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Spock83 ::
Ne smem povedat. ;) PCB je že načrtovan in narejen ter na podlagi teh podatkov se lahko sklepajo nekatere stvari. Niso pa še dobili testnega CPUja. AMD je kar precej skrivnosten.
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
Če bi imeli zadovoljivo zadevo, bi bila že na trgu. Ne bi rekel, da Intel čaka in čaka, pa tudi za njih bi bilo zelo slabo čakat. Nimajo kaj čarat, 1 leto pri čipih je kot 5 let pri napajalnikih.
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Spock83 ::
Saj tega se bojim. No pričakujem, da bodo prizvajalci plat dobili proc zdaj zdaj. Za testne namene pa še kakšna stranka začetek naslednjega leta. Prodaja Opteronov bo šele aprila/maja, če ne bo šlo kaj po zlu.
D3m ::
Ne smem povedat. ;) PCB je že načrtovan in narejen ter na podlagi teh podatkov se lahko sklepajo nekatere stvari. Niso pa še dobili testnega CPUja. AMD je kar precej skrivnosten.
Saj ni treba. Ker so vohuni povsod.
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Brane22 ::
Ne smem povedat. ;) PCB je že načrtovan in narejen ter na podlagi teh podatkov se lahko sklepajo nekatere stvari. Niso pa še dobili testnega CPUja. AMD je kar precej skrivnosten.
Se pravi, dobili ste vse podatke, ki so potrebni za design PCBja ? BIOS and Kernel Design Guidea in drugega pa še ne ?
filip007 ::
A BIOS bo res vgrajen v CPU, kaj pa različni proizvajalci plošč, kako bo to delovalo?
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hojnikb ::
če bo, bo kvečjemu kakšna mikrokoda vgrajena direkt v proc, celotn bios sigurno ne
#brezpodpisa
Brane22 ::
Zakaj bi bil BIOS vgrajen ? Gre za par pinov, torej ni biistvenega vzroka. Poleg tega ima BIOS čip kar precej FLASH-a, ki ga verjetno niso šli brezveze tlačit na drag 14nm silicij. BIOS flash pri kitajcih stane €0.5 na kos na malo količino, torej s tem ne dobijo nič.
filip007 ::
Ma ne najdem, kje je tisti link, ki je omejal objavo iz izbrisanega forum objave?
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boolsheat ::
* All overclocking is done via Overdrive, you can't change any performance features at all in the BIOS (on to that next) at all.
* BIOS or UEFI is actually built into the CPU, so only AMD can update the "BIOS" or microcode. All overclocking must take place within the Operating system
* Right now it takes up to 30 minutes to clear the BIOS. If you remove the CPU and place it on another motherboard, it'll have the same settings applied as on the previous board. So debugging is a nightmare
* 6850K SKU (May not be final designation) is wait for it.... $300 roughly. That's 8 Cores and 16 Threads
* AMD's Hyper Threading is called SMU and it is damn good. The same efficiency as Intel's HT.
* Performance is really good, be it SuperPi, Cinebench, 3DMark etc, it's FPU performance is incredibly good and easily matching that of what Intel offers.
* Current performance is staggering even though it is limited to 2133MHz (as mentioned before) and NorthBridge Frequency is limited to 2400MHz
* There will be a nigher SKU than the 6850K, but it is a higher bin so it will certainly overclock better than 6850K and that may carry a premium price, but unlikely to be double.
* There's plenty of excitement from all board vendors about the platform, so we will see how it all pans out. (Especially with the hot mess that INTEL has in store for us H2 2017, that we can leave to another thread)
* For Gaming, the CPU is neck and neck with INTEL, even at low res where CPU bound.
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Brane22 ::
Kewl.
Se pravi BIOS je realiziran s SRAMom na čipu ( + verjetno kak default image v PROM ali offchip na FLASHu), verjetno iz varnostnih razlogov.
All in all, tip zveni zelo optimistično. Kje je problem ?
Se pravi BIOS je realiziran s SRAMom na čipu ( + verjetno kak default image v PROM ali offchip na FLASHu), verjetno iz varnostnih razlogov.
All in all, tip zveni zelo optimistično. Kje je problem ?
filip007 ::
Zaklepajo nastavitve CPUja v CPU, samo verjetno ne bo tak problem se bo že našel nekdo, ki bo napisal program za odlepanje, mogoče še jeder, itak bodo štancani vsi po istem kopitu.
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boolsheat ::
Vprašanje ali je se AMD-jev HT imenuje "SMU" ali "ZScalling"?
https://hardforum.com/attachments/image...
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FireSnake ::
če bo, bo kvečjemu kakšna mikrokoda vgrajena direkt v proc, celotn bios sigurno ne
Tole je popolnoma potegnjeno iz riti.
Zakaj ne bo tako, so ti povedali zgoraj.
Kaj je zate "mikrokoda"?
Fixi "vsaki dan":
http://techfrag.com/2016/11/15/amd-zen/
Upajmo, da jim kaj ne uide ...
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hojnikb ::
nikje ne vidim razlage, kako točno boš v procesorjih pokril vse kombinacije plat. In kako boš reševal problem, ko bo bios v procesorju starejši od plate itd...
Mikrokoda bo lepo direkt v cpuju, ostali del pa na plati.
BIOS or UEFI is actually built into the CPU, so only AMD can update the "BIOS" or microcode. All overclocking must take place within the Operating system
Mikrokoda bo lepo direkt v cpuju, ostali del pa na plati.
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Telbanc ::
https://www.google.si/search?q=amd+stoc...
Delnica AMD ja prebila danes mejo 8 dolarjev.
Ve kdo mogoče kaj je vzrok temu, je že na 8,56.
Delnica AMD ja prebila danes mejo 8 dolarjev.
Ve kdo mogoče kaj je vzrok temu, je že na 8,56.
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Telbanc ::
http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-summit-ridg...
AMD's Next-Generation Summit Ridge Processors With Zen Cores Rumored For Launch on 17th January
MD will ready several variants for their Summit Ridge processors. Yesterday, we talked about the branding scheme and price targets for these processors. The Zen SR7 series will be the top-end parts and are expected to be priced around $250 US. The source mentions that a 1500-2000 Yuan SKU that rounds up to $250-$300 US will have performance on par with Intel's Core i7-6850K CPU. The Zen based chip will feature 8 cores and 16 threads. Intel's offering has 6 cores and 12 threads.
AMD Zen Summit Ridge Processors Currently Optimized Around 3.3 GHz Base and 3.5 GHz Boost - Up To 4.2 GHz Overclock Support, 1.5V
AMD's Next-Generation Summit Ridge Processors With Zen Cores Rumored For Launch on 17th January
MD will ready several variants for their Summit Ridge processors. Yesterday, we talked about the branding scheme and price targets for these processors. The Zen SR7 series will be the top-end parts and are expected to be priced around $250 US. The source mentions that a 1500-2000 Yuan SKU that rounds up to $250-$300 US will have performance on par with Intel's Core i7-6850K CPU. The Zen based chip will feature 8 cores and 16 threads. Intel's offering has 6 cores and 12 threads.
AMD Zen Summit Ridge Processors Currently Optimized Around 3.3 GHz Base and 3.5 GHz Boost - Up To 4.2 GHz Overclock Support, 1.5V
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dottor ::
Wow 1.5V za 4.2GHz... To bo topilo VRMje na poceni ploščah Se pa nebi branu ene 200MHz višjega base in boost clocka.
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
17.01.2017 Summit Ridge
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ze...
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Telbanc ::
Glede na to, da so trenutno primerlivi proci od Intela 600 evrov, ni čudno da so delnice od AMD ja "znorele".
3,3-base in 3,5 ghz boost le ni tolk slabo pri TDP 95W.
3,3-base in 3,5 ghz boost le ni tolk slabo pri TDP 95W.
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m0LN4r ::
Bomo vidl, ce bo intel cez 2 mesca spustil kaj cene.
Zaenkrat ni signala z intelove strani za strah. Lahko pa da je varka
Zaenkrat ni signala z intelove strani za strah. Lahko pa da je varka
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m0LN4r ::
mogoče so pa že kartelsko zmenjeni, da bosta oba teama mela visoke cene :)
Hehehehehe ja
AMD ZEN 8C/16T 5960x like 999$
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
Kaj pa je jurja, če rabiš?
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D3m0r4l1z3d ::
AMD's first desktop processors based on the "ZEN" micro-architecture will be priced above the fastest socket AM4 part currently in production, the A12-9800 APU. While AMD hasn't started selling the A-series socket AM4 APUs in the retail channel, the top-end A12-9800, which is faster than the A10-7870K from its previous-generation, is expected to be priced at least the same ($160) or higher. This would mean that even the cheapest ZEN part, under the ZEN SR3 series, likely quad-core; could be priced above $160.
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m0LN4r ::
Ja sej tam tam bo lepo poravnano z intlom 200.-eur 350.-eur pa 500.-eur nekje, lahko da vec.
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Telbanc ::
http://www.mlacom.si/amd-fx-6300-3-5ghz...
Upam, glede na vse napisano, da se januarja ne bomo stepli za tele FX, ki bojo še ostali.
Upam, glede na vse napisano, da se januarja ne bomo stepli za tele FX, ki bojo še ostali.
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m0LN4r ::
Eh, kdo pa bo sel downgrejdat prava jedra
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dottor ::
http://www.mlacom.si/amd-fx-6300-3-5ghz...
Upam, glede na vse napisano, da se januarja ne bomo stepli za tele FX, ki bojo še ostali.
Dvomim, ker večina folka tukaj pljuva čez te FX-e, sploh ko sem ga omenu kot best budget CPU, tako da ne bo nekega pretiranega navala.
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m0LN4r ::
exactly, to je ze 4 leta staro zelezo
Neverjetno kolk so INTELOVI procesorji napredovali vmes, sem moral ze 3x menjati sistem, da sem dohajal vedno visje zahteve programske opreme.
Mas prav, tam 5 let nazaj smo montirali 720p posnetke, danes pa ze 2160p.
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dottor ::
Se že prav čudim kako lahko folk še vedno shaja z Core 4 Quad, kaj šele z Core 2 Duo.
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m0LN4r ::
Se že prav čudim kako lahko folk še vedno shaja z Core 4 Quad, kaj šele z Core 2 Duo.
Za youtube in facebook je dovolj. Tut za kako voscilnico v slikarju narest.
Tistemu, kateremu je pa cas/delo in rabi racunsko moc pa sigurno ni niti na i5 1./2. generacije vec, razen ce zasluzi stem bolj malo pa ima cas cakat, da pride kaj ven na koncu.
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D3m ::
Se že prav čudim kako lahko folk še vedno shaja z Core 4 Quad, kaj šele z Core 2 Duo.
Za youtube in facebook je dovolj. Tut za kako voscilnico v slikarju narest.
Tistemu, kateremu je pa cas/delo in rabi racunsko moc pa sigurno ni niti na i5 1./2. generacije vec, razen ce zasluzi stem bolj malo pa ima cas cakat, da pride kaj ven na koncu.
LOL.
Blow it out your ass.
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dottor ::
Molnar, sarkazem prijatu
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m0LN4r ::
Molnar, sarkazem prijatu
Jaja sej mi je jasno, sej tile kvadi/duoti so tam tam z novimi mobile apuji.
Razen par featurjev manj. Za tajnistvo super.
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