be Donald Trump's pick for secretary of state
https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-a...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics...
Hamas so divje živali...
Fritz ::
Marco Rubio says he is against Gaza ceasefire
Video of senator's strong pro-Israel stance re-emerges after he is revealed to be Donald Trump's pick for secretary of state
https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-a...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics...
Hamas so divje živali...
Apartheidovci pa zlobni genocidarji. A ni fajn tako nabijat.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
l0g1t3ch ::
Marco Rubio says he is against Gaza ceasefire
Video of senator's strong pro-Israel stance re-emerges after he is revealed to be Donald Trump's pick for secretary of state
https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-a...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics...
Hamas so divje živali...
Apartheidovci pa zlobni genocidarji. A ni fajn tako nabijat.
Jaz nič ne pravim o enih in drugih.
Jaz samo pravim kake izjave ima Trump in njegovi izbranci. In te izjave kažejo da bo podprl Izrael še bolj kot ga je Biden.
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kow ::
Pac-Man ::
prav tako pa se je upiral vojni z Iranom
Sulejmani ti z njegovimi 72 devicami pošilja iskrene pozdrave.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Tole bo tudi zanimivo...
Trump je tukaj glup ko ruski kurac ki ga vlečejo njegovi magatardi. Dolar je itak toliko konkurenčen da bi mu moralo dol viset za brics.
Če verjameš trumpovem trolanju, potem ti paše tudi tole...
V končni fazi je pa trum napovedal trife na celi svet. E bi razumel, ti bi bilo jasno da rabi od nekje filati luknjo Ameriškega proračuna, tarife so pa tako ali drugače zgolj davek. Dokler ti pač to ni jasno je zgornja slika pač primer neizobraženih ki pod vsakim kamnom vidijo rusofile.
In zato ga skušamo nadomestiti z ISIS - ker se nam smilijo ubogi sirci?
To si si izmislil. Kdo tocno predlaga, da oblast prevzame ISIS?
Sej se podpira ISIS oziroma kakorkoli je populistični izraz borcev za svobodo na zahodnjih medijih.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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pangro ::
zdaj vidimo da z odprtjem fronte v gazi in severnem izraelu je putinova os izgubila allepo, bravo plosk plosk.
verjetno so hoteli raztegnit zahod nategnil so pa sami sebe
finančni trgi pa signalizirajo da putinova os izgublja ekonomsko vojno višino obrestnih mer se ne da skriti.
verjetno so hoteli raztegnit zahod nategnil so pa sami sebe
finančni trgi pa signalizirajo da putinova os izgublja ekonomsko vojno višino obrestnih mer se ne da skriti.
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arnecan1 ::
to
https://x.com/rozina_ali/status/1863318...
Assad regime has brutalized Syrians for decades. This anecdote, from 2019, is just one example.in to
https://x.com/portraitinflesh/status/18...
The Nazi resonance here isn't merely aesthetic. Alois Brunner, SS officer and leading Holocaust perpetrator, ended his life in Syria, where he taught Assad's father's regime all he knew about torture techniques. Calling Ba'athism "Arab fascism" is inexact, but basically correct.
Alois Brunner @ Wikipedia
Seveda.
Diktatorja, kateri je držal na kratko islamiste bomo zamenjali s sirskimi Talibani, da bomo dobili novi demokratični Afganistan.
Demokracija v teh srednjeveških teokratičnih državah se vedno prelevi, kater v islamistične vukojebine. Vsi vemo, kdo je bil po letu 2012 izvoljen po demokratičnih volitvah v Egiptu? Ali koga so izvolili v Turčiji, ko se je končala vojaška diktatura? Z fundamentalističnim islamom je možno samo dvoje ali pride na oblast glavorezec, kateri jih surovo zatre ali pa se jih izžene, kakor npr. v Španiji. Edini so imeli kolikor toliko uspeha pri zatiranju islamistov so bili komunajzari. Ampak tudi tam zadnje čase prihaja do novega prebujanja islamistov.
kow ::
Pac-Man ::
Diktatorja, kateri je držal na kratko islamiste bomo zamenjali s sirskimi Talibani
Dvomim, da je bil študent prava sirski taliban
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Strel455 ::
https://x.com/Al7khalidi/status/1863998...
Absolutely true, every offensive the regime would utilise the ISIS kharijite to back stab the opposition, and after the opposition was defeated the extremists in the liberated areas would accuse other groups of being puppets hence infighting
https://x.com/TaziMorocco/status/186399...
The only thing that saved Assad few years ago was #ISIS
These Assad's Agents attacked Syrian Rebels in the back
Absolutely true, every offensive the regime would utilise the ISIS kharijite to back stab the opposition, and after the opposition was defeated the extremists in the liberated areas would accuse other groups of being puppets hence infighting
https://x.com/TaziMorocco/status/186399...
The only thing that saved Assad few years ago was #ISIS
These Assad's Agents attacked Syrian Rebels in the back
Malidelničar ::
https://x.com/MT_Anderson/status/186396...
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??Med Sea Flotilla??
? from 3 December 2024 confirms the Med Sea flotilla has departed Tartus, likely on 2 December
The departed vessels include: 3x frigates (2x Gorshkov class | 1x Grigorovich class), 1x Improved Kilo and 2x auxiliaries
?update?
??Med Sea Flotilla??
? from 3 December 2024 confirms the Med Sea flotilla has departed Tartus, likely on 2 December
The departed vessels include: 3x frigates (2x Gorshkov class | 1x Grigorovich class), 1x Improved Kilo and 2x auxiliaries
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pangro ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
https://x.com/MT_Anderson/status/186396...
?update?
??Med Sea Flotilla??
? from 3 December 2024 confirms the Med Sea flotilla has departed Tartus, likely on 2 December
The departed vessels include: 3x frigates (2x Gorshkov class | 1x Grigorovich class), 1x Improved Kilo and 2x auxiliaries
če je to res potem se rusi poslavljajo iz sirije, raša is vining
gozdar1 ::
Očitno se bosta iran in rusija borili, do zadnjega sirca...plus potencjalna nevarnost 3 sv vojne, ker ima sosednji izrael j. orožje pa še jedrske vojne.
Malidelničar ::
Trenutno so na obrobju Hame. Kar pa se tiče prodora v Latakijo/Tartus pa ne smemo pozabiti, da je vmes gorovje in je edini dostop do obale Sredozemskega morja ena večja cesta bolj proti jugu.
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kow ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Trenutno so na obrobju Hame. Kar pa se tiče prodora v Latakijo/Tartus pa ne smemo pozabiti, da je vmes gorovje in je edini dostop do obale Sredozemskega morja ena večja cesta bolj proti jugu.
Ce zasedes Homs, Latakijo odrezes od Damaska in ostale Sirije. Game over.
Malidelničar ::
kow: možno, je Homs tisti glavni game-changer?
Plus nekaj se kuha na jugu pri Druzih, tam so že 2011 bile prve vstaje proti Asadu. Jug je pa povsem blizu Damaska.
Plus nekaj se kuha na jugu pri Druzih, tam so že 2011 bile prve vstaje proti Asadu. Jug je pa povsem blizu Damaska.
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Malidelničar ::
Asadove sile se počasi umikajo iz Hame uporniki so na vpadnicah. Je pa še en vektor prodora in sicer iz vzhoda proti Salamiyi (ki je na višini med Hamo in Homsom) in lahko prideš preko tega kraja do Homsa, ni edina opcija samo preko Hame. Mislite, da bodo uporniki odprli nov vektor prodora?
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kow ::
Glavno vprasanje je itak, ali frakcije verjemejo v sirsko identitio, ali ne. Ali je razkosanje drzave smiselno, ali ne.
V vsakem primeru regionalne sile ne bodo pustile Kurdom lastne drzave.
V vsakem primeru regionalne sile ne bodo pustile Kurdom lastne drzave.
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Vanich ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Mislite, da bodo uporniki odprli nov vektor prodora?
Če parafraziram Šekspirja: "Govno pod drugim imenom ravno tako smrdi".
Kakšni "uporniki"? Al-Kaida in ISIS so zate "uporniki"? Lep primer 1984 novoreka, nažalost pa ne funkcionira več.
redtech ::
ZH
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/...
Iran Ready To Send More Troops To Syria, But This Could Trigger Deeper Israeli Entry
Tehran is willing to "consult and dialogue" with Turkey over regional differences, and its leaders will soon hold direct talks again with Russian President Vladimir Putin to coordinate a response.
Iran has of course long had troops in Syria assisting Assad forces, but any kind of bigger surge of Iranian and IRGC troops is sure to be noticed in a big way by Israel.
Israel has already been bombing Syria on a weekly basis, ostensibly as part of efforts to thwart pro-Iranian assets in the Levant region. If the Islamic Republic sends more of its troops this would likely trigger greater direct Israeli military intervention.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/...
Iran Ready To Send More Troops To Syria, But This Could Trigger Deeper Israeli Entry
Tehran is willing to "consult and dialogue" with Turkey over regional differences, and its leaders will soon hold direct talks again with Russian President Vladimir Putin to coordinate a response.
Iran has of course long had troops in Syria assisting Assad forces, but any kind of bigger surge of Iranian and IRGC troops is sure to be noticed in a big way by Israel.
Israel has already been bombing Syria on a weekly basis, ostensibly as part of efforts to thwart pro-Iranian assets in the Levant region. If the Islamic Republic sends more of its troops this would likely trigger greater direct Israeli military intervention.
Fritz ::
ZH
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/...
Iran Ready To Send More Troops To Syria, But This Could Trigger Deeper Israeli Entry
Tehran is willing to "consult and dialogue" with Turkey over regional differences, and its leaders will soon hold direct talks again with Russian President Vladimir Putin to coordinate a response.
Iran has of course long had troops in Syria assisting Assad forces, but any kind of bigger surge of Iranian and IRGC troops is sure to be noticed in a big way by Israel.
Israel has already been bombing Syria on a weekly basis, ostensibly as part of efforts to thwart pro-Iranian assets in the Levant region. If the Islamic Republic sends more of its troops this would likely trigger greater direct Israeli military intervention.
Apartheidovci so z bombardiranjem in detonacijami Motorol džihadistom odprli pot za ofenzivo. Svoje je dodala zaspanost SAA in nepripravljenost na bojevanje z uporabo dronov, čeprav je bila ravno Sirija prvo bojišče, kjer se je začela masovna uporaba majhnih komercialnih dronov v vojaške namene. Plus seveda Turčija in nekaj prenosa izkušenj iz Ukrajine.
Iran in Irak bosta morala reagirati, sicer se jim zna ponoviti situacija kot z IS. Prednost je v tem, da imajo džihadisti relativno malo sil glede na zavzeta območja in so čedalje bolj raztegnjeni, poleg tega pa imajo še notranja nasprotja (spopadi med HTS in Jaish-al-Islam).
Turki imajo dvojni cilj - Kurde in potencialno zasedbo severnega dela Sirije.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
pangro ::
noben ne ve koliko ima kdo sil, verjamem pa da izraelu smrdi pojačanje iranske prisotnosti in bodo naredil vse da do tega ne pride
fikus_ ::
Iran in Irak bosta zagotovo poslala svoje ljudi/vojake v Sirijo, tako da ta eskalacija ne gre na roko IL in manjšanju vpliva Irana.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
fur80 ::
Iran in Irak bosta zagotovo poslala svoje ljudi/vojake v Sirijo, tako da ta eskalacija ne gre na roko IL in manjšanju vpliva Irana.
Ja Irak pošillja starkče in veterane, skratka kanonfuter. Rusi so zgleda pobegnili, verjeto so bili tukaj samo nagrajenci, ki jim ni bilo treba v Ukrajino in se tukaj seveda ne bodo straljali. Asadovi se pa tako že na začetku niso hoteli kaj extra boriti in bi tako zgubili proti upornikom, če ne bi vstopili Rusi, Kurdi, USA, Iranci.
Torej čaka se le na Iran in kaj bodo storili in kaj poslali, drugače je Asad pečen.
fur80 ::
Če je kdo mislil, da Mad Max v real file ne obstaja:
HTS-led rebel forces are advancing through the desert in the countryside of Aleppo towards Hama.
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/186427...
HTS-led rebel forces are advancing through the desert in the countryside of Aleppo towards Hama.
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/186427...
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mtosev ::
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mtosev ::
Bo Assad preživel to? Glede, da ima podporo Rusije in Irana bo zelo verjetno.
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kow ::
Ja. Pa tudi kar nekaj zapuscene opreme je asadova vojska pustila za sabo. Pomeni, da se ne branijo povsem organizirano.
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pangro ::
Ja. Pa tudi kar nekaj zapuscene opreme je asadova vojska pustila za sabo. Pomeni, da se ne branijo povsem organizirano.
ja zanimivi posnetki
https://x.com/Tendar/status/18642579991...
Assad forces abandoned dozens of MBTs, IFVs and trucks on the Khanaser road, probably because of lack of fuel.
It is so reminiscent when Russians abandoned countless of gear after the failure in taking Kyiv.