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Ukrajina Part II
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fur80 ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
+ privlekli so že opremo in vojake iz Gruzije in iz Kaliningrada.
Vprašanje je samo ali za obrambo ali za napad? ;)
Pac-Man ::
MojaDežela je izjavil:
--Pride Chuck Norris v Moskvo in ker ne mara rusko vojsko jo uniči.
Nato gre v Kijev in ker ne mara ukrajinsko vojsko ... se raje preda.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
Kdor je zdej na strani Rusov zaradi ekonomskih koristi oziroma neizgub, je na isti strani kot so bili domobranci med WW2, in če so na strani Rusije zato, ker se je bojijo, je to podobno kor so bili na strani Miloševiča oziroma so se ga vsaj malo bali v vojni za Slovenijo.
Da ni dobro podpirati neke samodržce, ki slej ko prej eskalirajo v neko vsesplošno nevarnost, bi moralo biti danes jasno večini.
o+ nevone
Problem v tej analogiji je samo, da zahod igra vlogo hitlerja, ko rine na ruske meje. Kdor podpira NATO, je na strani domobrancev (prodana duša, ki ignorira gospodarjeve zločine zavoljo ekonomskih interesov).
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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l0g1t3ch ::
Kdor je zdej na strani Rusov zaradi ekonomskih koristi oziroma neizgub, je na isti strani kot so bili domobranci med WW2, in če so na strani Rusije zato, ker se je bojijo, je to podobno kor so bili na strani Miloševiča oziroma so se ga vsaj malo bali v vojni za Slovenijo.
Da ni dobro podpirati neke samodržce, ki slej ko prej eskalirajo v neko vsesplošno nevarnost, bi moralo biti danes jasno večini.
o+ nevone
Problem v tej analogiji je samo, da zahod igra vlogo hitlerja, ko rine na ruske meje. Kdor podpira NATO, je na strani domobrancev (za udobje prodaja svobodo).
A guci guci...
Poldi112 ::
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
SmolWhale ::
A guci guci...
Zgolj iz firbca, katero "bee, bee" narečje je to?
Pusti ga, je z lazanje na beton padu..
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l0g1t3ch ::
nevone ::
Kdor podpira NATO, je na strani domobrancev (prodana duša, ki ignorira gospodarjeve zločine zavoljo ekonomskih interesov).
Kako se to razloži s strahom pred sankcijami iz Rusije?
o+ nevone
Either we will eat the Space or Space will eat us.
Pac-Man ::
Spravni in pripravljeni na boj
PS> Zgleda da se rusi le učijo. Zgleda da bodo zadnji modeli prišli v ukrajino že z demontirano kupolo
Poleti 2014 so iz Sibirije vozili T-64, da so se lahko pretvarjali, kako si jih rudarji zasegli Ukrajini. Ko jim je šlo najbolj za nohte celo z letali.
Dobra OSINT raziskava z začetka cele zgodbe:
https://censor.net/en/photo_news/316532...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
Kdor podpira NATO, je na strani domobrancev (prodana duša, ki ignorira gospodarjeve zločine zavoljo ekonomskih interesov).
Kako se to razloži s strahom pred sankcijami iz Rusije?
o+ nevone
Strahom? Zgolj pravim, da nimajo smisla, ker nam škodijo bolj kot njim, hkrati pa nimajo želenega vpliva.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
sparklyslo ::
Kdor je zdej na strani Rusov zaradi ekonomskih koristi oziroma neizgub, je na isti strani kot so bili domobranci med WW2, in če so na strani Rusije zato, ker se je bojijo, je to podobno kor so bili na strani Miloševiča oziroma so se ga vsaj malo bali v vojni za Slovenijo.
Da ni dobro podpirati neke samodržce, ki slej ko prej eskalirajo v neko vsesplošno nevarnost, bi moralo biti danes jasno večini.
o+ nevone
Problem v tej analogiji je samo, da zahod igra vlogo hitlerja, ko rine na ruske meje. Kdor podpira NATO, je na strani domobrancev (prodana duša, ki ignorira gospodarjeve zločine zavoljo ekonomskih interesov).
Po tej logiki, si ti na strani NATO domobrancev. Živiš v Sloveniji, ki je članica NATO in oborožuje Ukrajinsko vojsko z orožjem. Neposredno jo financiraš tudi ti, ker plačuješ davke (upam da jih). Zato kar hitro iz Slovenije, kjer ne maramo rosofilskih nacističnih ljubiteljev, ki zagovarjajo genocid nad civilisti.
Slovenci smo na referendumu izbrali EU in NATO in ne usrane Putlerske nacistične dežele. In tako bo tudi ostalo.
enemon ::
Fantje, nehite se no obkladat... Ne Ukrajincem in ne Rusom vaše navijaštvo ne bo pomagalo. 
@borut: si še v Zadru?
@borut: si še v Zadru?
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MojaDežela ::
MojaDežela je izjavil:
--Pride Chuck Norris v Moskvo in ker ne mara rusko vojsko jo uniči.
Nato gre v Kijev in ker ne mara ukrajinsko vojsko ... se raje preda.
hhah-uau -za to pa nisem vedel - super -
zdaj pa čaka klic diktatorja, da mu pomaga rusko vojsko skupaj pobrat raztroseno po UA in jo katapultira čez mejo!
fur80 ::
Kaj pravite na to?
Čini se da je došlo do potpunog preokreta Kremlja oko plaćanja ruskog plina
Čini se da je došlo do potpunog preokreta Kremlja oko toga kako će europske zemlje koje je Rusija proglasila neprijateljskima ubuduće plaćati ruski plin.
Glasnogovornik Kremlja Dmitrij Peskov, naime, kako prenosi ruska novinska agencija RIA, rekao je da će kupci plina i dalje taj plin plaćati u eurima kao i dosad.
"Istovremeno, finalno plaćanje će ići prodavaču Gazpromu u rubljima tako što će se ti euri pretvoriti u rublje. Ovo je još uvijek prototip sustava. Ali nemamo dvojbe da će u budućnosti biti primijenjen i na novu skupinu dobara i da će imati više prostora u našim trgovinskim relacijama", rekao je Peskov.
Peskov je još rekao kako "Rusija ne želi komplicirati živote svojim kupcima, pogotovo stoga što drži do svoje reputacije pouzdanog dobavljača".
Je verjetno res, da brez tega plina so gotovi, ne bi blo niti za plače v javnem sektorju, kaj šele za vojsko!? Kitajci in Indijci ne bodo dali kreditov? Sankcije naj bi začele delovat konec tega meseca, ter prihajajo nove! Putler do julija potem pa adijo, vislice, zapor ali penzija, kot sem napovedal, drugače se opravičim in posujem s pepelom! ;)
Čini se da je došlo do potpunog preokreta Kremlja oko plaćanja ruskog plina
Čini se da je došlo do potpunog preokreta Kremlja oko toga kako će europske zemlje koje je Rusija proglasila neprijateljskima ubuduće plaćati ruski plin.
Glasnogovornik Kremlja Dmitrij Peskov, naime, kako prenosi ruska novinska agencija RIA, rekao je da će kupci plina i dalje taj plin plaćati u eurima kao i dosad.
"Istovremeno, finalno plaćanje će ići prodavaču Gazpromu u rubljima tako što će se ti euri pretvoriti u rublje. Ovo je još uvijek prototip sustava. Ali nemamo dvojbe da će u budućnosti biti primijenjen i na novu skupinu dobara i da će imati više prostora u našim trgovinskim relacijama", rekao je Peskov.
Peskov je još rekao kako "Rusija ne želi komplicirati živote svojim kupcima, pogotovo stoga što drži do svoje reputacije pouzdanog dobavljača".
Je verjetno res, da brez tega plina so gotovi, ne bi blo niti za plače v javnem sektorju, kaj šele za vojsko!? Kitajci in Indijci ne bodo dali kreditov? Sankcije naj bi začele delovat konec tega meseca, ter prihajajo nove! Putler do julija potem pa adijo, vislice, zapor ali penzija, kot sem napovedal, drugače se opravičim in posujem s pepelom! ;)
tikitoki ::
Kdor podpira NATO, je na strani domobrancev (prodana duša, ki ignorira gospodarjeve zločine zavoljo ekonomskih interesov).
Kako se to razloži s strahom pred sankcijami iz Rusije?
o+ nevone
Strahom? Zgolj pravim, da nimajo smisla, ker nam škodijo bolj kot njim, hkrati pa nimajo želenega vpliva.
Odsel se na Kitajsko, tam bos manj glase, ker bos drugace pristal na prevzgoji.
fur80 ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
Kdor je zdej na strani Rusov zaradi ekonomskih koristi oziroma neizgub, je na isti strani kot so bili domobranci med WW2, in če so na strani Rusije zato, ker se je bojijo, je to podobno kor so bili na strani Miloševiča oziroma so se ga vsaj malo bali v vojni za Slovenijo.
Da ni dobro podpirati neke samodržce, ki slej ko prej eskalirajo v neko vsesplošno nevarnost, bi moralo biti danes jasno večini.
o+ nevone
Problem v tej analogiji je samo, da zahod igra vlogo hitlerja, ko rine na ruske meje. Kdor podpira NATO, je na strani domobrancev (prodana duša, ki ignorira gospodarjeve zločine zavoljo ekonomskih interesov).
Po tej logiki, si ti na strani NATO domobrancev. Živiš v Sloveniji, ki je članica NATO in oborožuje Ukrajinsko vojsko z orožjem. Neposredno jo financiraš tudi ti, ker plačuješ davke (upam da jih). Zato kar hitro iz Slovenije, kjer ne maramo rosofilskih nacističnih ljubiteljev, ki zagovarjajo genocid nad civilisti.
Slovenci smo na referendumu izbrali EU in NATO in ne usrane Putlerske nacistične dežele. In tako bo tudi ostalo.
Eni si pedstavljajo zavezništvo, da dokler je vse ok je ok, ko pa zagusti, pa adijo in se vidimo prihodnjič. Še pri poroki moraš rečt, da v dobrem in slabem, kaj šele tu, ko je zavezništvo namenjeno, da ko se dogaja slabo!
Kdor podpira NATO, je na strani domobrancev (prodana duša, ki ignorira gospodarjeve zločine zavoljo ekonomskih interesov).
Kako se to razloži s strahom pred sankcijami iz Rusije?
o+ nevone
Strahom? Zgolj pravim, da nimajo smisla, ker nam škodijo bolj kot njim, hkrati pa nimajo želenega vpliva.
Seveda imajo vpliv in bodo imele, najbolj v prihodnosti, kaj misliš, da Američani in EU nimajo svetovalcev in ekonistov?
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BlaY0 ::
Kaj pravite na to?
Čini se da je došlo do potpunog preokreta Kremlja oko plaćanja ruskog plina
Čini se da je došlo do potpunog preokreta Kremlja oko toga kako će europske zemlje koje je Rusija proglasila neprijateljskima ubuduće plaćati ruski plin.
Glasnogovornik Kremlja Dmitrij Peskov, naime, kako prenosi ruska novinska agencija RIA, rekao je da će kupci plina i dalje taj plin plaćati u eurima kao i dosad.
"Istovremeno, finalno plaćanje će ići prodavaču Gazpromu u rubljima tako što će se ti euri pretvoriti u rublje. Ovo je još uvijek prototip sustava. Ali nemamo dvojbe da će u budućnosti biti primijenjen i na novu skupinu dobara i da će imati više prostora u našim trgovinskim relacijama", rekao je Peskov.
Peskov je još rekao kako "Rusija ne želi komplicirati živote svojim kupcima, pogotovo stoga što drži do svoje reputacije pouzdanog dobavljača".
Je verjetno res, da brez tega plina so gotovi, ne bi blo niti za plače v javnem sektorju, kaj šele za vojsko!? Kitajci in Indijci ne bodo dali kreditov? Sankcije naj bi začele delovat konec tega meseca, ter prihajajo nove! Putler do julija potem pa adijo, vislice, zapor ali penzija, kot sem napovedal, drugače se opravičim in posujem s pepelom! ;)
Putinov blef se ni izšel. Spominja na Trumpov: "Mehika bo plačala zid."...
jernejl ::
Strahom? Zgolj pravim, da nimajo smisla, ker nam škodijo bolj kot njim, hkrati pa nimajo želenega vpliva.
Seveda imajo sankcije želen vpliv in seveda je še kako smiselno ekonomsko in vojaško izčrpavanje klavca civilistov. V resnici je nemogoče, da bi tovrstne sankcije lahko bile za nas škodljive.
Naša gospodarska rast bo morda za kako odstotno točko nižja, v zameno za to si pa lahko obetamo, da nas ruska vojska ne bo v bližnji prihodnosti poklala. Še več: ko bodo rusi dokončno na tleh, je smiselno, da jim kot poražencem zaračunamo tudi vse stroške te njihove morije.
Meni se zdi to super.
MojaDežela ::
Kaj pravite na to?
Čini se da je došlo do potpunog preokreta Kremlja oko plaćanja ruskog plina
Čini se da je došlo do potpunog preokreta Kremlja oko toga kako će europske zemlje koje je Rusija proglasila neprijateljskima ubuduće plaćati ruski plin.
Glasnogovornik Kremlja Dmitrij Peskov, naime, kako prenosi ruska novinska agencija RIA, rekao je da će kupci plina i dalje taj plin plaćati u eurima kao i dosad.
"Istovremeno, finalno plaćanje će ići prodavaču Gazpromu u rubljima tako što će se ti euri pretvoriti u rublje. Ovo je još uvijek prototip sustava. Ali nemamo dvojbe da će u budućnosti biti primijenjen i na novu skupinu dobara i da će imati više prostora u našim trgovinskim relacijama", rekao je Peskov.
Peskov je još rekao kako "Rusija ne želi komplicirati živote svojim kupcima, pogotovo stoga što drži do svoje reputacije pouzdanog dobavljača".
Je verjetno res, da brez tega plina so gotovi, ne bi blo niti za plače v javnem sektorju, kaj šele za vojsko!? Kitajci in Indijci ne bodo dali kreditov? Sankcije naj bi začele delovat konec tega meseca, ter prihajajo nove! Putler do julija potem pa adijo, vislice, zapor ali penzija, kot sem napovedal, drugače se opravičim in posujem s pepelom! ;)
pa to je dokaz da je diktator zblaznel - pa najprej grožnja z onim potem s tistim nato z plinom - tip je monstrum....ko bo vido ob koncu njegove akcije koliko je "pobil" civilistov in svojih voakov se bo (upam) sam fental.
Poldi112 ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
Zato kar hitro iz Slovenije, kjer ne maramo rosofilskih nacističnih ljubiteljev, ki zagovarjajo genocid nad civilisti.
Odsel se na Kitajsko, tam bos manj glase, ker bos drugace pristal na prevzgoji.
Ja, ovce ste zaljublene v enoumje uradne propagande in bi izselile vse, ki bi si drznili izpostavljati očitne neumnosti v uradnih pravlicah.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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Pac-Man ::
Grem zdaj čez tvitr feed, pripravite se :)
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
@hrw is interviewing witnesses and documenting clear, indisputable cases of war crimes committed by the Russian army.
These include summary executions of civilians, incl. at-gun-point killing women and children, system rapes, looting of civilian property.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukr...
Because of the systemic nature of these crimes, future war crime investigations will undoubtedly indict the soldiers' commanders and very likely the commander in chief.
See Milosevic's 66 counts of war crimes & crimes against humanity.
to
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1...
Putin and Zelensky are highly likely to meet in Turkey to discuss draft peace deal, Interfax-Ukraine says, citing Ukrainian negotiator
in to
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/15...
If this goes the same way the rest of the war has, Russia will try to do a Red Wedding but accidentally kill Putin and Lavrov
Operation ы: Chepiga accidentally drops a chandelier on Putin and Mishkin poisons the wrong tea.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
@hrw is interviewing witnesses and documenting clear, indisputable cases of war crimes committed by the Russian army.
These include summary executions of civilians, incl. at-gun-point killing women and children, system rapes, looting of civilian property.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukr...
Because of the systemic nature of these crimes, future war crime investigations will undoubtedly indict the soldiers' commanders and very likely the commander in chief.
See Milosevic's 66 counts of war crimes & crimes against humanity.
to
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1...
Putin and Zelensky are highly likely to meet in Turkey to discuss draft peace deal, Interfax-Ukraine says, citing Ukrainian negotiator
in to
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/15...
If this goes the same way the rest of the war has, Russia will try to do a Red Wedding but accidentally kill Putin and Lavrov
Operation ы: Chepiga accidentally drops a chandelier on Putin and Mishkin poisons the wrong tea.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
MojaDežela ::
Kdor podpira NATO, je na strani domobrancev (prodana duša, ki ignorira gospodarjeve zločine zavoljo ekonomskih interesov).
Kako se to razloži s strahom pred sankcijami iz Rusije?
o+ nevone
Strahom? Zgolj pravim, da nimajo smisla, ker nam škodijo bolj kot njim, hkrati pa nimajo želenega vpliva.
Odsel se na Kitajsko, tam bos manj glase, ker bos drugace pristal na prevzgoji.
-- kam smo prišli? NATO&DOMOBRANCI?! ojoj, res rabimo volitve, ker nekterim streha pušča.
l0g1t3ch ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
Zato kar hitro iz Slovenije, kjer ne maramo rosofilskih nacističnih ljubiteljev, ki zagovarjajo genocid nad civilisti.
Ja, ovce ste zaljublene v enoumje uradne propagande in bi izselile vse, ki bi si drznili izpostavljati očitne neumnosti v uradnih pravlicah.
Bee bee...
Dvignil je desni kazalec: "Odprite na telefonu kakšno novičarsko stran … Katerokoli …"
Pokazal sem mu Guardian.
"Aha," je rekel, "in kaj piše?"
"Da je Rusija napadla Ukrajino …"
"Cccc," je odkimal, "to je propaganda. Temu vi, ovce, verjamete. A tu, na tem mestu, se začenja delo raziskovalca."
Dvignil je svoj telefon, nekaj vtipkal in ga obrnil proti meni: "In kaj tu piše?"
"Da je Ukrajina napadla Rusijo!"
"No, vidite! Resnica vam ne pade sama v naročje, potruditi se morate zanjo! Raziskovati morate!"
"Ampak, oprostite … Saj to vašo stran poznam. Srbska stran, podaljšek ruske propagande!"
"KAJ? To ni propaganda, to je RESNICA!"
"Kako to mislite? Seveda obstaja zahodna propaganda, a obstaja tudi ruska in kitajska in …"
"NE! Vi boste za vedno ostali OVCA! Ne prepoznate resnice niti, ko vam jo pokažem!"
To je tvoj modu operandi.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
As noticed by many Ukrainians, Kadyrov made the #Moscow4 blunder to publish a video showing SOBR Spetsnaz delivering what he said was Russian humanitarian aid to Mariupol residents.
The video in fact showed Kadyrovites give people obviously looted Ukrainian products.
Clearly visible in the video the Ukrainian label for flour (Борошно), definitely hard to get in Grozny where he said the aid came from.
Many other Ukrainian labels visible too. The video has since been deleted and replaced with one where mostly water is visible
https://twitter.com/RicoWarrior26/statu...
Kiev pasta
As noticed by many Ukrainians, Kadyrov made the #Moscow4 blunder to publish a video showing SOBR Spetsnaz delivering what he said was Russian humanitarian aid to Mariupol residents.
The video in fact showed Kadyrovites give people obviously looted Ukrainian products.
Clearly visible in the video the Ukrainian label for flour (Борошно), definitely hard to get in Grozny where he said the aid came from.
Many other Ukrainian labels visible too. The video has since been deleted and replaced with one where mostly water is visible
https://twitter.com/RicoWarrior26/statu...
Kiev pasta
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Stikalo ::
Stikalo ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
Lepa :)
ravno danes sem enga srečal na prazvonaju. Neverjetno, kako te pro ruske fore operejo možgane. Zanimivo da te ruske oslarije tako potegnejo. Najprej je začel pametovati kako se so na krimi na referendumu odločilu z 90% da se priklučijo rusiji haha. Ja s puško v ustih :D
Bodo naredili sedaj v teh obleganih mestih rusi referendum, bo takoj 90% udeležba in 90% za prikučitev h rusiji čeprav je vse prazno in pobito :D
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status...
A haunting image of a woman killed by Russians in Irpin. Keys of her house next to her body, with the EU flag on a keychain
https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status...
Mass grave in #Bucha, where apparently 280 people are buried. It appeared because Russians occupied the area around cemetery and morgue, locals say.
There were so many bodies and they needed to be buried somewhere. Two rows: one for Russians, the other Ukrainian civilians.
I could not verify 280. I saw maybe 30 body bags. Important to emphasise is that this is not some killing field as some have reported.
I did see evidence of executions elsewhere, however. More later
*30 body bags in open part of mass grave. I should have made that clearer. I’m not disputing the 280 figure, just that I could not verify it.
A haunting image of a woman killed by Russians in Irpin. Keys of her house next to her body, with the EU flag on a keychain
https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status...
Mass grave in #Bucha, where apparently 280 people are buried. It appeared because Russians occupied the area around cemetery and morgue, locals say.
There were so many bodies and they needed to be buried somewhere. Two rows: one for Russians, the other Ukrainian civilians.
I did see evidence of executions elsewhere, however. More later
*30 body bags in open part of mass grave. I should have made that clearer. I’m not disputing the 280 figure, just that I could not verify it.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Pac-Man ::
Video pokopa v zgornje grobišče. Zna bit res 280...
https://twitter.com/TkFAiQH6UGKvBVp/sta...
Ukraine 🇺🇦Bucha. Genocide by Muscovites of the Ukrainian people ...
https://twitter.com/TkFAiQH6UGKvBVp/sta...
Ukraine 🇺🇦Bucha. Genocide by Muscovites of the Ukrainian people ...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Stikalo ::
lej te proruske bedake:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/commen...
v rusiji naj maha z ukrajinsko zastavo, gre v keho in ne pride več ven :D
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/commen...
v rusiji naj maha z ukrajinsko zastavo, gre v keho in ne pride več ven :D
Pac-Man ::
Na povezavi sekundo dolg video na hrbtu zvezanih rok z lepilnim trakom
https://twitter.com/scribblercat/status...
Back from Bucha. Russias’s denials are absurd. Shelling victims don’t have their hands tied behind their backs and gunshots to the head.
Surrounded by Russian ration packs, garbage and empty booze bottles. They haven’t usually had their shoes stolen either.
The Ostrovsky z ruske rulete v Ukrajini pri Vice News
https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/stat...
One of the mass graves in Bucha. We saw civilians’ bodies littered in the streets and dumped behind buildings. Most with gunshot wounds to the head.
Some with their hands tied behind their backs. Evidence of war crimes that took place during the Russian occupation of the town.
https://twitter.com/scribblercat/status...
Back from Bucha. Russias’s denials are absurd. Shelling victims don’t have their hands tied behind their backs and gunshots to the head.
Surrounded by Russian ration packs, garbage and empty booze bottles. They haven’t usually had their shoes stolen either.
The Ostrovsky z ruske rulete v Ukrajini pri Vice News
https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/stat...
One of the mass graves in Bucha. We saw civilians’ bodies littered in the streets and dumped behind buildings. Most with gunshot wounds to the head.
Some with their hands tied behind their backs. Evidence of war crimes that took place during the Russian occupation of the town.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
The bodies of 410 civilians have been recovered, so far, from towns immediately outside Kyiv, following the withdrawal of Russian occupiers, says Ukraine’s attorney general.
Big investigative effort underway to gather evidence against perpetrators.
https://facebook.com/VenediktovaIryna/p...
https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status...
I note that Russia now suggesting Ukrainians did #Bucha executions themselves after Russian r etreat. There’s one reason why this can’t be true.
The smell of the decomposing bodies. You simply don’t get such a strong odour after few days in v cold (near or sub zero) temperatures
27. feb:
https://twitter.com/nicholadrummond/sta...
A Ukrainian friend living in Kyiv has just messaged me via Instagram to tell me that Russian soldiers in Bucha on the outskirts of the city are now entering civilian homes and shooting anyone they find inside.
Thousands of innocent people are trapped in the city with no way out. We knew it was going to get ugly and now it is.
Tragically, we are going to see war crimes and possibly genocide committed as an increasingly desperate invasion force tries to secure its objectives.
The bodies of 410 civilians have been recovered, so far, from towns immediately outside Kyiv, following the withdrawal of Russian occupiers, says Ukraine’s attorney general.
Big investigative effort underway to gather evidence against perpetrators.
https://facebook.com/VenediktovaIryna/p...
https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status...
I note that Russia now suggesting Ukrainians did #Bucha executions themselves after Russian r etreat. There’s one reason why this can’t be true.
The smell of the decomposing bodies. You simply don’t get such a strong odour after few days in v cold (near or sub zero) temperatures
27. feb:
https://twitter.com/nicholadrummond/sta...
A Ukrainian friend living in Kyiv has just messaged me via Instagram to tell me that Russian soldiers in Bucha on the outskirts of the city are now entering civilian homes and shooting anyone they find inside.
Thousands of innocent people are trapped in the city with no way out. We knew it was going to get ugly and now it is.
Tragically, we are going to see war crimes and possibly genocide committed as an increasingly desperate invasion force tries to secure its objectives.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
MojaDežela ::
to bo na koncu koncev ožigosano kot ponovitev srebrenice 95 na ukrajinski zemlji - kaj je to dela evropska ruska zombivojska leta 2022?!
dedek pokošen na kolesu in nekateri v tilnik - pa to delajo pošasti ki sami rabijo metek v....
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dedek pokošen na kolesu in nekateri v tilnik - pa to delajo pošasti ki sami rabijo metek v....
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WizzardOfOZ ::
War. War never changes.
Milčinski je napisal butalce kot prispodobo in ne kot priročnik!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/151...
...
And lastly, both civilians claimed to have been alive in those two videos have also been photographed by Sergei Supinsky. Photos of their bodies are available via AFP and Getty Images.
Do they look alive to you?
Rusijo daje panika
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/15106...
“My passion is graphic design, and violating the Geneva Conventions”
https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1...
Tudi
video na povezavi
https://twitter.com/2022Kharkiv/status/...
Video appearing to show Russian soldiers at site where bound civilian corpses were found in #Bucha yesterday. Recording date indicated as 25.03.22
25.03 video filmed across a new roundabout towards building site where one male is kneeling, surrounded by armed figures with white armbands.
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status...
Cope Strela-1
Russian forces must have been worried about Ukrainian drones overhead if they were making decoy air defense systems.
...
And lastly, both civilians claimed to have been alive in those two videos have also been photographed by Sergei Supinsky. Photos of their bodies are available via AFP and Getty Images.
Do they look alive to you?
Rusijo daje panika
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/15106...
“My passion is graphic design, and violating the Geneva Conventions”
https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1...
Tudi
video na povezavi
https://twitter.com/2022Kharkiv/status/...
Video appearing to show Russian soldiers at site where bound civilian corpses were found in #Bucha yesterday. Recording date indicated as 25.03.22
25.03 video filmed across a new roundabout towards building site where one male is kneeling, surrounded by armed figures with white armbands.
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status...
Cope Strela-1
Russian forces must have been worried about Ukrainian drones overhead if they were making decoy air defense systems.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Pac-Man ::
članek na povezavi
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/15107...
Our piece on the atrocities being revealed around Kyiv, which includes powerful reporting from @timjudah1 and @olliecarroll on the ground.
The actions described here by eyewitnesses would undoubtedly amount to war crimes.
“The Economist was able to verify reports of what appear to be summary executions. Nine bodies lay at the side of a builder's yard, and another two on the road…All had puncture wounds to the head, chest or both. At least two of the bodies had their hands tied behind their backs”
“From the smell of the decomposing bodies, they had been there for some time–giving the lie to Russian claims that the killings were carried out by Ukraine, which liberated Bucha on April 1st”
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/15107...
Our piece on the atrocities being revealed around Kyiv, which includes powerful reporting from @timjudah1 and @olliecarroll on the ground.
The actions described here by eyewitnesses would undoubtedly amount to war crimes.
“The Economist was able to verify reports of what appear to be summary executions. Nine bodies lay at the side of a builder's yard, and another two on the road…All had puncture wounds to the head, chest or both. At least two of the bodies had their hands tied behind their backs”
“From the smell of the decomposing bodies, they had been there for some time–giving the lie to Russian claims that the killings were carried out by Ukraine, which liberated Bucha on April 1st”
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
DarwiN ::
Vprašanje, koliko ur bo potrebovala ruska propaganda, da bodo sproducirali "dokaze", da so poboj cilistov v resnici zagrešili Ukrajinci, da bi očrnili rusko vojsko... Ali pa denimo, da so to v resnici mrtvi ukrajinski vojaki, ki so jih po smrti oblekli v civiliste in zrežirali te grozljive fotografije..
Skratka, v ozadju so milijoni teh motherfuckerjev, ki skrbijo za produkcijo laži in dezinformacij. In potem tiste najbolj prepričljive teorije priplavajo na površje, nakar jih rusofili razširijo po celem spletu.
Skratka, v ozadju so milijoni teh motherfuckerjev, ki skrbijo za produkcijo laži in dezinformacij. In potem tiste najbolj prepričljive teorije priplavajo na površje, nakar jih rusofili razširijo po celem spletu.
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
Pac-Man ::
Zdaj so zgleda zaštartali časopisi. NYT:
https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status...
The coroner in Bucha said he had just picked up 30 bodies. 13 were civilians, with hands tied, shot execution-style.
He found 8 bodies in a courtyard of a house and 5 in a basement. “Look, that one was shot in the eye,” he said.
The coroner in Bucha said his team had collected more than 100 bodies.
Without electricity for refrigeration, the morgue was intolerable. “It was a horror,” he said.
The mass grave filled up with 40 bodies of people who died during the Russian occupation.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/03...
https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status...
Hey @mtracey, I’ll cover your roundtrip airfare and accommodations on the ground if you’ll join me to Bucha for several days.
Only catch, you have to interview people on camera about what happened there. This is not a joke. Yes or no?
People are now messaging me who are equally serious about throwing money toward this.
For someone like @mtracey who has no shortage of words dribbling out of his mouth, I’m surprised how long it’s taking for a simple “yes” or “no”
So že v akciji, ampak gre po scenariju MH17/Sirije. S spleta pobirajo teorije zarot in jih bodo predstavili na ZN.
Debunk nit:
https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/151...
https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status...
The coroner in Bucha said he had just picked up 30 bodies. 13 were civilians, with hands tied, shot execution-style.
He found 8 bodies in a courtyard of a house and 5 in a basement. “Look, that one was shot in the eye,” he said.
The coroner in Bucha said his team had collected more than 100 bodies.
Without electricity for refrigeration, the morgue was intolerable. “It was a horror,” he said.
The mass grave filled up with 40 bodies of people who died during the Russian occupation.
https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status...
Hey @mtracey, I’ll cover your roundtrip airfare and accommodations on the ground if you’ll join me to Bucha for several days.
Only catch, you have to interview people on camera about what happened there. This is not a joke. Yes or no?
People are now messaging me who are equally serious about throwing money toward this.
For someone like @mtracey who has no shortage of words dribbling out of his mouth, I’m surprised how long it’s taking for a simple “yes” or “no”
Vprašanje, koliko ur bo potrebovala ruska propaganda, da bodo sproducirali "dokaze", da so poboj cilistov v resnici zagrešili Ukrajinci, da bi očrnili rusko vojsko...
So že v akciji, ampak gre po scenariju MH17/Sirije. S spleta pobirajo teorije zarot in jih bodo predstavili na ZN.
Debunk nit:
https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/151...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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bbbbbb2015 ::
MojaDežela je izjavil:
to bo na koncu koncev ožigosano kot ponovitev srebrenice 95 na ukrajinski zemlji - kaj je to dela evropska ruska zombivojska leta 2022?!
MojaDežela je izjavil:
to bo na koncu koncev ožigosano kot ponovitev srebrenice 95 na ukrajinski zemlji - kaj je to dela evropska ruska zombivojska leta 2022?!
dedek pokošen na kolesu in nekateri v tilnik - pa to delajo pošasti ki sami rabijo metek v....
Samo počasi. Najprej Srebrenica.
Srebrenica je bila prodana kot masakr Srbov nad Bosanci - natančneje bosanskimi moškimi. Manjka kontekst.
Kontekst takrat pa je bil, da je bosanska vojska, v naglici sestavljena napadla položaje bosanskih Srbov. Bosanski srbi so imeli pomoč srbskih prostovoljcev in "vikend" vojakov JNA (takih ki so bili vojaki v Srbiji in so se šli čez vikende/dopuste borit v Bosno).
Bosanci so se umaknili in izginili v Srebrenico, ter se pomešali med ljudi. To je bila v glavnem neregularna vojska po današnjih merilih (uniforma, insignija). Srbi so obkolili in zasedli mesto. Ker niso mogli ugotoviti, kdo so bili borci, so indiskiminatorno pobili vse, za katere so na kakšen koli način menili, da so bosanski vojaki.
Če sem odkrit, Rusi so v 2. čečeski vojni naredili enako. Vse moške, ki so jih ustavili, ter je bilo najmanjše znamenje, da bi moški lahko bil vojak, so ga ustrelili brez vprašanj. Znamenja so bila poškodbe po rokah od streljanja, ožganine, vojaški čevlji, sledi oprtnic na srajci, vojaški opasač, v žepih najdeno strelivo ali karkoli, kar je nakazovalo, da je oseba ravnala z orožjem.
Saj isto sodelali partizani, ko so zajeli mladeniče, ki so pomagali beli gardi (prenos pošte).
Američani so počeli natanko isto v Iraku, ter Afganistanu.
Zakaj so bili ti ljudje pobiti, se ne ve. So pričevanja Ukrajincev, da so se moški morali odločiti, da se bodo bodisi borili bodisi šli in se skrili v klet.
Bil je posnetek, ko se je starejši par peljal vštric s kolono oklepnih vozil in ga je en BTR sesul s 30mm avtomatskim topom. Že tasm sem komentiral, da če bi bil jaz vojak, bi naredil natanko enako. Kaj se ima en avto vštric voziti s tankovsko kolono? Lahko se me loti z RPG, lahko je spotter, marsikaj je lahko.
Tak da jaz ne bi prehitro skakal. Zapomnite si, da neregularnim vojakom (brez uniforme, brez insignij) ne pripadajo nobene pravice. Tretirajo se kot vohuni.
Torej, hoditi na spregled vojakom, ki so lačni, brez nekih ciljnih ukazov, je velika napaka.
Pomeni pa to (zame vsaj), da ko pride vojna, se je treba odločiti za stran in vzeti puško v roke. Ni neke srednje poti, kao ne iti k vojakom, malo kibicirati ali se skrivati po vasi.
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WizzardOfOZ ::
V vsaki vojni nastradajo najbolj civilisti. Zato je pa vojne treba za vsako ceno preprečiti. Pa upam, da je to dobra šola, da se začne vse države, ki napadajo druge države, sankcionirat, ker taki pomori se namreč dogajajo v vseh vojnah.
Milčinski je napisal butalce kot prispodobo in ne kot priročnik!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/AlexandruC4/status/...
Unconfirmed reports that #Russian frigate "Admiral Essen" was hit by #Ukrainian Neptune cruise missile
Russian frigate Admiral Essen @ Wikipedia
Neptune (cruise missile) @ Wikipedia
Unconfirmed reports that #Russian frigate "Admiral Essen" was hit by #Ukrainian Neptune cruise missile
Neptune (cruise missile) @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
PacificBlue ::
Tole naselje Bucha je čisto zraven letališča Hostomel, kjer so bili že od začetka vojne hudi spopadi.
Vsak normalen človek bi že zdavnaj pobegnil od tam.
Vsak normalen človek bi že zdavnaj pobegnil od tam.
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WizzardOfOZ ::
niso imeli kam pobegnit, ko se je obroč zaprl okoli njih.
Milčinski je napisal butalce kot prispodobo in ne kot priročnik!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Pac-Man ::
Video:
https://twitter.com/BowenBBC/status/151...
Desperately sad story from just outside Kyiv, about a woman called Iryna whose son was killed by Russian soldiers.
We were the first outsiders she'd seen since the Russians left her village on Friday.
Shot and edited by @leedurant. Produced by @producerkathy
Je to nacizem? Če je, ga Rusija izvaža, kot ZDA demokracijo?
https://twitter.com/lesiavasylenko/stat...
Tortured body of a raped and killed woman. I’m speechless. My@mind is paralyzed with anger and fear and hatred. #StopGenocide #StopPutinNOW
https://twitter.com/BowenBBC/status/151...
Desperately sad story from just outside Kyiv, about a woman called Iryna whose son was killed by Russian soldiers.
We were the first outsiders she'd seen since the Russians left her village on Friday.
Shot and edited by @leedurant. Produced by @producerkathy
Je to nacizem? Če je, ga Rusija izvaža, kot ZDA demokracijo?
https://twitter.com/lesiavasylenko/stat...
Tortured body of a raped and killed woman. I’m speechless. My@mind is paralyzed with anger and fear and hatred. #StopGenocide #StopPutinNOW
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
BorutO ::
IL_DIAVOLO je izjavil:
Zelenski se kar iz varnega zavetja bodri civiliste, naj bodo močni?
To ni še nič .. Tvoj Putler pa iz najbolj varnega zavetja globoko pod zemljo bodri svoje vojake, naj še kar naprej koljejo in uničujejo vse povrsti ...
coffeetime12 ::
Diskont Aldi bo od ponedeljka 4.1. zvišal cene za številne izdelke. Po podatkih skupine s sedežem v Essnu so prizadeti izdelki meso, klobase in maslo. Cene teh izdelkov naj bi od ponedeljka "znatno narasle", je za uredniško mrežo Nemčija (RND) povedal tiskovni predstavnik Aldi Nord. Kot razlog so v podjetju navedli višje odkupne cene. Aldi Süd podražitev ni želel potrditi.
V intervjuju za RND je tiskovni predstavnik Aldi Nord povišanje cen utemeljil s tem, da so od začetka vojne v Ukrajini stroški za gnojila in živalsko krmo narasli v nebo. Poleg tega so se močno zvišale cene elektrike in plina. Zvišane cene bi prizadele predvsem kmete z živinorejo in mesno industrijo. Pri klobasah in mesu je podražitev tudi posledica energetsko intenzivnih klavnic.
Dobavitelji se čutijo prisiljeni, da višje stroške prenesejo na potrošnike, pravijo s sedeža Aldija. "Bolj ko je izdelek intenziven z energijo in gnojili, dražji postane."
V intervjuju za RND je tiskovni predstavnik Aldi Nord povišanje cen utemeljil s tem, da so od začetka vojne v Ukrajini stroški za gnojila in živalsko krmo narasli v nebo. Poleg tega so se močno zvišale cene elektrike in plina. Zvišane cene bi prizadele predvsem kmete z živinorejo in mesno industrijo. Pri klobasah in mesu je podražitev tudi posledica energetsko intenzivnih klavnic.
Dobavitelji se čutijo prisiljeni, da višje stroške prenesejo na potrošnike, pravijo s sedeža Aldija. "Bolj ko je izdelek intenziven z energijo in gnojili, dražji postane."
