Zakaj so električni avtomobili prava stvar

"Due to a temporary global battery supply shortage, the sold order entry system for 18MY IONIQ EV will be closed effective immediately. The 19MY IONIQ EV will be opened at the same time to allow pre-sale of the 19MY IONIQ EV with deliveries in July."

They reportedly only ordered 6,000 to 7,000 EV battery packs from LG Chem before starting production and they were planning for only 1,200 vehicles per month.

Okapi je 8. maj 2018 ob 14:50 izjavil:

Kje si videl kogarkoli tule pisati o "nikoli"? Ko bodo stali enako ali manj od bencinskih avtov, in imeli domet 500+ km, jih bodo ljudje množično kupovali.

Utk je 8. maj 2018 ob 14:46 izjavil:

Ne vem v kakšnih zahojenih rovtah živiš, ampak okoli mene skoraj vsak že razmišlja o EV. Ne bi vsi jutri kupili, ampak tisti, ki rečejo "nikoli" so pa prekleto redki. Če že, so to tisti, ki kupujejo kripe do 3 jurje.

Magic1 je 8. maj 2018 ob 14:59 izjavil:

Utk je 8. maj 2018 ob 14:46 izjavil:

Ne vem v kakšnih zahojenih rovtah živiš, ampak okoli mene skoraj vsak že razmišlja o EV. Ne bi vsi jutri kupili, ampak tisti, ki rečejo "nikoli" so pa prekleto redki. Če že, so to tisti, ki kupujejo kripe do 3 jurje.

Že od davno mulci sanjajo o nišnih vrstah avtomobilov. Večina samo na način, če bi zadeli loto. Danes je tako z EV-ji. Hype je, folk se gre pozanimat v salon in razmišlanje ostane v sanjah. Koliko EV-jev imajo uporabniki na tem forumu?

In the last quarter, Tesla generated $2.56 billion from its car sales and this gives us a warranty provision rate of 2.42%. In one of my past articles, we already established that Tesla's warranty costs for 2017 were 2.34% versus the industry average of 2.0%.

This indicates that Tesla's car quality is still far below average. As a matter of fact, things are even worse than they look. First, Tesla builds electric cars with far fewer moving parts and much simpler engine, so its warranty costs should have been lower. Second, other car companies sell their cars to dealerships at wholesale prices while Tesla uses a direct sales approach, so Tesla keeps all of its revenues whereas other car companies share their revenues with other car companies. Since our warranty calculation divides warranty costs by total revenue, Tesla's numbers should have looked much better. Third, other car companies pay dealerships for warranty services and dealerships make a profit on servicing cars. Tesla owns and operates its own service centers, so its warranty costs should have been a lot lower than traditional car companies.

Since Tesla uses a direct sales approach and owns its own service centers, its numerator (warranty costs) should have been smaller and denominator (revenues) should have been higher. For example, if I buy a Ford (NYSE:F) vehicle at $30k, Ford only books $20-22k on revenues on that car since the dealership has to make a profit on the car. Then when my Ford has issues and I take it to be serviced, Ford pays dealership $3,000 to get it serviced while dealership actually spends $2,000 for the service and keeps the difference as profit. As a result, Ford's warranty cost on my car is 13.6% ($3k divided by $22k). Using Tesla's model of direct sales and direct servicing, this warranty cost would have been 6.67% ($2k divided by $30k) holding everything else constant.

In other words, if traditional car companies who pass part of their revenues and services to dealerships spend 2% of their revenues on warranties, Tesla should spend like 1.5-1.6%. Anything more means its quality is below average. Well, bulls might say that when Tesla finally and eventually fixes its quality issues, the company's sales model might result in higher profits than traditional car companies and to be fair, this might be true. Tesla still needs to fix its quality problems though.

xxxul je 9. maj 2018 ob 12:53 izjavil:

po tem videu sodec bodo ponujal prakticno isti razred vozila kot EV, hybrid, in z notranjim izgorevanjem, zanimivo

Magic1 je 9. maj 2018 ob 15:31 izjavil:

WTF?!? Še čisti klasiki se ne zmanjšuje prodaja, vi pa že govorite o zatonu hibridov... A resno mislite, da bomo v 10 letih na polno na pure BEV vagon skočili????

Magic1 je 9. maj 2018 ob 15:55 izjavil:

Kakšna je prednost hibridov? V avtu daš najbolj varčen motor, cca 100 konjev ali manj. Z dodatnim električnim pogonom dodaš konjev avtomobilu po želji kupca. V navezi z 10kWh baterijo imaš že zadosti dosega za vse kratke/mestne vožne. Električni del poskrbi, da klasika deluje skoraj vedno optimalno (ali sploh ne), še posebno se to pozna z vožnjo po mestu, kjer regeneracija še dodatno pripomore. Cena dodatnega električnega motorja bo na nivoju doplačila za močnejši motor. 10kWh baterija bo za drobiž (glede na to da tukaj nekateri že dolgo čivkajo o "10kEUR" za 70-80kWh baterijo).

Invictus je 9. maj 2018 ob 16:27 izjavil:

Klasičen motor samo skrbi za generacijo elektrike. Dela kot generator...

Avto se vedno pelje na električni pogon...