Konflikt v Siriji

http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/12/mass-r...
Mass reinforcements arrive at Palmyra airfield for counter-offensive

Poldi112 je 14. dec 2016 ob 15:26 izjavil:

Govoriš kot Hitler, razmišljaš kot Hitler - pa ti si čist taprav naci.

Ja saj. Greš spat aktivist, zjutraj se pa meni nič, tebi nič zbudiš nacelj! Se zgodi.


Pa lahko noč želim...

konspirator je 14. dec 2016 ob 19:37 izjavil:

Fritz je 9. dec 2016 ob 18:54 izjavil:

konspirator je 9. dec 2016 ob 16:44 izjavil:

Turki pred Al-babom sedaj z leopardi 2A4.
https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status/80...
https://twitter.com/th3_facts/status/80...

No, pa bomo verjetno kmalu videli, kako nemško železje (sicer starejša verzija), prenaša Kornet/TOW.

https://twitter.com/imp_navigator/statu...

Torej tudi nemško železje šprica tekoči ogenj po zadetku. Nekaj komentirajo, da ni mrtvih. Ne vem, glede na posnetek drugega tanka nekako dvomim v to. We'll see. Hvala za povezavo.

Smrekarju ze 100+ strani razlagamo, kaj je narobe, pa se vedno verjame zgolj USA trobilom.

Kaj pa kaj takega: http://www.delo.si/svet/krize/prva-posl...

Final messages from Aleppo

Cervantes je 14. dec 2016 ob 22:50 izjavil:

Massacra je 14. dec 2016 ob 21:56 izjavil:

Smrekarju ze 100+ strani razlagamo, kaj je narobe, pa se vedno verjame zgolj USA trobilom.

Kaj pa kaj takega: http://www.delo.si/svet/krize/prva-posl...

Začne se dobro, plačljivega dela pa nesem prebral.
Sem Gorenjc.

Ta ženska in novinar sta na težkih drogah.

Dvoličnost do konca.


Fritz
Pomoje pride v kratkem na plano tudi video nemškega železja.

http://defence-blog.com/army/two-turkis...

kak zdaj izgleda, da bo premirje zdržalo?

A je smrekca na bolniški?

Great man indeed,
Vzor nam vsem. Kudos!

ZaphodBB je 15. dec 2016 ob 15:21 izjavil:

Govoriš kot Hitler, razmišljaš kot Hitler - pa ti si čist taprav naci.

Truman in Churchill sta bila undercover nazi agenta. You heard it here first folks!

baje sta bla shekana od rusov

Evakuacija iz kotla v Aleppu danes končno stekla, predvidoma bo trajala 2-3 dni.

Cervantes je 15. dec 2016 ob 19:32 izjavil:

ISIS bo te evakuirance hitro pospravil.
Ker se v slavo Allaha niso borili do mučeniškega konca.

Kaj?

Situacija v Aleppu je tako katastrofalna, da je režim prisiljen uvažati propagandne fotografije iz Iraka. Očitno se v času 'osvoboditve' Aleppa ni zgodil niti en primer, ki bil v ponos silam režima ali rusko-iranske osi. Eni jim pri tem tudi ploskate. Vsak dan bolj dvomim v postulat, da je režim manjše zlo od ISIS.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/14/world...

harmony je 16. dec 2016 ob 09:12 izjavil:

Syria's permanent mission to the United Nations did not respond to CNN's requests for comment.

Ja, sej. Kaj pa naj bi naredili, priznali laž? Nikakor. Ne bodo komentirali in upali, da jim bodo kakšni lahkoverneži spet nasedli. Leninov termin za take je bil "uporabni idioti", ne vidim razloga zakaj bi izumljal novega.

Situacija v Aleppu je katastrofalna samo za zmerne glavorezce in njihove zahodne mecene.Zato sedaj tako velik pr stunt.


Dogovora se ne držijo, le kdo bi si mislil:
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/mi...
Militants exit east Aleppo while also blocking civilians from leaving Fou'aa, Kafraya


Medtem SDF na severu Aleppa lepo napreduje proti JV
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ku...

konspirator je 16. dec 2016 ob 10:35 izjavil:

Situacija v Aleppu je katastrofalna samo za zmerne glavorezce in njihove zahodne mecene.Zato sedaj tako velik pr stunt.


Dogovora se ne držijo, le kdo bi si mislil:
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/mi...
Militants exit east Aleppo while also blocking civilians from leaving Fou'aa, Kafraya


Medtem SDF na severu Aleppa lepo napreduje
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ku...

Tale almasdarnews je tu precej popularen, čeprav se je že ničkolikokrat izkazalo, da gre za profesionalno štancanje laži. Do zdaj bi morali po njihovo Jemenski opankarji že slaviti v Istanbulu. Leninov termin je za nekatere boleče primeren.

Zanimiva infografika o tem kdo je najhujši za civiliste.



Stran čisto na levi, rdeče barve, je po mnenju mnogih "manjše zlo", ki mora nujno zatreti vse ostale, ker le-te režejo glave vsepovprek.

Besna Glista je 16. dec 2016 ob 12:18 izjavil:

Haha, SNHR in njihovo štejtje. To je isto kot, da bi šel ti štet Smrekca.. Samo da bi ti dodal še kakšno 0 zadaj pri Government forces ...

The SNHR and it's methodology

Če delimo civilne žrtve vladnih sil z 2 in vse ostale pomnožimo s 3 ostane zaključek točno isti. Malo perspektive prosim, objava na redditu lepo opiše zakaj lahko številke SNHR lažejo za 20-30%. Povsem vseeno je tudi če lažejo za še enkrat toliko, zaključek je isti: največje zlo so sile rusko-iranske osi.

Metanje bomb med civiliste in napadi s kemičnim orožjem po mestih so precej bolj učinkovit način pobijanja kot glavorezništvo, ne glede na metodo. Prosim obrazloži mi, zakaj so glavorezci potem manjše zlo.

SimplyMiha je 16. dec 2016 ob 12:31 izjavil:

Samo v množičnih grobiščih, ki jih je med umikom zapustil ISIS, so odkrili več kot 15 tisoč trupel.

Nedvomno. Ampak v Siriji se ISIS ni kaj dosti umaknil. Žrtve vojne v Iraku pač ne moreš šteti v žrtve vojne v Siriji, kajne?

Sicer se strinjam, da je številka pri ISIS vejetno občutno višja in za to samo ni dokumentacije. Vsekakor pa dvomim, da pridejo kaj dosti čez 10% tega, kar naredijo vladne sile. Vladne sile namreč pobijajo na industrijski ravni, ISIS tega ni dosegel in kot kaže jim to (za razliko od vladnih sil) niti ni v interesu.

Prosim razloži mi zakaj so potemtakem vladne sile manjše zlo. Hvala.

AJ: Who is being killed?

NR: Every day the opposition gives a death toll, usually without any explanation of the cause of the deaths. Many of those reported killed are in fact dead opposition fighters, but the cause of their death is hidden and they are described in reports as innocent civilians killed by security forces, as if they were all merely protesting or sitting in their homes. Of course, those deaths still happen regularly as well.

And, every day, members of the Syrian army, security agencies and the vague paramilitary and militia phenomenon known as shabiha ["thugs"] are also killed by anti-regime fighters.

Q&A: Nir Rosen on Syria's armed opposition

Tale tip je kar nekaj časa prebil med opozicijskimi silami. Ve, o čem govori.

oo7 je 14. dec 2016 ob 10:30 izjavil:

Canadian Journalist on lies about Syria | December 9th 2016

http://www.snopes.com/syrian-war-victim...

in

https://pulsemedia.org/2016/12/15/russi...

Eva Bartlett, the woman in the video, writes for various conspiracy sites including SOTT.net, The Duran, MintPress and Globalresearch.ca. But more recently she has emerged as a contributor to Russia Today.

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So a conspiracy theorist with a blog who briefly visited Syria as a guest of the regime is declaring that everything you know about Syria is wrong. That you have been misled by everyone in the “MSM” from the New York Times to Der Spiegel, from the Guardian to the Telegraph, from CNN to Channel 4, from ABC to BBC, from CBS to CBC; that human rights organisations like Physicians for Human Rights, Medicins Sans Frontiers, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch; that international agencies like the UN and ICRC—they are all part of a vast conspiracy to malign Bashar al Assad. And the truth is only revealed on “alternative” media like the Kremlin’s own Russia Today! (watched by 70 million people a week according to its own claims)

In normal times something like this would provoke derision and dismay—or at least the person would be asked to provide verifiable facts instead of anecdotes (virtually everything she said is verifiably false). But these are not normal times. Supporters of the regime, admirers of Putin, and sectarian propagandists have latched on to this video. Kremlin broadcaster Russia Today has promoted the video heavily. And, in the game of Chinese whispers, the story has morphed into “a UN press conference”.

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What is happening in Syria is not a mystery. The facts are crystal clear. They are corroborated by multiple independent organisations. People who deny these facts only do so because of a will to disbelieve. It’s willed ignorance in the service of an ideology. This ignorance has been reinforced by Kremlin’s premier disinformation service: Russia Today. The broadcaster has rebranded itself “RT” to conceal its origins and agenda. It has even spawned a neutral-sounding viral video outlet like “In the Now“. Their aim is to sow doubt, feed cynicism, and confound knowledge.

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There is no doubt that the Western media has often failed in its coverage. Its reporting on Gaza and the journalism leading up to the Iraq war was abysmal. But western media isn’t devoted to obfuscating truth with the kind of single-minded determination that Russia Today is. It is deeply ironic that many people’s often justified disdain for western journalists has led the into the embrace of a channel that has no commitment to truth at all.

Vredno prebrat vse, najbolj direktna kritika obamine doktrine, kar sem jih videl.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions...

Contemplating the extermination of Aleppo and its people, I was reminded of a sentence that I read this summer. It appeared in an encomium to Elie Wiesel shortly after his death. It was a sterling sentence. It declared: “We must never be bystanders to injustice or indifferent to suffering.” That was Wiesel’s teaching, exactly. The problem with the sentence is that it was issued by the White House and attributed to President Obama. And so the sentence was not at all sterling. It was outrageously hypocritical.

How dare Obama, and members of his administration, speak this way? After five years and more in which the United States’ inaction in Syria has transformed our country into nothing other than a bystander to the greatest atrocity of our time, they have forfeited the right to this language.

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If Obama wants credit for not getting us into another war, the credit is his. If he wants credit for not being guilty of “overreach,” the credit is his. If he wants credit for conceiving of every obstacle and impediment to American action in every corner of the globe, the credit is his. But it is a shameful and incontrovertible fact of our history that during the past eight years the values of rescue, assistance, protection, humanitarianism and democracy have been demoted in our foreign policy and in many instances banished altogether. The ruins of the finest traditions of American internationalism, of American leadership in a darkening world, may be found in the ruins of Aleppo. Our ostentatious passivity is a primary cause of that darkening. When they go low, we go home. The Obama legacy in foreign policy is vacuum-creation, which his addled America-First successor will happily ratify. Aleppo was not destroyed by the Syrian army. It was destroyed by a savage coalition led and protected by Russia. While they massacred innocent men, women and children, we anxiously pondered scenarios of “deconfliction.”

We need to be unforgivingly clear. The obligation to act against evil in Aleppo was no different from the obligation to act against the evil in Sarajevo and Srebrenica. (Has anyone ever heard Obama mention Bosnia?) It was no different from the obligation to act against the evil in Rwanda. It was no different from the obligation to act against the evil in Auschwitz. And we scorned the obligation. We learned nothing. We forgot everything. We failed. We did not even try.

Že, samo oni pišejo iz stališča zmernih glavorezcev...

East Aleppo's fall se je zgodil 2012
Combat operations in 2012 during the Battle of Aleppo @ Wikipedia

papasmrk je 16. dec 2016 ob 15:25 izjavil:

Aleppo je osvobojen, ne pa da je padel...

Nekako tako kot je bil Pariz osvobojen leta 1941?


Nič ni tako sinonimno s svobodo, kot pozdrav z desnico.

Pust Iglco.
Od hudga se mu źe rola.