Obvezno cepljenje otrok - Mnenja za in proti?

imagodei je 27. mar 2014 ob 13:26 izjavil:

Podatke o tem smo v tej temi že navajali, spodobilo bi se, da za njimi pobrskaš.

Spet demagogija in zavajanje. Da lahko o sliki razumno debatiraš, je treba poznati razliko med smrtnostjo in obolevnostjo. Cepiva znižajo obolevnost. Zaradi tega se spraznijo bolnišnice in namesto črede zdravnikov, ki skrbijo za komplicirane primere ošpic, poliomielitisa, oslovskega kašlja, davice in tetanusa, se resursi sprostijo, tako da se lahko zdravstvo ukvarja s storitvami, ki še bistveno bolj zvišujejo kvaliteto življenja: travmatologija, onkologija, kardiologija, nefrologija, dermatologija, itd. Namesto da bi se zdravstvo nenehno ukvarjalo s kompliciranimi primeri otroških bolezni, se ima čas ukvarjat z drugimi bolezenskimi stanji in zahtevami sodobnega človeka - vključno z operacijami hemeroidov, krčnih žil in nosnih polipov.

Ja, jaz sem prebral - gre za standarde, skozi katere mora vsako zdravilo, ki ga uporabljajo na ljudeh. Eno je sicer razvoj in testiranje cepiva, drugo pa je menjava patogena v cepivu. Npr., vemo da je cepivo proti gripi vsako leto drugačno, vendar v tem cepivu zamenjajo samo patogen, ne pa celotne sestave cepiva.

Unfortunately, drug maker Glaxo Smith Kline (GSK), the manufacturer of the whooping cough vaccine, did not bother to perform long-term studies of its effectiveness. A company spokesperson confirmed this disturbing fact in an email to Reuters, stating that GSK never studied the duration of the vaccine's protection after the shot was given to four- to six-year-olds.

In addition, other scientific studies have confirmed a link between vaccines and an increased risk of infectious diseases.

Half of all the cases in 2005 are traceable to one unvaccinated U.S. resident, who was infected during a visit to Romania of less than 2 weeks. This outbreak was the largest documented in the United States since 1996. All but two of the 34 patients in this outbreak were unvaccinated. The outbreak occurred because measles was imported into a population of children whose parents had chosen not to vaccinate their children because of safety concerns, despite evidence that that measles-containing vaccine is safe and effective (4). A major epidemic was averted because of high vaccination levels and a low rate of vaccine failure in the surrounding community. The cost of containing this outbreak was estimated at $167,685 (5).

Vaccination status was known for 84% (14 630) of the reported cases. Of these, 82% (12 056) were unvaccinated, 13% (1915) had received one dose of measles vaccine, 4% (532) had received two or more doses, and 0.1% (127) cases had received an unknown number of doses. The proportion of unvaccinated cases was high across all age groups, ranging from around 89% in those under the age of one year (too young for routine measles vaccination) to around 50% in the 25 - 29-year-old age group

Case characteristics

The majority of the 776 cases occurred in young people 10 to 19 years old, with the average age being 15.2; 1 out of 9 cases (11 %) required hospitalization. No death were reported. Complications were reported in 64 cases (8 %), most being respiratory (27 cases of pneumonia).

Vaccination status of cases

A number of 615 cases (79 %) were not considered protected (immune) for the following reasons:

Had not received any dose of vaccine,
Had no proof of vaccination,
Were not eligible for vaccination,
Did not know that they had already been vaccinated or whether they had the disease.

Among them were 29 children less than one year old, which is the minimum age to receive a first dose of vaccine.

Kaj long-term študija učinkovitosti veze s procesom, skozi katerega gre vsako zdravilo, preden je odobreno za uporabo na človeku?

Zato pa se NE cepi otrok/ljudi z oslabljenim imunskim sistemom. Tudi če jim samo z nosa teče.

Study: Whooping cough outbreak linked to vaccinated children

"What was very surprising was the majority of cases were in fully vaccinated children," Witt said. "That's what started catching our attention."

Matematika se ti ne izide preprosto zato, ker izhajaš iz napačnih predpostavk. Prvič, tudi če ima neka oseba že zelo nizko število protitelesc, bo okužba z npr. ošpicami še vedno potekala v blažji obliki, imunski odziv bo hitrejši, produkcija novih protitelesc bo stekla hitrejše. Drugič, cepivo seveda drži bistveno dlje kot 15 let. Tretjič, ljudje, starejši od 60 let so večinoma ošpice preboleli, ker se v njihovem otroštvu še ni sistematično cepilo - zato so še toliko bolj zaščiteni.

Health officials have set up clinics and urged people who have not been vaccinated to get the MMR vaccine to stop the disease's spread.

Measles is a highly contagious and potentially severe disease, causing fever, rash, cough and red, watery eyes. Officials say immunization is the best defense.

Most importantly, parents should understand that a measles vaccine (MMR) is the best way to protect your child from measles, and is especially important if there is a measles outbreak in your area or if you are traveling to an area with high rates of measles.

Gavran je 2. apr 2014 ob 15:14 izjavil:

Pithlit je 1. apr 2014 ob 18:17 izjavil:

Pa da bi bili necepljeno kazensko odgovorni, ako se izkaže da so vir okužbe...

Kaj pa če se izkaže, da je cepljeni vir okužbe? Če je precepljenost tako nujna, je tole čisto mogoče?

jype je 27. apr 2014 ob 19:38 izjavil:

Precej bullshita, ja.

Pol so vse zahodne države bedaste, ker nimajo obveznega cepljenja?

mk818764 je 27. apr 2014 ob 20:56 izjavil:

Zakaj že?
Pol so vse zahodne države bedaste, ker nimajo obveznega cepljenja?

jype je 28. apr 2014 ob 09:32 izjavil:

Invictus> Za to boš moral pa vseeno dati kak link ...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2259...