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jype je 22. dec 2014 ob 14:10 izjavil:

Bobr123> Sedaj bi se manjkal samo še seznam civilnih žrtev pri vseh teh posredovanjih in bi moja trditev dobila pečat.

A domače civilne žrtve štejejo? Recimo Holodomor @ Wikipedia in Great Purge @ Wikipedia ?

jype je 22. dec 2014 ob 14:37 izjavil:

Bobr123> 19.000.000 - 100.000.000 ubitih Indijancev (vem da je to že na seznamu a hkrati spada v domače civilne žrtve)

A to so vsi, al samo severnoameriški?

Bobr123> Večina bi jih rekla holokavst židov v času nacistične Nemčije....

Ja, ker ne vedo, da je Stalin v smrt poslal slabih 25 mio ljudi.

Bobr123 je 22. dec 2014 ob 13:55 izjavil:

Hvala za nov link in potrditev moje trditve, da so Američani večje zlo.

88 posredovanj v 239 letih, US VS 90 posredovanj v 524 letih, Rusija.

Torej poenostavljeno:
0,368 posredovanj/leto US
0,171 posredovanj/leto Rusija

Sedaj bi se manjkal samo še seznam civilnih žrtev pri vseh teh posredovanjih in bi moja trditev dobila pečat.

Namreč ravno civilne žrtve, so za nas navadne smrtnike najbolj pomembne.

Smrekar1 je 22. dec 2014 ob 15:20 izjavil:

Bobr123 je 22. dec 2014 ob 13:55 izjavil:

Hvala za nov link in potrditev moje trditve, da so Američani večje zlo.

88 posredovanj v 239 letih, US VS 90 posredovanj v 524 letih, Rusija.

Torej poenostavljeno:
0,368 posredovanj/leto US
0,171 posredovanj/leto Rusija

Pri ZDA so štete tudi vse vojne z Indijanci, medtem ko je rusko osvajanje Sibirije pač nekaj, kar se je zgodilo, ampak o tem ne ve nihče nič.

Če hočeš primerljiva seznama moraš pri ZDA odšteti vse vojne z indijanci.

Sedaj bi se manjkal samo še seznam civilnih žrtev pri vseh teh posredovanjih in bi moja trditev dobila pečat.

Namreč ravno civilne žrtve, so za nas navadne smrtnike najbolj pomembne.

Rusija je zgolj v preteklem stoletju pomorila več kot 60 milijonov ljudi, bili so tudi eden najpomembnejših zaveznikov Hitlerjeve Nemčije, ko je začela s svojim osvajalskim pohodom.

D3m je 22. dec 2014 ob 14:20 izjavil:

Pa še malo branja:

Grandmaster Putin's Golden Trap

The long-term outlook for global oil prices is lower, perhaps much lower, giving a strong boost to the U.S. economy while potentially crippling the economy of Vladimir Putin's Russia. Vast new discoveries of oil and natural gas in the U.S. and around the globe could drive the oil price to as low as $75 a barrel over the next five years from a current $100.
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Citigroup's head of global commodity research, Edward Morse, believes the combination of flattening consumption and rising production should mean that "the $90-a-barrel floor on the world oil price over the past few years will become a $90 ceiling." Within a new trading range with a $90 ceiling, Morse sees an average of $75 as plausible.
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And an editorial in The Wall Street Journal recently proposed that the Department of Energy "approve immediately the 25 applications for liquefied natural gas…export terminals," since "every dollar of U.S. gas is one less dollar flowing to Mr. Putin's economy."
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About 75% of Russia's natural gas exports go to Western Europe, providing 30% of its requirements, at prices that are two and three times the price in the U.S.
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AMY JAFFE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR for energy and sustainability at the University of California, Davis, co-authored a recent study with Rice University economics professor Mahmoud El-Gamal predicting that barring a "war that destroys physical installations for the production and/or transport of oil," the oil price will "fall precipitously over the medium term of three to five years."

Jaffe believes the average price could fall below $75, based in part on her view that oil-production costs are not fixed. "Research shows that costs track oil prices and not the other way around," she observes. As oil prices move lower, demand for drilling rigs and related equipment falls, lowering the cost of drilling. And that's bad news for Putin.

"The Russian government's budget is expected to need an oil price of over $100 to stay balanced between now and 2020," Jaffe says. "A $75 average could make the ruble's recent tailspin look trivial by comparison." [še enkrat, marec 2014]
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Steve Briese, publisher and writer of the Bullish Review of Commodity Insiders newsletter, is currently projecting an imminent plunge in the oil price to the $70 region. His bearish outlook is based on the recent peak in the net short position of businesses involved with oil. These businesses, also called "commercials," use futures and options on West Texas Intermediate crude traded on the New York Mercantile Exchange as part of their business strategy.
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THE GAME CHANGERS on the supply side are the three new types of oil production that have not been counted as part of the oil supply until recently: deepwater oil, shale oil, and oil sands. Each of these sources of oil has been estimated at more than 300 billion barrels, totaling more than one trillion barrels in all. That's a huge addition to previously estimated reserves of some 1.5 trillion barrels. According to Citigroup energy analyst Eric Lee, a good proportion of the extra trillion barrels could be recoverable at $75 a barrel or less. In fact, he notes that a $75 cost estimate could even be on the high side, as production costs for shale and even deepwater can continue to fall over time.
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On the demand side, petroleum's monopoly of the transportation market is being challenged by abundant natural gas recoverable from shale.
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A barrel of oil contains the energy-equivalent of some 5.55 million BTUs. At the current natural-gas spot price of $4.30 per million BTUs, a barrel at $75 buys nearly 17.5 million BTUs-worth of natural gas -- more than three times as much.
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This multiple is already being exploited. In a major study, Citigroup's Morse, together with a team of other analysts, has calculated that there is huge potential for savings if trucks, buses, ships, and ultimately passenger vehicles are run with natural gas rather than petroleum fuels. The study also notes that the conversion is well under way. Waste Management (WM) has made it known that 80% of the trucks it buys are fueled by cheaper natural gas. Cummins (CMI) and joint-venture partner Westport Innovations (WPRT) sell an engine that runs on both liquid natural gas and compressed natural gas. Westport Innovations specializes in retrofitting engines with natural-gas components.

chucki je 22. dec 2014 ob 21:46 izjavil:

in posledično kakšne cene bodo pri nas?

chucki je 22. dec 2014 ob 21:46 izjavil:

Da ne berem vsega, ima kdo voljo da kratko in jedernato napiše, zakaj nafta pada? in predvidoma do kakšne cene bo prišel sodček nafte in posledično kakšne cene bodo pri nas?

Crude oil prices have fallen 30% since June on sluggish global demand and rising production from the US.

Tvoja nepismenost in neznanje pa res ni moj problem.

Zakaj bi bil su 25 oborožen z air-to-air raketami, če mu tam ni grozil iz zraka noben drug lovec (razen ruskih protiletalskih bukov in podobnih zadev na ozemlju pod nadzorom airsoft klubov), s katerimi so klatili dol razna letala Ukr vojske ?

Vanich je 23. dec 2014 ob 14:23 izjavil:

Saj niso namenoma. Po pomoti. Kapetan pilot SU-25 se je usral in je streljal. Preberi članek; 2 SU-25 - oba pilota sta bila njegova kolega - so sestrelili isti dan. Vsi trije so pa poleteli z istega letališča. Tip se je usral ko grlica.

Su-25 izgube:
1 damaged on 1 July 2014, but landed safely.[13]

1 shot down on 16 July 2014, ether by a Russian MiG-29 using a R-27T missile or by a rebel SAM.[14] The same day a second plane was damaged by rebel MANPADS and forced to land.[11]

2 shot down on 23 July 2014, near the village of Dmytrivka, east of Donetsk.[15][16]

1 shot down on 29 August 2014.[11]

D3m je 23. dec 2014 ob 14:01 izjavil:

Na sliki je pa tak dim, kot pri meni doma, ko kurim v hosti povsem irelevantno.

Kje je mobilna ploščad, raketa karkoli, kar bi kazalo na krivdo rusov po možnosti podkrepite s slikami.

Daedalus je 23. dec 2014 ob 14:59 izjavil:

Kvapa. Potem ga je pa še dokrajčio z 30mm topom.

Nič kar bi en posranec naredil. Izstrelil rakete in spizdil, to ja. Ne pa še pol malo naokoli letal in streljal na objekt svoje presranosti. Logika, logika...

Sure I can. Tvoja sposobnost resnega razumevanja, je pa itak očitno več kot vprašljiva.

Ti bom posredoval vse dokaze, da so Rusi namerno sestrelili B777. V obliki hieroglifov na glinenih tablicah. Uporabi google translate, sej ni tako težko.

Če napišem malo drugače - trolov, ki trosijo naokoli nepreverjene informacije v neberljivi obliki, ne gre resno jemat.

D3m je 22. dec 2014 ob 19:18 izjavil:

Pozabil si v narekovaj dati še milijon. Pa verjetno misliš mongolce oz. tatare.