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Volitve v ZDA 2020
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BigWhale ::
V Wisconsinu so zakljucili s ponovnim stetjem, ki ga je financirala Trumpova administracija. Po ponovno prestetih glasovih je Biden se malenkost povecal vodstvo. :)))
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wiscon...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wiscon...
Fritz ::
Biden je med ostalimi warmongerji in Israel Firsterji sedaj v bodoči administraciji predvidel Clintonino prijateljico Neero Tanden, ki jo MSM prodajajo kot progresivno ali levičarko.
Neera Tanden, who is Biden's pick for OMB director, is ardent opponent of Medicare For All.
https://theintercept.com/2015/11/05/lea...
@ Big Whale - v čem je problem, če kritiziram Demokrate in njihovo sestavo nove administracije, glede na to, da je to neposredno povezano z volitvami, dokler novi predsednik ne bo zaprisegel?
Neera Tanden, who is Biden's pick for OMB director, is ardent opponent of Medicare For All.
https://theintercept.com/2015/11/05/lea...
@ Big Whale - v čem je problem, če kritiziram Demokrate in njihovo sestavo nove administracije, glede na to, da je to neposredno povezano z volitvami, dokler novi predsednik ne bo zaprisegel?
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Mike_Rotch ::
Biden je med ostalimi warmongerji in Israel Firsterji sedaj v bodoči administraciji predvidel Clintonino prijateljico Neero Tanden, ki jo MSM prodajajo kot progresivno ali levičarko.
A šteješ Trumpa med warmongerje?
Master_Yoda ::
Republikanski predsednik nagrabi denarja za svoje, "zajebe drzavo" -> Naslednje volitve zmaga demokrat ker je bilo dovolj republikanskega zajeba -> Nic se ne spremeni v 8 letih (razen tega da si je par demokratskih prijateljev napolnilo zepe) in folk ima dovolj -> Izvoljen Republikanec -> GOTO Begining.
Zmagajo pa bogatasi.
P.S. Pa ne vem od kot je sedaj v nekaterih novicah Biden kao progresivec, ce je bil podpredsednik Obame (ki je veljal za progresivca) zato ker je bil bolj konservativen - da je Obama dobil konservativne neodlocene.
Zmagajo pa bogatasi.
P.S. Pa ne vem od kot je sedaj v nekaterih novicah Biden kao progresivec, ce je bil podpredsednik Obame (ki je veljal za progresivca) zato ker je bil bolj konservativen - da je Obama dobil konservativne neodlocene.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.
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Mike_Rotch ::
Ni res, da se nič ne spremeni. Demokrati so objektivno boljši od republikancev pri vodenju države (in zveznih držav in posameznih mest).
Master_Yoda ::
A niso nasilni protesti proti policijskemu nasilju v vecini mest kjer so demokratski zupani (ki imajo cez policijo), v zveznih drzavah kjer so demokratski guvernerji ?
P.S. Ne podpiram republikancev, ampak demokratov trenutnih pa tudi ne najbolje. Upam da prevzamejo vodenje demokrati kot so AOC v prihodnosti. Ker ta fight left vs right je povecini smokescreen za revni vs. middle class vs. bogati
P.S. Ne podpiram republikancev, ampak demokratov trenutnih pa tudi ne najbolje. Upam da prevzamejo vodenje demokrati kot so AOC v prihodnosti. Ker ta fight left vs right je povecini smokescreen za revni vs. middle class vs. bogati
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.
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Mike_Rotch ::
A niso nasilni protesti proti policijskemu nasilju v vecini mest kjer so demokratski zupani (ki imajo cez policijo), v zveznih drzavah kjer so demokratski guvernerji ?
Ne. Nasilja je bilo v resnici zelo malo, porazdelitev je dokaj enakomerna. Poleg tega protesti še zdaleč niso edini faktor.
P.S. Ne podpiram republikancev, ampak demokratov trenutnih pa tudi ne najbolje. Upam da prevzamejo vodenje demokrati kot so AOC v prihodnosti. Ker ta fight left vs right je povecini smokescreen za revni vs. middle class vs. bogati
Tudi jaz bi raje videl na oblasti levičarje. Ampak to ne spremeni dejstva, da so demokrati bistveno boljši. Kdor pravi, da sta Obama in Biden isto sranje kot Trump, ne ve kaj govori.
kow ::
Master_Yoda je izjavil:
P.S. Ne podpiram republikancev, ampak demokratov trenutnih pa tudi ne najbolje. Upam da prevzamejo vodenje demokrati kot so AOC v prihodnosti. Ker ta fight left vs right je povecini smokescreen za revni vs. middle class vs. bogati
Revni imajo sanse sele, ko je srednji razred (ki se ga zaenkrat uspesno podkupuje z delniskim in nepremicninskim trgom) dovolj majhen. Ker srednji razred ne sovrazi bogatune - upajo, da bodo joinali in upajo da majo vsaj priblizno sanso. Revezi pac ne. Trumpa so volili sicer ravno revni, da bi razbili status quo. Na nek nacin jim je uspelo. Bomo videli kaj bo z bidenom, nisem kaj pretirano optimisticen.
Fritz ::
Mike_Rotch je izjavil:
Tudi jaz bi raje videl na oblasti levičarje. Ampak to ne spremeni dejstva, da so demokrati bistveno boljši. Kdor pravi, da sta Obama in Biden isto sranje kot Trump, ne ve kaj govori.
Nista isto sranje a sta na svoj način še slabša. Seveda sta bolj inteligentna in elokventna (v kolikor Bidna ne daje demenca, seveda) a sta podpornika neoliberalizma, ki je pripeljal Trumpa na oblast. Wannabe fašistični avtokrat Trump je na srečo premalo inteligenten in sposoben, da bi zadevo speljal do konca a bo po Bidnu in njegovem poskusu vse vrniti na iste tirnice kot pred Trumpom dobil možnost za drugi mandat ali pa bo to možnost dobil še kak nevarnejši in inteligentnejši populist kot je to Trump.
Seveda je Trump warmonger, to je v opisu del in nalog ameriškega predsednika a se mi zdi, da mu je uspelo manj kot predhodnikom. Na srečo, vendar raje počakajmo do konca mandata, ker se Bibi trudi zanetiti vojno z Iranom na vsak način, Trump pa je ves mandat zvesto izpolnjeval želje AIPACA in Tel Aviva.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Mike_Rotch ::
Nista isto sranje a sta na svoj način še slabša.
Ne, nista. Obama je na praktično vseh področjih, ki jih je možno objektivno oceniti opravil nalogo veliko boljše.
Seveda je Trump warmonger, to je v opisu del in nalog ameriškega predsednika a se mi zdi, da mu je uspelo manj kot predhodnikom.
Manj v kakšnem smislu? Pod Trumpom se je povečalo število civilnih žrtev, število napadov z droni, število vojakov na tujih ozemljih se ni bistveno znižalo.
Fritz ::
Mike_Rotch je izjavil:
Ne, nista. Obama je na praktično vseh področjih, ki jih je možno objektivno oceniti opravil nalogo veliko boljše.
Manj v kakšnem smislu? Pod Trumpom se je povečalo število civilnih žrtev, število napadov z droni, število vojakov na tujih ozemljih se ni bistveno znižalo.
Sta. A kot bi ti rekel, pač ne veš o čem govoriš. Svet si je v času Trumpa malce opomogel odvisnosti od ZDA.
Glede na to, da Trumpu kljub naporom in ekonomskim vojnam zoper Kubo, Venezuelo, Iran, Rusijo in Kitajsko ni uspelo začeti nove vroče vojne je to manj. Ja, malce bolj so dronali po Afganistanu a ne pozabiti, da sta se Sirija in Yemen začeli v času Obame in da tamkajšnje število žrtev večkratno presega Afganistan. Poleg tega je Trump prekinil operacijo Timber Sycamore in s tem oslabil džihadiste v Siriji.
Biden/Obama sta le uglajeni verziji Trumpa, lastniki so enaki.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
3 minute, šef volitev v Georgiji ima problem z vodstvom republikanske stranke.
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/13...
Video, which is worth your time. You don't see many statements like this from public officials, especially not ones directed at the leading figures of his own party.
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/13...
Video, which is worth your time. You don't see many statements like this from public officials, especially not ones directed at the leading figures of his own party.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Massacra ::
Trump has reportedly floated the idea of preemptively pardoning his three eldest children and son-in-law, as well as his personal lawyer and conspiracy monger Rudy Giuliani.
It appears he got the idea from watching Sean Hannity, who warned that Biden's Justice Department would be vindictive and go after Trump and his family once Trump has left office. It's not unusual for presidents to pardon their allies as their presidencies wind down -- both George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton came under scrutiny for doing so in their lame duck sessions.
But Trump has wielded his pardoning power much more aggressively than previous presidents, most recently commuting the sentence of his staunch ally Roger Stone and issuing a blanket pardon to Michael Flynn. And granting someone a pardon for crimes they have not yet committed or been charged with is unprecedented -- but to be expected from the scandal-ridden and crime-laden tenure of Trump. It looks like he will continue wielding the power of the presidency to benefit himself and his friends until his very last hour in office.
It appears he got the idea from watching Sean Hannity, who warned that Biden's Justice Department would be vindictive and go after Trump and his family once Trump has left office. It's not unusual for presidents to pardon their allies as their presidencies wind down -- both George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton came under scrutiny for doing so in their lame duck sessions.
But Trump has wielded his pardoning power much more aggressively than previous presidents, most recently commuting the sentence of his staunch ally Roger Stone and issuing a blanket pardon to Michael Flynn. And granting someone a pardon for crimes they have not yet committed or been charged with is unprecedented -- but to be expected from the scandal-ridden and crime-laden tenure of Trump. It looks like he will continue wielding the power of the presidency to benefit himself and his friends until his very last hour in office.
Bwaze6 ::
Ampak Trumpu ne pride nič do živega. Zapustil ga je pravosodni minister Barr, še Giuliani je priznal, da v svojih obtožbah pretirava, "Krakena" kar ni in ni, Trump pa ima "najpomembnejši govor svojega predsedovanja":
Demokrati naj bi izrabili pandemijo za protiustavno spreminjanje volilnih zakonov, Trump je "determined to protect our election system, which is now under coordinated assault and siege", njegovi sledilci pa so iz dneva v dan bolj besni nad namišljenimi "očitnim goljufijami" ...
"Grožnje s smrtjo, fizične grožnje, nadlegovanje - to je preveč. To ni prav. Ljudje so izgubili moralni kompas. Nimam najboljših besed, ker sem jezen," je dejal Gabriel Sterling, pomočnik državnega sekretarja v Georgii, zadolžen za izvedbo volitev.
"Grozijo republikanskim uradnikom na različnih ravneh, od državnega sekretarja naprej. 20-letnemu zunanjemu sodelavcu volilne komisije v enem od okrožij v Georgii grozijo z obešenjem, ker je opravil svoje delo. Eden od Trumpovih odvetnikov Joe DiGenova je v intervjuju izjavil, da bi morali zdaj že nekdanjega direktorja Agencije za kibernetsko in infrastrukturno varnost Chrisa Krebsa zaradi izjave o varnih volitvah ustreliti."
Tole na koncu je RTV SLO še malce omilil:
"Anybody who thinks the election went well, like that idiot Krebs who used to be the head of cybersecurity. That guy is a class A moron. He should be drawn and quartered. Taken out at dawn and shot."
Čisto normalen poziv, in Kerbs je republikanec, na to mesto ga je postavila Trumpova administracija.
While it has long been understood that the Democrat political machine engages in voter fraud - from Detroit to Philadelphia to Milwaukee, Atlanta, so many other places - what changed this year was the Democrat Party's relentless push to print and mail out tens of millions of ballots, sent to unknown recipients with virtually no safeguards of any kind
Demokrati naj bi izrabili pandemijo za protiustavno spreminjanje volilnih zakonov, Trump je "determined to protect our election system, which is now under coordinated assault and siege", njegovi sledilci pa so iz dneva v dan bolj besni nad namišljenimi "očitnim goljufijami" ...
"Grožnje s smrtjo, fizične grožnje, nadlegovanje - to je preveč. To ni prav. Ljudje so izgubili moralni kompas. Nimam najboljših besed, ker sem jezen," je dejal Gabriel Sterling, pomočnik državnega sekretarja v Georgii, zadolžen za izvedbo volitev.
"Grozijo republikanskim uradnikom na različnih ravneh, od državnega sekretarja naprej. 20-letnemu zunanjemu sodelavcu volilne komisije v enem od okrožij v Georgii grozijo z obešenjem, ker je opravil svoje delo. Eden od Trumpovih odvetnikov Joe DiGenova je v intervjuju izjavil, da bi morali zdaj že nekdanjega direktorja Agencije za kibernetsko in infrastrukturno varnost Chrisa Krebsa zaradi izjave o varnih volitvah ustreliti."
Tole na koncu je RTV SLO še malce omilil:
"Anybody who thinks the election went well, like that idiot Krebs who used to be the head of cybersecurity. That guy is a class A moron. He should be drawn and quartered. Taken out at dawn and shot."
Čisto normalen poziv, in Kerbs je republikanec, na to mesto ga je postavila Trumpova administracija.
Massacra ::
Kako to misliš, da mu ne pride nič do živega? Volitve je zgubil, zdaj bo pa neke vrste amnestijo V NAPREJ podelil sebi, svojim 3 otrokom, zetu in odvetniku Gulianiju.
Dokazal v zvezi z volilnimj prevarami ni ničesar. Od donorjev je pokasiral denar in nekateri ga že zahtevajk nazaj.
Koliko denarnih nagrad je podelil oni republikanski senator iz Texasa, če kdo prinese KONKRETEN dokaz kakšne prevare na volitvah? Fond je bil 1mio USD.
Dokazal v zvezi z volilnimj prevarami ni ničesar. Od donorjev je pokasiral denar in nekateri ga že zahtevajk nazaj.
Koliko denarnih nagrad je podelil oni republikanski senator iz Texasa, če kdo prinese KONKRETEN dokaz kakšne prevare na volitvah? Fond je bil 1mio USD.
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Smrekar1 ::
Koliko denarnih nagrad je podelil oni republikanski senator iz Texasa, če kdo prinese KONKRETEN dokaz kakšne prevare na volitvah? Fond je bil 1mio USD.
Dokazali so vsaj tri prevare, izplačali niso nobene nagrade.
Morda zato, ker so vse tri prevare izvajali Republikanci v korist Donaldu Trumpu?
Bwaze6 ::
Padle tožbe ne štejejo, ker so očitno tudi republikanski sodniki "Republicans only by name".
Zdaj trumpisti po ZDA na veliko pozivajo k uvedbi vojnega stanja, razveljavitvi rezultatov in ponovnega voljenja izključno osebno, namesto (skorumpiranih) volilnih komisij pa naj bi vse vodila vojska.
"When the legislators, courts and/or Congress fail to do their duty under the 12th Amendment, you must be ready Mr President to immediately declare a limited form of Martial Law, and temporarily suspend the Constitution and civilian control of these federal elections, for the sole purpose of having the military oversee a national re-vote."
In tega ne širijo neki random ekstremisti, poziv" We The People Convention" zdaj delijo tudi ljudje blizu Trumpa (sveže pomiloščeni Flynn, na primer), da bo morala posredovati vojska, je omenil tudi že Trump.
Zdaj trumpisti po ZDA na veliko pozivajo k uvedbi vojnega stanja, razveljavitvi rezultatov in ponovnega voljenja izključno osebno, namesto (skorumpiranih) volilnih komisij pa naj bi vse vodila vojska.
"When the legislators, courts and/or Congress fail to do their duty under the 12th Amendment, you must be ready Mr President to immediately declare a limited form of Martial Law, and temporarily suspend the Constitution and civilian control of these federal elections, for the sole purpose of having the military oversee a national re-vote."
In tega ne širijo neki random ekstremisti, poziv" We The People Convention" zdaj delijo tudi ljudje blizu Trumpa (sveže pomiloščeni Flynn, na primer), da bo morala posredovati vojska, je omenil tudi že Trump.
Mike_Rotch ::
Bistvo vsega je,da dokazi so,goljufija je bla
Mislim, da voter supression ni ravno goljufija. Kljub temu pa to ni ravno demokraciji prijazno ravnanje.
Pac-Man ::
Video zaslišanja v Michiganskem kongresu, 2 minuti. Na njeni levi je Rudi, ki deluje še bolj zgubljen od gospe.
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
Trump’s star witness is Myrtle Beach drunk.
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
Trump’s star witness is Myrtle Beach drunk.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mike_Rotch ::
Video zaslišanja v Michiganskem kongresu, 2 minuti. Na njeni levi je Rudi, ki deluje še bolj zgubljen od gospe.
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
Trump’s star witness is Myrtle Beach drunk.
Najbolj sem se nasmejal, ko je omenila 120% volilno udeležbo. Verjetno je slišala, da je bila letos udeležba 120% tiste izpred 4 let, ampak ji kurji možgani niso uspeli sprocesirat tega podatka :)
Ganon ::
Včerajšnji 45-minutni govor ste poslušali? Na televiziji ga niso prenašali. Če vam je do smeha, se splača.
Smrekar1 ::
Pac-Man ::
Včeraj sta imela Lin Wood in Sidney Powell v Georgiji tiskovko, kjer je Lin pozval MAGA sceno naj ne glasujejo za republikanska kandidata. Nista dovolj servilna do predsednika.
Trump War Room t.j. republikanski operativci ga snajpajo nazaj, Qjevci so zmedeni.
https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/...
Q did not predict the Trump campaign burning L. Lin Wood.
V drugih novicah - med zaslišanjem v Michiganu je Rudi enega spohal.
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1...
Republikanski odvetnik s Floride se je za runoff fiktivno preselil v Georgijo, k temu spodbuja tudi druge. Voter fraud, čeprav uporablja "smo se samo hecali" obrambo. Je v preiskavi.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/flo...
A Florida attorney is at the center of a new state investigation after elections officials say he recently attempted to register to vote in Georgia and instructed other Florida Republicans on how to do it .
Bill Price is seen in a now-deleted Facebook Live video, speaking to the Bay County GOP members in Florida on Nov. 7th. It was about half an hour after the election was called for the Joe Biden-Kamala Harris ticket.
Trump War Room t.j. republikanski operativci ga snajpajo nazaj, Qjevci so zmedeni.
https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/...
Q did not predict the Trump campaign burning L. Lin Wood.
V drugih novicah - med zaslišanjem v Michiganu je Rudi enega spohal.
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1...
Republikanski odvetnik s Floride se je za runoff fiktivno preselil v Georgijo, k temu spodbuja tudi druge. Voter fraud, čeprav uporablja "smo se samo hecali" obrambo. Je v preiskavi.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/flo...
A Florida attorney is at the center of a new state investigation after elections officials say he recently attempted to register to vote in Georgia and instructed other Florida Republicans on how to do it .
Bill Price is seen in a now-deleted Facebook Live video, speaking to the Bay County GOP members in Florida on Nov. 7th. It was about half an hour after the election was called for the Joe Biden-Kamala Harris ticket.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Nit & članek.
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
You need to read this great piece by @RuleandRuin about how the GOP got where it is. You should read it because it answers the important questions.
1. What happened?
2. How could you have been in the GOP?
3. Does the left have this problem?
First, Kabaservice explains how the Tea Party was really a movement of people who hated everything about government (except for stuff they wanted), and how badly they sucked at the job of governing. The Tea Party died because "I hate this job" is not how you build a party.
Second, Geoff notes that every cycle of GOP populism was subsumed by people who knew they had to actually govern, which is how Goldwater, Reagan, and even Boehner became more moderate over time. That's how parties work.
And everything Geoff writes about the Right could be said, in terms of dynamics, about the Left, which tamed its hard-edge elements in 1968, 1974, 1992. As it should. The Dems have not had a tea party; maybe that's structurally not possible now, I don't know. (But whew, glad.)
Short version: Parties are good and they moderate the excesses of brainless populism and extremism because governing is hard and a job for grownups. The problem is a group of people who wanted to win by mobilizing the worst populist elements, and didn't care about governing.
The natural endpoint for this was a cult of personality that didn't even bother working up a platform in 2020. That's how parties die, and why the GOP is just an empty shell of what it once was.
Anyway, read the piece.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/...
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
You need to read this great piece by @RuleandRuin about how the GOP got where it is. You should read it because it answers the important questions.
1. What happened?
2. How could you have been in the GOP?
3. Does the left have this problem?
First, Kabaservice explains how the Tea Party was really a movement of people who hated everything about government (except for stuff they wanted), and how badly they sucked at the job of governing. The Tea Party died because "I hate this job" is not how you build a party.
Second, Geoff notes that every cycle of GOP populism was subsumed by people who knew they had to actually govern, which is how Goldwater, Reagan, and even Boehner became more moderate over time. That's how parties work.
And everything Geoff writes about the Right could be said, in terms of dynamics, about the Left, which tamed its hard-edge elements in 1968, 1974, 1992. As it should. The Dems have not had a tea party; maybe that's structurally not possible now, I don't know. (But whew, glad.)
Short version: Parties are good and they moderate the excesses of brainless populism and extremism because governing is hard and a job for grownups. The problem is a group of people who wanted to win by mobilizing the worst populist elements, and didn't care about governing.
The natural endpoint for this was a cult of personality that didn't even bother working up a platform in 2020. That's how parties die, and why the GOP is just an empty shell of what it once was.
Anyway, read the piece.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
kamiKaZaA ::
Trump je na shodih začel predvajati propagandne videe. Nerealno.
Jaz res ne vidim, kaj je spornega v tem videu. Je enostavno dokaz, da so goljufali. Trump vodi, prekinejo štetje, potem pa ostanejo 4 (katere posname kamera), vzamejo škatle iz pod mize. Kaj je noter, lahko ugibamo. In potem naenkrat povede Biden in tudi zmaga v Georgiji.
To je ta video o čem malo višje pišem:
Pac-Man ::
Po seriji lažnih alarmov & bližnjih srečanj je Rudi končno dobil korono.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta...
.@RudyGiuliani, by far the greatest mayor in the history of NYC, and who has been working tirelessly exposing the most corrupt election (by far!) in the history of the USA, has tested positive for the China Virus. Get better soon Rudy, we will carry on!!!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta...
.@RudyGiuliani, by far the greatest mayor in the history of NYC, and who has been working tirelessly exposing the most corrupt election (by far!) in the history of the USA, has tested positive for the China Virus. Get better soon Rudy, we will carry on!!!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Dobil je Coronija.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Perdue ignorira debate za runoff v Georgiji, video:
https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/statu...
Na papirju mu ne kaže dobro
https://www.270towin.com/2020-senate-po...
https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/statu...
Na papirju mu ne kaže dobro
https://www.270towin.com/2020-senate-po...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Kebo ::
Na papirju sta izenačena (oba znotraj intervala zaupanja). Verjetno ima Perdue rahlo prednost, ker konzervativci v večji meri zavračajo sodelovanje v anketah kot liberalci. Jaz mislim, da bodo republikanci dobili oba sedeža.
Bwaze6 ::
Do 5. januarja je še dolga. Kmalu bo vsakodnevno število žrtev "kitajskega virusa" preseglo število žrtev v 9/11 napadih, bolnišnice so popolnoma zasedene, proizvajalci cepiv pa že napovedujejo, da že tako dokaj nizkih začetnih pošiljk ne bodo niti polovično izpolnili, tako da bo takrat koronavirus še kako pomembna tema, ne glede na to, koliko se Trump in z njim ostali republikanci trudijo zmanjševati pomen.
Mr.B ::
Dost niha zandje čase, odvisno katera zvezna država doživi vrh in katera se potem razveni... Drugače so prejšnji teden presegli 10k mrtvih na teden, še preden je bilo seveda konec tedna...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
DarwiN ::
Zanimivo je predvsem, kako se tudi rdeče oz. shit-hole zvezne države odločajo za lockdown.. Zanikajo znanost, liberty, liberty, just a flu hoax ... potem ko pa enkrat vrag odnese šalo, pa tudi ti trumptardirani guvernerji uvedejo stroge ukrepe.. Ljudstvo pa preklopi pesem iz teorij zarote na blame game taktiko, torej china, china, china.. Edino Dakoti se uspešno upirata in borita za "pravice", pa še to si lahko privoščijo samo zaradi tega, ker imajo gostoto prebivalstva pičlih 4 ljudi na km2.
Torej norčevanje, napadi na znanost, na medicinsko stroko, neupoštevanje ukrepov, neuvidevnost do soljudi.. Potem ko pa virus eksplodira, pa preklop na "whatabout Sweden" in pa rasistični "China virus".. Komu lepše kot konzervativcem. Ravnaš po mili volji, napadaš vse povprek, kriv pa nikoli nič.
Torej norčevanje, napadi na znanost, na medicinsko stroko, neupoštevanje ukrepov, neuvidevnost do soljudi.. Potem ko pa virus eksplodira, pa preklop na "whatabout Sweden" in pa rasistični "China virus".. Komu lepše kot konzervativcem. Ravnaš po mili volji, napadaš vse povprek, kriv pa nikoli nič.
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
Bwaze6 ::
No, ampak kar ni uspelo po pravno pravni poti, bo morda po politični?
Sicer ni nobenih pravnih vzvodov za tole tožbo (toži Teksas, ker naj bi bile zarafi goljufij v swing states kratene pravice njegovih državljanov imeti poštene volitve), a praktično vsi republikanski politiki so zdaj strnili vrste, odpadniki, ki so že čestitali Bidnu, so utihnili.
Pri tem seveda ni nobenih novih dokazov, nobenih "Krakenov", a to nikogar ne moti, Trump, Giuliani veselo ponavljajo vse očitke, ki so na sodiščih že padli. Med njimi so tudi popolnoma izmišljeni, kar je že priznala odvetniška ekipa Trumpa (- "So there are watchers?" - "There's a non- zero number of people in the room"), volilne komisije in tudi republikanski politiki v swing states pa dobivajo smrtne grožnje.
Ampak rednecki seveda verjamejo, da je "overwhelming evidence". In da imajo "krivosodje", tudi če gre za republikanske sodnike, ki jih je na pozicije postavil Trump. In če se jim bo (spet) izneverilo še Vrhovno sodišče, bo tudi te potrebno označiti za "Republicans only by name".
Kakšna je sploh možnost, da se republikanska stranka distancira od Trumpa v primeru poraza? Glede na to, da so utišali popolnoma vse anti-Trump glasove, se bo stvar avtomatsko nadaljevala v kampanjo "Trump 2024", retorika bo še bolj radikalna, na lokalnih ravneh bodo republikanci volili še več idiotskih QAnon podpirnikov in podobnega sranja...
States supporting the Texas lawsuit
Seventeen US states on Wednesday (local time) filed a brief at the US Supreme Court supporting a bid by Texas to overturn the presidential election results.
Those states are: Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and West Virginia.
All of the states were represented by Republican officials in the filing. All but three of the states have Republican governors.
The suit from the Texas Attorney-General, Republican Ken Paxton, demands that the 62 total electoral college votes in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin be invalidated.
Sicer ni nobenih pravnih vzvodov za tole tožbo (toži Teksas, ker naj bi bile zarafi goljufij v swing states kratene pravice njegovih državljanov imeti poštene volitve), a praktično vsi republikanski politiki so zdaj strnili vrste, odpadniki, ki so že čestitali Bidnu, so utihnili.
Pri tem seveda ni nobenih novih dokazov, nobenih "Krakenov", a to nikogar ne moti, Trump, Giuliani veselo ponavljajo vse očitke, ki so na sodiščih že padli. Med njimi so tudi popolnoma izmišljeni, kar je že priznala odvetniška ekipa Trumpa (- "So there are watchers?" - "There's a non- zero number of people in the room"), volilne komisije in tudi republikanski politiki v swing states pa dobivajo smrtne grožnje.
Ampak rednecki seveda verjamejo, da je "overwhelming evidence". In da imajo "krivosodje", tudi če gre za republikanske sodnike, ki jih je na pozicije postavil Trump. In če se jim bo (spet) izneverilo še Vrhovno sodišče, bo tudi te potrebno označiti za "Republicans only by name".
Kakšna je sploh možnost, da se republikanska stranka distancira od Trumpa v primeru poraza? Glede na to, da so utišali popolnoma vse anti-Trump glasove, se bo stvar avtomatsko nadaljevala v kampanjo "Trump 2024", retorika bo še bolj radikalna, na lokalnih ravneh bodo republikanci volili še več idiotskih QAnon podpirnikov in podobnega sranja...
Pac-Man ::
Pennsylvania odgovarja na tožbo Teksasa. Komplet 43 strani:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/...
in uvod
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/statu...
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/...
in uvod
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/statu...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Uporabnik ::
Ne vem v čem je težava. Najbolj celan bo, da se to pač razreši sodno in SCOTUS reče to in to, in je konec. Če je dvom, ga je potrebno odpraviti, le tako bo šlo lahko mirno naprej.
Odgovor Texasa na odgovor Pensilvanije :) https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/...
Odgovor Texasa na odgovor Pensilvanije :) https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/...
If You Don\'t Stand for Something, You\'ll Fall for Anything
Mike_Rotch ::
"Trumpov" SCOTUS je že povedal, kaj si misli o njegovih infantilnih izpadih.
Več kot enega stavka mu niso namenili :)
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/cou...
Več kot enega stavka mu niso namenili :)
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/cou...
Uporabnik ::
Texas ni enako Trump.
Ne vem v kateri zadevi se gre v tojem linku.
Pač naj reče še enkrat, če se gre o isti zadevi.
Ne vem v kateri zadevi se gre v tojem linku.
Pač naj reče še enkrat, če se gre o isti zadevi.
If You Don\'t Stand for Something, You\'ll Fall for Anything
Mike_Rotch ::
Texas ni enako Trump.
Ne vem v kateri zadevi se gre v tojem linku.
Pač naj reče še enkrat, če se gre o isti zadevi.
Tole: Supreme Court rejects bid to overturn Pennsylvania result
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canad...
Mislim, da so jasno povedali kaj si mislijo o wannabe diktatorju. Odločitev je bila hitra in enoglasna, od "trumpovih" treh sodnikov ni bilo niti besedice.
Uporabnik ::
Mike_Rotch je izjavil:
Texas ni enako Trump.
Ne vem v kateri zadevi se gre v tojem linku.
Pač naj reče še enkrat, če se gre o isti zadevi.
Tole: Supreme Court rejects bid to overturn Pennsylvania result
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canad...
Mislim, da so jasno povedali kaj si mislijo o wannabe diktatorju. Odločitev je bila hitra in enoglasna, od "trumpovih" treh sodnikov ni bilo niti besedice.
OK, pač drug primer.
Včasih se je reklo, živi bili pa vidjeli :)
If You Don\'t Stand for Something, You\'ll Fall for Anything
Mike_Rotch ::
Ja, drug primer, ampak zelo zgovoren.
Obstajajo pokvarjeni, skorumpirani politiki. Potem pa imaš na povsem drugem nivoju orange mana z IQjem nižjim od številke čevljev.
Obstajajo pokvarjeni, skorumpirani politiki. Potem pa imaš na povsem drugem nivoju orange mana z IQjem nižjim od številke čevljev.
Pac-Man ::
Ne vem v čem je težava. Najbolj celan bo, da se to pač razreši sodno in SCOTUS reče to in to, in je konec. Če je dvom, ga je potrebno odpraviti, le tako bo šlo lahko mirno naprej.
Takle mamo:
Da SCOTUS zadevo sprejme "v obdelavo" je potrebnih 5/9 glasov ustavnih sodnikov.
Če samo 1 glasuje za ta zmazek so ZDA v velikih težavah.
Če nekako zberejo 5 glasov (jih ne bodo) so fucked up beyond belief.
Izza odra:
https://twitter.com/MilesTaylorUSA/stat...
GOP Hill staffer texted me the below. Works for one of the 106 Congressmen trying to overturn the election.
My reply: “Resign in protest. We’ll help you find a job.”
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Uporabnik ::
Mike_Rotch je izjavil:
Ja, drug primer, ampak zelo zgovoren.
Obstajajo pokvarjeni, skorumpirani politiki. Potem pa imaš na povsem drugem nivoju orange mana z IQjem nižjim od številke čevljev.
Vem da obstajajo, v veliki večni so :)
Je pa dejstvo, da vsak vidi drugače.
If You Don\'t Stand for Something, You\'ll Fall for Anything
Mike_Rotch ::
Je pa dejstvo, da vsak vidi drugače.
V kakšnem smislu?
Btw, kar se tiče tiče tega: "Če je dvom, ga je potrebno odpraviti, le tako bo šlo lahko mirno naprej."
V resnici ni dvomov. Na obeh straneh je vse jasno.
Trumpisti so povsem prepričani, da so bili nategnjeni in njih v nasprotno ne bo prepričalo nič. Verniki pač. Ko razum odpove, so vse debate in prepričevanja odveč.
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Uporabnik ::
Mike_Rotch je izjavil:
Je pa dejstvo, da vsak vidi drugače.
V kakšnem smislu?
Btw, kar se tiče tiče tega: "Če je dvom, ga je potrebno odpraviti, le tako bo šlo lahko mirno naprej."
V resnici ni dvomov. Na obeh straneh je vse jasno.
Trumpisti so povsem prepričani, da so bili nategnjeni in njih v nasprotno ne bo prepričalo nič. Verniki pač. Ko razum odpove, so vse debate in prepričevanja odveč.
Če ni dvoma, potem ne bi vložili tožb. Dokler se ne razrešijo dvom ostaja. Verjento bo dvom ostal tudi potem, vendar bo vseeno lažje.
Že če pogledaš tvoj ton pisanja, (reje ne bi šel tja).
P.s. jaz berem obe strani, da poskušam videti širino,...
If You Don\'t Stand for Something, You\'ll Fall for Anything
Mike_Rotch ::
Če ni dvoma, potem ne bi vložili tožb. Dokler se ne razrešijo dvom ostaja. Verjento bo dvom ostal tudi potem, vendar bo vseeno lažje.
Ne, ni dvoma. Vernikov realnost ne gane.
P.s. jaz berem obe strani, da poskušam videti širino,...
Kakšno širino? Lahko malo razložiš kako to izgleda.
Btw, če so mnenja različna, ne pomeni, da je resnica nekje vmes.