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Pac-Man ::
Sulome Anderson bo zaradi klevetanja tožila Maxa Blumenthala in Benjamina Nortona. Problem je, da jo obtožujeta vohunjenja za ZDA in Izrael, kar jo na bližnjem vzhodu spravlja v nevarnost.
Max je sicer sin Sida Blumenthala, ki je blizu Clintonovim, oče mu nudi tudi solidno pravno varstvo.
Sidney Blumenthal @ Wikipedia
Max Blumenthal @ Wikipedia
Ben Norton @ Wikipedia
https://medium.com/@sulome/why-im-suing...
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Reporting as close to the truth as possible and correcting inaccuracies when they occur are hallmarks of real journalism. Knowingly publishing lies to serve a political purpose is not journalism. It’s propaganda, and people who deal in that kind of information are not journalists. When their lies put others in danger, there should be consequences.
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That’s why I’m about to do something that makes me uncomfortable, as someone with a healthy respect for freedom of speech. I’m going to sue two such people, Max Blumenthal and Benjamin Norton, for libel and defamation. I’m not doing this simply because they published lies that hurt my reputation and career, although they did.
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The complaint I’m about to file, with the help of a law firm that has taken on the case pro bono, details a long list of politically motivated attacks against myself as well as many other journalists, rescue workers and activists whose work counters Russian and Syrian propaganda. These coordinated attacks frequently put my personal safety at risk by alleging that I am an agent of the U.S. or Israeli governments. In the places I report, such accusations could result in detainment, deportation, arrest or worse. This lawsuit is not meant to pursue a personal vendetta but instead uncover the motives for Mr. Blumenthal and Mr. Norton’s participation in a dangerous campaign of disinformation against people whose work threatens Russian and Syrian interests.
The problem with real journalists, from the perspective of autocratic governments like Russia and Syria, is that we report in places they would prefer to operate in without consequence — which is why their defenders spend so much time attacking us. I’ve spent the last seven years partly based in Beirut, Lebanon, from where I’ve covered topics such as the Syrian conflict and the war against ISIS. Beirut is also where my father, the journalist Terry Anderson, was kidnapped and held for six and a half years by a radical Islamist militia that would eventually be absorbed by Hezbollah
I’ve always been drawn to write about Hezbollah, partly because it’s a fascinating organization, but also because the group has been widely blamed for my father’s kidnapping — though I believe the truth is more nuanced. While reporting my book The Hostage’s Daughter, I developed multiple sources in Hezbollah and have published stories about the group with outlets including NBC News, Newsweek, The Nation, Foreign Policy, Esquire and VICE.
Despite what happened to my father, I have always tried to report on Hezbollah with as much objectivity and accuracy as possible, but we all make mistakes. The very few times in my career there have been substantive errors in my reporting, I immediately issued corrections, which is standard procedure.
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What I cannot handle is having my personal safety and that of other reporters endangered when Mr. Blumenthal, Mr. Norton and their associates accuse us of being spies or government propagandists. I won’t tolerate my contacts being put at risk when those attacks prompt people close to Hezbollah to report me for my “lies” and “invented sources.” I refuse to watch as their targeted campaigns threaten the lives of rescue workers and doctors in Syria, the safety of freelance journalists in Nicaragua and the careers of reporters and academics who dare to investigate their own unsavory associations and ties to Russia. Mr. Blumenthal and Mr. Norton will undoubtedly accuse me of using the legal system to silence them and stifle their free speech. I believe it’s worth noting that Mr. Blumenthal has sent legal threats via his lawyer to at least three news outlets that published unflattering material about him — hardly the actions of a champion of free speech.
For my part, I am extremely reluctant to take legal action against someone for the words they use, but we live in a world where an impulsive tweet can shake the very foundations of our society. (...) My lawsuit certainly isn’t about money. If anything financial ever comes from it, I plan to donate all funds to the Committee to Protect Journalists. This is about using the courts to uphold laws governing free speech so reporters can work with the security of knowing there are consequences for putting them in harm’s way.
Max je sicer sin Sida Blumenthala, ki je blizu Clintonovim, oče mu nudi tudi solidno pravno varstvo.
Sidney Blumenthal @ Wikipedia
Max Blumenthal @ Wikipedia
Ben Norton @ Wikipedia
https://medium.com/@sulome/why-im-suing...
...
Reporting as close to the truth as possible and correcting inaccuracies when they occur are hallmarks of real journalism. Knowingly publishing lies to serve a political purpose is not journalism. It’s propaganda, and people who deal in that kind of information are not journalists. When their lies put others in danger, there should be consequences.
...
That’s why I’m about to do something that makes me uncomfortable, as someone with a healthy respect for freedom of speech. I’m going to sue two such people, Max Blumenthal and Benjamin Norton, for libel and defamation. I’m not doing this simply because they published lies that hurt my reputation and career, although they did.
...
The complaint I’m about to file, with the help of a law firm that has taken on the case pro bono, details a long list of politically motivated attacks against myself as well as many other journalists, rescue workers and activists whose work counters Russian and Syrian propaganda. These coordinated attacks frequently put my personal safety at risk by alleging that I am an agent of the U.S. or Israeli governments. In the places I report, such accusations could result in detainment, deportation, arrest or worse. This lawsuit is not meant to pursue a personal vendetta but instead uncover the motives for Mr. Blumenthal and Mr. Norton’s participation in a dangerous campaign of disinformation against people whose work threatens Russian and Syrian interests.
The problem with real journalists, from the perspective of autocratic governments like Russia and Syria, is that we report in places they would prefer to operate in without consequence — which is why their defenders spend so much time attacking us. I’ve spent the last seven years partly based in Beirut, Lebanon, from where I’ve covered topics such as the Syrian conflict and the war against ISIS. Beirut is also where my father, the journalist Terry Anderson, was kidnapped and held for six and a half years by a radical Islamist militia that would eventually be absorbed by Hezbollah
I’ve always been drawn to write about Hezbollah, partly because it’s a fascinating organization, but also because the group has been widely blamed for my father’s kidnapping — though I believe the truth is more nuanced. While reporting my book The Hostage’s Daughter, I developed multiple sources in Hezbollah and have published stories about the group with outlets including NBC News, Newsweek, The Nation, Foreign Policy, Esquire and VICE.
Despite what happened to my father, I have always tried to report on Hezbollah with as much objectivity and accuracy as possible, but we all make mistakes. The very few times in my career there have been substantive errors in my reporting, I immediately issued corrections, which is standard procedure.
...
What I cannot handle is having my personal safety and that of other reporters endangered when Mr. Blumenthal, Mr. Norton and their associates accuse us of being spies or government propagandists. I won’t tolerate my contacts being put at risk when those attacks prompt people close to Hezbollah to report me for my “lies” and “invented sources.” I refuse to watch as their targeted campaigns threaten the lives of rescue workers and doctors in Syria, the safety of freelance journalists in Nicaragua and the careers of reporters and academics who dare to investigate their own unsavory associations and ties to Russia. Mr. Blumenthal and Mr. Norton will undoubtedly accuse me of using the legal system to silence them and stifle their free speech. I believe it’s worth noting that Mr. Blumenthal has sent legal threats via his lawyer to at least three news outlets that published unflattering material about him — hardly the actions of a champion of free speech.
For my part, I am extremely reluctant to take legal action against someone for the words they use, but we live in a world where an impulsive tweet can shake the very foundations of our society. (...) My lawsuit certainly isn’t about money. If anything financial ever comes from it, I plan to donate all funds to the Committee to Protect Journalists. This is about using the courts to uphold laws governing free speech so reporters can work with the security of knowing there are consequences for putting them in harm’s way.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
SimplyMiha ::
Fritz ::
Zadeva bolj slabo razloži bombardiranje Srbije in invazijo Afganistana.
Afganistan je odgovor na 9/11, ker je Osama deloval iz Afganistana, pod patronatom Talibanov.
Bombardiranje Srbije, čeprav nekaj let prepozno, je ena od redkih pravilnih intervencij ZDA in so jo oz. bi jo na koncu požrli tudi Rusi, če ne bi bilo Iraka in širjenja NATA na vzhod.
@ zmaugy
Kje je že kakšna pogodba, ki Ukrajini zagotavlja, da jo bodo ZDA branile, če bo ta napadena? Je ni. NATO je baziran na mednarodni pogodbi, ki zavezuje.
SimplyMiha je izjavil:
Tu je ena napaka - "Success" na koncu pravzaprav vodi v "Failed State".
Gre bolj za joke Andy-a Singerja. Pomembno je, da zadene bistvo.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
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SimplyMiha ::
Afganistan je odgovor na 9/11, ker je Osama deloval iz Afganistana, pod patronatom Talibanov.
Čeprav je bil ves ta čas vojne v Pakistanu, ampak pustimo to, Osama je odslužil svoje kot casus belli.
zmaugy ::
Zadeva bolj slabo razloži bombardiranje Srbije in invazijo Afganistana.
Afganistan je odgovor na 9/11, ker je Osama deloval iz Afganistana, pod patronatom Talibanov.
Bombardiranje Srbije, čeprav nekaj let prepozno, je ena od redkih pravilnih intervencij ZDA in so jo oz. bi jo na koncu požrli tudi Rusi, če ne bi bilo Iraka in širjenja NATA na vzhod.
@ zmaugy
Kje je že kakšna pogodba, ki Ukrajini zagotavlja, da jo bodo ZDA branile, če bo ta napadena? Je ni. NATO je baziran na mednarodni pogodbi, ki zavezuje.
SimplyMiha je izjavil:
Tu je ena napaka - "Success" na koncu pravzaprav vodi v "Failed State".
Gre bolj za joke Andy-a Singerja. Pomembno je, da zadene bistvo.
ZDA so podpisale varnostne garancije v zameno za jedrsko razorožitev Ukrajine.
Zdaj vemo, koliko so tovrstne varnostne garancije ZDA vredne - manj kot papir, na katerem so napisane. To je precedens in enak se lahko zgodi v primeru ruskega napada na katero od baltskih držav in neukrepanju NATO.
Sporazuma, kot ga je podpisala Ukrajina (z enakim ali podobnim začetnim stanjem), zdaj pod sponzorstvom ZDA ne bo podpisal več noben predsednik države/vlade, ki bo priseben.
Tako se spodkopava kredibilnost ZDA.
Naslednji korak bo zasedba celotne Ukrajine. In seveda testiranje, kaj se bo zgodilo. Če spet ne bo aktivnejših protiukrepov, sledi morda še kakšna priključitev Belorusije, nato pa...
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SimplyMiha ::
Kar je najbrž odgovor na ameriško nespoštovanje Natove zaveze neširjenja proti ruskim mejam. Geopolitika je prasica.
zmaugy ::
Jaz tukaj ne osporavam morebitne legitimnosti in strateške upravičenosti ruskega početja, kar Rusi delajo je povsem razumljivo in logično, saj so se najhujše invazije na Rusijo v nekaj zadnjih verzijah zgodile skozi Ukrajino, ki je ravna in lahko prehodna in je torej njena vsaj nevtralnost, če ne celo zavezništvo z Rusijo ali podrejenost Rusiji za le-to strateškega pomena in je NATO v Ukrajini en velik NJET za Ruse.
Stvar je v tem, da se je naenkrat geostrateški položaj spremenil in bi se morda Rusija lahko čutila dovolj močno, da poseže dlje.
Ali pa da za to, da zavaruje zasedbo Ukrajine, preventivno devastira EU, NATO in ostale dejavnike, ki bi lahjo ogrozili njene interese.
Stvar je v tem, da se je naenkrat geostrateški položaj spremenil in bi se morda Rusija lahko čutila dovolj močno, da poseže dlje.
Ali pa da za to, da zavaruje zasedbo Ukrajine, preventivno devastira EU, NATO in ostale dejavnike, ki bi lahjo ogrozili njene interese.
Poldi112 ::
No, rusi definitivno ne bodo pustili, da gre Ukrajina v NATO, medtem ko je ideja, da bodo okupirali celo ukrajino, hudo utrgana.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Mr.B ::
debaterajte v temi o ukrajini v2. v glavnem so ugotovitve BS. Rusiji ni v nikaksnem interesu okupirati Naci in skoruptirane Ukrajine.Bi bilo samo financna polomija.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
SimplyMiha je izjavil:
Kar je najbrž odgovor na ameriško nespoštovanje Natove zaveze neširjenja proti ruskim mejam. Geopolitika je prasica.
Zaveza, kaka zaveza?
In prosim za dokumente.
debaterajte v temi o ukrajini v2. v glavnem so ugotovitve BS. Rusiji ni v nikaksnem interesu okupirati Naci in skoruptirane Ukrajine.Bi bilo samo financna polomija.
Jim je pa v interesu zagotoviti koridor do Krima pa kanal za vodooskrbo bi prav tako prišel prav.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Mr.B ::
SimplyMiha je izjavil:
Kar je najbrž odgovor na ameriško nespoštovanje Natove zaveze neširjenja proti ruskim mejam. Geopolitika je prasica.
Zaveza, kaka zaveza?
In prosim za dokumente.
debaterajte v temi o ukrajini v2. v glavnem so ugotovitve BS. Rusiji ni v nikaksnem interesu okupirati Naci in skoruptirane Ukrajine.Bi bilo samo financna polomija.
Jim je pa v interesu zagotoviti koridor do Krima pa kanal za vodooskrbo bi prav tako prišel prav.
Kolikor vem, imajo. No Bs. Potegniti cez most se cevi za vodo ravno ni nekaj problematičnega. Da uničenje mostu, , no bo moral trenutni predsednik, kar hitro v Ameriko zbezati, ker ga bodo lepo koknili rusi in tega ne bodo niti skrivali.
Ce si prepričan, da bodo potem nemci trznili, tisti glavni odvisniki od plina, no vsaj dokelr je Trumpi za volanom,ne bi rekel.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Fritz ::
SimplyMiha je izjavil:
Afganistan je odgovor na 9/11, ker je Osama deloval iz Afganistana, pod patronatom Talibanov.
Čeprav je bil ves ta čas vojne v Pakistanu, ampak pustimo to, Osama je odslužil svoje kot casus belli.
Jaz osebno ne verjamem, da se je napad 9/11 zgodil brez vednosti in pomoči določenih akterjev v oblastni strukturi ZDA a je tedaj, ko se je zgodil, Osama bin Laden bil v Afganistanu in je tam ostal še nekaj časa. Tudi Al-Qaeda je v tem času v Afganistanu imela lepo mrežo oporišč.
ZDA so po napadu sprožile 5. člen NATO pogodbe (napad na eno državo je napad na vse) in s tem v Afganistan potegnile cel NATO. Očitno so bili prepričljivi, ker so misije NATA v Afganistanu od začetka do danes odobrene tudi z resolucijami VS OZN, kar pomeni, da so se glede tega strinjale tudi Ruska Federacija in LR Kitajska.
Da je Osama produkt ZDA in njenih zaveznic, primarno Savdove Arabije, je že neka druga zgodba.
V Siriji nič novega..vsi čakajo kaj bodo naredile ZDA.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Poldi112 ::
Kaj pa, če je Rusom in Kitajcem v interesu, da je USA v Afganistanu?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
sirotka ::
Mr.B ::
debaterajte v temi o ukrajini v2. v glavnem so ugotovitve BS. Rusiji ni v nikaksnem interesu okupirati Naci in skoruptirane Ukrajine.Bi bilo samo financna polomija.
Rusija kot taka je sama po sebi polomija. Nekaj oligarhov krasno živi, ostali pa več ali manj životarijo.
Enako kot Ukrajinci, ampak ja... No ce hoöete zaklpe teme kar naprej...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Smrekar1 ::
sirotka ::
arnecan1 ::
Glede možnosti razpada NATO po volji Trumpa se žal motiš.
V interesu Rusije ni močna in neodvisna EU, ampak šibka EU pod vplivom/kontrolo Rusije. To se zdi kot nekaj zelo oddaljenega in nemogočega, ampak dodaj uspešno invazijo na eno od baltskih držav, pri čemer Trump ne da dovoljenja za uporabo ameriške vojske in NATO razpade v 24 urah.
In sledi tisto, kar si Rusija želi.
Za vojno je potreben denar. Rusija ga glih nima. Zato je neumno govoriti o zavzetju baltskih držav ali Ukrajine, kjer bi se Rusija zapletla v kašno drago konvencionalno in okupacijsko vojno.
In ne primerjaj tega z Krimom, kjer je večinsko prebivalstvo rusko.
Invictus ::
Rusija kot taka je sama po sebi polomija. Nekaj oligarhov krasno živi, ostali pa več ali manj životarijo.
A v ZDA se sem cedita med in mleko?
Ni življenje vZDA kot v Kadrdashianovih....
Letos so imeli v centralni ZDA izbruh kolere...
"Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid."
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
AndrejO ::
Počasi se vrnite na temo, da mi ne bo potrebno preveč brisati, da vas vrnem na temo.
Hvala.
Hvala.
kunigunda ::
Jaz osebno ne verjamem, da se je napad 9/11 zgodil brez vednosti in pomoči določenih akterjev v oblastni strukturi ZDA a je tedaj, ko se je zgodil, Osama bin Laden bil v Afganistanu in je tam ostal še nekaj časa. Tudi Al-Qaeda je v tem času v Afganistanu imela lepo mrežo oporišč.
V bistvu ni bil v afganistanu ampak je bil v pakistanu v bolnci na zdravlenju. Ze pred 9/11.
Poldi112 ::
SimplyMiha je izjavil:
Kar je najbrž odgovor na ameriško nespoštovanje Natove zaveze neširjenja proti ruskim mejam. Geopolitika je prasica.
Zaveza, kaka zaveza?
In prosim za dokumente.
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book...
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Mr.B ::
Enako kot Ukrajinci, ampak ja... No ce hoöete zaklpe teme kar naprej...
V bistvu so se v Ukrajini stvari precej obrnile. Dohodki oligarhov so strmoglavili.
Ko bo v Rusiji počilo se bo zgodilo nekaj podobnega.
Dej spizdi, pred dvema mesecema je ena aktivista umrla zaradi samozažgala v protest korupciji. Ja ful jim gre bolje.
V glavnem, odkar je trumpi podpisal odhod, se amerofili ne znajdete. Verjtetno je to predhodnica večjih spspadov sproženih s strani Izraela.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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nsa_ag3nt ::
Turki že počasi zaganjajo motorje, ki čakajo na severni meji Sirije.Pomoje bodo začeli z akcijo proti Kurdom pred koncem leta.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five
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ADIJOOO1 ::
Ženske v Siriji pozivajo EU da naj jim vrne njihove može.
https://nyheteridag.se/sparka-ut-dom-oc...
https://nyheteridag.se/sparka-ut-dom-oc...
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zmaugy ::
Sicer je pa Donny predal ključe Sirije Erdoganu:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/23/poli...
In Kurdi bojo plačali ceno za to. V tej fazi. Kdo bo naslednji bomo še videli, je pa to nov dokaz, da ZDA niso zaupanja vreden partner.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/23/poli...
In Kurdi bojo plačali ceno za to. V tej fazi. Kdo bo naslednji bomo še videli, je pa to nov dokaz, da ZDA niso zaupanja vreden partner.
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Fritz ::
Erdogan: We will not leave the Kurds of Syria at the mercy of the PKK
Tole je že čisto Orwellovsko. Erdogan zagotavlja, da bo zaščitil Kurde pred njimi samimi. Verjetno bodo dokončno zaščiteni, če bodo mrtvi (pacificirani). Sicer pa nič novega, kar nismo že videli v večinsko kurdskih predelih južne Turčije in v Afrinu.
BTW, tudi Irak (zaveznik Assada in Irana) se pripravlja na vstop v jugovzhodni del Sirije, kjer Kurdi še niso dokončno premagali IS-a. Na drugi strani se kopičijo sile SAA. Oboji primarno, seveda zato, da bi preprečili ponovno širjenje IS, če se bodo kurdske sile premaknile na sever, na fronto proti Turkom in njihovim podrepnikom a bo zavzetje naftnih polj v vzhodnem DeZ lep dodaten bonus.
Tole je že čisto Orwellovsko. Erdogan zagotavlja, da bo zaščitil Kurde pred njimi samimi. Verjetno bodo dokončno zaščiteni, če bodo mrtvi (pacificirani). Sicer pa nič novega, kar nismo že videli v večinsko kurdskih predelih južne Turčije in v Afrinu.
BTW, tudi Irak (zaveznik Assada in Irana) se pripravlja na vstop v jugovzhodni del Sirije, kjer Kurdi še niso dokončno premagali IS-a. Na drugi strani se kopičijo sile SAA. Oboji primarno, seveda zato, da bi preprečili ponovno širjenje IS, če se bodo kurdske sile premaknile na sever, na fronto proti Turkom in njihovim podrepnikom a bo zavzetje naftnih polj v vzhodnem DeZ lep dodaten bonus.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kunigunda ::
Erdogan: We will not leave the Kurds of Syria at the mercy of the PKK
Tole je že čisto Orwellovsko. Erdogan zagotavlja, da bo zaščitil Kurde pred njimi samimi. Verjetno bodo dokončno zaščiteni, če bodo mrtvi (pacificirani). Sicer pa nič novega, kar nismo že videli v večinsko kurdskih predelih južne Turčije in v Afrinu.
BTW, tudi Irak (zaveznik Assada in Irana) se pripravlja na vstop v jugovzhodni del Sirije, kjer Kurdi še niso dokončno premagali IS-a. Na drugi strani se kopičijo sile SAA. Oboji primarno, seveda zato, da bi preprečili ponovno širjenje IS, če se bodo kurdske sile premaknile na sever, na fronto proti Turkom in njihovim podrepnikom a bo zavzetje naftnih polj v vzhodnem DeZ lep dodaten bonus.
Kurdi v Siriji so se mel cist ok pred vojno, z zacetkom vojne so nardil nepremicninski deal z assadom, pkk je pa iz turcije uletu stalo delat tko assadovi vojski kot sirskim kurdom.
Pac-Man ::
Čist okej. Since 1962.
Kurds in Syria @ Wikipedia
On 23 August 1962, the government conducted a special population census only for the province of Jazira, which was predominantly Kurdish. As a result, around 120,000 Kurds in Jazira (20% of Syrian Kurds) were stripped of their Syrian citizenship. The inhabitants who had Syrian identity cards were told to hand them over to the administration for renewal. However, many of those Kurds who submitted their cards received nothing in return. Many were arbitrarily categorized as ajanib ('foreigners'), while others who did not participate in the census were categorised as maktumin ('unregistered'), an even lower status than the ajanib; for all intents and purposes, these unregistered Kurds did not exist in the eyes of the state. They could not get jobs, become educated, own property, participate in politics, or even get married.
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Syrian policies in the 1970s led to Arabs resettling in majority Kurdish areas.[68] In 1965, the Syrian government decided to create an Arab cordon (Hizam Arabi) in the Jazira region along the Turkish border. The cordon was 300 kilometers long and 10–15 kilometers wide, stretched from the Iraqi border in the east to Ras Al-Ain in the west.
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After an incident in a football stadium in Qamishli, 65 people were killed and more than 160 were injured in days of clashes starting from 12 March (2004). Kurdish sources indicated that Syrian security forces used live ammunition against civilians after clashes broke out at a football match between Kurdish fans of the local team and Arab supporters of a visiting team from the city of Deir al-Zor. The international press reported that nine people were killed on 12 March. According to Amnesty International hundreds of people, mostly Kurds, were arrested after the riots. Kurdish detainees were reportedly tortured and ill-treated. Some Kurdish students were expelled from their universities, reportedly for participating in peaceful protests.
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On 7 October 2011, Kurdish leader Mashaal Tammo was gunned down in his apartment by masked men widely believed to be government agents. During Tammo's funeral procession the next day in the town of Qamishli, Syrian security forces fired into a crowd of more than 50,000 mourners, killing five people.
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Kurdish-inhabited Afrin Canton has been occupied by the Turkish Armed Forces and Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army since the Turkish military operation in Afrin in early 2018.[85] Between 150,000 and 200,000 people were displaced due to the Turkish intervention.
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According to the Human Rights Watch, Kurds in Syria are not allowed to officially use the Kurdish language, are not allowed to register children with Kurdish names, are prohibited to start businesses that do not have Arabic names, are not permitted to build Kurdish private schools, and are prohibited from publishing books and other materials written in Kurdish.
Kurds in Syria @ Wikipedia
On 23 August 1962, the government conducted a special population census only for the province of Jazira, which was predominantly Kurdish. As a result, around 120,000 Kurds in Jazira (20% of Syrian Kurds) were stripped of their Syrian citizenship. The inhabitants who had Syrian identity cards were told to hand them over to the administration for renewal. However, many of those Kurds who submitted their cards received nothing in return. Many were arbitrarily categorized as ajanib ('foreigners'), while others who did not participate in the census were categorised as maktumin ('unregistered'), an even lower status than the ajanib; for all intents and purposes, these unregistered Kurds did not exist in the eyes of the state. They could not get jobs, become educated, own property, participate in politics, or even get married.
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Syrian policies in the 1970s led to Arabs resettling in majority Kurdish areas.[68] In 1965, the Syrian government decided to create an Arab cordon (Hizam Arabi) in the Jazira region along the Turkish border. The cordon was 300 kilometers long and 10–15 kilometers wide, stretched from the Iraqi border in the east to Ras Al-Ain in the west.
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After an incident in a football stadium in Qamishli, 65 people were killed and more than 160 were injured in days of clashes starting from 12 March (2004). Kurdish sources indicated that Syrian security forces used live ammunition against civilians after clashes broke out at a football match between Kurdish fans of the local team and Arab supporters of a visiting team from the city of Deir al-Zor. The international press reported that nine people were killed on 12 March. According to Amnesty International hundreds of people, mostly Kurds, were arrested after the riots. Kurdish detainees were reportedly tortured and ill-treated. Some Kurdish students were expelled from their universities, reportedly for participating in peaceful protests.
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On 7 October 2011, Kurdish leader Mashaal Tammo was gunned down in his apartment by masked men widely believed to be government agents. During Tammo's funeral procession the next day in the town of Qamishli, Syrian security forces fired into a crowd of more than 50,000 mourners, killing five people.
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Kurdish-inhabited Afrin Canton has been occupied by the Turkish Armed Forces and Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army since the Turkish military operation in Afrin in early 2018.[85] Between 150,000 and 200,000 people were displaced due to the Turkish intervention.
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According to the Human Rights Watch, Kurds in Syria are not allowed to officially use the Kurdish language, are not allowed to register children with Kurdish names, are prohibited to start businesses that do not have Arabic names, are not permitted to build Kurdish private schools, and are prohibited from publishing books and other materials written in Kurdish.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
kunigunda ::
Kot sem rekel, cist okej. Vecinoma sami povejo osebno. Edino s papirji so bli problemi, zato so tud nardili deal, in so stopil skupaj z assadom.
Vse ostalo pa vecinoma turki zakuhajo. Kar se incidentov tice, pa nic drgac kot drugod po vzhodu, razne samoiniciative, katere so bile sodno preganjane.
Vse ostalo pa vecinoma turki zakuhajo. Kar se incidentov tice, pa nic drgac kot drugod po vzhodu, razne samoiniciative, katere so bile sodno preganjane.
Fritz ::
Kurdi v Siriji so se mel cist ok pred vojno, z zacetkom vojne so nardil nepremicninski deal z assadom, pkk je pa iz turcije uletu stalo delat tko assadovi vojski kot sirskim kurdom.
Ma ni lih tko. Kurdi se niso imeli imenitno a je bilazadeva znosna oz. boljša kot pri Turkih. Težava je nastala, ko so Assadove sile pod pritiskom IS in džihadistov kolapsirale in niso mogle več zagotavljati reda in miru. Če se Kurdi ne bi organizirali, bi doživeli enako usodo kot Jazidi. Glede teh stvari pa so imeli največ izkušenj in orožja pri PKK, ki je prisoten tako v severni Siriji kot v severnem Iraku. Ko so imeli krizo s Kobanejem so jim pomagali Američani in to se je do danes nadaljevalo a cena tega sodelovanja je bil antagonizem do Assada, kar Kurdom dolgoročno škoduje in kar se je tudi pokazalo.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Je kdo stisnil play na pripetem videu zgoraj?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zheegec ::
Vsaj štirje mrtvi v Sirski prestolnici po današnjih napadih s strani Izraela. Nov val napadov se dogaja sedaj.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
Pac-Man ::
Izrael spet bombardira Sirijo, bomo videli česa je zmožna vsemogočna ruska zračna obramba.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zheegec ::
Menda še vedno uporabljajo samo S-200. Očitno si Rusija ne upa sestreliti izraelskih letal, ali pa dejansko niso dostavili S-300.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014
Pac-Man ::
Verjetna trupla na dvorišču zapora Sednaja, kjer izvajajo množične eksekucije. Verjetno kmalu pridejo novi zaporniki in je potrebno narediti prostor.
Na google earth je podobna situacija na posnetku iz maja 2017, sicer prazno oz. stoječi ljudje.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics...
As Syria’s government consolidates control after years of civil war, President Bashar al-Assad’s army is doubling down on executions of political prisoners, with military judges accelerating the pace they issue death sentences, according to survivors of the country’s most notorious prison.
In interviews, more than two dozen Syrians recently released from the Sednaya military prison in Damascus described a government campaign to clear the decks of political detainees. The former inmates said prisoners are being transferred from jails across Syria to join death-row detainees in Sednaya’s basement and then be executed in pre-dawn hangings.
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Some of the former prisoners had themselves been sentenced to hang, escaping that fate only after relatives paid tens of thousands of dollars to secure their freedom. Others described overhearing conversations between guards relating to the transfer of prisoners to be killed.
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“Present in the imagery from March 1st and March 4th of the prison, there are dark elongated objects, similar to each other, measuring approximately five to six feet in length,” said Isaac Baker, imagery analysis manager at the Harvard Humanitarian Initiative’s Signal Program on Human Security and Technology. “While analysis and available data does not prove, it does corroborate, and is consistent with, eyewitness accounts of mass executions at this facility.”
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Other satellite imagery of military land near Damascus, previously identified by Amnesty International as a location of mass graves, appears to show an increase in the number of burial pits and headstones in at least one cemetery there since the start of the year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics...
As Syria’s government consolidates control after years of civil war, President Bashar al-Assad’s army is doubling down on executions of political prisoners, with military judges accelerating the pace they issue death sentences, according to survivors of the country’s most notorious prison.
In interviews, more than two dozen Syrians recently released from the Sednaya military prison in Damascus described a government campaign to clear the decks of political detainees. The former inmates said prisoners are being transferred from jails across Syria to join death-row detainees in Sednaya’s basement and then be executed in pre-dawn hangings.
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Some of the former prisoners had themselves been sentenced to hang, escaping that fate only after relatives paid tens of thousands of dollars to secure their freedom. Others described overhearing conversations between guards relating to the transfer of prisoners to be killed.
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“Present in the imagery from March 1st and March 4th of the prison, there are dark elongated objects, similar to each other, measuring approximately five to six feet in length,” said Isaac Baker, imagery analysis manager at the Harvard Humanitarian Initiative’s Signal Program on Human Security and Technology. “While analysis and available data does not prove, it does corroborate, and is consistent with, eyewitness accounts of mass executions at this facility.”
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Other satellite imagery of military land near Damascus, previously identified by Amnesty International as a location of mass graves, appears to show an increase in the number of burial pits and headstones in at least one cemetery there since the start of the year.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
korenje3 ::
pac-man imaš kakšen drug predlog kaj s teroristi? poskusi se dogovoriti če lahko pridejo k teb domov živet.
i9-12900k; 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36; Nvidia RTX 3080 ti;
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Pac-Man ::
Teroristi se ne predajo, ampak naredijo terorizem. Tole so raznovrstni sovražniki sistema.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
korenje3 ::
to je tvoje subjektivno mnenje, ki je seveda daleč od realnosti in posledica nizkih miselnih kapacitet.
naloga terorista je da terorizira, ne pa nujno da dela samomor ipd. tudi teroristi se bojijo.
naloga terorista je da terorizira, ne pa nujno da dela samomor ipd. tudi teroristi se bojijo.
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Gigabyte Aorus z690 master; Be Quiet Dark Power 12 1000W
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Fritz ::
Saj tudi Izrael pravi, da so neoboroženi palestinski protestniki teroristi in jih veselo pobijajo. KSA veselo zapira in obglavlja oporečnike. Turčija zapira novinarje in opozicijo etc. etc.
Ampak največji problem je pa Assad, ostali so vsi rožice. Sicer nisem za izvensodno arbitrarno pobijanje ljudi a če SDF preda ujetnike iz IS Assadovemu režimu, upam, da ti nikoli več ne bodo videli prostosti. Pred vojno Assadov režim ni bil demokratičen in oporečnike so zapirali in ubijali a še zdaleč ne v takšnem številu. Vojna spremeni razmerja in ravnanja.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/12/f...
In seveda so včeraj Izraelci spet bombardirali Damask. Ko jim bodo zrušili prvo letalo se bodo pa drli, da so žrtev agresije.
Ampak največji problem je pa Assad, ostali so vsi rožice. Sicer nisem za izvensodno arbitrarno pobijanje ljudi a če SDF preda ujetnike iz IS Assadovemu režimu, upam, da ti nikoli več ne bodo videli prostosti. Pred vojno Assadov režim ni bil demokratičen in oporečnike so zapirali in ubijali a še zdaleč ne v takšnem številu. Vojna spremeni razmerja in ravnanja.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/12/f...
In seveda so včeraj Izraelci spet bombardirali Damask. Ko jim bodo zrušili prvo letalo se bodo pa drli, da so žrtev agresije.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
SimplyMiha ::
7982884e ::
Menda še vedno uporabljajo samo S-200. Očitno si Rusija ne upa sestreliti izraelskih letal, ali pa dejansko niso dostavili S-300.
tudi pantsirji so izstreljevali. mogoce pa slavni s-300 vseeno ne more ubraniti vsega povsod? zracni napad/protizracna obramba je komplicirana igra, ni to tista otroska igrica s kartami, kjer steje kdo ima boljso karto. in izraelci so v tem zelo dobri.
pa se zadnjic so se nekateri v tej temi pridusali, da bodo zdaj izraelci dali mir za vekomaj :/
in precej bolj v igri tukaj je to, da se izrael izogiba ciljanju teh protiletalskih sistemov kot pa da bi se sirci izogibali ciljanju izraelcev. pac eskalacija, ki ni potrebna, dokler lahko se vedno dostavis "payload" na tarce.
Poldi112 ::
Izraelci letajo, ker jim rusi pustijo. Razen če verjameš, da ruski protiletalskli sistem, ki ga veselo kupujejo tudi USA zavezniki (kljub grožnjam s sankcijami), ni sposoben ustaviti Izraela.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Fritz ::
Izraelci lahko delujejo iz svojega zračnega prostora po Siriji.
Če jim bo kdo sestrelil letalo nad njihovim ozemljem, bodo to smatrali kot all out vojno. So sami povedali. Torej jaz streljam nate kolikor mi paše, če pa ti name, potem streljam do onemoglosti. Sicer smo to že videli na primeru napada Izraela in protiudarca z večcevnimi raketnimi sistemi, ko so vpili kako jih Iranci napadajo iz Sirije in kakšna žrtev, da so. To, da je bil raketni napad odgovor na njihovo bombardiranje Damaska in T4 so gladko spregledali.
Če jim bo kdo sestrelil letalo nad njihovim ozemljem, bodo to smatrali kot all out vojno. So sami povedali. Torej jaz streljam nate kolikor mi paše, če pa ti name, potem streljam do onemoglosti. Sicer smo to že videli na primeru napada Izraela in protiudarca z večcevnimi raketnimi sistemi, ko so vpili kako jih Iranci napadajo iz Sirije in kakšna žrtev, da so. To, da je bil raketni napad odgovor na njihovo bombardiranje Damaska in T4 so gladko spregledali.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Mr.B ::
Menda še vedno uporabljajo samo S-200. Očitno si Rusija ne upa sestreliti izraelskih letal, ali pa dejansko niso dostavili S-300.
tudi pantsirji so izstreljevali. mogoce pa slavni s-300 vseeno ne more ubraniti vsega povsod? zracni napad/protizracna obramba je komplicirana igra, ni to tista otroska igrica s kartami, kjer steje kdo ima boljso karto. in izraelci so v tem zelo dobri.
pa se zadnjic so se nekateri v tej temi pridusali, da bodo zdaj izraelci dali mir za vekomaj :/
in precej bolj v igri tukaj je to, da se izrael izogiba ciljanju teh protiletalskih sistemov kot pa da bi se sirci izogibali ciljanju izraelcev. pac eskalacija, ki ni potrebna, dokler lahko se vedno dostavis "payload" na tarce.
Očitno imas vec podatkov kot ostali. Torej na plano, koliko raket je bilo izstreljenih in vab s strani idf, ter visino leta raket, ko so prileteli v doseg panstirjev, itd...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
7982884e ::
iz kje si prebral, da imam vec podatkov?
pantsirje in s-300 imajo tudi sirci in zelo dvomim, da se drzijo nazaj. in pa ja, ko se bombardira damask, izraelska letala ne rabijo sploh prestopat meje.
gre se za eskalacijo, ki je trenutno noce noben, zato tud izrael ne cilja samih protiletalskih sistemov - to se spara za "libijski scenarij", ce kdaj bo.
Izraelci letajo, ker jim rusi pustijo. Razen če verjameš, da ruski protiletalskli sistem, ki ga veselo kupujejo tudi USA zavezniki (kljub grožnjam s sankcijami), ni sposoben ustaviti Izraela.
pantsirje in s-300 imajo tudi sirci in zelo dvomim, da se drzijo nazaj. in pa ja, ko se bombardira damask, izraelska letala ne rabijo sploh prestopat meje.
gre se za eskalacijo, ki je trenutno noce noben, zato tud izrael ne cilja samih protiletalskih sistemov - to se spara za "libijski scenarij", ce kdaj bo.
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nsa_ag3nt ::
V Izraelu bodo nove volitve, dežurni capo Bibi "nabira" podporo.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five
fikus_ ::
Ja Izraelci spet provocirajo in testirajo odziv Sircev. Tokrat naj bi imeli za kritje dve potniški letali, eno v Libanonu in eno v Siriji. Zgleda da so računali na nesposobnost Sirske protizračne obrambe, da se bo zgodilo podobno kot z Ruskim letalom.
7982884e ::
olol, "kritje potniskih letal", to mora biti najbolj neumna iz kremlja ta hip. prekasa se tisto o "kritju z ruskimi lovci".