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Volitve v ZDA 2020
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HulkHogan ::
c3p0 ::
Poldi112 ::
Sistem je kakršen je, spremeni se ga lahko samo z zmagami na volitvah. Vsem normalnim je jasno, da je podpora tretjim strankam na zveznem nivoju donkihotska borba z mlini na veter, ki pogosto naredi več škode kot koristi.
Sistem kakršen je, je osnovan na ideji, da ljudje nimajo izbire. In tisti, ki pravijo, da je glas za 3. kandidata škodljiv, dobesedno podpirajo oligarhijo in škodijo demokraciji z marginalizacijo in demonizacijo kandidatov, ki do dejansko kakovostni. In to plačujejo tudi z arestom!
Zakaj bi nekdo, ki celo življenje gleda, kako ena in druga stranka kradeta denar, njemu pa standard pada, volil za Wall Street namesto za neodvisnega kandidata? Ker bo zmagal napačen kandidat oligarhije? The horror!
Kako je Jill Stein kriva, da je Hillary svojim medijem naročila, naj boostajo Trumpa, ker je hotela biti v finalu proti norcu?
Si sploh prebral memo?Šlo je za notranjo komunikacijo med DNC in zametkom kampanje HRC, preden je naznanila kandidaturo. Ideja je bila, da bi hypali bolj ekstremne kandidate (Cruz, Trump, Carson) z upanjem, da jim ostali sledijo in postanejo neprivlačni generalnemu elektoratu. Niso računali, da bo kdo od tria adijo zmagal.
Seveda sem ga prebral. Kaj ni jasno?
Kako je Jill Stein kriva, da je Hillary ukradla nominacijo Berniju, pomagala Trumpu dobiti republikansko nominacijo, nato pa pupušila proti njemu?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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mtosev ::
Kak se je Biden izkazal? Ma kdo kakšen recap/best moments.
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Poldi112 ::
Pogledal ene 15 min in vse, kar sem izvedel je, da je Biden kognitivno povsem ok.
Je pa Trump izrazil podporo nacijem, ki so, podobno kot KKK šef ob Charlottesville incidentu, navdušeni.
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/30/neo...
Je pa Trump izrazil podporo nacijem, ki so, podobno kot KKK šef ob Charlottesville incidentu, navdušeni.
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/30/neo...
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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Poldi112 ::
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Pac-Man ::
livetweeting debate, nit:
https://twitter.com/TheRealHoarse/statu...
Povzetek:
While they roll through the last of answers no one will hear, remember or be influenced by, I might as well sum up the net-takeaways IMHO.
Trump hasn't helped himself at all.
Biden did just fine. Not sure he gained ground but he certainly didn't lose any.
In the immediate aftermath, both camps will say their guy did great.
By midday tomorrow at the latest though, we'll hear the rumbles from anonymous Republican strategists grousing about how Trump was a one-trick pony who lost his giddy-up.
There is going to be a fair amount of single malt scotch grimly consumed later tonight by establishment Rs who were hoping Trump could somehow reverse course and not drag down-ballot candidates to the bottom of Lake Travis with him.
Paging Ernst, McSally, Collins. Bad news.
And I stand corrected.
Trump just urged his people to go into polls to "watch".
That's actually entirely illegal.
Trump just "urged" his nutbag dim bulbs to commit a crime on Election Day.
Trump's biggest soundbite from tonight will be the one where he encouraged criminality.
...
Trump is in the "winback phase" of a brand's lifecycle.
Was once more popular. Has lost support. Facing an urgent need to both stem erosion and win back some former customers.
And he has no aptitude for any of that. He is incapable.
If I'm the Biden Campaign, I'm happy to ecstatic about tonight and feeling pretty darn good about being able to repeat the success in the remaining debates.
If I'm the Trump Campaign, I'm drinking heavily and nervously plotting ways to keep Trump from watching TV tomorrow.
Above all, I'm relieved.
Our guy faced what can be a really disorienting, overpowering thing: a raging narcissist fully bent on pressing your buttons.
And he weathered that storm well.
And he'll replicate what worked and smooth what could have been better for next time.
https://twitter.com/TheRealHoarse/statu...
Povzetek:
While they roll through the last of answers no one will hear, remember or be influenced by, I might as well sum up the net-takeaways IMHO.
Trump hasn't helped himself at all.
Biden did just fine. Not sure he gained ground but he certainly didn't lose any.
In the immediate aftermath, both camps will say their guy did great.
By midday tomorrow at the latest though, we'll hear the rumbles from anonymous Republican strategists grousing about how Trump was a one-trick pony who lost his giddy-up.
There is going to be a fair amount of single malt scotch grimly consumed later tonight by establishment Rs who were hoping Trump could somehow reverse course and not drag down-ballot candidates to the bottom of Lake Travis with him.
Paging Ernst, McSally, Collins. Bad news.
And I stand corrected.
Trump just urged his people to go into polls to "watch".
That's actually entirely illegal.
Trump just "urged" his nutbag dim bulbs to commit a crime on Election Day.
Trump's biggest soundbite from tonight will be the one where he encouraged criminality.
...
Trump is in the "winback phase" of a brand's lifecycle.
Was once more popular. Has lost support. Facing an urgent need to both stem erosion and win back some former customers.
And he has no aptitude for any of that. He is incapable.
If I'm the Biden Campaign, I'm happy to ecstatic about tonight and feeling pretty darn good about being able to repeat the success in the remaining debates.
If I'm the Trump Campaign, I'm drinking heavily and nervously plotting ways to keep Trump from watching TV tomorrow.
Above all, I'm relieved.
Our guy faced what can be a really disorienting, overpowering thing: a raging narcissist fully bent on pressing your buttons.
And he weathered that storm well.
And he'll replicate what worked and smooth what could have been better for next time.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/me...
Zanimiv dokument o Hillary in rusih.
Zelo zanimivo. Rusi so spustili v eter, da želi Hillary obremeniti Trumpa z ruskimi povezavami, zdaj pa politično nastavljen DNI, pri katerem so se ob prvem poskusu imenovanja pojavila vprašanja, da bi znal politizirat obveščevalne podatke, politizira obveščevalne podatke. Quelle Suprise.
John Ratcliffe (American politician) @ Wikipedia
Ratcliffe withdrew after Republican senators raised concerns about him, former intelligence officials said he might politicize intelligence, and media revealed Ratcliffe's embellishments regarding his prosecutorial experience in terrorism and immigration cases.[9][10][11][12]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
"In late July 2016, U.S. intelligence agencies obtained insight into Russian intelligence analys"
Ti si to prebral kot "rusi so spustili v eter"?
Ja, piše tudi "The IC does not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which the Russian intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication."
A kot smo videli, NSA, CIA, ... Mueller, noben ni uspel sproducirati dokazov o ruskem vmešavanju. Očitno je šlo za klasično preusmerjanje pozornosti, ko Hillary ni želela govoriti o svoji svinjariji, ampak je pozornost preusmerjala na ruse.
Ti si to prebral kot "rusi so spustili v eter"?
Ja, piše tudi "The IC does not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which the Russian intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication."
A kot smo videli, NSA, CIA, ... Mueller, noben ni uspel sproducirati dokazov o ruskem vmešavanju. Očitno je šlo za klasično preusmerjanje pozornosti, ko Hillary ni želela govoriti o svoji svinjariji, ampak je pozornost preusmerjala na ruse.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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Pac-Man ::
Dude, v obtožnici imaš dobesedno play-by-play kako so na GRU hekali DNC.
Lahko začneš na str. 6.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/do...
Lahko začneš na str. 6.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/do...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
Ne hvala. Če bi Hillary predala svoj server FBI, ki ga je hotel analizirat, bi se mogoče še spravil, ker so ga pa dali privat prijateljski firmi, pa nekako ne zaupam vsemu skupaj. Plus da je povsem irelevantno. Vsaj meji je povsem očitno, da ni izgubila zaradi rusov, ampak ker je antipatična kandidatka oligarhije, ki je ukradla nominacijo Berniju.
Prej ko se boste demokrati sprijaznili z dejstvom, da rinete in zagovarjate katastrofalne kanditate, prej bo prišlo do sprememb.
10% demokratov je volilo Trumpa. Prokleti rusi! Jebeni neodvisni kandidati! Živel establishment!
Lahko pa veselo konzumirate "lesser of 2 evils" in nadaljujete rušenje zahodnih vrednost.
Prej ko se boste demokrati sprijaznili z dejstvom, da rinete in zagovarjate katastrofalne kanditate, prej bo prišlo do sprememb.
10% demokratov je volilo Trumpa. Prokleti rusi! Jebeni neodvisni kandidati! Živel establishment!
Lahko pa veselo konzumirate "lesser of 2 evils" in nadaljujete rušenje zahodnih vrednost.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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Smrekar1 ::
Ne hvala. Če bi Hillary predala svoj server FBI, ki ga je hotel analizirat, bi se mogoče še spravil, ker so ga pa dali privat prijateljski firmi, pa nekako ne zaupam vsemu skupaj. Plus da je povsem irelevantno. Vsaj meji je povsem očitno, da ni izgubila zaradi rusov, ampak ker je antipatična kandidatka oligarhije, ki je ukradla nominacijo Berniju.
"Ukradla nominacijo"
"Dobila več glasov" je boljši izraz. 12 odstotnih točk več pač ni "ukradeno", Bernie je pušnil. Izgubil. Propadel. Samo njegovi zagovedni podporniki, na nivoju MAGA pacientov, govorijo drugače.
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Pac-Man ::
Ne hvala. Nočem brat ničesar, kar bi lahko spremenilo mojo slepo prepričanje.
FIFY.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
"Dobila več glasov" je boljši izraz. 12 odstotnih točk več pač ni "ukradeno", Bernie je pušnil. Izgubil. Propadel. Samo njegovi zagovedni podporniki, na nivoju MAGA pacientov, govorijo drugače.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the...
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Poldi112 ::
Ne hvala. Nočem brat ničesar, kar bi lahko spremenilo mojo slepo prepričanje.
FIFY.
Kolega, nisem jaz tisti, ki slepo zaupa US propagandi, kljub temu, da ne predstavite nobenega dokaza, da je izgubila zaradi rusov. A so ji hacknili v server? Povsem možno, a hkrati irelevantno.
Tako kot je irelevantno, kdo je na Wikileaks poslal njene maile. Tega enostavno ne vemo. No, veste vi, ki slepo verjamete notoričnim lažnivcem. Lahko je bil kdorkoli. Ignoriranje vsebine ter laganje glede avtentičnosti njenih mailov, pa jasno kaže, da so bili rusi zgolj grešni kozel.
In kar je najbolj fascinantno - še kar so. Mueller dokaže, da ni bilo vmešavanja v volite, ampak eni ne morete preboleti, da je izbugila, ker je zanič.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Smrekar1 ::
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the...
To je nekako tako kot tiste trditve Jareda Kushnerja o svojem tastu.
Tistemu tudi verjameš?
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Poldi112 ::
Kolega, pojma nimam o čem govorite, a če želite biti konstruktini raje povejte, glede česa se članek moti?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Fritz ::
Ne hvala. Nočem brat ničesar, kar bi lahko spremenilo mojo slepo prepričanje.
FIFY.
Lepo ti je argumentiral odgovor in ti se še vedno delaš neumnega. zadeva je bila zelo dobro skonstruirana, čeprav so dobro vedeli, da jih ruski obveščevalci trolajo.
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/131...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Obama was personally briefed on Russia's knowledge of Clinton's plans.
TEŽKA implikacija. Morda je bil seznanjen z ruskimi poskusi dezinformacije? Sliši se važno.
nit o anketah, najbolj zanimiv del spodaj
https://twitter.com/kabir_here/status/1...
Ahead of tomorrow's debate, combined our battleground state data from this month to see how many voters signal some level of persuadability
A mere 4-6% per state say they're unsure between Trump and Biden — lower numbers than in '16
(Note: states polled in different weeks)
Along these lines, only 6% of likely voters nationwide say they're watching debate today to decide who to vote for
73% say they're watching to see how their candidate does
Pre-debate poll fielded Sep 25-28 by @YouGov — more about it at @CBSNewsPoll blog
This is kinda interesting, aside from just who "won" debate
Slightly more watchers say debate made them think better of Biden (38%) than worse of him (32%): nets to +6
When it comes to Trump, more watchers say it made them think worse (42%) than better of him (24%): nets to -18
Se zgodi, če mesece psihiraš javnost kako je tvoj nasprotnik dementen, nato pa na dan D prikažeš nevrotično predstavo. Bidnu se pozna njegovih 77 let, je pa daleč od demence.
TEŽKA implikacija. Morda je bil seznanjen z ruskimi poskusi dezinformacije? Sliši se važno.
nit o anketah, najbolj zanimiv del spodaj
https://twitter.com/kabir_here/status/1...
Ahead of tomorrow's debate, combined our battleground state data from this month to see how many voters signal some level of persuadability
A mere 4-6% per state say they're unsure between Trump and Biden — lower numbers than in '16
(Note: states polled in different weeks)
73% say they're watching to see how their candidate does
Pre-debate poll fielded Sep 25-28 by @YouGov — more about it at @CBSNewsPoll blog
Slightly more watchers say debate made them think better of Biden (38%) than worse of him (32%): nets to +6
When it comes to Trump, more watchers say it made them think worse (42%) than better of him (24%): nets to -18
Se zgodi, če mesece psihiraš javnost kako je tvoj nasprotnik dementen, nato pa na dan D prikažeš nevrotično predstavo. Bidnu se pozna njegovih 77 let, je pa daleč od demence.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
Obama was personally briefed on Russia's knowledge of Clinton's plans.
TEŽKA implikacija. Morda je bil seznanjen z ruskimi poskusi dezinformacije? Sliši se važno.
Sicer ne morem odpreti twitter linka, a ker izgleda da gre za nadaljevanje komentiranja prejšnjega poročila, mi prosim povej, kateri odebeljen del se ti zdi pomemben - prvi, ali 2. in 3.
According to his handwritten notes, former Central Intelligence Agency Director Brennan subsequently briefed President Obama and other senior national security officials on the intelligence, including the "alleged approval by Hillary Clinton on July 26, 2016 of a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services."
On 07 September 2016, U.S. intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral to FBI Director James Corney and Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok regarding "U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's approval of a plan concerning U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private mail server."
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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Fritz ::
Se zgodi, če mesece psihiraš javnost kako je tvoj nasprotnik dementen, nato pa na dan D prikažeš nevrotično predstavo. Bidnu se pozna njegovih 77 let, je pa daleč od demence.
Biden je zelo redko tak, običajno kadar ga posebej pripravijo za nastop. Ko tega niso počeli, so ga raje skrivali. Primerov njegovih brainfartov pred kamerami pa je na spletu več kot dovolj.
Kar drži je le to, da Biden četudi je pokvarjenec, tudi s polovico običajnega IQ-ja presega Trumpa. Česar se oligarhi in demokrati ne zavedajo je, da bodo z nadaljevanjem tega kar so počeli zadnjih 40 let na oblast pripeljali populista, ki bo bolj inteligenten in bistveno bolj nevaren kot Trump.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Nothingburger.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/do...
str. 14:
41. On or about June 15, 2016, the Conspirators logged into a Moscow-based server used and managed by Unit 74455 and, between 4:19 PM and 4:56 PM Moscow Standard Time, searched for certain words and phrases, including:
“some hundred sheets”
“some hundreds of sheets”
dcleaks
illuminati
широко известный перевод [widely known translation]
“worldwide known”
“think twice about”
“company’s competence”
42. Later that day, at 7:02 PM Moscow Standard Time, the online persona Guccifer 2.0 published its first post on a blog site created through WordPress. Titled “DNC’s servers hacked by a lone hacker,” the post used numerous English words and phrases that the Conspirators had searched for earlier that day (bolded below):
Worldwide known cyber security company [Company 1] announced that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers had been hacked by “sophisticated” hacker groups.
I’m very pleased the company appreciated my skills so highly))) [. . .]
Here are just a few docs from many thousands I extracted when hacking into DNC’s network. [. . .]
Some hundred sheets! This’s a serious case, isn’t it? [. . .]
I guess [Company 1] customers should think twice about company’s competence.
F[***] the Illuminati and their conspiracies!!!!!!!!! F[***] [Company 1]!!!!!!!!!
Veliki umi iščejo enako.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/do...
str. 14:
41. On or about June 15, 2016, the Conspirators logged into a Moscow-based server used and managed by Unit 74455 and, between 4:19 PM and 4:56 PM Moscow Standard Time, searched for certain words and phrases, including:
“some hundred sheets”
“some hundreds of sheets”
dcleaks
illuminati
широко известный перевод [widely known translation]
“worldwide known”
“think twice about”
“company’s competence”
42. Later that day, at 7:02 PM Moscow Standard Time, the online persona Guccifer 2.0 published its first post on a blog site created through WordPress. Titled “DNC’s servers hacked by a lone hacker,” the post used numerous English words and phrases that the Conspirators had searched for earlier that day (bolded below):
Worldwide known cyber security company [Company 1] announced that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers had been hacked by “sophisticated” hacker groups.
I’m very pleased the company appreciated my skills so highly))) [. . .]
Here are just a few docs from many thousands I extracted when hacking into DNC’s network. [. . .]
Some hundred sheets! This’s a serious case, isn’t it? [. . .]
I guess [Company 1] customers should think twice about company’s competence.
F[***] the Illuminati and their conspiracies!!!!!!!!! F[***] [Company 1]!!!!!!!!!
Veliki umi iščejo enako.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
dild0idis ::
Ker vem, da bo tole koga razjezilo
Zakaj bi se jezil?
Smrekar1 je mislil, da se orange man fani jezimo, ker anketa, baje interna, kaže, da ne gre Orange manu dobro.
Samo glede na to, da orange mani fani nismo ravno največji fani anket v nasprotju s Hillary oz. Biden loverji nas zadeve ne razjezi.
Bomo pa videli kdo bo bolj jezen po volitvah, Biden loverji ali orange man fani?
Nazadnje, ko je orange manu tako slabo kazalo, so bili potem Hillary loverji 4 leta jezni, bo sedaj z Biden loverji kaj drugače?
Ni važno na koga mečeš jedrske, važno je, da ti Lady Gaga poje!
Poldi112 ::
New York police deliberately assaulted dozens of peaceful protesters, medics, and legal observers in one of this summer's most violently repressed protests, trapping people in the streets past a city-imposed curfew before beating and arresting them in what Police Commissioner Dermot Shea described as "a plan which was executed nearly flawlessly."
At least 236 people were arrested at the June 4 protest in the Mott Haven neighborhood of the Bronx, and at least 61 were injured by police, with some left with broken noses and fingers, lost teeth, and potential nerve damage, according to a detailed report released on Wednesday by Human Rights Watch. "The police response to the peaceful Mott Haven protest was intentional, planned, and unjustified," the report concluded. "The protest was peaceful until the police responded with violence."
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/30/nyp...
At least 236 people were arrested at the June 4 protest in the Mott Haven neighborhood of the Bronx, and at least 61 were injured by police, with some left with broken noses and fingers, lost teeth, and potential nerve damage, according to a detailed report released on Wednesday by Human Rights Watch. "The police response to the peaceful Mott Haven protest was intentional, planned, and unjustified," the report concluded. "The protest was peaceful until the police responded with violence."
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/30/nyp...
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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Poldi112 ::
Bomo pa videli kdo bo bolj jezen po volitvah, Biden loverji ali orange man fani?
Glede na to da, orange man že motivira svoje neonacije nekako ni ni dvoma o tem, kdo bo bolj jezen. Vprašanje je zgolj, če bodo uniformirani neonaciji potegnili z njimi.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
dild0idis ::
Orange man je po pravici povedano zelen:
Ni važno na koga mečeš jedrske, važno je, da ti Lady Gaga poje!
tone31 ::
Bomo pa videli kdo bo bolj jezen po volitvah, Biden loverji ali orange man fani?
Glede na to da, orange man že motivira svoje neonacije nekako ni ni dvoma o tem, kdo bo bolj jezen. Vprašanje je zgolj, če bodo uniformirani neonaciji potegnili z njimi.
ni vprasanje
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/we...
Poldi112 ::
Ja, vemo, da mu je nasilje blizu. Dvomim pa, da je blizu tudi demokratom, ki so pred 4. leti volili zanj.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
tone31 ::
Battle of Cable Street @ Wikipedia
vedno cisto vedno policija je na strani nacistom nikoli ni se bilo drugace
samo vojska to lahko se resi ker vojska je antifa
tone31 ::
in to se samo da dodam da biden ni na antifa strani on je rasist saj vidi se v njegovem zivljenju kak pomagal je zajebati ameriko celo z tem da se zapira ljudi za stvari ko se ne tikajo nikoga
Fritz ::
Takšnemu luzerju je nasilje všeč samo od daleč, ko ga izvajajo njegovi oboroženi pristaši proti neoboroženim protestnikom.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kuall ::
Po debati sodeč bo Trump zgubil. Mau ga je bilo težko gledat, ker je skakal v besedo preveč. Si se samo bal, kdaj bo spet Bidna prekinil.
Samuel ::
Po debati sodeč bo Trump zgubil. Mau ga je bilo težko gledat, ker je skakal v besedo preveč. Si se samo bal, kdaj bo spet Bidna prekinil.
Moderator iz FOXa (za nekatere tukaj je FOX pristranski, kar se je lepo pokazalo, da to ni res) je tudi skakal preveč v besedo (Trumpu 75x, Bidenu 15x). Pristransko, ane?
V glavnem, Biden ne podpira ne Green New Deala, ne podpira Bernijevega socializma niti ustavitve frackinga... Zakaj bi že 30% volilnega telesa Demokratov sploh šlo na volitve?
New York police deliberately assaulted dozens of peaceful protesters, medics, and legal observers in one of this summer's most violently repressed protests, trapping people in the streets past a city-imposed curfew before beating and arresting them in what Police Commissioner Dermot Shea described as "a plan which was executed nearly flawlessly."
At least 236 people were arrested at the June 4 protest in the Mott Haven neighborhood of the Bronx, and at least 61 were injured by police, with some left with broken noses and fingers, lost teeth, and potential nerve damage, according to a detailed report released on Wednesday by Human Rights Watch. "The police response to the peaceful Mott Haven protest was intentional, planned, and unjustified," the report concluded. "The protest was peaceful until the police responded with violence."
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/30/nyp...
New York... Guverner Demokrat, župan Demokrat, praktično vse ostalo Demokratska stranka. Ta zgodba se ponavlja po celi ZDA.
Battle of Cable Street @ Wikipedia
vedno cisto vedno policija je na strani nacistom nikoli ni se bilo drugace
samo vojska to lahko se resi ker vojska je antifa
Kako telebanjenje.. jao jao jao..
Ta pravi naciji in fašisti so seveda Demokrati:
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Samuel ::
Moderator iz FOXa (za nekatere tukaj je FOX pristranski, kar se je lepo pokazalo, da to ni res) je tudi skakal preveč v besedo (Trumpu 75x, Bidenu 15x). Pristransko, ane?Učitelj v šoli tudi večkrat "skoči" v besedo motečemu učencu kot pridnemu. Bonton pa take.
Moderator bi moral zahtevat, da Biden odgovarja na vprašanja. Ne pa da nismo od njega zvedeli ničesar.
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Samuel ::
Moderator iz FOXa (za nekatere tukaj je FOX pristranski, kar se je lepo pokazalo, da to ni res) je tudi skakal preveč v besedo (Trumpu 75x, Bidenu 15x). Pristransko, ane?
se strinjam, ko sem pogledal celo debato je bil moderator tisti, ki je bil najbolj nadležen na koncu.
Na tem forumu se non stop posta gnoj iz MSNBCja, CNNa in prikazuje kot sveto resnico, a FOX je edini TV, kjer je ostalo nekaj novinarske nepristranske pameti. Ni čudno, da imajo daleč največ gledalcev na nacionalni ravni.
Ker vsi vemo, da je bil namen tega soočenja izvedeti karkoli. /s
Od novega kandidata bi pa že lahko kaj izvedeli.
Dobesedno pri vsaki pomembni stvari je Biden tam, kjer je Trump.
Zakaj bi ga 30% volilnega telesa Demokratov volilo?
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dild0idis ::
Čeprav tukaj ste eni prav zabavni.
Ko je Trump zmagal, je kar nekaj privržencev Hillary aktivno razbijalo zadeve, določeni privrženci Hillary so imeli panične napade, določeni privrženci Hillary so rabili psihološko pomoč v šolah in službah.
Hillary in njeni privrženci, tudi tukaj, še sedaj aktivno razlagajo, da je zmagala popluar vote in jokajo, da bi moral samo popular vote veljati, še celo na DNC je to omenila.
Demokrati pa že dobra 3 leta jokajo, da je unih pet črnogorcev na Facebooku in una dva Rusa ukradlo volitve.
BLM razbija na polno že koliko mesecev?
Pa smo tukaj pred volitvami in v MSM na veliko brali, da fani orange mana ne bodo priznali volitev in bodo začeli razbijati na polno, fani Hillary bodo pa mirni in se sprijaznili z volitvami.
Sedaj pa isto ponavaljate, samo zamenjali ste ime Hillary z Bidenom!
ps: Plus jokate kako noče Trump kritizirati bele nacionaliste, čeprav je to že večkrat naredil, Biden pa tudi že prej pa tudi na debati ni želel reči karkoli slabega čez Antifo, plus še vedno sanja, da je Antifa ideja in ne organizacija, čeprav je bilo že večkrat dokazano, da so kar konkretno organizirani!
Ko je Trump zmagal, je kar nekaj privržencev Hillary aktivno razbijalo zadeve, določeni privrženci Hillary so imeli panične napade, določeni privrženci Hillary so rabili psihološko pomoč v šolah in službah.
Hillary in njeni privrženci, tudi tukaj, še sedaj aktivno razlagajo, da je zmagala popluar vote in jokajo, da bi moral samo popular vote veljati, še celo na DNC je to omenila.
Demokrati pa že dobra 3 leta jokajo, da je unih pet črnogorcev na Facebooku in una dva Rusa ukradlo volitve.
BLM razbija na polno že koliko mesecev?
Pa smo tukaj pred volitvami in v MSM na veliko brali, da fani orange mana ne bodo priznali volitev in bodo začeli razbijati na polno, fani Hillary bodo pa mirni in se sprijaznili z volitvami.
Sedaj pa isto ponavaljate, samo zamenjali ste ime Hillary z Bidenom!
ps: Plus jokate kako noče Trump kritizirati bele nacionaliste, čeprav je to že večkrat naredil, Biden pa tudi že prej pa tudi na debati ni želel reči karkoli slabega čez Antifo, plus še vedno sanja, da je Antifa ideja in ne organizacija, čeprav je bilo že večkrat dokazano, da so kar konkretno organizirani!
Ni važno na koga mečeš jedrske, važno je, da ti Lady Gaga poje!
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Poldi112 ::
>BLM razbija na polno že koliko mesecev?
Fake news kolega. Klasična neonaci propaganda.
>Plus jokate kako noče Trump kritizirati bele nacionaliste, čeprav je to že večkrat naredil
Ja, zato vsakič praznujejo, ko jih "skritizira".
>Zakaj bi ga 30% volilnega telesa Demokratov volilo?
Ker je vseeno objektivno boljši od Trumpa.
Fake news kolega. Klasična neonaci propaganda.
>Plus jokate kako noče Trump kritizirati bele nacionaliste, čeprav je to že večkrat naredil
Ja, zato vsakič praznujejo, ko jih "skritizira".
>Zakaj bi ga 30% volilnega telesa Demokratov volilo?
Ker je vseeno objektivno boljši od Trumpa.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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Smrekar1 ::
Tole je javno znano že vsaj deset če ne petnajst let. V ameriški policiji so potrebne korenite spremembe. Kdor je kdaj nosil MAGA čepico bo šel po poti stražarjev Berlinskega zidu. Tudi volilno pravico jim znajo vzeti. Žal, drugače ne gre.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi...
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Samuel ::
Fake news kolega. Klasična neonaci propaganda.
Nešteto prizorov nasilja protestnikov, zažiganja stavb, uničevanja lastnine, napadi na mimoidoče... in potem beremo tole... pointless
Ker je vseeno objektivno boljši od Trumpa.
Absolutno je boljši pri rihtanju poslov preko političnih pritiskov za svojega sina Hunterja.
PS: V ZDA ene 100 miljonov folka ne voli. Pa bo še dodatnih 5-10 miljonov...
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Poldi112 ::
Fake news kolega. Klasična neonaci propaganda.
Nešteto prizorov nasilja protestnikov, zažiganja stavb, uničevanja lastnine, napadi na mimoidoče... in potem beremo tole... pointless
Ker je vseeno objektivno boljši od Trumpa.
Absolutno je boljši pri rihtanju poslov preko političnih pritiskov za svojega sina Hunterja.
PS: V ZDA ene 100 miljonov folka ne voli. Pa bo še dodatnih 5-10 miljonov...
Oni, ki zažigajo, pač niso miroljubni. Zgodovnina nas pa uči, da take policaji pogosto podtaknejo, ali pa jih vsaj ignorirajo, ker s tem dobijo izgovor za svoje nasilje.
Če padate na te oslarije, ste pač maloumni. Nihče ne trdi, da ni vandalizma, ampak problem je, da policaji raje pretepajo miroljubne protestnike, namesto da bi preganjali vandale.
Vaš argument, zakaj je Biden slabši, je na ravni osnovnošolčka, kolega. Naj vam pokažem, kako se to dela:
Trump je objektivno slabši, ker:
- javno spodbuja policijsko nasilje
- za fotosession nasilno prežene miroljubne protestnike
- ruši zaupanje v demokracijo z ustvarjanjem dvoma v legitimnost volitev ter v ta namen sabotira pošto
- pomilosti svoje rokovnjače, ki jih pravosodje obsodi in vtakne v arest
- aktivno spodbuja neonacije in njihovo nasilje
- uničuje okolje z ukinitvijo vseh možnih regulacij
- fila ustavno sodišče z onimi, ki so se izkazali s krajo zmage Al Gore-u
- stopnjuje nasilje nad civilisti v suverenih državah
- namesto spopada s covid ruši zaupanje v stroko
- denar, namenjen za zaščitno opremo zdravnikov, preusmerja vojski
...
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.