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Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/statu...

Ukraine: Fresh presidential ratings by Rating Group. Yulia Tymoshenko far ahead, followed by comedian Volodymir Zelensky. Poroshenko comes third, followed by the Russia-friendly Yury Boyko and Anatoly Hrytsenko, who promotes “enlightened” authoritarianism.
Poroshenko has a pretty lethal anti-rating. Over 50% of Ukrainians say they will not vote for him no matter what. Compare with Tymoshenko’s 26.4%
Over 50% of Ukrainians expect considerable rigging in the upcoming elections.

2019 Ukrainian presidential election @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

7tom1ja ::

Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

NMH ::

Logično, če jim je pa del države okupiran s strani sosede.

Mr.B ::

NMH je izjavil:

Logično, če jim je pa del države okupiran s strani sosede.

Enako je mislila tudi nemčija, pa se jim je danes prov dobro izšlo.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

NMH ::

Mr.B je izjavil:

NMH je izjavil:

Logično, če jim je pa del države okupiran s strani sosede.

Enako je mislila tudi nemčija, pa se jim je danes prov dobro izšlo.


Malo si zamešal. V enaki vlogi kot Nemčija v 30ih je sedaj Rusija.
Podobno si priklaplja sosedne države, ker misli, da je ozemlje njeno.

Mr.B ::

NMH je izjavil:

Mr.B je izjavil:

NMH je izjavil:

Logično, če jim je pa del države okupiran s strani sosede.

Enako je mislila tudi nemčija, pa se jim je danes prov dobro izšlo.


Malo si zamešal. V enaki vlogi kot Nemčija v 30ih je sedaj Rusija.
Podobno si priklaplja sosedne države, ker misli, da je ozemlje njeno.

A ok, Naci always naci pa to. Samozanikanje pa te zadeve. ČE naci opravičiš z goro beguncev okoli meje je tudi ok.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Ukrajina je bila prav tako pod INF protokolom in bo lahko po njegovem razpadu razvijala & mobilizirala rakete srednjega dosega.

https://twitter.com/steven_pifer/status...

Zabavno.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

7tom1ja ::

Ukraine honors nationalist whose troops killed 50,000 Jews
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-h...

Bas-relief in honor of Simon Petlura whose troops murdered 50 thousand Jews in pogroms in Ukraine was unveiled today in Kiev

Ukraine is NOT a nazi state
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

Pac-Man ::

Symon Petliura @ Wikipedia

1) Umorjen je bil l. 1926.

2) The newly formed Ukrainian state (Ukrainian National Republic) promised Jews full equality and autonomy. Arnold Margolin, a Jewish assistant minister in Petliura's UNR government, declared in May 1919 that the Ukrainian government had given Jews more rights than they enjoyed in any other European government.[16] However, after 1918, Petliura gradually lost control over most of his military units,[citation needed] with some of those break-away units getting involved in pogroms against Jews. During Petliura's term as Head of State (1919–20), pogroms continued to be perpetrated on Ukrainian territory.

3) It has been documented that Petliura actively sought to halt anti-Jewish violence on numerous occasions, introducing capital punishment for the crime of pogroming.[22][23][24][25][26][27] Conversely, he is also accused of not having done enough to stop the pogroms,[16] and being afraid to punish officers and soldiers engaged in crimes against Jews for fear of losing their support.[28][29]

4) Petlura, avgust 1919

It is time to realize that the world Jewish population—their children, their women—was enslaved and deprived of its national freedom, just like we were.
It should not go anywhere away from us; it has been living with us since time immemorial, sharing our fate and misfortune with us.
I decisively order that all those who will be inciting you to carry out pogroms be expelled from our army and tried as traitors of the Motherland. Let the courts try them for their actions, without sparing the criminals the severest punishments according to the law. The government of the UNR, understanding all the harm that pogroms inflict on the state, has issued a proclamation to the entire population of the land, with the appeal to oppose all measures by enemies that instigate pogroms against the Jewish population...


Keep on agitpropin'
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

V drugih novicah, srbski prostovoljec v LNR je izginjen s strani vladajočih struktur.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/10...

Wife of a Serbian volunteer fighter in Luhansk says that he has disappeared since going in for a "meeting" with LNR authorities. No contact for three months now. The wife's interactions with the LNR are straight out of "Requiem"/1937 with them stonewalling her efforts to find him
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

BFVV ::

7tom1ja je izjavil:

Ukraine honors nationalist whose troops killed 50,000 Jews
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-h...

Bas-relief in honor of Simon Petlura whose troops murdered 50 thousand Jews in pogroms in Ukraine was unveiled today in Kiev

Ukraine is NOT a nazi state


Naciste v Ukrajini sponzorira lizrael.

Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine

Pac-Man ::

BFVV je izjavil:


Čas prve prijave 13.02.2019 09:29:16

Thank you, next.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

7tom1ja ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Symon Petliura @ Wikipedia

1) Umorjen je bil l. 1926.

2) The newly formed Ukrainian state (Ukrainian National Republic) promised Jews full equality and autonomy. Arnold Margolin, a Jewish assistant minister in Petliura's UNR government, declared in May 1919 that the Ukrainian government had given Jews more rights than they enjoyed in any other European government.[16] However, after 1918, Petliura gradually lost control over most of his military units,[citation needed] with some of those break-away units getting involved in pogroms against Jews. During Petliura's term as Head of State (1919–20), pogroms continued to be perpetrated on Ukrainian territory.

3) It has been documented that Petliura actively sought to halt anti-Jewish violence on numerous occasions, introducing capital punishment for the crime of pogroming.[22][23][24][25][26][27] Conversely, he is also accused of not having done enough to stop the pogroms,[16] and being afraid to punish officers and soldiers engaged in crimes against Jews for fear of losing their support.[28][29]

4) Petlura, avgust 1919

It is time to realize that the world Jewish population—their children, their women—was enslaved and deprived of its national freedom, just like we were.
It should not go anywhere away from us; it has been living with us since time immemorial, sharing our fate and misfortune with us.
I decisively order that all those who will be inciting you to carry out pogroms be expelled from our army and tried as traitors of the Motherland. Let the courts try them for their actions, without sparing the criminals the severest punishments according to the law. The government of the UNR, understanding all the harm that pogroms inflict on the state, has issued a proclamation to the entire population of the land, with the appeal to oppose all measures by enemies that instigate pogroms against the Jewish population...


Keep on agitpropin'


wikipedia rules over times of Israel; glede na to da rad delaš domače naloge sem prepričan, da veš vse o povezavah med wikipedio in atlantic council;
BTW lahko nadaljujeva z novoodkritmi nazi kipi če se ne strinjaš s tem
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

Pac-Man ::

Je komplicirano.

Ampak to pač ne gre v tvoj dober/slab naci as told by RT pogled na svet.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/od-russia...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

7tom1ja ::

aha, je komplicirano, pa nadaljujmo

This is a photo of Nazi SS Division "Galizia" Hauptsturmfuhrer Dmytro Paliyiv in 1944 and his memorial plaque in modern Lviv, Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/edolinsky/status/10...

Ukraine is NOT a nazi state
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

Pac-Man ::

14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) @ Wikipedia

The Division's prime organizer and highest ranking Ukrainian officer, Dmytro Paliiv, had been the leader of a small legal political party in the Second Polish Republic. Many of his colleagues had been members of the pre-war moderate, left-leaning democratic UNDO movement[14][nb 1] that before the war had also been opposed to the authoritarian OUN. The Division also obtained moral support from officers of the exiled Polish-allied Ukrainian National Republic such as General Mykhailo Omelianovych-Pavlenko.[12] The Division was also strongly supported by Andriy Melnyk's moderate faction of the OUN, who saw it as a counterweight to the extremist Banderist-dominated UPA.[12]

Ukrainian National Democratic Alliance @ Wikipedia

UNDO's efforts to reach an agreement with the Polish government led to fractures within the party. In 1933 a group of UNDO members led by Dmytro Paliiv left UNDO to form another party that was uncompromisingly opposed to both Poland as well as the Soviet Union. Although this new party was more nationalistic and authoritarian, it was legal and continued UNDO's opposition to the terrorism of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists.[10]

Da, je komplicirano. Pick the devil?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

7tom1ja ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) @ Wikipedia

The Division's prime organizer and highest ranking Ukrainian officer, Dmytro Paliiv, had been the leader of a small legal political party in the Second Polish Republic. Many of his colleagues had been members of the pre-war moderate, left-leaning democratic UNDO movement[14][nb 1] that before the war had also been opposed to the authoritarian OUN. The Division also obtained moral support from officers of the exiled Polish-allied Ukrainian National Republic such as General Mykhailo Omelianovych-Pavlenko.[12] The Division was also strongly supported by Andriy Melnyk's moderate faction of the OUN, who saw it as a counterweight to the extremist Banderist-dominated UPA.[12]

Ukrainian National Democratic Alliance @ Wikipedia

UNDO's efforts to reach an agreement with the Polish government led to fractures within the party. In 1933 a group of UNDO members led by Dmytro Paliiv left UNDO to form another party that was uncompromisingly opposed to both Poland as well as the Soviet Union. Although this new party was more nationalistic and authoritarian, it was legal and continued UNDO's opposition to the terrorism of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists.[10]

Da, je komplicirano. Pick the devil?


aha, moderate nazi:-); daj no Pac, občasno je treba vreči puško v koruzo
Katera država na svetu še postavlja spomenike nazijem ? bolj retorično vprašanje
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

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7tom1ja ::

Formed in 1943, it was largely destroyed in the battle of Brody, reformed, and saw action in Slovakia, Yugoslavia and Austria

Moral support ? tip je nazi uniformi
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

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7tom1ja ::

Kiev's shopping mall Gorodok

https://twitter.com/alkhwarizmi42/statu...
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

Pac-Man ::

Ker populacija nacional-socialistov je nakupovalnemu centru zagotovo bolj tržno zanimiva, kot populacija ne-nacional-socialistov. When money talks, bullshit walks.

Očiten false flag, škoda besed.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Ko na vsak način iščeš neonaciste v Ukrajini, imaš tule cel kup temeljito dokumentirane solate. Ampak je Bellingcat, tako da fejk njuz, I guess?

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

7tom1ja ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ko na vsak način iščeš neonaciste v Ukrajini, imaš tule cel kup temeljito dokumentirane solate. Ampak je Bellingcat, tako da fejk njuz, I guess?

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-...


Belingcat je sponzoriran s strani atlantic council; kamorkoli se obrneš jih je polno, da da niti ni treba iskati.
Uk vlada- intergity initiative-belingcat
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

Fritz ::

"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

V Ukrajini spet drame okrog Eurosonga.

Da jo želijo imeti pod kontrolo na odru nekako razumem, ker je nastop precej drzen in bi ob improvizaciji lahko letele kazni, da si mora vse plačati sama in par drugih for pa je močno v duhu vatništva.

https://twitter.com/eurovisionmate/stat...


The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

(Plačani) protestniki so protestirali proti županu Olevska, ta jih je pa fotobombal. Nihče se ni vznemiril/ga prepoznal. Možno tudi, da jih je plačal sam. V glavnem - mindfuck.

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/11...
Olevsk @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

7tom1ja ::

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/u...

Zanimivo, očitno so amerji našli novega konja
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

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Pac-Man ::

In to je?

Ali pa jih morda zanima samo vladavina prava in jim "dol visi" kdo je na oblasti?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Trije tanki ruske vojske, ki so bili septembra 2014 posneti v Krasnodonu, Ukrajina. Zadnji je precej iffy.

https://twitter.com/askai707/status/110...


Ruske fotke so z Rostova, ob meji.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Pac-Man ::

Dvojni ruski agent vsaj od aprila 2014 iz Moskve obtožuje Ukrajino vseh stvari, za katere je bolj ali manj dokumentirano odgovorna Rusija. Napad je najboljša obramba.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new...

A secret services defector from Ukraine to Russia has claimed that Kiev was directly involved in the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 killing all 298 on board.

...

At a press conference in Moscow, Prozorov alleged: “The Ukrainian side is an accomplice to the Malaysian MH17 flight disaster.”
He cited “certain information” but gave no specific details.

...

Prozorov, a SBU agent from 1999 to 2014, made a string of allegations against Ukraine - all fitting Moscow’s view of the current crisis between the two ex-Soviet states.
He claimed to have defected for “ideological reasons”.
He had been secretly working as a double agent for Russian intelligence since April 2014, he said.

...

He claimed the SBU carried out killings of pro-Moscow rebel leaders.
The service was involved in vote rigging, and setting up secret prisons, he said.
Vladimir Putin declined to comment.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

V nedeljo bo v Ukrajini prvi krog predsedniških volitev. Ankete kažejo, da bo šel v 2. krog Zelenski in Porošenko ali Timošenkova.

Opinion polling for the 2019 Ukrainian presidential election @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Uravnotežen prispevek o ukrajinski pravoslavni cerkvi.

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

V Ukrajini danes poteka 1. krog predsedniških volitev, v komentarjih na MMC pa največji šitšov v zadnjih mesecih. Sodelujemo praktično vsi dežurni in še kak nov.

Zabavno :)

https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/evropa/volit...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Leaker49 ::

A lahko nehaš lepiti linke, ker kot prvo, nisi avtor in kot drugo, nisi plačal za pravice linkanja!

Pac-Man ::

Fejk njuz v praksi.

1) web medij objavi intervju z Njašo, ki hvali Zelenskega

2) zadeva se prepakira v "uradni" oglas za Zelenskega

3) uradni oglas retvita Yevhen Fedčenko.
Yevhen fura StopFake.

https://www.communication-director.com/...

Yevhen Fedchenko is director of the Mohyla School of Journalism at National University of Kyiv-Mohyla Academy, Kiev, Ukraine and co-founder and chief editor for stopfake.org

StopFake @ Wikipedia

StopFake is a fact-checking organization, founded in March 2014 by Ukrainian professors and students, to refute Russian propaganda and combat fake news.


Zgleda jim resno teče voda v grlo.

Vir:
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/11...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

GRU ima nov bubu.

V Ukrajino so poslali 7 operativcev, ki naj bi izvedli atentat na agenta SBU. En se je med nastavljanjem eksploziva vrgel v zrak (preživel), ostale je polovil SBU, zdaj pa izginjajo iz baz na spletu.

Več, tudi CCTV kabuma

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...

in povzetek

SBU now announces capture of Russian secret service officers who tried to blow up car of SBU officer a couple days earlier.
One of them - captured - is deputy of the Head of Ingushetia, travelling under fake Kyrgiz passport.
A total of 7 Russian officers/agents were arrested. Most traveled under fake identity.

This is Timur Dzortov (from his social media profile). Deputy to Head of Ingushetia. Captured by SBU under a fake Kyrgyz passport.
Indeed, in 2014-2016 he flew extensively within Russia using "ID of Member of Parliament"
Indeed, appears to be captured and giving testimony.
He appears to admit to having been tasked with special ops not only in Ukraine, but "in an EU state" (however, his words were bleeped out, as SBU says this is under current investigation with EU countries' law enforcement.

This is the Russian secret service officer who blew himself up earlier this month while placing a bomb under the car of a Ukrainian military intelligence officer.
He also traveled under a fake ID. SBU says he is now in hospital, and that he was coerced by GRU to do this job
Indeed, in a Russian criminal records database, we find that in 2016 this person was sentenced to a jail sentence plus payment of a fine of nearly EUR 700,000 "for requesting a bribe in extremely high amount".
At that time he was an officer in Russia's drug-enforcement agency.

Important: Russia has deleted all records of the existence of Timur Dzortov from RU databases.
No such person in the central passport database (anymore). No such person with tax ID or driving license (anymore).
Yet, he existed in Sept 2018, as he is in our offline databases:)


Here, be existed healthily in a Sept 2018 snapshot of the residential and passport database.
We have checked three real-time databases today and he is ... no longer a person.
I'd say the biggest beneficiaries of introducing blockchain in population records would be families of RU secret service officers.
Now their husbands/fathers/brothers keep vanishing without a trace and proof they ever existed.

A reminder that all GRU officers we previously identified as suspects in the Salisbury+Bulgarian poisonings have been purged from all RU databases.
Not only under their cover names, mind you, under their real names too.


Here is the criminal record for the would-be killer who blew himself up while placing the bomb.
In 2016, he had a debt of 47 m Rub (approx 700 k USD), as "additional penalty for crime of corruption".
I guess, he agreed to pay back, as it turned out, with his arms...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Še drug ruski specialist z Bellingcata

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/11...

in 9 minutni video zaslišanja z angleškimi podnapisi

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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jype ::

Kaj pa Porošenko?

MrStein ::

"Komik Volodimir Zelenski je s 73 odstotki podpore postal prepričljiv zmagovalec predsedniških volitev v Ukrajini, kažejo volilne projekcije."

"Zelenski, ki nima političnih izkušenj, znan pa je po igranju predsednika države v priljubljeni televizijski nanizanki "

What could possibly go wrong?


PS: A jih bo Slovenija tožila za avtorske pravice?
Motiti se je človeško.
Motiti se pogosto je neumno.
Vztrajati pri zmoti je... oh, pozdravljen!

Pac-Man ::

Fun, fun, fun.

https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/sta...

President-elect Zelenskiy declares information war on Russia.
He has repeatedly spoken on the campaign trail about taking the information war to the Kremlin and doing it in the Russian language - this is something we should expect to see develop in the coming weeks


Vsekakor se spozna na medije, Ukrajina pa je odlično pozicionirana za kontriranje ruski propagandi. Leta nakladanja o nacističnih ekstremistih bi jih znala kmalu ugrizniti v rit.
Bomo videli kako bo v praksi.

Alzo

https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/sta...

Moscow will cheer Poroshenko’s defeat but Zelenskiy offers no change on Ukraine’s current geopolitical trajectory. The key difference is that Kremlin TV must now explain why a Russian-speaking Jew is continuing policies previously positioned as nationalist extremism

https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/sta...

Ukrainians have just elected a Russian-speaking Jew as the country's next president by a national landslide. Will the international media now pause and consider why they have echoed the Kremlin and given such disproportionate coverage to "Ukrainian nationalism" for past 5 years?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Pac-Man ::

Se je že začelo.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/com...

“To all Ukrainians, no matter where you are, I promise that I will never let you down,” Zelensky said after the results came in.
“Though I’m still not president, I can say as a Ukrainian citizen to all the countries of the former Soviet Union: Look at us. Everything is possible.”
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Cervantes ::

A rabid Russiahater?
Nič novega, že videno. Zdaj se pa sekiraj.
Sicer pa ti kar pašeš pod tisto tvoje "distinction between true and false", karkoli že to je.

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Pac-Man ::

Ne, putinhejtr.

Leto stara satira o ruskih predsedniških volitvah



Z v Rusiji prepovedanim humorjem v Ruščini se da marsikaj. Samo dostavit ga je treba ciljnemu občinstvu. Kaj bo v praksi bomo pa videli. Zadaj stoji Kosomolski.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Cervantes ::

OK. Sam ne mi citirat agencije Atlantic Council, ker pol bom jaz tebi citiral RT. Z enako kredibilnostjo.

jype ::

Atlantic Council je pa ja kredibilen, sej to je isto k SDS, največja stranka v Sloveniji.

fikus_ ::

Pa to je "zmaga realnega življenja" nad virtualnim! Virtualen svet s TV zaslonov, z družabnih omrežij se je prenesel v realnost ("in beseda je meso postala"). :)



:))

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joze67 ::

Glasovi iz tujine
Pobrali so 24 glasov v Braziliji živečih Ukrajincev. V Ruski federaciji je koliko? 3-4 M Ukrajincev Ukrajinska ocena 2016, katerih očitno nihče ni nič vprašal.

fikus_ ::

To je dosežek njihove "selektivne demokracije".

Pac-Man ::

Se zgodi, če emigriraš v državo, ki je v vojni s tvojo domovino.

So pa zanimive številke oddanih glasovnic. Na Poljskem manj kot 8000.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Se zgodi, če emigriraš v državo, ki je v vojni s tvojo domovino.

So pa zanimive številke oddanih glasovnic. Na Poljskem manj kot 8000.

Da sta Rusija in Ukrajina v vojni? Zanimivo kaj vse človek izve tukaj. 8-)
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
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