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Ukrajina Part II
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The Ukrainian military is claiming that Colonel Ivan Grishin, the commander of Russia's 49th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade (1st Tank Army), was killed. A Russian VK page from Smolensk is saying that he was killed on April 16.
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Kokr se grdo sliš, pač kao absolutna suverenost itd, je dolgoročno za Ukrajino in EU dejansko najbolje da Ukrajina izgubi malo ozemlja kjer ima Rusko govoreče prebivalce. S tem se Ukrajinci losajo notranjega razdora med Ruskimi in Ukrajinskimi nacionalisti in dobijo možnost za dolgoročno stabilnost države. S tem se da tudi možnost da več moči dobi liberalni vzhodni del prebivalstva in lažje zbližanje z EU.
Jaz tudi mislim da so se razne elite, vključno z Zelenskijem s tem že sprijaznile (da bo Rusija dobila del ozemlja in bo nato mirovni dogovor), in sicer tako Ruske kot Ukrajinske kot US, kot EU. Edino kar se te elite še ne strinjajo je koliko ozemlja naj dobi Rusija, zato tudi pošiljke orožja, da bo tega ozemlja čim manj. Jaz tudi mislim da je Putin realist in vidi da nima šansa kaj veliko ozemlja zasesti in se bo sprijaznil z Donbas in par mest severno od Krima. Bitka v Donbasu bo pomoje zadnja velika bitka, potem pa morda par let obstreljevanja predno bo mirovni dogovor.
Za UA politike ne vem, ali bi sprejeli to varianto, usa zanesljivo ni za to.
Ruse so že odrezali od EU trga, navijajo, da bi EU prenehala uvažat RU plin in nafto, EU gospodarstvo že čuti posledice embarga. UA je kanonfutr za usa interese, primerna za testiranje vojaške tehnike, obenem tudi za izčrpavanje RU.
Tako da najkrajšo bodo potegnili državljani UA, potem RU, EU. usa vojaška industrija je sedaj spet dobila pospešek, oni rabijo vojno nekje v svetu.
Seveda imaš kakšen podatek za to, da podkrepiš svojo mnenje? Ali si to kje na kakšnem srbskem forumu prebral :)
To je prebral v Pavlihi!!
V bistvu gre za veliko bitko za demokracijo in proti zlobnemu zlobcu Putkotu in zlobnim rusom!
Taki so ruski klavci:
Tole nit sem želel prevest že konec februarja, pa se je zgodila vojna. Torej jo dajmo zdaj, ko jo je avtor še dodatno podaljšal.
Dolgo, ampak dobro pojasni, zakaj jih sosedi ne trpijo.
https://twitter.com/MaximEristavi/statu...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1495...
Ko tujci mimogrede omenijo 'bombardiranje Kijiva', vedno pomislim na te slike.
To je ruski kolonializem naredil s Čečenijo in Groznim, ko sta leta 2000 poskušala zapustiti imperij.
Vojni zločin grozljivega obsega, a preostali svet je bil 'meh', zato je Moskva nadaljevala. https://www.rferl.org/a/the-second-chec...
Moskva je strašno nekreativna. V zadnjih sto letih ruski kolonializem vedno znova in znova uporablja isto taktiko invazije in okupacije.
1920. Srednja Azija poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem. Moskva napade, da bi se zaščitila pred "etničnim nasiljem".
Buhara, eno najstarejših mest na svetu, konča v ruševinah. V pogromih in etničnem čiščenju po vsej regiji je bilo zaklanih 150.000.
Basmachi movement @ Wikipedia
1917-32. Ukrajina poskusi zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Moskva vdre, da bi 'ustavila nasilje', leta izvaja množične umore po vsej državi, podžiga nemire in sčasoma zasede državo.
Kremelj uporabi holodomor in množični teror, da zatre odpor.
1917-20. Azerbajdžan poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Moskva objavlja lažne novice o množičnih umorih in napade, da bi ustavila nasilje. Deset tisoč poklanih.
Red Army invasion of Azerbaijan @ Wikipedia
1917-20. Armenija poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem. Moskva objavlja lažne novice o množičnih umorih in napade, da bi ustavila nasilje.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Arm...
1917-24. Gruzija poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Moskva uprizori etnično nasilje in napade, da bi ga 'ustavila'. več kot 15.000 umorjenih in 20.000 deportiranih v etničnem čiščenju.
https://civil.ge/archives/397042
1918-45. Severni Kavkaz poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem. Moskva uprizori etnično nasilje in napade, da bi ga 'ustavila'.
Množično etnično čiščenje in deportacije v naslednjih dveh desetletjih ubijejo stotine tisočev.
Mountainous Republic of the Northern Caucasus @ Wikipedia
1917-21. Baškortostan poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem in postane prva muslimanska demokracija na svetu.
Moskva podžiga notranje delitve, vabi v vojaško unijo in nato absorbira republiko. V naslednjih protikolonialnih vstajah jih ubije več kot 10.000.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0...
1918. Latvija poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem. Moskva ustvari državljansko vojno, a ne uspe prevzeti države in Latvijcem uspe braniti novorojeno postkolonialno demokracijo.
https://okupacijasmuzejs.lv/en/history/...
1917-20. Estonija poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem. Moskva napade z uporabo estonskih marionet in dezinformacij, v katerih zahtevajo 'osvoboditev' države.
S solidarnostjo Združenega kraljestva in Finske Estoncem uspe obraniti novorojeno postkolonialno demokracijo.
1918. Litva poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Moskva prelomi mednarodni sporazum po prvi svetovni vojni, ki Litvi zagotavljavlja neodvisnost, ustvari marionetno državo za legitimizacijo invazije, organizira državni udar, a Litovci se obranijo.
Lithuanian Wars of Independence @ Wikipedia
1918. Belorusija poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem. Moskva ustvari marionetno državo, da bi sabotirala gibanje za neodvisnost.
Majhna beloruska vojska se več kot mesec dni upira ogromnim silam Kremlja v junaški samomorilski misiji, a na koncu izgubi.
Belarusian Democratic Republic @ Wikipedia Slutsk uprising @ Wikipedia
1919-22. Karelija poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Moskva zatre protikolonialne vstaje, prepove demokratično izvoljen parlament, ustvari marionetno vlado.
Na stotine pobitih, približno 30.000 beguncev, v 1930ih so prepovedali lokalni jezik in kulturo.
East Karelian uprising @ Wikipedia
1929-30. Severni Afganistan postane baza za protikolonialne borce iz srednje Azije.
Poleg tega je nepriljubljeni afganistanski kralj odstavljen in zahteva da ruski kolonializem napade.
Kremelj pošlje vojake, oblečene v afganistanske uniforme. Pokoljejo stotine, a se vrnejo domov.
Red Army intervention in Afghanistan (1929) @ Wikipedia
1924. Tunguška republika avtohtonih arktičnih narodov poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem po stoletjih genocidov, izkoriščanja, kulturnega izbrisa.
Moskva zvabi republiko v premirje z lažnimi obljubami o avtonomiji, nato pobije vodstvo.
Tungus Republic @ Wikipedia
1927. Naveličana izkoriščanja avtohtonih dežel, poskusi Jakutija zapustiti ruski kolonializem in ustanovi demokratično konfederacijo.
Moskva zvabi voditelje v lažni dogovor o avtonomiji in amnestiji, nato prelomi besedo, usmrti večino udeležencev vstaje.
https://ojs.lib.uwo.ca/index.php/iipj/a...
1933. Avtohton sibirski narod Khanty po stoletjih genocidov, izkoriščanja, kulturnega izbrisa in množičnih ugrabitev poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Protikolonialni upor je zatrt z množičnim klanjem.
Kazym rebellion @ Wikipedia
1934-43. Avtohtoni narod Nenetov po stoletjih genocidov, izkoriščanja in kulturnega izbrisa skuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Vstaja Mandaladov je bila zatrta z drugim genocidom.
https://www.academia.edu/479640/Two_War...
1932. Staroselski narod Dolganov poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem, potem ko se naveličajo gospodarskega izkoriščanja in kulturnega izbrisa.
Moskva Tajmirsko vstajo utopi v krvi in množičnih represijah.
https://tol.org/client/article/cold-col...
1939. Moskva si izmisli 'etnične konflikte' in napade Poljsko, da bi zaščitila 'manjšine' - kot fasado za tajni dogovor ruskega kolonializma s Hitlerjem za razdelitev Evrope.
Okoli 200.000 pobitih v nemško-ruski invaziji.
Invasion of Poland @ Wikipedia Poljaki odložijo mobilizacijo pred invazijo, saj verjamejo, da bi to izzvalo napadalce in jim dalo razlog za kršitev miru v Evropi.
1939. Moskva laže, da se želi zaščititi pred varnostnimi grožnjami na Finskem in jo napade kot del skrivnega dogovora ruskega kolonializma s Hitlerjem za razdelitev Evrope.
Kremelj z velikimi izgubami zasede 11 % Finske. Več kot 400.000 pobitih.
Winter War @ Wikipedia
1940. Moskva po dogovoru ruskega kolonializma s Hitlerjem, laže, da se želi 'zaščititi' in ustrahuje Estonijo, Latvijo, Litvo, da sprejmejo ruske vojaške baze, ki jih uporabijo za invazijo.
Več kot 179.000 deportiranih, več deset tisoč jih umre v etničnem čiščenju.
Occupation of the Baltic states @ Wikipedia
1940. Moskva sklene dogovor ruskega kolonializma s Hitlerjem, laže, da se želi 'zaščititi', napade Romunijo in aneksira 15% romunskega ozemlja.
Soviet occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina @ Wikipedia
1953. Vzhodna Nemčija poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem, milijoni se zberejo na prodemokratičnih shodih.
Moskva uporabi uradno prošnjo za pomoč marionetnega režima, da pošlje tanke, pobije stotine in zatre vstajo.
East German uprising of 1953 @ Wikipedia
1956. Madžarska poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem, študenti sprožijo ljudsko prodemokratično vstajo.
Moskva za invazijo uporabi fasadni pakt o kolektivni varnosti. Na tisoče poklanih, upor zatrt.
https://www.rferl.org/a/remembering-the...
1930. Kazahstan poskuša sredi divjega ropanja kmetijskih zemljišč in lokalnih virov iz Moskve zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Pojavi se več kot 372 uporov in protestov, nekateri so izrecno protikolonialni. Kremlj jih večino zatre, na tisoče ubitih.
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0...
1930-43. Pod pritiskom kolonialnih priseljencev poskuša avtohtoni narod krimskih Tatarov z več vstajami zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Moskva laže, da se želi zaščititi in narod cilja z genocidom in deportacijo. Vsak drugi umre.
https://ukrainianinstitute.org/today-we...
1917-18. Avtohtoni narod krimskih Tatarov poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem, ustanovi drugo muslimansko demokracijo.
Moskva strmoglavi vlado, usmrti 33-letnega predsednika Nomana Çelebicihana, njegovo telo vrže v morje. Sledi etnično čiščenje.
Crimean People's Republic @ Wikipedia
Noman %C3%87elebicihan @ Wikipedia
1968. Čehi in Slovaki poskušajo zapustiti ruski kolonializem. Moskva za invazijo uporabi fasadni pakt o kolektivni varnosti. 137 zaklanih, upori zatrti.
https://www.rferl.org/a/prague-spring-i...
1929-44. Tannu-Tuva poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Moskva izvede državni udar, uvede marionetni režim, začne s kulturnim izbrisom, pošlje etnično ruske kolonialiste, prisili Tuvo, da jim podeli državljanstva in na koncu pripoji državo.
Tuvan People%27s Republic @ Wikipedia
1917-22. Ukrajinci na daljnem vzhodu poskusijo zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Ustanovijo državo Zeleny Klyn kot del sveže neodvisne Ukrajinske ljudske republike, demokratični parlament, vojsko. Protodržava propade z rusko okupacijo Ukrajine.
https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/ukrai...
1917-20. Kubanski Kozaki poskušajo zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Ustanovijo demokratični parlament, republiko, pridružijo se federaciji z novo neodvisno Ukrajinsko ljudsko republiko. Po invaziji na Ukrajino jih Moskva obkoli in uniči.
Kuban People%27s Republic @ Wikipedia
1918. Idel-Ural poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem.
Tatarska protorepublika je imela enega prvih demokratičnih muslimanskih parlamentov in ustav na svetu.
Moskva podžiga notranje etnične delitve, ugrabi poslance, napade državo in razpusti parlament.
https://www.idelreal.org/a/29306275.html
1986. Kazahstan poskuša zapustiti ruski kolonializem, prodemokratična vstaja Jeltoqsan postane njihov Trg nebeškega miru.
Iz Moskve poslane sile ubijajo skvoterje: na stotine protestnikov je usmrčenih, a navdihnejo protikolonialne borce po vsem imperiju.
https://www.codastory.com/disinformatio...
1991. Estonija zapusti ruski kolonializem. Moskva pošlje tanke, da jo zvlečejo nazaj.
Estonci postavljajo barikade in se mirno soočijo z napadalci. Demoralizirani Rusi gredo domov.
Singing Revolution @ Wikipedia
1990-91. Latvija zapusti ruski kolonializem. Moskva z dezinformacijami orkestrira bombne napade, podžiga etnično sovraštvo, spodbuja strah in histerijo.
Državljani gradijo barikade, večinoma neoboroženi se srečujejo s kremeljskimi morilskimi celicami. 6 ubitih. Demoralizirani Rusi gredo domov.
The Barricades @ Wikipedia
1990-91. Litva zapusti ruski kolonializem.
Moskva vzpostavi ekonomsko blokado, uporablja dezinformacije za pospeševanje etničnih sporov, pošlje tanke, da pregazijo miroljubne protestnike.
15 ubitih, a Litva obstane. Demoralizirani Rusi gredo domov.
January Events (Lithuania) @ Wikipedia
1990. Azerbajdžan želi zapustiti ruski kolonializem. Moskva spodbuja etnično sovraštvo, ga uporabi kot izgovor za pošiljanje tankov in klanje privržencev neodvisnosti.
V januarskem pokolu jih umre 170. Namesto da bi jih demoraliziralo to okrepi željo po neodvisnosti.
Black January @ Wikipedia
1989. Gruzija želi zapustiti ruski kolonializem. Moskva pošilje vojake za množične poboje protestnikov v miroljubni vstaji za neodvisnost v Tbilisiju.
19 ubitih. Namesto da bi jih demoraliziralo to okrepi željo po neodvisnosti.
https://jam-news.net/33-years-since-apr...
1992. Moldavija zapusti ruski kolonializem.
Moskva jih kaznuje s podžiganjem etničnih sporov in to uporabi kot pretvezo za aneksijo 10 % države in ustanovitev Pridnjestrske republike pod ruskim nadzorom.
https://www.rulac.org/browse/conflicts/...
1992. Gruzija zapusti ruski kolonializem. Moskva jih kaznuje s spodbujanjem etničnih sporov in državljanske vojne.
Kremelj trdi, da je "nevtralen", vendar še naprej pošilja orožje in denar v podporo odcepljenim regijam. Gruzija konča razpadla, s proruskim kleptokratskim režimom.
https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-civil-w...
2008. Gruzija izpodriva kleptokratski režim pro-ruskega kolonializma in se pomika k ponovni združitvi z Evropo. Kremelj se odloči, da jih kaznuje.
Moskva uporabi dezinformacije v podporo lažnih trditev o "genocidu", napade in zasede 20% ozemlja.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-georgia-...
2014. Ukrajina izpodriva kleptokratski režim pro-ruskega kolonializma.
Kremelj se odloči, da jih bo kaznoval, ustvari lažno zgodbo o etničnih sporih, trdi, da je "nevtralnen", vendar pošlje čete, da ustvarijo seperatistične nepriznane republike in aneksirajo Krim.
https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/an-open-s...
2015. Sirija je na tem, da izžene tirana in se znebi ključne vojaške postojanke ruskega kolonializma.
Moskva pošlje vojsko, ki s kasenimi bombami in plinom izvede množične poboje civilistov – vse zato, da ustavijo »preteči genocid«. 600.000 ubitih, 7 milijonov razseljenih.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/read...
1940. Moskva želi kaznovati Finsko, ker je zapustila ruski kolonializem.
Ustvari marionetno državo na predhodno okupirani zemlji, obljubi da jo bo zaščitila pred 'genocidom' in jo uporabi kot paravan za invazijo na Finsko.
Finnish Democratic Republic @ Wikipedia
2022. Rusija želi kaznovati Ukrajino, ker je zapustila ruski kolonializem.
Ustvarja lažne zgodbe o 'genocidu', uporabi marionetne državice kot paravan za invazijo.
Napadalci sodelujejo v množičnih vojnih zločinih, vendar blitzkrieg ne uspe in se sočijo z odporom prebivalstva brez primere. Se nadaljuje.
Na splošno željo bom nit podaljšal s s primeri ruskega kolonializma pred letom 1917.
1552. Ruski kolonialni genocid v Kazanu.
Po več neuspešnih poskusih, da bi postavili marionetne vladarje, so Rusi mesec dni oblegali prestolnico, nato pa pobili vsakega od 65.000 prebivalcev in do tal zrušili večino zgradb.
Siege of Kazan @ Wikipedia
1651-56. Ruski kolonialni genocid ljudstva Daur, del kolonializma sibirskih priseljencev.
Ni natančne ocene, koliko umrlih, a moške so sistematsko klali. Rusi so posilstva in ugrabitve otrok uporabljali kot namerno strategijo genocida.
Daur people @ Wikipedia
1640-50. Ruski kolonialni genocid nad Jakuti, Korjaki, Kamčadali in Čuki. Del kolonializma sibirskih priseljencev.
80 % staroselcev je bilo ubitih ali je umrlo zaradi črnih koz, ki so jih prinesli priseljenci. Rusi so uporabili mesne kljuke za obešanje domačih moških, posiljevali ženske.
Russian conquest of Siberia @ Wikipedia
1706-44. Ruski kolonialni genocid nad Itelmeni. Avtohtoni narod je bil zasužnjen med kolonizacijo s strani sibirskih priseljencev.
Po več uporih so Rusi pobili 80% prebivalstva. samo 3k Itelmenov je preživelo v sedanjost.
Itelmens @ Wikipedia
1740-1850. Ruski kolonialni genocid avtohtonih narodov Kamčatke. Prvotna populacija 150.000 je s sistemskim klanjem padla na 10.000.
Vsaj 12 narodov je bilo popolnoma iztrebljenih, njihova zemljišča so ukradli priseljeni ruski kolonialisti.
Russian conquest of Siberia @ Wikipedia
1750-1800. Ruski kolonializem izvede genocid avtohtonega naroda Korjakov.
Prvotna populacija se zaradi sistemskega klanja, črnih koz, ki so jih prinesli priseljenci in suženjstva z 11.000 zmanjša na 4.800.
Koryaks @ Wikipedia
1820-70. Ruski kolonialni genocid nad Čerkezi.
Etnično čiščenje, množična posilstva in deportacije so prizadele 97 % ali 1.500.000 pripadnikov tega muslimanskega avtohtonega naroda.
Vasi so bile napadene in požgane večinoma ponoči, sistematično izstradane, masakrirane.
Circassian genocide @ Wikipedia
1900. Ruski kolonialni genocid Kitajskih in drugih avtohtonih narodov daljnega vzhoda.
Ker se je Moskva prestrašila, da bo protikolonialni bokserski upor navdihnil rusko kolonizirane Azijce, je poklala tisoče in deportirala desetine tisočev.
1900 Amur anti-Chinese pogroms @ Wikipedia
1944. Ruski kolonializem izvede genocid nad Čečeni in Inguši.
Po desetletjih protikolonialnih uporov se Moskva odloči za "končno rešitev" z deportacijo dveh avtohtonih narodov v srednjo Azijo.
Med 200 in 400 tisoč jih umre, vsak tretji Čečen ali Inguš.
Deportation of the Chechens and Ingush @ Wikipedia
1937-40. Ruski kolonializem izvede genocid nad Poljaki.
V strahu pred protikolonialno vstajo Moskva razglasi poljsko manjšino za 'peto kolono', jih usmrti 200k+ in v gulage pošlje 30k+ in s tem ubije vsakega petega Poljaka, ki živi pod rusko vladavino. To vključuje Katjin.
https://ipn.gov.pl/en/digital-resources...
Katyn massacre @ Wikipedia
1943. Ruski kolonializem izvede genocid Kalmikov.
Ogrožena zaradi protikolonialnih uporov znotraj tega avtohtonega in budističnega naroda, Moskva v Sibirijo deportira 20 % ali 93 tisoč ljudi.
17k jih umre, ostali postanejo sužnji. Njihova zemlja je še vedno ukradena.
Deportation of the Kalmyks @ Wikipedia
1944. Ruski kolonializem izvede genocid Karačajev.
Kot čiščenje ozemlja za ruske priseljence in kot 'končno rešitev muslimanskega vprašanja' si Moskva izmisli mit o tem, da je ta narod 'izdajalec'.
Vseh 70 tisoč jih deportirajo v srednjo Azijo, vsak peti je ubit.
Deportation of the Karachays @ Wikipedia
1944. Ruski kolonializem izvede genocid nad Mešetskimi Turki.
Kot 'končno rešitev muslimanskega vprašanja' jih Moskva 100.000 deportira v srednjo Azijo.
Vsak drugi je ubit. Večina potomcev ostane brez državljanstva.
Deportation of the Meskhetian Turks @ Wikipedia
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VladarP ::
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Kmalu vam rusofobom Ukrajina in Rusija ne bo več zanimiva. Se boste na domacih tleh ukvarjali z islamsko pomladjo. Zapisite si in pomnite, ko Rus opravi z nacisti v Ukrajini bo CIA z BND in MI6 zacela z novo etapo ustrahovanja in to je z islamskim terorizmom v Evropi. Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Kmalu vam rusofobom Ukrajina in Rusija ne bo več zanimiva. Se boste na domacih tleh ukvarjali z islamsko pomladjo. Zapisite si in pomnite, ko Rus opravi z nacisti v Ukrajini bo CIA z BND in MI6 zacela z novo etapo ustrahovanja in to je z islamskim terorizmom v Evropi. Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- predlagal izbris: marjanmb ()
endelin ::
Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Se vedno nekajkrat več kot povprecen rus
l0g1t3ch ::
Patetičen luzer, zaprt za štirimi stenami s šmrklji na laseh.
Močan argument.
Koliko "demokracij", izven Evrope ter obalnega pasu USA, ki uživjajo svobodo pod zaščito USA, si pa ti že obiskal?
Ali po 500 letih nesebične pomoči zahoda še kar niso zreli za demokracijo, medetem ko so se oni, ki jim tako "nesebično" pomagajo, vedno mastno okoristili...
Poldi ko se vrnem cez 15 dni, te vabim na pivo rusko Baltiko.
Rad imam ljudi svobodnega uma.
Res bi vaju rad videl v živo, dva bebca :D
Zemljevid držav, ki so rusiji nabile "mednarodne" sankcije:
Toliko o tem, kaj si svet misli o širitvi imperija na ruske meje.
Po vecini anglosaksonski klavci in njihovi podrepniki. Bil dva dni nazaj v Keniji vec kot 21 dni, to ie drugi svet brez zahodne megle, korone, ukrajine...
.
Že parkrat si se hvalil,da si bil v Keniji. Vsi smo videli in smo ti zelo zavistni. Lahko bi bil ostal tam,če je tako fajn. Zakaj si se vrnil v evropsko vukjoebino?
Brezskrbi dva dni prediha in grem poslovno v Rio de Janeiro. Brazilci so ekstra zadovoljni z naso pistolo arex zero, ki sodi v sam vrh sodovnih polavtomatskih pistol in ja treba je pobirat smetano/provizijo.
Čisto slučajno poznam ljudi pri Arex defense. Se bom pozanimal,če te poznajo
To bi bilo vrhunsko :D
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endelin ::
"Brother from another mother sporoca":
Srbski predsednik Aleksander Vučić je obveščevalni službi Ukrajine in neimenovane članice EU-ja obtožil, da širita lažne informacije o bombah v potniških letalih srbskega letalskega prevoznika Air Serbia. Od 24. februarja je bilo več kot 20 groženj.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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VladarP ::
Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Se vedno nekajkrat več kot povprecen rus
Pojdi v center Ljubljane ali v BTC in uprasaj 100 mimoidocih ljudi koliko zasluzijo. Vecina jih je na minimalnih placah oziroma dobijajo dodatek do minimalne place. Slehernemu Slovencu cena goriva in zapravljenega casa v guzvah na obvoznicah poje tretjino place. Kje je hrana, oblacila in druge slabe razvade kot so kave, cigareti, alkohol.
Imas samo privide, da zivis bolje kot Rus. Ubistvu pa 3/4 delovno aktivnih Slovencev tece podganjo dirko, ce ves kaj je to.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- predlagal izbris: marjanmb ()
sir_mha ::
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/is-p...
Kmalu vam rusofobom Ukrajina in Rusija ne bo več zanimiva. Se boste na domacih tleh ukvarjali z islamsko pomladjo. Zapisite si in pomnite, ko Rus opravi z nacisti v Ukrajini bo CIA z BND in MI6 zacela z novo etapo ustrahovanja in to je z islamskim terorizmom v Evropi. Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Izvoli in se preseli v brezkrajno svobodo, tvojo Rusijo. S sabo vzami bel list papirja in na Rdečem trgu počakaj na kontakt, ki ti bo nekaj stvari razložil, v bistvu dobrodošlica. Potem pa sam teraj gas in prosim, ne pozabi na nas, pošlji kakšno razglednico.
Comandante ::
Imas samo privide, da zivis bolje kot Rus.
Resno, a si ti ze kdaj bil vzhodno od Lendave? Ali pac nabijas na polno?
Ze na Madzarskem je beda, potem pa dlje kot gres proti vzhodu, slabse je. Bi rekel da je vzhod Rusije ciganija, ampak bi zalil nase cigane - ti so namrec ze vsi po vrsti videli WC skoljko in tekoco vodo.
VladarP ::
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/is-p...
Kmalu vam rusofobom Ukrajina in Rusija ne bo več zanimiva. Se boste na domacih tleh ukvarjali z islamsko pomladjo. Zapisite si in pomnite, ko Rus opravi z nacisti v Ukrajini bo CIA z BND in MI6 zacela z novo etapo ustrahovanja in to je z islamskim terorizmom v Evropi. Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Izvoli in se preseli v brezkrajno svobodo, tvojo Rusijo. S sabo vzami bel list papirja in na Rdečem trgu počakaj na kontakt, ki ti bo nekaj stvari razložil, v bistvu dobrodošlica. Potem pa sam teraj gas in prosim, ne pozabi na nas, pošlji kakšno razglednico.
V Rusijo na Krim grem na dopust, sem mislim da ze pisal o tem tukaj. Dvojno drzavljanstvo je zakon
Akhmat sila
Zgodovina sprememb…
- predlagal izbris: marjanmb ()
sir_mha ::
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/is-p...
Kmalu vam rusofobom Ukrajina in Rusija ne bo več zanimiva. Se boste na domacih tleh ukvarjali z islamsko pomladjo. Zapisite si in pomnite, ko Rus opravi z nacisti v Ukrajini bo CIA z BND in MI6 zacela z novo etapo ustrahovanja in to je z islamskim terorizmom v Evropi. Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Izvoli in se preseli v brezkrajno svobodo, tvojo Rusijo. S sabo vzami bel list papirja in na Rdečem trgu počakaj na kontakt, ki ti bo nekaj stvari razložil, v bistvu dobrodošlica. Potem pa sam teraj gas in prosim, ne pozabi na nas, pošlji kakšno razglednico.
V Rusijo na Krim grem na dopust, sem mislim da ze pisal o tem tukaj. Dvojno drzavljanstvo je zakon
VladarP ::
Comandante je izjavil:
Imas samo privide, da zivis bolje kot Rus.
Resno, a si ti ze kdaj bil vzhodno od Lendave? Ali pac nabijas na polno?
Ze na Madzarskem je beda, potem pa dlje kot gres proti vzhodu, slabse je. Bi rekel da je vzhod Rusije ciganija, ampak bi zalil nase cigane - ti so namrec ze vsi po vrsti videli WC skoljko in tekoco vodo.
Si videl avtobusno postajo v Ljubljani, Metelkovo? Ali po tvoje.. Si videl obronke Pariza, Marseilla, Londona? Cesarkoli bi se dotaknil tam bi staknil hepatitis.
Po evropskih ulicah ponoci vidis samo pakistanske lopove, tranvestitke prostitutke in kebabarje.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- predlagal izbris: marjanmb ()
Poldi112 ::
Tudi jaz se strinjam da je treba sodelovati z Rusi in bolje se integrirati z njimi. Ampak to PO tem ko se izčrpajo v Ukrajini, z Rusi se pač ne da drugače kot palico, šele potem so pripravljeni tudi na korenček, taki pač so geopolitično gledano.
In tudi La Pen ni prav nič drugačnega mnenja kot jaz. Celo Macron se bi strinjal z mano, nista tadva kandidata toliko različna kot na prvi pogled zgleda iz populističnih izjav. Oba bi se strinjala da je treba tole priliko (vojno) geipolitično izkoristiti in spraviti Rusijo čim nižje, potem pa se iz pozicije moči spet z njimi pogajat.
Iz pozicije moči? Mar nismo v poziciji moči še desetlja, če ne stoletja?
Do kje bi pa ti izčrpal jedrsko velesilo, ki je bila že pred konfliktom na ravni Italije?
Na raven Pakistana? Severne Koreje?
Ter kako bo to vplivalo na našo varnost in stabilnost? Kako bo to vplivalo na človekove pravice v Rusiji in Ukrajini?
To bo koristilo sploh komurkoli v Evropi?
Kdaj v zgodovini odnosov z rusi smo pa že poskusili s korenčkom?
Stalin je hotel sodelovati z nami, pa smo rekli jebi se, naša lutka, ali pa sankcije.
Gorbačev je pustil Nemčiji, ki jih je brutalno razbila, da se ponovno združi in včlani v NATO, v zameno za neširitev.
Nato pa širitev za širitvijo, rusom pa sankcije na sankcije. Ja, očitno razumejo samo palico. Tako kot preostali svet, ki še stoletja zavrača našo svobodo in demokracijo.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
korenje3 ::
i9-12900k; 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36; Nvidia RTX 3080 ti;
Gigabyte Aorus z690 master; Be Quiet Dark Power 12 1000W
Gigabyte Aorus z690 master; Be Quiet Dark Power 12 1000W
Zgodovina sprememb…
- predlagal izbris: marjanmb ()
VladarP ::
Sicer pa po javnih wcjih je idealna resitev sanitarni cvor kot recejo Srbi oziroma cucavac. Najbolj higienicno, ker na javnih skoljkah sedijo samo soferji, uzivalci drog in pa geji, da ne recem kaksno drugo besedo.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- predlagal izbris: marjanmb ()
tikitoki ::
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/is-p...
Kmalu vam rusofobom Ukrajina in Rusija ne bo več zanimiva. Se boste na domacih tleh ukvarjali z islamsko pomladjo. Zapisite si in pomnite, ko Rus opravi z nacisti v Ukrajini bo CIA z BND in MI6 zacela z novo etapo ustrahovanja in to je z islamskim terorizmom v Evropi. Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Izvoli in se preseli v brezkrajno svobodo, tvojo Rusijo. S sabo vzami bel list papirja in na Rdečem trgu počakaj na kontakt, ki ti bo nekaj stvari razložil, v bistvu dobrodošlica. Potem pa sam teraj gas in prosim, ne pozabi na nas, pošlji kakšno razglednico.
V Rusijo na Krim grem na dopust, sem mislim da ze pisal o tem tukaj. Dvojno drzavljanstvo je zakon
Teb je potrebno odvzeti drzavljanstvo, zapleniti premozenje in izgnati v Rusijo.
marjanmb ::
video
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/151...
russian tanks invade Ukraine
• Ukrainians buy drones from @amazon
• Ukrainians grab ancient anti-tank grenades
• Ukrainians buy 3D printers from @amazon
• Ukrainians print fins for the anti-tank grenades
• Ukrainians blow up the russian tanks
Odlično.
Dober Rus je crknjen Rus!
Tank gori, Rus beži!
Dober Rus je crknjen Rus!
Tank gori, Rus beži!
yayo ::
Ukrajinski heroji, kako branijo civiliste.
https://twitter.com/MiG31BmFoxhound/sta...
obrazna, telesna mimika mi vzbujata vtis nekogar, ki laže in to s cinizmom. lahko se motim.
VladarP ::
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/is-p...
Kmalu vam rusofobom Ukrajina in Rusija ne bo več zanimiva. Se boste na domacih tleh ukvarjali z islamsko pomladjo. Zapisite si in pomnite, ko Rus opravi z nacisti v Ukrajini bo CIA z BND in MI6 zacela z novo etapo ustrahovanja in to je z islamskim terorizmom v Evropi. Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Izvoli in se preseli v brezkrajno svobodo, tvojo Rusijo. S sabo vzami bel list papirja in na Rdečem trgu počakaj na kontakt, ki ti bo nekaj stvari razložil, v bistvu dobrodošlica. Potem pa sam teraj gas in prosim, ne pozabi na nas, pošlji kakšno razglednico.
V Rusijo na Krim grem na dopust, sem mislim da ze pisal o tem tukaj. Dvojno drzavljanstvo je zakon
Teb je potrebno odvzeti drzavljanstvo, zapleniti premozenje in izgnati v Rusijo.
Zelo demokratična metoda. Sami se odkrivate
marjanmb ::
@PrimoZ_ ze 10x si citiral @Pac-Man-ov post. Vzdrži se tega v prihodnje, ker je zaradi tebe in še nekaj ostalih tema nepregledna.
Če že moraš citirati pa sam citat skrajšaj z "..." ali pa linkaj originalni post. Ne mislim nič slabega s tem, rad bi le, da je tema bolj pregledna.
Res tud meni ni jasno zakaj trolaš v nedogled z tem postom, saj je viden post že vsaj 20×.
VladarP ::
@PrimoZ_ ze 10x si citiral @Pac-Man-ov post. Vzdrži se tega v prihodnje, ker je zaradi tebe in še nekaj ostalih tema nepregledna.
Če že moraš citirati pa sam citat skrajšaj z "..." ali pa linkaj originalni post. Ne mislim nič slabega s tem, rad bi le, da je tema bolj pregledna.
Res tud meni ni jasno zakaj trolaš v nedogled z tem postom, saj je viden post že vsaj 20×.
Zato ker je debil. Zaradi njega ki poziva h klanju Rusov, se potem poziva obratno in v nedogled.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- predlagal izbris: marjanmb ()
sir_mha ::
Gorbačev je pustil Nemčiji, ki jih je brutalno razbila, da se ponovno združi in včlani v NATO, v zameno za neširitev.
Ti si zmeden Poldi. Kdaj se je Nemčija včlanila v NATO? Da ne omenjamo še, da je nasprotovala včlanitvi Ukrajine. Mal si mi podoben tem Rusom, vse povprek sekaš in groziš. Ali naj bi jim recimo Poljska še rit lizala, ker so jih napadli, jim množično pobijali in potem za 50 let vladali.
Vse so vedno drugi krivi. Noben ne mara kalimera Putina, pa tak fajn dec je, eden zadnjih pravih avtokratov v Evropi.
yayo ::
Sicer pa po javnih wcjih je idealna resitev sanitarni cvor kot recejo Srbi oziroma cucavac. Najbolj higienicno, ker na javnih skoljkah sedijo samo soferji, uzivalci drog in pa geji, da ne recem kaksno drugo besedo.
vidim, da ne ceniš ne geje, ne muslimane ne trasvestite... Kaj ceniš?
VladarP ::
Sicer pa po javnih wcjih je idealna resitev sanitarni cvor kot recejo Srbi oziroma cucavac. Najbolj higienicno, ker na javnih skoljkah sedijo samo soferji, uzivalci drog in pa geji, da ne recem kaksno drugo besedo.
vidim, da ne ceniš ne geje, ne muslimane ne trasvestite... Kaj ceniš?
To si ti tako zaključil v svoji prazni glavi.
Pac-Man ::
Uf, bomo sploh kdaj zvedel, koliko ruskih vojakov bo padlo v Mariupolu. Priznam, da se v tej vojni prvič slišal, da obstajajo vojaški krematoriji.
Tole s krematoriji je IMO bull. Te zgodbice so bile že v sezoni 14/15 in mi nimajo nekega smisla. Če ima vojak žlahto, ga bo zagotovo kdo pogrešal.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
tikitoki ::
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/is-p...
Kmalu vam rusofobom Ukrajina in Rusija ne bo več zanimiva. Se boste na domacih tleh ukvarjali z islamsko pomladjo. Zapisite si in pomnite, ko Rus opravi z nacisti v Ukrajini bo CIA z BND in MI6 zacela z novo etapo ustrahovanja in to je z islamskim terorizmom v Evropi. Vse zato, da vas drzi poslusne in v domovih, da sleherni drzavljan ne protestira ko za isto placo, kupuje vse manj in manj.
Izvoli in se preseli v brezkrajno svobodo, tvojo Rusijo. S sabo vzami bel list papirja in na Rdečem trgu počakaj na kontakt, ki ti bo nekaj stvari razložil, v bistvu dobrodošlica. Potem pa sam teraj gas in prosim, ne pozabi na nas, pošlji kakšno razglednico.
V Rusijo na Krim grem na dopust, sem mislim da ze pisal o tem tukaj. Dvojno drzavljanstvo je zakon
Teb je potrebno odvzeti drzavljanstvo, zapleniti premozenje in izgnati v Rusijo.
Zelo demokratična metoda. Sami se odkrivate
ZElimo, da se pocutis kot doma:)
sir_mha ::
Uf, bomo sploh kdaj zvedel, koliko ruskih vojakov bo padlo v Mariupolu. Priznam, da se v tej vojni prvič slišal, da obstajajo vojaški krematoriji.
Tole s krematoriji je IMO bull. Te zgodbice so bile že v sezoni 14/15 in mi nimajo nekega smisla. Če ima vojak žlahto, ga bo zagotovo kdo pogrešal.
Vem, sam vseeno se da lažje zadeve zabrisat. Ali natančneje, za dalj časa zabrisat. Sej veš, je manj nekih seznamov pri prevozih itn. Kakorkoli, teh številk še nekaj let sigurno ne bomo videli.
sir_mha ::
Vau, to je pa dober zadetek.
https://twitter.com/CanadianUkrain1/sta...
Just look at those skills. Destroying a #Russian BMP by firing THROUGH a building.
https://twitter.com/CanadianUkrain1/sta...
sbawe64 ::
Toliko o tem, kako ZDA nimajo nobene morale kritizirati ali sankcionirati Rusijo. To so ameriške invazije/vojaške operacije po vsem svetu:
1775-1776: Kanada in Atlantik,
1798-1800: Karibsko in Atlantsko morje,
1831: Argentina,
1846-1848: Mehika,
1852-1853: Argentino,
1853: Nikaragva,
1854: Nikaraguna,
1855: Urugvaj,
1856: Nova Granada,
1858: Urugvaj,
1859: Paragvaj,
1868: Urugvaj,
1891: Čile,
1894: Nikaragva,
1898-1902: Kuba, Portoriko in Pacifik,
1914: Mehika,
1915: Haiti,
1916: Dominikanska republika,
1917: Mehika, 1926: Nikaragva,
1954: Gvatemala,
1964: Panama,
1965: Dominikana republika,
1967-1969: Gvatemale,
1983: Granada,
1989: Panama.
1994: Haiti,
2004: Haiti.
1801-1805: Severna Afrika,
1815: Severna Afrika,
1853-1854: Japonska,
1859: Kitajska,
1860: Angola,
1893: Havaji,
1900: Kitajska,
1917-1918: prva svetovna vojna,
1941-1945: druga svetovna vojna,
1945-1946: Kitajska,
1950-1953: Korejska vojna,
1964-1965: Indonezija,
1959-1975: Vietnamska vojna,
1983: Libanon,
1986: Libija,
1990-1991: Zalivska vojna,
1993-1994: Somalija,
1995: Bosna in Hercegovina,
1998: Sudan,
1998: Afganistan,
1999: Jugoslavija,
2001-2021: Afganistan.
2002: Filipini,
2003-2011: Iraška vojna,
2007: Somalija,
2011: Libija,
2011-2012: Jemen, Pakistan, Somalija,
2014 - Zdaj: Irak, Sirija in Ukrajina
1775-1776: Kanada in Atlantik,
1798-1800: Karibsko in Atlantsko morje,
1831: Argentina,
1846-1848: Mehika,
1852-1853: Argentino,
1853: Nikaragva,
1854: Nikaraguna,
1855: Urugvaj,
1856: Nova Granada,
1858: Urugvaj,
1859: Paragvaj,
1868: Urugvaj,
1891: Čile,
1894: Nikaragva,
1898-1902: Kuba, Portoriko in Pacifik,
1914: Mehika,
1915: Haiti,
1916: Dominikanska republika,
1917: Mehika, 1926: Nikaragva,
1954: Gvatemala,
1964: Panama,
1965: Dominikana republika,
1967-1969: Gvatemale,
1983: Granada,
1989: Panama.
1994: Haiti,
2004: Haiti.
1801-1805: Severna Afrika,
1815: Severna Afrika,
1853-1854: Japonska,
1859: Kitajska,
1860: Angola,
1893: Havaji,
1900: Kitajska,
1917-1918: prva svetovna vojna,
1941-1945: druga svetovna vojna,
1945-1946: Kitajska,
1950-1953: Korejska vojna,
1964-1965: Indonezija,
1959-1975: Vietnamska vojna,
1983: Libanon,
1986: Libija,
1990-1991: Zalivska vojna,
1993-1994: Somalija,
1995: Bosna in Hercegovina,
1998: Sudan,
1998: Afganistan,
1999: Jugoslavija,
2001-2021: Afganistan.
2002: Filipini,
2003-2011: Iraška vojna,
2007: Somalija,
2011: Libija,
2011-2012: Jemen, Pakistan, Somalija,
2014 - Zdaj: Irak, Sirija in Ukrajina
2020 is new 1984
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Corona World order
Zgodovina sprememb…
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jernejl ::
Iz pozicije moči? Mar nismo v poziciji moči še desetlja, če ne stoletja?Kolikor je mogoče. Če je možno še bolj kot severno korejo, naj bo tako.
Do kje bi pa ti izčrpal jedrsko velesilo, ki je bila že pred konfliktom na ravni Italije?
Na raven Pakistana? Severne Koreje?
Kdaj v zgodovini odnosov z rusi smo pa že poskusili s korenčkom?Ves čas. V zahvalo smo dobili sejanje smrti.
Še danes jim poleg palice dajemo deset korenčkov s tem, ko od njih velikodušno odkupujemo dobrine, s tem denarjem pa potem rusi financirajo sejanje smrti po evropi.
Nato pa širitev za širitvijo, rusom pa sankcije na sankcije. Ja, očitno razumejo samo palico.Širitev nata je zgolj posledica širjenja rusov, palice pa rusi do letos še niso videli, zato je skrajni čas, da jim jo pokažemo. V resnici bi jim jo morali že zdavnaj.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: jernejl ()
IL_DIAVOLO ::
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/vuci...
Srbija ena redkih drzav, ki ni zrtev EU rezima "si z nami ali si proti nam".
Dobri stari casi Hitlerja.
Srbija ena redkih drzav, ki ni zrtev EU rezima "si z nami ali si proti nam".
Dobri stari casi Hitlerja.
Con il Milan nel cuore!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS58IQczWWE&ab_channel=MariusMotora
Forza ragazzi!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS58IQczWWE&ab_channel=MariusMotora
Forza ragazzi!
kow ::
Idealno bi Kremelj porušili, obesili evropsko in ameriško zastavo, nato pa 50 let deputinizacije. Samo se ne bo zgodilo, ker so Rusi pokradli načrte za jedrsko orožje.
sir_mha ::
Pac-Man ::
Dolg članek v Ruščini, na povezavi je cel kup fotk:
https://twitter.com/rukov/status/151604...
The first detailed investigation into the rapes and three murders near Kiev was published - the village of Bogdanovka, on the other side of the river. With names, dates, map, reconstruction. Russia should not turn a blind eye to the crimes of its soldiers, this has nothing to do with honor:
https://meduza.io/feature/2022/04/18/du...
...
The old center of Bogdanovka stretched along the main street of Khmelnytsky, in the north - townhouses, and in the east - new "fields", where the mansions of the Kiev middle class are being gradually built up. As the locals say, “youth” enters them - that is, wealthy young families.
Now the inscription "Peaceful. Checked” can be found on many gates in the village - it is of a discreet blue color, but made large so that it can be seen from afar. After the “detours”, during which the Russian military allegedly had to look for men with experience in the ATO and for weapons, the soldiers left such marks all over Bogdanovka. Immediately after the retreat of Russian troops from the Kiev region and the end of the occupation, Ukrainian sappers entered the village, and new signs appeared on the same fences: large dots - it means the house has been checked; question marks mean it is dangerous to enter. Residents who returned home found bombs and tripwires in their cars and homes. And also - bodies and fresh burials.
...
The first column of Russian tanks appeared in Bogdanovka on Tuesday afternoon, March 8th. Street surveillance cameras recorded her movement on the central street of Bohdan Khmelnytsky around noon. Several armored vehicles immediately turned into courtyards - for example, onto Krymets Street; soldiers hid in unfinished houses. “There were 10–15 of them,” Valentin, a resident of Bogdanovka, tells Meduza. - They just banged [hacked and plundered] the store - and with bags over their shoulders they came to live with us. They broke in."
Russian troops enter Bogdanovka on March 8-9
...
On March 9, at least two murders and one rape took place in the eastern part of Bogdanovka. They were made by the same military men, who knew each other. This becomes obvious if we compare the stories about the events of March 9 from all the neighbors from Zalesskaya Street.
...
On the morning of March 9, a group of Russian servicemen began to "detour" Zalesskaya Street. Almost immediately, alcohol appeared in the hands of the military: “In one hand - a machine gun, in the other - a bottle. Shoots - and immediately drinks from the throat. And someone's red sneakers are already on their feet."
...
Russian soldiers took out the things stolen from the cottages on a stolen red ATV, locals say. “They attached a car trailer to it and took everything to the forest,” Alexander recalls from the neighboring Krymets street (the residents of Bogdanovka later actually found a bunch of TVs in the forest near the village).
...
The tension between Russian soldiers and local residents resulted in an armed clash in the afternoon. “They climbed into my mother-in-law’s house,” Oleg recalls. - Thank God, at that moment she was with a neighbor. And I was watching all this from my own home.” At that moment, guests were hiding at Oleg himself: “My daughter, a friend with his girlfriend also arrived ... 20-year-old girls. Son is 16 years old. I understood how it could all end, - Oleg recalls. “And somehow the decision came by itself: we had a hunting carbine - and my friend and I decided that if they climbed, we would shoot.”
When the military jumped over the fence to Oleg and began to open the gate from the inside, they opened fire from the house (who exactly, Oleg does not specify). “It seems that they even wounded someone,” Oleg says. - At least they shouted: "Three hundredth!" [wounded]. We won 15 minutes to quietly escape. We climbed over the fence - and there, to the forest.
Neighbor Kristina heard someone fire a carbine at Oleg's site. Then a group of frightened soldiers tried to hide in her yard. There were about 10 of them in total, the owner of the house, who met them on the porch, tells Meduza.
...
Chief among them, Kristina tells Meduza, was a military man named Mikhail Romanov. Cristina says he gave his name himself and tried to make contact; other soldiers called him the commander: “Mikhail looks about 30 years old, but very emotional. He quickly began to roll up to me - like a teenager. He said: “Oh, if not for the war…” and so on.
...
Christina and her daughter-in-law (brother's wife) "entertained" the soldiers with conversations on the terrace for about an hour. According to the girl, Romanov was the eldest among men, the rest were from 18 to 20 years old. They named different cities of Russia where they came from; she remembered Novosibirsk, Tomsk and Chelyabinsk. “Mikhail said that he was a contract soldier, and all the rest were conscripts and that we were lucky with his group: “You just don’t know what is happening now in other places. What atrocities are there,” Kristina tells Meduza.
...
Another military man whom Kristina remembered well was a “modest, polite” guy of about 25 years old, whom Mikhail addressed by the name Vitalik: “When they came to our house, Vitalik broke the glass and cut his hand. We started yelling at him: they say, do you come to your house like that too? He constantly apologized, offered to fix it. Vitalik also drank, Christina says, but he only said that he had recently married and really wanted to go home.
...
In total, Mikhail and Vitaly came to her three times. The last time was around 9 p.m. March 9. Both were heavily drunk. "[Having parked] he [Mikhail] went down the street and shouted: "Kristina-ah! Christina, where are you? like some ordinary country man. He demanded that I go with him. Mom knelt before him, began to beg not to drag me anywhere. Then Mikhail offered to go up to the bedroom on the second floor - but I persuaded him to go out into the yard for a smoke. Then he began to get hysterical, he took out a pistol: “There are no laws in war! I can do whatever I want with you, and I won't get anything for it. I'll shoot now if you don't come with me."
Christina claims that in response, she simply turned around and went into the house. Then Mikhail fired into the air and ran after her. This scene was confirmed to Meduza by Kristina's mother, who was watching her from the window. In the house, according to Christina, Mikhail burst into tears: “Do you think I want all this? I'm sick, I'm crazy. You are a crazy girl, stupid. Why are you not afraid of anything? Do you think I'm not scared? They will shoot us all here, gouge out our eyes, they just abandoned us.”
...
Two Russian soldiers in balaclavas came to the house of 52-year-old Victoria at about 21:30. “There were steps. Then the glass in the kitchen shattered - they fired at him from a machine gun. My husband and I screamed that there were no weapons and that there were children in the house.
...
Everything happened very quickly. The soldiers turned on a bright flashlight and shone successively on everyone's faces. There were four people in the house: Victoria, her mother-in-law, an aged woman, husband Alexei and a ten-year-old daughter. The beam of the lantern lingered on the daughter, and the taller soldier said: "Child, I'm sorry." “The second asked: “Do you have a cellar?” “No, just the pump room.” This is literally a hole two by two meters, - says Victoria. - We were allowed to take a blanket, the military began to drive us into this pump room
...
The hatch was closed for two minutes, then opened again, Victoria says: “A shorter soldier from top to bottom with a machine gun in his hand asked: “Do you have any cigarettes?” The husband answered: “No, he didn’t smoke for four days,” and then the soldier shot at us. The bullet hit her husband in the arm. Then the same soldier said to the second "**** [finish] him", and he immediately shot Lesha in the head. He went limp and began to fall right on his daughter, squeezed her - and so he died, right on her. I held his hand until I realized that all he was getting cold.
Victoria's neighbor Valentin corroborates this story.
...
Victoria agreed to tell Meduza the name of her murdered husband: Aleksey Alekseevich Rudenko. He did not serve in the army, as he has a disability due to a spinal disease. In the past few years, Alexey has been renovating, painting and repairing houses in Kyiv. “We did not keep any weapons at home. But my husband went on winter fishing, so he had a camouflage jacket with black fur and the same warm pants, explains Victoria. - I folded the jacket and just put it in the closet, and the trousers hung on a hanger. After the murder, when I went up to the house, I saw that the trousers were lying on the floor and the hanger was broken. Apparently, it all happened because of the pants.
...
“It was already half past two in the morning when we got out of the mine,” says Victoria. (...) Then I began to dress the child in dry clothes, because she was covered in dad's blood to the panties, I was also soaked all over.
...
Presumably around ten in the evening on March 9, Mikhail Romanov reached the house of Evgenia, who lives farthest to the east, on the outskirts of the field.
On that day, he already came there with a crowd of conscripts - just like to Christina. One of the soldiers then shot the dog (belonging to Yevgenia, her husband, and their four-year-old son) and began to break through the gate, she herself tells Meduza.
...
However, then Romanov saw a khaki jacket in a car parked near the house and changed dramatically. He became furious and fired an automatic burst over the head of Evgenia's husband. The couple managed to hush up the conflict: they said it was airsoft equipment.
...
Late in the evening, Mikhail Romanov returned on a quad bike - but not with Vitaly, but with another person - some third military man "in full black uniform", Yevgenia describes him.
...
They shout to me: "Get out!" I ask: "Where is my husband?" Then this man in a black uniform says: “You don’t have a husband anymore, he was a Nazi, that’s why I shot him.”
Yevgenia cried. A man in a black uniform put a gun to her head and said, "If you don't shut your mouth, we'll get the kid and show him how mom's brains are flying around the house." Mikhail Romanov ordered the woman to undress.
Yevgenia told Meduza that Romanov and a man in a black uniform (Mikhail did not address him by his first name) raped her in the corridor and on the stairs in turn while her son remained in the boiler room.
...
Immediately behind the dug-up grave, a large dog cage is empty. There are no more animals in the house; on the lawn lies the corpse of a puppy. Evgenia and Alexei had two adult Alabai and nine puppies, she tells Meduza.
Before the war, says Evgenia, she and Alexei were going to finish work on the site - they had already dug a hole for a pond. The husband wanted to go on a motorcycle trip through Western Ukraine and bought equipment: tents, sleeping bags and dishes (which the family ended up cooking their own meals during the occupation). “Look what they leave behind,” Evgenia shows photos of the ashes. - We had a happy life with a bunch of plans, and now the devil knows where I am with a child, I can’t gather myself together and understand how to live with it. They should all be punished."
...
Just a few days before the retreat of Russian troops from Bogdanovka on March 28, Meduza found out that another rape took place there.
Before the war, Svetlana Perminova (real name, she agreed to call him Meduza) worked as an accountant in Brovary. But during the Russian occupation, Svetlana, with her husband Eduard and their pregnant daughter, went to the dacha - to the Voloshka gardening association located on the territory of Bogdanovka.
...
Three Russian soldiers armed with machine guns appeared at her station on the evening of March 28.
...
Perminova does not remember how much time the military spent in her house: "For me it was an eternity." But by ten in the evening, when it was completely dark, one of the soldiers noticed a large bed in the basement. “He pointed to her and said: “Look, what a fucking track,” Svetlana recalls. - Well, that's all: I hid in a corner and ... They just raped me. They took the food, they took the money - that's okay, it's all garbage. But they just raped me. I am 55 years old - who needed me?
Two servicemen raped Svetlana in turn, she recalls; the third watched and masturbated. “I thought they would simply strangle me,” Perminova recalls. - They choked me; my fingers grabbed my throat completely - and I don’t even remember if I lost consciousness or didn’t lose consciousness.
The military did not address each other by name or call sign. Svetlana does not remember the faces of the rapists. “They were of Slavic nationality. The police showed pictures of another [Mikhail Romanov], but I don't know if, honestly, [it was him or not]."
...
Svetlana found out about what happened to Eduard only in mid-April: “He was tortured and then shot. And the body was found in a basement in Shevchenkov ( a village in the Brovarsky district, 16 kilometers east of Bogdanovka, - approx. Meduza ). He went in that direction - and apparently they took him. He gave our guys from the [Armed Forces of Ukraine] geolocation, the amount of [Russian military] equipment that was on the way - I'm afraid they all found it on his phone.
...
https://twitter.com/rukov/status/151604...
The first detailed investigation into the rapes and three murders near Kiev was published - the village of Bogdanovka, on the other side of the river. With names, dates, map, reconstruction. Russia should not turn a blind eye to the crimes of its soldiers, this has nothing to do with honor:
https://meduza.io/feature/2022/04/18/du...
...
The old center of Bogdanovka stretched along the main street of Khmelnytsky, in the north - townhouses, and in the east - new "fields", where the mansions of the Kiev middle class are being gradually built up. As the locals say, “youth” enters them - that is, wealthy young families.
Now the inscription "Peaceful. Checked” can be found on many gates in the village - it is of a discreet blue color, but made large so that it can be seen from afar. After the “detours”, during which the Russian military allegedly had to look for men with experience in the ATO and for weapons, the soldiers left such marks all over Bogdanovka. Immediately after the retreat of Russian troops from the Kiev region and the end of the occupation, Ukrainian sappers entered the village, and new signs appeared on the same fences: large dots - it means the house has been checked; question marks mean it is dangerous to enter. Residents who returned home found bombs and tripwires in their cars and homes. And also - bodies and fresh burials.
...
The first column of Russian tanks appeared in Bogdanovka on Tuesday afternoon, March 8th. Street surveillance cameras recorded her movement on the central street of Bohdan Khmelnytsky around noon. Several armored vehicles immediately turned into courtyards - for example, onto Krymets Street; soldiers hid in unfinished houses. “There were 10–15 of them,” Valentin, a resident of Bogdanovka, tells Meduza. - They just banged [hacked and plundered] the store - and with bags over their shoulders they came to live with us. They broke in."
Russian troops enter Bogdanovka on March 8-9
...
On March 9, at least two murders and one rape took place in the eastern part of Bogdanovka. They were made by the same military men, who knew each other. This becomes obvious if we compare the stories about the events of March 9 from all the neighbors from Zalesskaya Street.
...
On the morning of March 9, a group of Russian servicemen began to "detour" Zalesskaya Street. Almost immediately, alcohol appeared in the hands of the military: “In one hand - a machine gun, in the other - a bottle. Shoots - and immediately drinks from the throat. And someone's red sneakers are already on their feet."
...
Russian soldiers took out the things stolen from the cottages on a stolen red ATV, locals say. “They attached a car trailer to it and took everything to the forest,” Alexander recalls from the neighboring Krymets street (the residents of Bogdanovka later actually found a bunch of TVs in the forest near the village).
...
The tension between Russian soldiers and local residents resulted in an armed clash in the afternoon. “They climbed into my mother-in-law’s house,” Oleg recalls. - Thank God, at that moment she was with a neighbor. And I was watching all this from my own home.” At that moment, guests were hiding at Oleg himself: “My daughter, a friend with his girlfriend also arrived ... 20-year-old girls. Son is 16 years old. I understood how it could all end, - Oleg recalls. “And somehow the decision came by itself: we had a hunting carbine - and my friend and I decided that if they climbed, we would shoot.”
When the military jumped over the fence to Oleg and began to open the gate from the inside, they opened fire from the house (who exactly, Oleg does not specify). “It seems that they even wounded someone,” Oleg says. - At least they shouted: "Three hundredth!" [wounded]. We won 15 minutes to quietly escape. We climbed over the fence - and there, to the forest.
Neighbor Kristina heard someone fire a carbine at Oleg's site. Then a group of frightened soldiers tried to hide in her yard. There were about 10 of them in total, the owner of the house, who met them on the porch, tells Meduza.
...
Chief among them, Kristina tells Meduza, was a military man named Mikhail Romanov. Cristina says he gave his name himself and tried to make contact; other soldiers called him the commander: “Mikhail looks about 30 years old, but very emotional. He quickly began to roll up to me - like a teenager. He said: “Oh, if not for the war…” and so on.
...
Christina and her daughter-in-law (brother's wife) "entertained" the soldiers with conversations on the terrace for about an hour. According to the girl, Romanov was the eldest among men, the rest were from 18 to 20 years old. They named different cities of Russia where they came from; she remembered Novosibirsk, Tomsk and Chelyabinsk. “Mikhail said that he was a contract soldier, and all the rest were conscripts and that we were lucky with his group: “You just don’t know what is happening now in other places. What atrocities are there,” Kristina tells Meduza.
...
Another military man whom Kristina remembered well was a “modest, polite” guy of about 25 years old, whom Mikhail addressed by the name Vitalik: “When they came to our house, Vitalik broke the glass and cut his hand. We started yelling at him: they say, do you come to your house like that too? He constantly apologized, offered to fix it. Vitalik also drank, Christina says, but he only said that he had recently married and really wanted to go home.
...
In total, Mikhail and Vitaly came to her three times. The last time was around 9 p.m. March 9. Both were heavily drunk. "[Having parked] he [Mikhail] went down the street and shouted: "Kristina-ah! Christina, where are you? like some ordinary country man. He demanded that I go with him. Mom knelt before him, began to beg not to drag me anywhere. Then Mikhail offered to go up to the bedroom on the second floor - but I persuaded him to go out into the yard for a smoke. Then he began to get hysterical, he took out a pistol: “There are no laws in war! I can do whatever I want with you, and I won't get anything for it. I'll shoot now if you don't come with me."
Christina claims that in response, she simply turned around and went into the house. Then Mikhail fired into the air and ran after her. This scene was confirmed to Meduza by Kristina's mother, who was watching her from the window. In the house, according to Christina, Mikhail burst into tears: “Do you think I want all this? I'm sick, I'm crazy. You are a crazy girl, stupid. Why are you not afraid of anything? Do you think I'm not scared? They will shoot us all here, gouge out our eyes, they just abandoned us.”
...
Two Russian soldiers in balaclavas came to the house of 52-year-old Victoria at about 21:30. “There were steps. Then the glass in the kitchen shattered - they fired at him from a machine gun. My husband and I screamed that there were no weapons and that there were children in the house.
...
Everything happened very quickly. The soldiers turned on a bright flashlight and shone successively on everyone's faces. There were four people in the house: Victoria, her mother-in-law, an aged woman, husband Alexei and a ten-year-old daughter. The beam of the lantern lingered on the daughter, and the taller soldier said: "Child, I'm sorry." “The second asked: “Do you have a cellar?” “No, just the pump room.” This is literally a hole two by two meters, - says Victoria. - We were allowed to take a blanket, the military began to drive us into this pump room
...
The hatch was closed for two minutes, then opened again, Victoria says: “A shorter soldier from top to bottom with a machine gun in his hand asked: “Do you have any cigarettes?” The husband answered: “No, he didn’t smoke for four days,” and then the soldier shot at us. The bullet hit her husband in the arm. Then the same soldier said to the second "**** [finish] him", and he immediately shot Lesha in the head. He went limp and began to fall right on his daughter, squeezed her - and so he died, right on her. I held his hand until I realized that all he was getting cold.
Victoria's neighbor Valentin corroborates this story.
...
Victoria agreed to tell Meduza the name of her murdered husband: Aleksey Alekseevich Rudenko. He did not serve in the army, as he has a disability due to a spinal disease. In the past few years, Alexey has been renovating, painting and repairing houses in Kyiv. “We did not keep any weapons at home. But my husband went on winter fishing, so he had a camouflage jacket with black fur and the same warm pants, explains Victoria. - I folded the jacket and just put it in the closet, and the trousers hung on a hanger. After the murder, when I went up to the house, I saw that the trousers were lying on the floor and the hanger was broken. Apparently, it all happened because of the pants.
...
“It was already half past two in the morning when we got out of the mine,” says Victoria. (...) Then I began to dress the child in dry clothes, because she was covered in dad's blood to the panties, I was also soaked all over.
...
Presumably around ten in the evening on March 9, Mikhail Romanov reached the house of Evgenia, who lives farthest to the east, on the outskirts of the field.
On that day, he already came there with a crowd of conscripts - just like to Christina. One of the soldiers then shot the dog (belonging to Yevgenia, her husband, and their four-year-old son) and began to break through the gate, she herself tells Meduza.
...
However, then Romanov saw a khaki jacket in a car parked near the house and changed dramatically. He became furious and fired an automatic burst over the head of Evgenia's husband. The couple managed to hush up the conflict: they said it was airsoft equipment.
...
Late in the evening, Mikhail Romanov returned on a quad bike - but not with Vitaly, but with another person - some third military man "in full black uniform", Yevgenia describes him.
...
They shout to me: "Get out!" I ask: "Where is my husband?" Then this man in a black uniform says: “You don’t have a husband anymore, he was a Nazi, that’s why I shot him.”
Yevgenia cried. A man in a black uniform put a gun to her head and said, "If you don't shut your mouth, we'll get the kid and show him how mom's brains are flying around the house." Mikhail Romanov ordered the woman to undress.
Yevgenia told Meduza that Romanov and a man in a black uniform (Mikhail did not address him by his first name) raped her in the corridor and on the stairs in turn while her son remained in the boiler room.
...
Immediately behind the dug-up grave, a large dog cage is empty. There are no more animals in the house; on the lawn lies the corpse of a puppy. Evgenia and Alexei had two adult Alabai and nine puppies, she tells Meduza.
Before the war, says Evgenia, she and Alexei were going to finish work on the site - they had already dug a hole for a pond. The husband wanted to go on a motorcycle trip through Western Ukraine and bought equipment: tents, sleeping bags and dishes (which the family ended up cooking their own meals during the occupation). “Look what they leave behind,” Evgenia shows photos of the ashes. - We had a happy life with a bunch of plans, and now the devil knows where I am with a child, I can’t gather myself together and understand how to live with it. They should all be punished."
...
Just a few days before the retreat of Russian troops from Bogdanovka on March 28, Meduza found out that another rape took place there.
Before the war, Svetlana Perminova (real name, she agreed to call him Meduza) worked as an accountant in Brovary. But during the Russian occupation, Svetlana, with her husband Eduard and their pregnant daughter, went to the dacha - to the Voloshka gardening association located on the territory of Bogdanovka.
...
Three Russian soldiers armed with machine guns appeared at her station on the evening of March 28.
...
Perminova does not remember how much time the military spent in her house: "For me it was an eternity." But by ten in the evening, when it was completely dark, one of the soldiers noticed a large bed in the basement. “He pointed to her and said: “Look, what a fucking track,” Svetlana recalls. - Well, that's all: I hid in a corner and ... They just raped me. They took the food, they took the money - that's okay, it's all garbage. But they just raped me. I am 55 years old - who needed me?
Two servicemen raped Svetlana in turn, she recalls; the third watched and masturbated. “I thought they would simply strangle me,” Perminova recalls. - They choked me; my fingers grabbed my throat completely - and I don’t even remember if I lost consciousness or didn’t lose consciousness.
The military did not address each other by name or call sign. Svetlana does not remember the faces of the rapists. “They were of Slavic nationality. The police showed pictures of another [Mikhail Romanov], but I don't know if, honestly, [it was him or not]."
...
Svetlana found out about what happened to Eduard only in mid-April: “He was tortured and then shot. And the body was found in a basement in Shevchenkov ( a village in the Brovarsky district, 16 kilometers east of Bogdanovka, - approx. Meduza ). He went in that direction - and apparently they took him. He gave our guys from the [Armed Forces of Ukraine] geolocation, the amount of [Russian military] equipment that was on the way - I'm afraid they all found it on his phone.
...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
TezkoDihanje ::
lol
https://twitter.com/CanadianUkrain1/sta...
Just look at those skills. Destroying a #Russian BMP by firing THROUGH a building.Glory to #Ukraine
https://twitter.com/CanadianUkrain1/sta...
Azov counterattacking in #Mariupol.
These aren't regular men, these are Space Marines. Relentless.
https://twitter.com/CanadianUkrain1/sta...
Just look at those skills. Destroying a #Russian BMP by firing THROUGH a building.Glory to #Ukraine
https://twitter.com/CanadianUkrain1/sta...
Azov counterattacking in #Mariupol.
These aren't regular men, these are Space Marines. Relentless.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: TezkoDihanje ()
asdf_jklc ::
Res ste neverjetni - poglejte si tečaj evra danes in tečaj rublja, pa potem študirajte, kako uspešen je zahod (razen ZDA). Na račun ukrajinske vojne živimo slabše in plačujemo, da se nam cela Rusija in ZDA smejejo. In potem je v Evropi svoboda - hlapci ZDA ja.
endelin ::
Res ste neverjetni - poglejte si tečaj evra danes in tečaj rublja, pa potem študirajte, kako uspešen je zahod (razen ZDA). Na račun ukrajinske vojne živimo slabše in plačujemo, da se nam cela Rusija in ZDA smejejo. In potem je v Evropi svoboda - hlapci ZDA ja.
Pozabil si samo da je en pulover stal 2000rubljev, sedaj stane 3000rubljev
m0LN4r ::
Comandante je izjavil:
Imas samo privide, da zivis bolje kot Rus.
Resno, a si ti ze kdaj bil vzhodno od Lendave? Ali pac nabijas na polno?
Ze na Madzarskem je beda, potem pa dlje kot gres proti vzhodu, slabse je. Bi rekel da je vzhod Rusije ciganija, ampak bi zalil nase cigane - ti so namrec ze vsi po vrsti videli WC skoljko in tekoco vodo.
Odvisno beda jaz temu nebi rekel, ljudje so tam dusevno bolj svobodni in nematerialni. Mi smo ze povsem zastrupljeni z konzumiranjem.
Madzari so najbolj kul, sem bil veckrat tam in so skromni bolj srecni in sprosceni, kot slovenci z iphoni in Q7kami. Izzveto seveda, da cigani niso madzari, jih je pa veliko in se hitro pomesa stvari.
Faking smo bli fuzbal spilat, smo dobili nek bogi bograc, kos kruha in pivo, ker smo bili gosti. Prinas na vaskem nivoju zastonj nebi dobil nic.
Pa kaj mene briga, ce v diskacu redbull cola ni iz pravega redbulla in cole in se zmesa pod mizo energy in cola iz lidla. Stane pa manj kot en evro, pa nihce se ne jebe za statusne simbole tam. Je bil diskac v katerem sem se ga 100x bolj nazurat kot prinas.
Nevem no. Jaz jih poznam kot prijazne, postene, skromne ljudi, ki ne komplicirajo in niso zaslepljeni z konzumiranjem in statusnimi simboli, ni tako toksicen svet, kot nas.
https://ref.trade.re/38mvdvxm
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fur80 ::
Ne lepil bom iz cnn, bbc in 24kur
Putin: Razmere v ruskem gospodarstvu se stabilizirajo, tečaj rublja se vrača na raven iz začetka leta
Država je zdržala pritisk zahodnih sankcij brez primere.
Predsednik je kot eno od posledic sankcij proti Ruski federaciji opozoril na močan upad življenjskega standarda Evropejcev.
Putin je naročil, naj pospeši prehod ruske zunanje trgovine na rublje in nacionalne valute drugih držav.
@RVVoenkor
Putin pravi, da se razmere stabilizirajo? :D Je bila na RT oddaja mogoče? :D Rubelj držijo umetno gor in to samo zate, ker druga ne razumeš in te lahko farbajo.. :D s tem si pa uničujejo gospodarstvo in rast!
Poldi112 ::
Nato pa širitev za širitvijo, rusom pa sankcije na sankcije. Ja, očitno razumejo samo palico.Širitev nata je zgolj posledica širjenja rusov, palice pa rusi do letos še niso videli, zato je skrajni čas, da jim jo pokažemo. V resnici bi jim jo morali že zdavnaj.
In kam točno so se rusi širili, da se je zahodna Evropa ustrašila za svojo suverenost in se začela širiti k rusom?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.