Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

Pac-Man je 26. okt 2022 ob 13:49 izjavil:

Nimaš pojma, oni imajo tradicijo kazenskega seksa

Na eni od fotografij, ki jih je v ponedeljek objavilo rusko zunanje ministrstvo, so prozorne vreče z radioaktivnim materialom, na katerih je napis v slovenščini "radioaktivno".

Fotografija je last Agencije za radioaktivne odpadke (ARAO) iz leta 2010, je na Twitterju pojasnila vlada

This photo feels very strange in light of recent news.

Anton Krasovsky, Russian 'journalist' who called for Ukrainian kids to be drowned.

Kseniya Sobchak, Russian journalist whose Moscow house is being searched right now

Yevhen Karas, Ukrainian far-right figure

and yes, that is a pic of Bandera

Odious Moscow socialite & Putin's alleged goddaughter Xenia Sobchak left Russia. She fled Russia on the night from 25 to 26 October, first to Belarus and from there to Lithuania. Long untouchable, she correctly sensed that noose was tightening.

Sobchak's threat assessment stemmed from the earlier detention of her manager (commercial director) Kirill Sukhanov in Moscow. Apparently Sobchak purchased online air tickets to UAE and Turkey to confuse Russian law enforcement.

Scaramouche3 je 25. okt 2022 ob 23:23 izjavil:

Zato je pa EU vojska nuja, ko bi lahko cel proračun dali samo v eno košaro in iz tega naredili nove tehnološke dosežke,tako pa vse države nekaj mencajo po svoje in nič od tega...

mackilla je 26. okt 2022 ob 16:40 izjavil:

Pri Hersonu ne kaže,da bi lahko Ukrajinci zadevo zaključili na hitro. Že pred kakšnim mesecem sem gledal,da so Rusi naredili nasip pri jezu. Zadeva je tako enostavna,da je skoraj neuničljiva. Če jo zadaneš lahko Rusi enostavno nasujejo novi material in je spet prevozna. Verjetno se bo vse skupaj vleklo še par mesecev.

Super ideja - da bomo v tretje kar sami financirali vojsko, s katero nas bodo potem nemci ponovno razbili.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders said Tuesday that the Russian invasion of Ukraine "has to be resisted," and that the Congressional Progressive Caucus was right to withdraw a letter that urged President Biden to negotiate an end to the war with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"I don't agree with that, and they don't agree with it, apparently," Sanders told Semafor in a phone interview. "It was withdrawn today, so it becomes a non-issue."

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“Democrats, war mongers?” said Sanders. “When you have Putin breaking all kinds of international laws, unleashing an incredibly disgusting and horrific level of destruction against the people of Ukraine?”

petrus je 26. okt 2022 ob 18:59 izjavil:

TezkoDihanje je 20. okt 2022 ob 21:23 izjavil:

A boste že nehali s temi kretenizmi, kako je ZDA v interesu propad EU.

Kolikokrat ti mora Victoria Nuland v obraz rečt, da se lahko jebeš, preden ti kapne? (njene besede ne moje)

redtech je 26. okt 2022 ob 18:28 izjavil:

Bakhmut je pomembno cestno in železniško križišče.

petrus je 26. okt 2022 ob 18:59 izjavil:

Kolikokrat ti mora Victoria Nuland v obraz rečt, da se lahko jebeš, preden ti kapne? (njene besede ne moje)

Ukrajinski predsednik Viktor Janukovič je ponudil mesto predsednika vlade opozicijskemu voditelju Arseniju Yatsenyuku.

Prav tako je nekdanjemu boksarju Vitaliju Klitschku ponudil položaj namestnika predsednika vlade.

Opozicijski voditelji se niso izrecno izrekli, ali bodo sprejeli ponudbo, vendar so ponovili svoje zahteve po novih predsedniških volitvah.

Ponudba je prišla po sobotnih pogovorih z opozicijo v novih prizadevanjih, da se končajo smrtonosni nemiri, ki so se razširili po vsej državi.

Nuland: OK. Zdaj je dobil tako Serrya in [generalnega sekretarja ZN] Ban Ki-moona, da se strinjata, da bi Serry prišel v ponedeljek ali torek. To bi bilo super, mislim, da bi ZN pomagali zlepili to stvar in saj veš, fuck the EU.

Pyatt: Da, drži. Mislim, da moramo nekaj storiti, da bo stvar obstala, ker si lahko prepričana, da če bo zgodba uspešna, jo bodo Rusi v ozadju poskušali torpedirati. In še dejstvo, da je to prišlo ven prav zdaj, jaz še vedno poskušam ugotoviti, zakaj je Janukovič to predlagal. V tem času poteka sestanek poslanske skupine Stranke regij in prepričan sem, da imajo živahno debato. Kakorkoli, lahko smo uspešni, če hitro ukrepamo. Pusti, da se ukvarjam s Klitschkom in če ti lahko samo... želimo, nekoga z mednarodno osebnostjo, ki bi podprl ta predlog. Druga stvar je kontakt z Janukovičem, vendar se s tem verjetno lahko ukvarjamo jutri, ko bomo videli, kako so stvari začele padati na svoja mesta.

Scaramouche3 je 26. okt 2022 ob 17:47 izjavil:

Super ideja - da bomo v tretje kar sami financirali vojsko, s katero nas bodo potem nemci ponovno razbili.

Za tebe so Nemci under cover NAZI?
Prej bi rekel,da je to da bi bili vsi spleteni v to zadevo, preprečilo Nemcem da postanejo taki, če je to sploh mogoče...

You know that we have a very sick political climate when even suggestions for diplomacy -- ways to end an extremely dangerous war -- are cast as treason, "appeasement," siding with the Enemy, etc. But that's always the playbook. It's why the US is a country in Endless War.

This type of take is pretty common, but it fundamentally misunderstands what "diplomacy" (especially in the context of long-term ceasefires) actually is. The war isn't continuing because diplomats just haven't found the right magic words to end it yet.

First of all, nobody outside of the criminally deranged actually *wants* war. Not Kyiv. Not Paris, Istanbul, Riyadh, London, D.C, you name it. Not even Moscow. It's horrific for everyone, and, frankly, bad for business. Everyone wants peace, but disagree what the peace should be.

In all cases, the disputes tend to be over a wide range of things, some more intractable than others. And sometimes diplomats can horse-trade over the tractable ones to get to an agreement that nobody likes, but everyone can live with.

Here, that's not the case on a range of topics, but most intractably on territorial control. There's no way to talk your way through it. Ukrainians will fight to maintain control of their territory, and remove Russians from occupied regions, and Russians will fight the opposite

That's a dispute that won't be resolved by diplomats. It'll be resolved by the reality of the battlefield situation, which, for now, is not only dynamically contested, but likely to remain contested for a while.

On the Russian side, there's hope that UA allies will stop supporting UA, particularly after a hard winter, and that mobilization will let them consolidate held territory and maybe take more. UA believes that will fail, and that they can deoccupy Russia off of its territory.

One of them is right. The other is wrong. But which it is will be decided by soldiers and generals, not diplomats. You won't be able to find magic words to persuade Russia (or Ukraine) that wish the war away in the meantime. Diplomats are great, but they're not magicians.

This means there's no magic diplomacy wand to be waved over the battlefield to end the conflict, at least not in the short-to-medium term, because it'll require (at minimum) resolving how much the West backs off over Winter and how much mobilization changes the conflict next year

That's not to say that diplomacy isn't happening in the meantime, or diplomats are waiting around. There's lots of diplomacy short-of-ceasefire happening every day designed to pressure R (or, in R's case, the inverse) to see the situation as intractable and end it sooner

That ranges from alliance management, to financial support, sanctions enforcement, diplomatic signaling on redlines, NGO access to denied regions, as well as enabling prisoner swaps, each of which is a huge diplomatic task in their own right, across multiple nations.

Anyway, all of which is to say, everyone--everyone--wants peace, and diplomacy *is* happening every day to make that happen. But "diplomacy" is also not a magic wand, nor is merely accepting or restating Russian terms verbatim a practical or particularly helpful addition to it

And that a lasting ceasefire isn't going to come from magic words to persuade everyone to stop; it'll be defined on the battlefield itself, and unlikely before next year. Support to UA will give a negotiating advantage for them when that happens. Withdrawing support, the opposite