Konflikt v Siriji

Pac-Man je 17. nov 2015 ob 16:15 izjavil:

To naj bi bilo danes:
Navadne cigle iz Tu-22M in rakete iz Tu-95 in Tu-160.

Jim Jones je 17. nov 2015 ob 15:36 izjavil:

Zna kdo povedati koliko objektov ima ISIS. Glede na to, da Rusi tolčejo že skoraj 2 meseca 60+ zgradb na dan??? Bo tega sploh kdaj konec??

Fritz je 17. nov 2015 ob 16:40 izjavil:

Rusi veliko nakladajo vendar tudi precej naredijo, za razliko od Američanov, ki so do nedavnega samo nakladali.

Confessions of an ISIS Spy

It took some convincing, but the man we’ll call Abu Khaled finally came to tell his story. ... He had since joined the ranks of the so-called Islamic State and served with its “state security” branch, the Amn al-Dawla, training jihadist infantry and foreign operatives. Now, he said, he had left ISIS as a defector—making him a marked man.

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“All my life, OK, I’m Muslim, but I’m not into Sharia or very religious,” he said early in our conversation. “One day, I looked in the mirror at my face. I had a long beard. I didn’t recognize myself. It was like Pink Floyd. ‘There’s somebody in my head but it’s not me.’”

Not many recovering jihadists have a word-perfect recall for “Brain Damage.” But Abu Khaled is not a fresh young fanatic anxious for martyrdom, he is a well-educated multilingual Syrian national of middle age whose talents, including his past military training, the ISIS leadership had found useful.

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Like many of his compatriots, he’d spent a large part of a war that has gone on for half a decade based in southern Turkey. He joined ISIS on Oct. 19, 2014, he said, about a month after the U.S.-led coalition’s Operation Inherent Resolve expanded its aerial bombardment campaign to Raqqa, the eastern province where ISIS keeps its “capital.”

Abu Khaled felt compelled to sign up because he believed America was an accomplice to global conspiracy, led by Iran and Russia, to keep the tyrant Bashar al-Assad in power. How else could it be explained that the U.S. was waging war only against Sunnis, and leaving an Alawite-run regime guilty of mass murder by almost every means and its Iranian Shia armies untouched?

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Before the fight for the Kurdish town of Kobani last year, the caliphate had an aura of invincibility, and people from around the world were rushing to envelop themselves in the black flag of messianic victory. But in that battle, which lasted for months, Kurdish paramilitaries backed by U.S. airpower fought well, while ISIS—at least as far as Abu Khaled characterizes it—needlessly sent thousands to their slaughter, without any tactical, much less strategic, forethought. The jihadist army had lost between 4,000 and 5,000 fighters, most of them non-Syrians.

“Double this number are wounded and can’t fight anymore,” Abu Khaled told me. “They lost a leg or a hand.” Immigrants, then, are requisitioned as cannon fodder? He nodded. In September of last year, at the apogee of ISIS’s foreign recruitment surge, he says the influx of foreigners amazed even those welcoming them in. “We had like 3,000 foreign fighters who arrived every day to join ISIS. I mean, every day. And now we don’t have even like 50 or 60.”

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Some of the jihadists under Abu Khaled’s tutelage have already left al-Dawla, the state, as he puts it, and gone back to their nations of origin. He mentioned two Frenchmen in their early 30s. What were their names? Abu Khaled claimed not to know. “We don’t ask these kinds of questions. We are all ‘Abu Something.’ Once you start asking about personal histories, this is the ultimate red flag.”

How ISIS Picks Its Suicide Bombers

“Suicide bomber is a choice,” said the man we’ll call Abu Khaled, stubbing out a Marlboro Red and lighting a new one. “When you join ISIS, during the clerical classes, they ask: ‘Who will be a martyr?’ People raise their hands, and they go off to a separate group.”

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In the wide world outside al-Dawla al-Islamiya, the Islamic State, we have caught occasional glimpses of these incendiary young zealots. There was, for instance, Jake Bilardi, a disaffected Australian 18-year-old, who, judging by the blog he left while still in Melbourne, made a rather seamless transition from Chomskyism to takfirism, before detonating himself at a checkpoint in Iraq.

Abu Abdullah al-Australi, as he went to his death in Ramadi, was convinced that he was carrying out a noble act of self-sacrifice, turning kamikaze for the caliphate. For him, jihad began at home. “The turning point in my ideological development,” he’d written, coincided with the “beginning of my complete hatred and opposition to the entire system Australia and the majority of the world was based upon. It was also the moment I realised that violent global revolution was necessary to eliminate this system of governance and that I would likely be killed in this struggle.” He was right about that last part, if not quite about how his fellow revolutionaries determined his use-value.

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Amn al-Kharji is ISIS foreign intelligence, whose operatives are sent behind “enemy lines” to conduct espionage or plot and perpetrate terrorist operations. But “enemy lines” doesn’t just refer to countries and cities of the West; any areas in Syria controlled by the Free Syrian Army (FSA) or the Assad regime, and thus not technically within the boundaries of the caliphate, require foreign assets to penetrate.

This is crucial for how the organization “expands” in Syria and Iraq—by dispatching sleepers to recruit agents and informants, or gather information about rival groups, be they other militias or state armies. Abu Khaled emphasized repeatedly that tradecraft rather than martial puissance is what makes ISIS so formidable at seizing and keeping terrain.

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The entire apparatus was honeycombed with semi-autonomous fiefs, often tasked with keeping track of what the others were up to. “A general intelligence department reported to the ‘security emir’ for a region who was in charge of deputy emirs for individual districts. A head of secret spy cells and an ‘intelligence service and information manager’ for the district reported to each of these deputy emirs. The spy cells at the local level reported to the district emir’s deputy. The goal was to have everyone keeping an eye on everyone else.”

This naturally puts one in mind of the KGB or Stasi—hardly a coincidence given that many of the top-ranking ISIS officials are former members of Saddam Hussein’s mukhabarat and therefore past pupils of Warsaw Pact security organs. In fact, the man who constructed the ISIS franchise in Syria, the now-deceased Haji Bakr, had once been a colonel in Saddam’s Air Defense Intelligence Service.

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“A week before I defected, I was sitting with the chief of Amn al-Kharji, Abu Abd Rahman al-Tunisi. They know the weak point of the FSA. Al-Tunisi told me: ‘We are going to train guys we know, recruiters, Syrians… Take them, train them, and send them back to where they came from. We’ll give them $200,000 to $300,000. And because they have money, the FSA will put them in top positions.’”

“This is how ISIS took over Syria,” said Abu Khaled. “It has plants in the villages and areas run by the FSA, and its people are in the FSA.”

In other words: Not all of America’s supposed allies in Syria are what they seem. Some of them, according to Abu Khaled, are being manipulated by people secretly working for ISIS instead.

Smrekar1 je 17. nov 2015 ob 11:23 izjavil:

Predvsem je k ceni za rusko posredovanje v Siriji potrebno dodati 224 civilistov (in ekonomijo Egipta).

Matako je 17. nov 2015 ob 17:22 izjavil:

Če imaš imaš kvalitetno tarčo, ne rabiš _strateškega_ bombnika.

Ker tako na gosto pa IS ahmedi spet niso postavljeni, njihova strateška "industrija" so predvsem civilisti, ki jih cuzajo. No strogo tehnično to je strateška rešitev... samo potem je imel pa folk še kako prav, da je šviznil iz Sirije. Pravočasno.

Vedno bolj se tukaj razkriva ruska "čečenska rešitev problema". In zanimiva simbioza: Rusija ima pri svetovni javnosti nekakšno bianko karto za "strateške" rešitve. Ker pač Rusi - nekako tako kot če pokličeš pogrebnika, potem, ko obupaš nad zdravnikom. Jenksi si gotovo tega ne morejo privoščiti, ker bi bila stopna jamrarije previsoka tudi doma. Rusi so torej bistveno cenejši pri masovni dobavi devičk. Ne samo denarno.. ampak tudi politično.

Pa še Sirijci ne bodo rabili več toliko omenjanih bolnišnic po vojni.

Iraški in sirski Kurdi ne bodo šli niti metra preko ozemlja, ki ga smatrajo svojega. Tistega bodo počistili in ga ne bodo hoteli prepustiti niti Asadu (še ena težava za Bašarja, ker tukaj ne bo mogel računati na Ruse). Za ostalo pa - že zdaj čutijo, čisto pravilno, da opravljajo "delo za druge" - Jizidi se ne štejejo, ker so etnično zelo povezani s Kurdi (govorijo tudi podoben jezik). Saj iraški so dali že večkrat glasno vedeti naj si pač Arabci osvobajajo svoja ozemlja, oni si bodo pa svoja. Kvečjemu bi postavili kakšno tehnično oviro, če bi imeli denar za to.

Jim Jones je 18. nov 2015 ob 17:05 izjavil:

Bi lahko nekdo objavil zemljevid? Se mi ne sanja za kako pomemben del ozemlja gre oziroma kako obsežen je ta del. Če kdo ima sliko koliko območja so že zasegli bi bil hvaležen...

More than 800,000 refugees RETURNING to Syria as Putin OBLITERATES Islamic State
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/615...

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Očitno je še ciljev za popokat... take lepe kolone, tipično delo za A-10 / Su-25 / kasetno strelivo... izgleda nič od tega ni bilo pri roki :(

Kot je pojasnil, je eksplozijo letala povzročila doma izdelana eksplozivna naprava, katere moč je ustrezala kilogramu TNT-ja.

Tarzan je 18. nov 2015 ob 21:03 izjavil:

Ampak, glede na slike in posnetke iz zraka, če tega američani s satelitov in iz dronov ne vidijo, potem je vse popolnoma jasno. In da grejo prvi dan po tem, ko putin spregovori o konvojih v akcijo, češ, o, pa res, dejmo jih,...

Niti skrivajo več ne, da imajo prste v marmeladi...

Mr.B je 18. nov 2015 ob 21:30 izjavil:

Smrekar1,

No a misliš da je ta preživel bombo ?

Smrekar1 je 19. nov 2015 ob 08:41 izjavil:

krneki0001 je 19. nov 2015 ob 07:42 izjavil:

Ker je to drugotnega pomena.

Ja, saj to ti trobimo že ves čas - ISIS je za Putlerja drugorazredna tema.
Oziroma je bila do bombe na letalu. Zdaj je pa očitno ugotovil, zakaj jih preostali svet že toliko časa tolče in zakaj ne želi, da tolče ljudi, ki se dejansko borijo proti ISIS.

Smrekar1 je 19. nov 2015 ob 09:07 izjavil:

krneki0001 je 19. nov 2015 ob 09:04 izjavil:

Spet vlečeš stavke iz konteksta kot tebi paše.

Ne moreš napadat 500km oddaljene cilje, če imaš teroriste 10km od tvojih baz.

Če so Rusi postavili svoja letala 10 km od postojank upornikov je kristalno jasno kdo nima pojma o strategiji.

Že tako je jasno kdo ne ve kaj je strategija in kaj taktika.

Tudi mene zanima, kje najdejo tako Rusi, kot zdaj tudi Francozi cilje za svoje bombne napade in tudi eskapade (t.j. bombardiranje civilnih ciljev), ker so ISISovi bojevniki z izjemo nekaterih bojnih položajev, sicer večin Koliko pa je Asad kakšna posebna izjema v skrivanju med civilisti in nediskriminatornem obstreljevanju civilnih ciljev, bom pa vesel kakšnih dejanskih podatkov (pa ne mi dat za primer tistega izpusta Sarina, za katerega je že 2 leti jasno, da so bili za njim Turki in "demokratična opozicija", saj se da najti še kakšnega drugega).

Edit: hvala za link z independenta, se da še kje to preveriti?

Smrekar1 je 19. nov 2015 ob 11:57 izjavil:

Tudi mene zanima, kje najdejo tako Rusi, kot zdaj tudi Francozi cilje za svoje bombne napade in tudi eskapade (t.j. bombardiranje civilnih ciljev), ker so ISISovi bojevniki z izjemo nekaterih bojnih položajev, sicer večin Koliko pa je Asad kakšna posebna izjema v skrivanju med civilisti in nediskriminatornem obstreljevanju civilnih ciljev, bom pa vesel kakšnih dejanskih podatkov (pa ne mi dat za primer tistega izpusta Sarina, za katerega je že 2 leti jasno, da so bili za njim Turki in "demokratična opozicija", saj se da najti še kakšnega drugega).

Edit: hvala za link z independenta, se da še kje to preveriti?

Če si mnenja, da za napadom s Sarinom stojijo Turki si verjetno nesposoben o zadevi kritično razmišljati. Žal.

Razen seveda, če imaš kakšne nove dokaze, bolj oprijemljive kot "Assad tega že ne bi naredil, mi je begunec zaupal da ni tak".

Testimony from victims of the conflict in Syria suggests rebels have used the nerve agent, sarin, a leading member of a UN commission of inquiry has said.