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Ukrajina Part II
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TezkoDihanje ::
PacificBlue je izjavil:
Resno mislite, da se geopolitika odvija spontano? Za vse ideologije ni prostora v tem globalnem svetu. Konec koncev bo prišlo do uničenja ene ali druge strani. Stari svet se podira. Potrebno bo zgraditi novega.
Ne pametuj, ker nimaš blagega pojma o stvari. Haluciniraj v kakšni drugi temi.
FilipF ::
No, ja ... mogoče res za kitajsko ... glede na to, da so američani oz. kar cel svet, v teh dneh opazili, kako nesposobno vojsko imajo rusi. Prav sramota za tako mogočno "velesilo" ... Od ukrajine naprej več nobena država ne bo jemala resno putinove grožnje ... razen ko bo spet omenil atomske bombe, ker to je edino, kar imajo rusi v redu za orožje.
Glede na politiko EU, hočemo videti tudi ali delujejo Ruske atomske bombe. Upam, da ne delajo.
To kar se trenutno dogaja kak pacient res lahko razume kot vojno napoved! Kaj si ti nor s temi sankcijami...je kdo povedal do kdaj trajanje? Do konca vojne? 10 let? v nedogled?
Trobila Kitajske KP namigujejo, da naj bi EU 2023 bankrotirala. 2024 naj bi se priključili Rusiji, Kitajci pa sanirajo gospodarstvo. Sicer samo ena od projekcij KPK.
Nek povzetek dobiš v tem trobilu https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/...
Pri vseh teh dezinformacijah si je težko ustvariti neko realno sliko. Če spremljaš nek dogodek v zahodnih, Ruslih in Kitajskih trobilih največkrat misliš, da so bili to trije različni dogodki. Upajmo na najboljše.
Hypathia ::
JUST IN - EU will supply fighter jets to Ukraine: Borrel
Tole je po mojem mnenju nepotrebno. Ukrajina ne rabi bojnih letal, povsem nespametna poteza po mojem mnenju. Bi bilo bolje da bi dobili kakšne protiletalske rakete in tanke.
Ne, ne, treba je dati jasen signal, da se bo neodvisno Ukrajino ubranilo, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
If you're a man, don't say anything
to a woman on the street that you wouldn't
want a man saying to you in prison.
to a woman on the street that you wouldn't
want a man saying to you in prison.
Hypathia ::
Zakaj? Kako bodo pa drugače razbili obroč okoli Kijeva?
If you're a man, don't say anything
to a woman on the street that you wouldn't
want a man saying to you in prison.
to a woman on the street that you wouldn't
want a man saying to you in prison.
Chalky ::
JUST IN - EU will supply fighter jets to Ukraine: Borrel
Tole je po mojem mnenju nepotrebno. Ukrajina ne rabi bojnih letal, povsem nespametna poteza po mojem mnenju. Bi bilo bolje da bi dobili kakšne protiletalske rakete in tanke.
Ne, ne, treba je dati jasen signal, da se bo neodvisno Ukrajino ubranilo, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
Iz vojaškega kota ta poteza nima nobene logike, Ukrajinci nimajo nobenih izkušenj s takšnimi bojnimi letali, poleg tega bi bilo bolj pametno da se jim dostavi proti letalske rakete in drone in tanke, če že počnejo takšne stvari. Bojna letala so nesmiselna.
carovnik1900 ::
JUST IN - EU will supply fighter jets to Ukraine: Borrel
Tole je po mojem mnenju nepotrebno. Ukrajina ne rabi bojnih letal, povsem nespametna poteza po mojem mnenju. Bi bilo bolje da bi dobili kakšne protiletalske rakete in tanke.
Ne, ne, treba je dati jasen signal, da se bo neodvisno Ukrajino ubranilo, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
ma daj pojdi v luknjo vojni hujskač. tam kjer spadaš
Chalky ::
Unilseptij ::
Hehe, seveda je neumnost dajati orožje eni od strani v vojni... pri čemer se nekako delamo, da NATO vseeno ni udeležen v dogajanju... tako kot tudi to, kar NATO počne z Ukrajino že desetletje in več... No, pogajanja so se začela, predvidevam, da bo končni sporazum vseboval demilitarizacijo Ukrajine in zavezo, da ne vstopi v NATO... mogoče celo ideja o nevtralnosti lahko zaživi.
Motion ::
Najbrš jim bodo dali kake mige 29 in suhoje iz bivših varšavskih držav. Katere države v evropi jih še majo na lagerju in da so operativna?
Hypathia ::
JUST IN - EU will supply fighter jets to Ukraine: Borrel
Tole je po mojem mnenju nepotrebno. Ukrajina ne rabi bojnih letal, povsem nespametna poteza po mojem mnenju. Bi bilo bolje da bi dobili kakšne protiletalske rakete in tanke.
Ne, ne, treba je dati jasen signal, da se bo neodvisno Ukrajino ubranilo, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
Iz vojaškega kota ta poteza nima nobene logike, Ukrajinci nimajo nobenih izkušenj s takšnimi bojnimi letali, poleg tega bi bilo bolj pametno da se jim dostavi proti letalske rakete in drone in tanke, če že počnejo takšne stvari. Bojna letala so nesmiselna.
Kdo pa pravi, da jih morajo pilotirati Ukrajinci, saj so piloti tudi lahko tuji legionarji, ali ne? Naj dajo ukrajinsko zastavo na Nato letala, pa gremo.
If you're a man, don't say anything
to a woman on the street that you wouldn't
want a man saying to you in prison.
to a woman on the street that you wouldn't
want a man saying to you in prison.
Chalky ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/14980294...
EU countries will provide 'fighter jets' to Ukraine under Brussels funding: Borrell
what the hell...
Ja popolnoma nelogično in neumno početje. Prav tako izredno nevarno.
PacificBlue ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
PacificBlue je izjavil:
Resno mislite, da se geopolitika odvija spontano? Za vse ideologije ni prostora v tem globalnem svetu. Konec koncev bo prišlo do uničenja ene ali druge strani. Stari svet se podira. Potrebno bo zgraditi novega.
Ne pametuj, ker nimaš blagega pojma o stvari. Haluciniraj v kakšni drugi temi.
Strah te je in nesiguren si, samo si nočeš priznat. Glede na to, da si si moral ustvarit profil pred dvema dnevoma samo potrjuje moje domneve.
fur80 ::
Upam, da nam je vsem jasno, da smo v vojni z Rusijo! To kar so sprejele dražve po svetu in Slovenija je vojna napoved Rusiji in smo vsi na tej strani nišana Rusom, pa če smo za njih ali proti njim! Tako, da tisti ki pravijo, da se Rusi borijo le za svoj narod, to sploh ni več važno, mogoče je bilo 10 dni nazaj! Upajmo na najboljše!
Glede na sprejete ukrepe, hujskanje in pošiljke orožja imam tudi jst občutek, da se je začela WW3... To kar počne EU je praktično vojna napoved!
Pustili bi Rusijo in Ukrajino na miru, pa naj zmaga najmočnejši. Ukrajina ni ne v EU ne v Natu, venomer poudarja, kako je neodvisna, super. Naj se potem tudi neodvisno brani, ne pa da je cel svet zdaj vpleten v to sranje.
Sem tudi sam mislil, da bo Putin zaščitil svojo manjšino tam, v Kijevu so mi rekli domačini, da to niti ni del Ukrajine že dolgo, po moje se niti niso toliko sekrirali za ta del razen politike. Sedaj smo pa v totalnem dreku, ni več za Rusijo ali proti Rusiji... smo na drugi strani, pa če nam je prav ali ne, tako da začet razmišljat kako jih premagat ali onesposobit,da naredijo čimanj neumnosti.
genesiss ::
BREAKING: NORWAY'S $1.3 TRILLION SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUND, THE WORLD'S BIGGEST, WILL START SELLING OUT OF INVESTMENTS IN RUSSIA.
ALL FRENCH NATIONALS SHOULD LEAVE RUSSIA IMMEDIATELY, ACCORDING TO THE FRENCH FOREIGN MINISTRY.
ALL FRENCH NATIONALS SHOULD LEAVE RUSSIA IMMEDIATELY, ACCORDING TO THE FRENCH FOREIGN MINISTRY.
Pac-Man ::
Ruska (geo)politična žajfnica
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/...
...
His successor Shoygu knew better than that. Now who's Shoygu? Shoygu is the *only* single Russian minister who uninterruptedly worked in government since 1991, since the very beginning of Russian Federation. He worked for all presidents, all prime ministers avoided all purges
What does it mean? It means he's a cunning political entrepreneur, great in court politics, publicity, image. You survive every single administration by maxing your political survival. And to max it you need to minimise animosity. So you never object to powerful interest groups
...
That's a very, very typical problem. Efficiency-maxing requires ruthlessness in dealing with established elites and interest groups. Meanwhile court-politics-maxing requires pondering to them and not making enemies. Serdyukov was maxing efficiency, Shoygu - court politics
...
And Russia is PR-maxing. Putin declared that the share of new ships should reach 70% by 2027. Old Soviet ships are becoming obsolete, Russia's building new ones. BUT. Major Soviet shipyards are located in Ukraine. So now Russia expands shipyard infrastructure to reach this goal
Soviet naval legacy is a curse of Russian military. USSR could afford ocean fleets with carrier strike group. Russia can't. But abandoning Soviet ambitions would require suppressing their own hubris (impossible). So they strive to maintain it. Ergo: they can't and won't land-max
How does it reflect on this war? First, Russian invading force is small. It has LOTS of artillery ofc. But it's not numerous enough to win. Pro-Russian analysts compare their advance with Barbarossa. But unlike Wehrmacht in 1941 Russian invaders have only *ONE ECHELON OF TROUPS*
...
But on a deeper level Putin is absolutely correct. His declaration of "special operation" in Ukraine is sincere, because he didn't expect the war. He doesn't know how to do wars. For all of his life he's been organising and launching the special operations
First, as a KGB officer. Then, as St Petersburg city councillor for foreign affairs (= illegally selling Soviet warehouse stuff to the West). In 1990s he closely worked with the criminal world and he did it successfully. Here you see him with a thief-in-law, Grandpa Hassan
...
[se nadaljuje]
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/...
...
His successor Shoygu knew better than that. Now who's Shoygu? Shoygu is the *only* single Russian minister who uninterruptedly worked in government since 1991, since the very beginning of Russian Federation. He worked for all presidents, all prime ministers avoided all purges
What does it mean? It means he's a cunning political entrepreneur, great in court politics, publicity, image. You survive every single administration by maxing your political survival. And to max it you need to minimise animosity. So you never object to powerful interest groups
...
That's a very, very typical problem. Efficiency-maxing requires ruthlessness in dealing with established elites and interest groups. Meanwhile court-politics-maxing requires pondering to them and not making enemies. Serdyukov was maxing efficiency, Shoygu - court politics
...
And Russia is PR-maxing. Putin declared that the share of new ships should reach 70% by 2027. Old Soviet ships are becoming obsolete, Russia's building new ones. BUT. Major Soviet shipyards are located in Ukraine. So now Russia expands shipyard infrastructure to reach this goal
Soviet naval legacy is a curse of Russian military. USSR could afford ocean fleets with carrier strike group. Russia can't. But abandoning Soviet ambitions would require suppressing their own hubris (impossible). So they strive to maintain it. Ergo: they can't and won't land-max
How does it reflect on this war? First, Russian invading force is small. It has LOTS of artillery ofc. But it's not numerous enough to win. Pro-Russian analysts compare their advance with Barbarossa. But unlike Wehrmacht in 1941 Russian invaders have only *ONE ECHELON OF TROUPS*
...
But on a deeper level Putin is absolutely correct. His declaration of "special operation" in Ukraine is sincere, because he didn't expect the war. He doesn't know how to do wars. For all of his life he's been organising and launching the special operations
First, as a KGB officer. Then, as St Petersburg city councillor for foreign affairs (= illegally selling Soviet warehouse stuff to the West). In 1990s he closely worked with the criminal world and he did it successfully. Here you see him with a thief-in-law, Grandpa Hassan
...
[se nadaljuje]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Voss ::
Danes pa res nisem pričakoval tako močan odziv s strani EU. Očitno dodaten pritisk pred "pogajanji" in odgovor Putinu na jedrsko grožnjo. Postaja pa tole vse bolj napeto. Še kakšen izstrelek zadene kakšno hišo čez mejo pa smo not.
Voss ::
Something massive just exploded in Cherkasy Oblast, Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/...
thermobaric bomba ?
https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/...
thermobaric bomba ?
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Voss ()
Voss ::
To je bil genocid.
Looks like an ammunition stockpile just got struck in Cherkasy Oblast, Ukraine. Shockwave from the blast can be seen.
Looks like an ammunition stockpile just got struck in Cherkasy Oblast, Ukraine. Shockwave from the blast can be seen.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Voss ()
WizzardOfOZ ::
Skladišče goriva ali pa orožja in municije.
Milčinski je napisal butalce kot prispodobo in ne kot priročnik!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/14980...
A Ukrainian sailor in Mallorca opened the valves & "partially sank" a €7m yacht belonging to the director of Russia's arms exporter.
After he explained it was in retaliation for Russian missile strikes on Kyiv, a judge released him pending trial.
A Ukrainian sailor in Mallorca opened the valves & "partially sank" a €7m yacht belonging to the director of Russia's arms exporter.
After he explained it was in retaliation for Russian missile strikes on Kyiv, a judge released him pending trial.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
sir_mha ::
Ruska (geo)politična žajfnica
...
[se nadaljuje]
O Šojgu in zakulisnih bojih pri Putinu --zatonu FSB in vzponu vojske-- so se razpisal na Foreign Affairs.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles...
WizzardOfOZ ::
https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/14980...
A Ukrainian sailor in Mallorca opened the valves & "partially sank" a €7m yacht belonging to the director of Russia's arms exporter.
After he explained it was in retaliation for Russian missile strikes on Kyiv, a judge released him pending trial.
Torej v sloveniji živi par rusov, nihče jih recimo ne bo vprašal, kaj in kako, lahko jim kar bajte zažgemo, če bo pa sodnik kaj težil, se bomo pa zgovarjal na ukrajino? Zdej bo kr vsak lahko vzel zakon v svoje roke? Bolano.
Milčinski je napisal butalce kot prispodobo in ne kot priročnik!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Svuda u svijetu ima budala ali je izgleda kod nas centrala!!!
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: WizzardOfOZ ()
Pac-Man ::
Da so pričakovali hiter zaključek konflikta kaže tudi to, da pojutrišnjem izgubijo predsedovanje VS ZN. Sledijo UAE, nato VB, ZDA in Albanija.
Presidency of the United Nations Security Council @ Wikipedia
Presidency of the United Nations Security Council @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
enemon ::
Pimoz ::
Da so pričakovali hiter zaključek konflikta kaže tudi to, da pojutrišnjem izgubijo predsedovanje VS ZN. Sledijo UAE, nato VB, ZDA in Albanija.
Presidency of the United Nations Security Council @ Wikipedia
Kokr jst razumem predsedovanje ne prinese nobenih dodatnih ugodnosti.
Pac-Man ::
Vodiš sejo, vsekakor je bonus.
Ko je Ukrajinec povedal svoje, so jo na hitro končali.
Ko je Ukrajinec povedal svoje, so jo na hitro končali.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Voss ::
BorutO ::
Kolikor vem, so UAE "zavezniki" ZDA ... stalno sodelujejo skupaj pri raznih projektih ... od vojaških do gospodarskih.
Pimoz ::
Voss ::
Voss ::
endelin ::
PacificBlue ::
Voss ::
Ukraine's army in Kharkiv finally received additional Javelins, NLAW, SMAW-D and Stingers.
https://twitter.com/AlexKhrebet/status/...
https://twitter.com/AlexKhrebet/status/...
sekvap ::
zakaj se UA vojska ne spravi na kolone ruskih vozil ki se vozijo v mesto? Ne bi bilo najlažje in najbolj učinkovito narediti par preletov, še lepo v liniji so postavljeni?