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Ukrajina Part II
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Fritz ::
Za razliko od tebe, jaz vem kakšno je stališče OZN. In to bi vedel sam, če bi sploh prebral tekst, na katerega si dal povezavo:
In a statement on Monday, 4 April, UN human rights chief Michelle Bachelet said she was horrified by the images of people lying dead on the streets and in improvised graves in the town of Bucha. It is vital that all efforts are made to ensure independent and effective investigations into what happened in Bucha.
Se pravi da ti sklepaš da bodo za to obtožili UKR??
hmm - ja - dokaj verjetno
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/...
https://unric.org/en/un-calls-for-an-in...
pustimo se presenetiti - posebej zdaj ko so Rusijo šutnili ven iz Human Rights UN - tako da malo uravnotežijo zadevo...
Nope, ne sklepam, ravno zato bi rad videl, da zadeve razišče neodvisna preiskovalna komisija. Nekaj drugega je, če ukrajinski vojaki sami objavijo posnetke pobijanja ruskih vojnih ujetnikov in se s tem hvalijo. Tam je zadeva popolnoma jasna.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/151...
When Germany's government says that ending EU imports of russian gas & oil will not end the war in Ukraine, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝗹𝗶𝗲.
A thread 🧵:
In 2021 russia government revenue was: 25,286.5 trillion rubles, of which 9,056.5 trillion (35.82%) were gas & oil revenue.
49% of russia's oil revenue and 74% of russia's gas revenue was generated by exports to Europe.
Europe thus contributed 5,019 trillion rubles to russia's federal budget.
In 2021 russia government expenditure was: 24,771.8 trillion rubles, of which 3,576.1 trillion were for defence and 2,337.7 trillion for internal repression - together these two amount to 5,913.8 trillion.
In short gas & oil revenue from exports to the EU paid for:
• 100% of putin's military 𝙖𝙣𝙙
• 61.72% of putin's internal repression
Gas prices are now double of 2021 and so the EU now finances 100% of putin's military 𝙖𝙣𝙙 repression 𝙖𝙣𝙙 all of the war's costs.
If the EU stopped buying russian oil & gas, putin would lose instantly more than 20% of his government's revenue.
With russia unable to borrow and its economy shrinking that loss is impossible to compensate without massive cuts of other government expenditures:
putin would have to cut 𝙖𝙡𝙡 healthcare expenditures 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖𝙡𝙡 education expenditures 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖𝙡𝙡 pensions 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖𝙡𝙡 government salaries by 45% to keep his military and regime forces working, and then cut 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙣 𝙢𝙤𝙧𝙚 expenditures to keep the war going.
Such cuts would lead to massive social unrest in russia and threaten putin's regime.
Not cutting other government expenditures would leave putin unable to finance his internal repression troops, his military, and his war.
There would be only extremely bad options for putin.
In short: the EU ending oil and gas buys from russia would cripple putin's regime and either end the regime or the war within a few weeks.
But as long as the German government continues to block 𝙖𝙡𝙡 energy sanctions, putin is able to stay in power, continue the war, kill 10,000s of people, and maybe even win the war.
The only reason this war continues is Germany.
The only reason putin's rule is safe is Germany.
Germany is putin's ally. Germany is an enemy of democracy. Germany is putin's willing partner in genocide.
All numbers were taken from the russian Ministry of Finance's website, were every little bit of russia's budget data can be found in the statistics section: https://minfin.gov.ru
When Germany's government says that ending EU imports of russian gas & oil will not end the war in Ukraine, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝗹𝗶𝗲.
A thread 🧵:
In 2021 russia government revenue was: 25,286.5 trillion rubles, of which 9,056.5 trillion (35.82%) were gas & oil revenue.
49% of russia's oil revenue and 74% of russia's gas revenue was generated by exports to Europe.
Europe thus contributed 5,019 trillion rubles to russia's federal budget.
In 2021 russia government expenditure was: 24,771.8 trillion rubles, of which 3,576.1 trillion were for defence and 2,337.7 trillion for internal repression - together these two amount to 5,913.8 trillion.
In short gas & oil revenue from exports to the EU paid for:
• 100% of putin's military 𝙖𝙣𝙙
• 61.72% of putin's internal repression
Gas prices are now double of 2021 and so the EU now finances 100% of putin's military 𝙖𝙣𝙙 repression 𝙖𝙣𝙙 all of the war's costs.
If the EU stopped buying russian oil & gas, putin would lose instantly more than 20% of his government's revenue.
With russia unable to borrow and its economy shrinking that loss is impossible to compensate without massive cuts of other government expenditures:
putin would have to cut 𝙖𝙡𝙡 healthcare expenditures 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖𝙡𝙡 education expenditures 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖𝙡𝙡 pensions 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖𝙡𝙡 government salaries by 45% to keep his military and regime forces working, and then cut 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙣 𝙢𝙤𝙧𝙚 expenditures to keep the war going.
Such cuts would lead to massive social unrest in russia and threaten putin's regime.
Not cutting other government expenditures would leave putin unable to finance his internal repression troops, his military, and his war.
There would be only extremely bad options for putin.
In short: the EU ending oil and gas buys from russia would cripple putin's regime and either end the regime or the war within a few weeks.
But as long as the German government continues to block 𝙖𝙡𝙡 energy sanctions, putin is able to stay in power, continue the war, kill 10,000s of people, and maybe even win the war.
The only reason this war continues is Germany.
The only reason putin's rule is safe is Germany.
Germany is putin's ally. Germany is an enemy of democracy. Germany is putin's willing partner in genocide.
All numbers were taken from the russian Ministry of Finance's website, were every little bit of russia's budget data can be found in the statistics section: https://minfin.gov.ru
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
PrimoZ_ ::
Poldi gori, se nam smeji!
:)
Sicer pa gremo proti 2700 kosom uničene ruske krame :)
Russia - 2669, of which: destroyed: 1402, damaged: 37, abandoned: 236, captured: 994
Tanks (450, of which destroyed: 221, damaged: 6, abandoned: 41, captured: 182)
:)
Sicer pa gremo proti 2700 kosom uničene ruske krame :)
Russia - 2669, of which: destroyed: 1402, damaged: 37, abandoned: 236, captured: 994
Tanks (450, of which destroyed: 221, damaged: 6, abandoned: 41, captured: 182)
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fur80 ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
Seveda imamo željo bit povprečen kitajski delavec v Šenzenu tam nekje v 30. nadstropju zraven tovarne!
Ta povprečen Kitajec je zdaj pod Slovencem in bil je veliko časa še več izpod našega standarda, samo glede na Kitajski vzpon bo poprečen Slovenec za 20 let pod njim!
Pa ne moreš to primerjat, Kitajcev je miljarda pa pol, nas pa 2 miljona, s katerim mestom na Kitajskem nas primerjaš? Mi se lahko primerjamo z uspešnimi manjšimi evropskimi državami.
Pa še ena ruska resnica!
Tankies:
NATO lies!!! Tochka-U hasn't been in service with Russia for years!!
Speaker at a Russian parade not even a year ago:
And here...!
Comes...!
THE TOCHKA-UUUUUUUUUUU!!!
https://twitter.com/AbraxasSpa/status/1...
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Scaramouche ::
Pa ne moreš to primerjat, Kitajcev je miljarda pa pol, nas pa 2 miljona, s katerim mestom na Kitajskem nas primerjaš? Mi se lahko primerjamo z uspešnimi manjšimi evropskimi državami.
Seveda lahko, ker govorimo o povprečju in to velja za male ali pa velike uspešne države!
fur80 ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
Pa ne moreš to primerjat, Kitajcev je miljarda pa pol, nas pa 2 miljona, s katerim mestom na Kitajskem nas primerjaš? Mi se lahko primerjamo z uspešnimi manjšimi evropskimi državami.
Seveda lahko, ker govorimo o povprečju in to velja za male ali pa velike uspešne države!
Ne ne moreš! :D
BlaY0 ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/RolandOliphant/stat...
Death toll in Kramatorsk climbs to 50 after 12 wounded died in hospital - city mayor. Fatalities include five children
https://twitter.com/KyleJGlen/status/15...
Unsurprisingly, when the news first broke of the missile strike, Russian TG channels were celebrating and claiming it was an attack against Ukrainian positions. After casualties emerged, they started blaming Ukrainians.
OK, zdaj tkole mamo...
https://tg.la7.it/esteri/guerra-ucraina...
...posnetek s serijsko številko rakete. Tole + paper trail, ki bi ga UA v končni fazi morala pokazat, bi lahko zadostovalo za ICC case. UA se v tem primeru ne piše nič dobrega saj mnogo indicev kaže, da so v konkretnem primeru odgovorni prav oni.
Jarno ::
Zanimiv posnetek uničenja helikopterja na tleh:
Opaziti se da tudi protizračne sisteme, ki pa tukaj niso pomagali.
Opaziti se da tudi protizračne sisteme, ki pa tukaj niso pomagali.
#65W!
Scaramouche ::
B86Tech ::
wow, precej redko sm aktiven na tem forumu, ga pa spremljam že več kot desetletje, pa vidm da je nivo pogovora precej na dnu...
bolj ko ne se samo prerekate kdo je večji debil ker podpira nasprotno stran, kaj je point tega?
A se je tezko postavt v nek "racionalen" polozaj pa pogledat stvari od dalec?
Jaz ne verjamem ne eni ne drugi propagandi, ker v vojni si pac dovolijo prevec obe strani in je tezko preverit stvari cist 100%
Rusi so imeli nek razlog da so napadli, kar pa ne opravičuje dejanja, jaz sicer dvomim v te razloge ki jih navajajo (nacisti v ukrajini, čeprav Azov bataljon ima dokazano povezavo z
neo nacisti pa desni ekstremizem je bil že en čas precej očiten v Ukrajini ampak ne moreš zato metat bombe na civiliste ker so ti sesul kup vojske, ki je bila v štartu zavedena(dokazi),
slabo izurjena ipd. in je sedaj treba se pa enemu maščevat - po možnosti nekomu ki nima veze s tem in je tudi noče imet) in ja ruski vojaki nimajo kaj iskat v Ukrajini...
Medtem ko zelenski stalno navija za 3WW... Pa azov bataljon je bil vključen v uradno vojsko (ne glede na to da imajo nazi simbole - sploh glede tega mi je bilo precej
zanimivo ko sem enkrat gledal en dokumentarec o tem bataljonu, še dober čas pred vojno, kako so novačil mularijo in jih uril v hitler jugend stilu... potem pa vpraša reporterka to žensko
od azov, zakaj imajo black sun simbol pa se začne sprenevedat... wtf?) plus politika se vodi na podoben način kot v Rusiji (odstranjevanje nasportnikov ipd.)
Včasih se mi je putin zdel se dokaj inteligenten, pa sposoben, nekak je znal obiti provokacije, bil nekakšna protiutež američanom ipd. tle se je pokazal da ni ne eno ne drugo...
ena stvar je ziher, civilnih žrtev je precej... in za njih je odgovorna v prvi vrsti politika na obeh straneh...
torej še enkrat, kaj je point nabijanja postov en proti drugem ? znate odgovorit ? mislim da veste o kom govorim
bolj ko ne se samo prerekate kdo je večji debil ker podpira nasprotno stran, kaj je point tega?
A se je tezko postavt v nek "racionalen" polozaj pa pogledat stvari od dalec?
Jaz ne verjamem ne eni ne drugi propagandi, ker v vojni si pac dovolijo prevec obe strani in je tezko preverit stvari cist 100%
Rusi so imeli nek razlog da so napadli, kar pa ne opravičuje dejanja, jaz sicer dvomim v te razloge ki jih navajajo (nacisti v ukrajini, čeprav Azov bataljon ima dokazano povezavo z
neo nacisti pa desni ekstremizem je bil že en čas precej očiten v Ukrajini ampak ne moreš zato metat bombe na civiliste ker so ti sesul kup vojske, ki je bila v štartu zavedena(dokazi),
slabo izurjena ipd. in je sedaj treba se pa enemu maščevat - po možnosti nekomu ki nima veze s tem in je tudi noče imet) in ja ruski vojaki nimajo kaj iskat v Ukrajini...
Medtem ko zelenski stalno navija za 3WW... Pa azov bataljon je bil vključen v uradno vojsko (ne glede na to da imajo nazi simbole - sploh glede tega mi je bilo precej
zanimivo ko sem enkrat gledal en dokumentarec o tem bataljonu, še dober čas pred vojno, kako so novačil mularijo in jih uril v hitler jugend stilu... potem pa vpraša reporterka to žensko
od azov, zakaj imajo black sun simbol pa se začne sprenevedat... wtf?) plus politika se vodi na podoben način kot v Rusiji (odstranjevanje nasportnikov ipd.)
Včasih se mi je putin zdel se dokaj inteligenten, pa sposoben, nekak je znal obiti provokacije, bil nekakšna protiutež američanom ipd. tle se je pokazal da ni ne eno ne drugo...
ena stvar je ziher, civilnih žrtev je precej... in za njih je odgovorna v prvi vrsti politika na obeh straneh...
torej še enkrat, kaj je point nabijanja postov en proti drugem ? znate odgovorit ? mislim da veste o kom govorim
BlaY0 ::
wow, precej redko sm aktiven na tem forumu, ga pa spremljam že več kot desetletje, pa vidm da je nivo pogovora precej na dnu...
bolj ko ne se samo prerekate kdo je večji debil ker podpira nasprotno stran, kaj je point tega?
A se je tezko postavt v nek "racionalen" polozaj pa pogledat stvari od dalec?
Jaz ne verjamem ne eni ne drugi propagandi, ker v vojni si pac dovolijo prevec obe strani in je tezko preverit stvari cist 100%
Rusi so imeli nek razlog da so napadli, kar pa ne opravičuje dejanja, jaz sicer dvomim v te razloge ki jih navajajo (nacisti v ukrajini, čeprav Azov bataljon ima dokazano povezavo z
neo nacisti pa desni ekstremizem je bil že en čas precej očiten v Ukrajini ampak ne moreš zato metat bombe na civiliste ker so ti sesul kup vojske, ki je bila v štartu zavedena(dokazi),
slabo izurjena ipd. in je sedaj treba se pa enemu maščevat - po možnosti nekomu ki nima veze s tem in je tudi noče imet) in ja ruski vojaki nimajo kaj iskat v Ukrajini...
Medtem ko zelenski stalno navija za 3WW... Pa azov bataljon je bil vključen v uradno vojsko (ne glede na to da imajo nazi simbole - sploh glede tega mi je bilo precej
zanimivo ko sem enkrat gledal en dokumentarec o tem bataljonu, še dober čas pred vojno, kako so novačil mularijo in jih uril v hitler jugend stilu... potem pa vpraša reporterka to žensko
od azov, zakaj imajo black sun simbol pa se začne sprenevedat... wtf?) plus politika se vodi na podoben način kot v Rusiji (odstranjevanje nasportnikov ipd.)
Včasih se mi je putin zdel se dokaj inteligenten, pa sposoben, nekak je znal obiti provokacije, bil nekakšna protiutež američanom ipd. tle se je pokazal da ni ne eno ne drugo...
ena stvar je ziher, civilnih žrtev je precej... in za njih je odgovorna v prvi vrsti politika na obeh straneh...
torej še enkrat, kaj je point nabijanja postov en proti drugem ? znate odgovorit ? mislim da veste o kom govorim
Hja, se moram kar strinjat s tabo. Dober povzetek...
sir_mha ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
PIPISTREL - pa ne bom več našteval...
Ni naš!
ne vem o kakšnem računalniškem raju v YU ti tukaj sanjaš...[
ne o raju, poglej ekspanzijo raznih komunističnih držav v Aziji, pa so začele za nami!
Saj jim je Iskra dobavila prve napredne računalnike!
Leta 1988 je Slovenijo tako obiskala močna sovjetska delegacija, ki jo je vodil sam Mihail Gorbačov. Ne glede na uradni program obiska je Ruse takrat dejansko zanimalo samo eno: ali bi lahko s pomočjo slovenskega računalniškega podjetja prišli do računalniške tehnologije, s katero so močno zaostajali za Zahodom.
Kot kaže pa so se takrat vodilni v Jugoslaviji ustrašili, saj so srečanje Gorbačova z inženirji Iskre Delte preprečili tako, da so direktorju Škrubeju z injekcijo v telo vbrizgali snov, zaradi katere je naenkrat dobil visoko vročino. Kot pravi v knjigi Škrubej, je šlo za načrtovano diverzijo, saj se je oblast zbala, da bi računalniško podjetje, ki ga ni nihče dobro nadzoroval, zaradi proizvodnje strateških računalniških sistemov postalo premočno. V trenutku, ko bi Iskra Delta dejansko lahko postala pomemben igralec na mednarodnem tehnološkem prizorišču, saj so imeli veliko naročil in razvojnih načrtov, žal ni imela podpore ne v stari jugoslovanski še manj pa v novi slovenski oblasti, zato so jo kmalu zatem razkosali, močan razvojni oddelek pa razpustili.
Iskra Delta je leta 1986 uresničila projekt za računalniško povezavo kitajskih policijskih postaj med njihovimi osmimi največjimi mesti. Pogodbo je podpisal tedanji notranji minister Stane Dolanc, ki je odšel na Kitajsko in sploh ni vedel, da bo dobil v podpis pogodbo za tako neverjeten projekt s primerno ceno.
Se ne spoznam močno na to temo, sem pa slišal, da je bila težava Iskre računalnikov v tem, da smo pač spet preprodajalo Zahodno tehnologijo na Vzhod, in to mnogim na Zahodu ni bilo všeč. Če so bile to majhne in omejena serije ali projekti je še šlo, potem so se pa vedno pojavili problemi.
yayo ::
Poldi112 ::
Oznaka za Ukrajino: ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 @ Wikipedia
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
BlaY0 ::
...posnetek s serijsko številko rakete. Tole + paper trail, ki bi ga UA v končni fazi morala pokazat, bi lahko zadostovalo za ICC case. UA se v tem primeru ne piše nič dobrega saj mnogo indicev kaže, da so v konkretnem primeru odgovorni prav oni.
kaj je to UA?
Ukrajina.
sir_mha ::
"A new wartime joke:
- Mom, I'm in Ukraine. They're shooting, it's scary, our BMP was smashed, there is such a meat grinder here!
- A meat grinder? What for? You'd better take a blender."
jernejl ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
Glede Iskre nisi nič slišal?
Na tej osnovi smo lahko razvili in izdelali prvi osebni računalnik v Evropi z imenom Partner. Na trg smo prišli v istem trenutku, kot so osebni računalnik svetu pokazali Američani, vendar se o nas ni govorilo.
Mimogrede, ta računalnik je uporabljal ameriške čipe (CPU), ameriški trdi disk in ameriški operacijski sistem. Toliko o tem, kolikšen del razvoja je bil v Iskri. So bili pa proizvajalec... to pa ja.
BlaY0 ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
Glede Iskre nisi nič slišal?
Na tej osnovi smo lahko razvili in izdelali prvi osebni računalnik v Evropi z imenom Partner. Na trg smo prišli v istem trenutku, kot so osebni računalnik svetu pokazali Američani, vendar se o nas ni govorilo.
Mimogrede, ta računalnik je uporabljal ameriške čipe (CPU), ameriški trdi disk in ameriški operacijski sistem. Toliko o tem, kolikšen del razvoja je bil v Iskri. So bili pa proizvajalec... to pa ja.
Ahh, čipi so danes skoraj kot repro material, kot kila šraufou. Važen je blueprint, tukaj je dodana vrednost.
Scaramouche ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
Glede Iskre nisi nič slišal?
Na tej osnovi smo lahko razvili in izdelali prvi osebni računalnik v Evropi z imenom Partner. Na trg smo prišli v istem trenutku, kot so osebni računalnik svetu pokazali Američani, vendar se o nas ni govorilo.
Mimogrede, ta računalnik je uporabljal ameriške čipe (CPU), ameriški trdi disk in ameriški operacijski sistem. Toliko o tem, kolikšen del razvoja je bil v Iskri. So bili pa proizvajalec... to pa ja.
Vem sem pregledal stvar, samo treba dodati 40 let razvoja, če nebi bilo odcepitve, ker denar bi bil v razvoju ne glede na to a drugje gre, tako kot Uk dela z Rolls Royce, tudi če so ostalo prodali, pač država fila ne glede proračun tam kjer vidijo uspeh...
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BlaY0 ::
tomlin ::
Gospa Marta Kos, odpravnik poslov v Ukrajini vas pozdravlja, pa mimogrede vse "slovenske golobe"
FireSnake ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
sparklyslo je izjavil:
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Ali še komu ni jasno kdo je boter vsemu temu?
evidentno Rusi sodelujejo z Američani, da zajebejo sebe in Evropo
Očitno res, Putler je CIA agent, ko je tako zajebal svojo državo, povečal pa prihodke glavne NATO sile.
Zdaj, če sta oba res tako ozkogleda, da ne vidita, da je dolgoletno provociranje Rusov s strani usekov v Evropi končno obrodilo sadove (gledano s strani usekov) potem vama res ni pomoči.
Bom drugače vprašal (ker enim vam je treba vse narisati): komu je v interesu vsesplošna vojna v Evropi?
Namig: še enkrat poglejta zgornje številke.
Neverjetno kako naivni ste eni. Ne vidite dlje od svojega nosu.
Ni vsesplošne vojne v Evropi, Rusija ne more niti do Kijeva.
Če že hočes slišati, meni je v interesu močan NATO, in povsem oslabljena nacistična rusija, saj živim v NATO državi.Za tebe očitno velja ravno nasprotno, morda živiš kje na Uralu...
Dobro da si povedal.
Navijaš torej za NATO, ki je pokalal na sto tisoče muslimanov.
Podpiraš in navijaš za nato, ki za ceno življenj tudi naših vojakov omogoča usekom, da dobijo nove pogodbe za nafto - s tem, da prej z bombami zravnajo državo.
Samo, da vemo.
Poglej in se nasmej: vicmaher.si
Pac-Man ::
to
https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1...
Zelenskyy says post-war Ukraine will emulate Israel, won't be 'liberal, European'
Post-war Ukraine "will definitely not be what we wanted it to be from the beginning. It is impossible. Absolutely liberal, European – it will not be like that," Zelenskyy tells Ukrainian media
Soldiers in "cinemas, supermarkets, and people with weapons" is Ukraine's future, Zelenskyy says. "I am confident that the question of security will be the issue number one for the next 10 years. I am sure of it"
Such measures, however, would not serve to undercut Ukrainian democracy, Zelenskyy says, adding that “an authoritarian state is impossible in Ukraine”
in to
https://twitter.com/Mortis_Banned/statu...
Judging by the QTs, few are familiar with the post-Soviet normie stereotypes of Israel
This weird infatuation comes from the image of a country where everyone serves in the army, carries weapons and is always ready for another enemy attack
Idk, maybe if the anti-western imperialism crowd posts more on how Ukraine should be denazified while denying the worst atrocities, more people will take up the Palestinian cause, but I doubt it
https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1...
Zelenskyy says post-war Ukraine will emulate Israel, won't be 'liberal, European'
Post-war Ukraine "will definitely not be what we wanted it to be from the beginning. It is impossible. Absolutely liberal, European – it will not be like that," Zelenskyy tells Ukrainian media
Soldiers in "cinemas, supermarkets, and people with weapons" is Ukraine's future, Zelenskyy says. "I am confident that the question of security will be the issue number one for the next 10 years. I am sure of it"
Such measures, however, would not serve to undercut Ukrainian democracy, Zelenskyy says, adding that “an authoritarian state is impossible in Ukraine”
in to
https://twitter.com/Mortis_Banned/statu...
Judging by the QTs, few are familiar with the post-Soviet normie stereotypes of Israel
This weird infatuation comes from the image of a country where everyone serves in the army, carries weapons and is always ready for another enemy attack
Idk, maybe if the anti-western imperialism crowd posts more on how Ukraine should be denazified while denying the worst atrocities, more people will take up the Palestinian cause, but I doubt it
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
SmolWhale ::
Vseakozi poudarjate, da je Putin novi Hitler, meni se zdi ravno obratno, to kar si dovoli nastavljenec Zelenski je preseglo vse meje. Napad na železniško postajo je izvedla UA, tipičen CIA false flag, laž ima kratke noge...
Zahod je defacto nacistični režim, blokirannje in cenzura vseh medijev, ki niso po godu narativi bi morala sprožit vse alarme v glavah razumnih ljudi.. bolano
Zahod je defacto nacistični režim, blokirannje in cenzura vseh medijev, ki niso po godu narativi bi morala sprožit vse alarme v glavah razumnih ljudi.. bolano
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tomlin ::
Končno so sledili Janezu Janši!
Danes, ko sem gledal Ursulo von der Leyen pri mrličih v polivinilu, sem začutil, da se je iz nje izvil krik groze, žalosti in jeze.
Vsa čast Janezu Janši, da je sprožil to potovanje EU voditeljev. Slike ne povedo tistega kar doživiš na kraju dogodka.
https://nova24tv.si/svet/tudi-tu-je-slo...
Danes, ko sem gledal Ursulo von der Leyen pri mrličih v polivinilu, sem začutil, da se je iz nje izvil krik groze, žalosti in jeze.
Vsa čast Janezu Janši, da je sprožil to potovanje EU voditeljev. Slike ne povedo tistega kar doživiš na kraju dogodka.
https://nova24tv.si/svet/tudi-tu-je-slo...
sparklyslo ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
sparklyslo je izjavil:
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Ali še komu ni jasno kdo je boter vsemu temu?
evidentno Rusi sodelujejo z Američani, da zajebejo sebe in Evropo
Očitno res, Putler je CIA agent, ko je tako zajebal svojo državo, povečal pa prihodke glavne NATO sile.
Zdaj, če sta oba res tako ozkogleda, da ne vidita, da je dolgoletno provociranje Rusov s strani usekov v Evropi končno obrodilo sadove (gledano s strani usekov) potem vama res ni pomoči.
Bom drugače vprašal (ker enim vam je treba vse narisati): komu je v interesu vsesplošna vojna v Evropi?
Namig: še enkrat poglejta zgornje številke.
Neverjetno kako naivni ste eni. Ne vidite dlje od svojega nosu.
Ni vsesplošne vojne v Evropi, Rusija ne more niti do Kijeva.
Če že hočes slišati, meni je v interesu močan NATO, in povsem oslabljena nacistična rusija, saj živim v NATO državi.Za tebe očitno velja ravno nasprotno, morda živiš kje na Uralu...
Dobro da si povedal.
Navijaš torej za NATO, ki je pokalal na sto tisoče muslimanov.
Podpiraš in navijaš za nato, ki za ceno življenj tudi naših vojakov omogoča usekom, da dobijo nove pogodbe za nafto - s tem, da prej z bombami zravnajo državo.
Samo, da vemo.
Seveda, v tem konfliktu podpiram, tako kot vsi normalni v EU in NATU, razen rusofilov, ki zaničujejo demokracijo in obožujejo Putlerja, ki je poslal ubijat in posiljevat vojake v Ukrajino.
sparklyslo je izjavil:
sparklyslo je izjavil:
sparklyslo je izjavil:
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Ali še komu ni jasno kdo je boter vsemu temu?
evidentno Rusi sodelujejo z Američani, da zajebejo sebe in Evropo
Očitno res, Putler je CIA agent, ko je tako zajebal svojo državo, povečal pa prihodke glavne NATO sile.
Zdaj, če sta oba res tako ozkogleda, da ne vidita, da je dolgoletno provociranje Rusov s strani usekov v Evropi končno obrodilo sadove (gledano s strani usekov) potem vama res ni pomoči.
Bom drugače vprašal (ker enim vam je treba vse narisati): komu je v interesu vsesplošna vojna v Evropi?
Namig: še enkrat poglejta zgornje številke.
Neverjetno kako naivni ste eni. Ne vidite dlje od svojega nosu.
Ni vsesplošne vojne v Evropi, Rusija ne more niti do Kijeva.
Če že hočes slišati, meni je v interesu močan NATO, in povsem oslabljena nacistična rusija, saj živim v NATO državi.Za tebe očitno velja ravno nasprotno, morda živiš kje na Uralu...
Dobro da si povedal.
Navijaš torej za NATO, ki je pokalal na sto tisoče muslimanov.
Podpiraš in navijaš za nato, ki za ceno življenj tudi naših vojakov omogoča usekom, da dobijo nove pogodbe za nafto - s tem, da prej z bombami zravnajo državo.
Samo, da vemo.
Seveda, v tem konfliktu podpiram, tako kot vsi normalni v EU in NATU, razen rusofilov, ki zaničujejo demokracijo in obožujejo Putlerja, ki je poslal ubijat in posiljevat vojake v Ukrajino.
Ti si verjetno eden redkih, ki razmišljajo kot Jelinčič plemeniti, in užaljeni srbi, ki jih je NATO bombardiral zaradi genocida
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TezkoDihanje ::
Navijaš torej za NATO, ki je pokalal na sto tisoče muslimanov.
Bebček, kolje se z noži... vsaj to si zapomni.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- predlagalo izbris: FireSnake ()
FireSnake ::
@spark: ne, normalni ne podpiramo klanja nata, ki ga izvajajo po svetu!
Zato govori le v svojem imenu!
Zato govori le v svojem imenu!
Poglej in se nasmej: vicmaher.si
Zgodovina sprememb…
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TezkoDihanje ::
Končno so sledili Janezu Janši!
Danes, ko sem gledal Ursulo von der Leyen pri mrličih v polivinilu, sem začutil, da se je iz nje izvil krik groze, žalosti in jeze.
Vsa čast Janezu Janši, da je sprožil to potovanje EU voditeljev. Slike ne povedo tistega kar doživiš na kraju dogodka.
https://nova24tv.si/svet/tudi-tu-je-slo...
To je bila verjetno poteza stoletja naše diplomacije.
Včasih tudi slepa kura zrno najde.
PrimoZ_ ::
Russia - 2689, of which: destroyed: 1414, damaged: 37, abandoned: 236, captured: 1002
Tanks (453, of which destroyed: 222, damaged: 6, abandoned: 41, captured: 184)
Lepo krepajo tile Rusi.
sparklyslo ::
@spark: ne, normalni ne podpiramo klanja nata, ki ga izvajajo po svetu!
Zato govori le v svojem imenu!
Ne, taki kot si ti podpirajo Putlerja in njegovo posiljevanje otrok in žensk. Potem pa se čudite, da jih Ukrajinska vojska pobije.
Pa v prvih dneh vojne ste kričali, kako naj ukrajinski vojaki s spuščenimi gatami zapustijo Ukrajino, da jo bodo Ruski posiljevalci lažje osvobodili. Kolaboranti, poznamo take
FireSnake ::
Da podpiram Putina je tvoja blodnja in izmišljotina! Čista laž!
Kje sem to napisal?
Med tem, ko ti SI zapisal, da podpiraš nato, ki ima krvave roke!
S tem, da si to neumnost želel posplošiti na vse.
Sploh pa; za svoje trditve poišči citate.
Kje sem to napisal?
Med tem, ko ti SI zapisal, da podpiraš nato, ki ima krvave roke!
S tem, da si to neumnost želel posplošiti na vse.
Sploh pa; za svoje trditve poišči citate.
Poglej in se nasmej: vicmaher.si
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: FireSnake ()
Pac-Man ::
Vseakozi poudarjate, da je Putin novi Hitler, meni se zdi ravno obratno, to kar si dovoli nastavljenec Zelenski je preseglo vse meje. Napad na železniško postajo je izvedla UA, tipičen CIA false flag, laž ima kratke noge...
Mogoče preberi ruski program za Ukrajino?
https://medium.com/@kravchenko_mm/what-...
...
The current nazified Ukraine is characterized by its formlessness and ambivalence, which allow it to disguise Nazism as the aspiration to “independence” and the “European” (Western, pro-American) path of “development” (in reality, to degradation) and claim that “there is no Nazism” in Ukraine, “only few sporadic incidents.” Indeed, there isn’t a main Nazi party, no Führer, no full-fledged racial laws (only a cutdown version in the form of repressions against the Russian language). As a result — no opposition or resistance against the regime.
However, all listed above doesn’t make Ukrainian Nazism a “light version” of the German Nazism of the first half of the 20th century. (...) That’s why there can be no compromise during denazification, as in the case of the “no to NATO, yes to EU” formula.
...
Ukronazism poses a much bigger threat to the world and Russia than the Hitler version of German Nazism.
Apparently, the name “Ukraine” cannot be kept as a title of any fully denazified state entity on the territory liberated from the Nazi regime. The people’s republics, newly created on the territories free from Nazism, must and will develop on the basis of practices of economic self-government and social security, restoration and modernization of systems of essential services for the population.
...
Denazification will inevitably include de-ukrainization — the rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component in the self-identification of the population of the historical Malorossiya and Novorossiya territories, which was started by the Soviet authorities.
...
In this case, the necessary initial steps of denazification can be defined as follows:
— The elimination of armed Nazi formations (which means any armed formations of Ukraine, including the Armed Forces of Ukraine), as well as the military, informational, and educational infrastructure that ensures their activity;
— The establishment of people’s self-government institutions and militia (defense and law enforcement) of the liberated territories to protect the population from the terror of underground Nazi groups;
— The installation of the Russian information space;
— The seizure of educational materials and the prohibition of educational programs at all levels that contain Nazi ideological guidelines;
— Mass investigations aimed to establish personal responsibility for war crimes, crimes against humanity, the spread of Nazi ideology, and support for the Nazi regime;
— Lustration, making the names of accomplices of the Nazi regime public, involving them in forced labor to restore the destroyed infrastructure as punishment for Nazi activities (from among those who have not become subject to the death penalty or imprisonment);
— The adoption at the local level, under the supervision of Russia, of primary normative acts of denazification “from below,” a ban on all types and forms of the revival of Nazi ideology;
— The establishment of memorials, commemorative signs, monuments to the victims of Ukrainian Nazism, perpetuating the memory of the heroes of the struggle against it;
— The inclusion of a set of anti-fascist and denazification norms in the constitutions of the new people’s republics;
— The establishment of permanent denazification institutions for a period of 25 years.
...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
sparklyslo ::
Da podpiram Putina je tvoja blodnja in izmišljotina! Čista laž!
Kje sem to napisal?
Med tem, ko ti SI zapisal, da podpiraš nato, ki ima krvave roke!
S tem, da si to neumnost želel posplošiti na vse.
Sploh pa; za svoje trditve poišči citate.
Seveda da podpiram NATO
, Slovenija je članica NATA, zato si ti očitno zagrenjen, tu so rojeni moji otroci, ne želim jim nacistične specialne operacije ruskih ubijalcev. Aston_11 ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
Tito se je dobrikal Rusom in Amerom, tako so eni in drugi hoteli našo prisego, mi smo pa samo rasli!Že demenca seka, kajnede.
Pac-Man ::
Scott Ritter je malo zmeden.
https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/sta...
https://twitter.com/jmaris_/status/1512...
https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/sta...
https://twitter.com/jmaris_/status/1512...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Jarno ::
@spark: ne, normalni ne podpiramo klanja nata, ki ga izvajajo po svetu!
Zato govori le v svojem imenu!
Ne rabiš pobrat vsake pravljice.
Na račun NATA gredo naslednje misije:
List of NATO operations @ Wikipedia
Nekatere na tem forumu še najbolj moti intervencija nad takratno Srbijo in na območju Kosova.
Etnična sestava Kosova 1991: 10% Srbov, 82% Albancev, sedaj je Srbov tam manj kot 25.000.
Citat iz Wikipedie:
By the end of the war, the Yugoslavs had killed 1,500[34] to 2,131 combatants,[35] while choosing to heavily target Kosovar Albanian civilians, with 8,676 killed or missing[35] and some 848,000 expelled from Kosovo.[36] The NATO bombing killed about 1,000 members of the Yugoslav security forces in addition to between 489 and 528 civilians.
Torej so Srbi pobili skoraj 9000 civilistov, pregnali pa praktično milijon. Brutalna definicija etničnega čiščenja.
Zgodovina srbskega nasilja na območju nekdanje Jugoslavije je evidentna, po podatkih je v vojnah umrlo med 130.000 in 140.000 ljudi.
Ko so dokaj pozno dobili po prstih s svojim mindsetom in načinom delovanja, pa je zdaj NATO bad in smetijo slovenske forume.
#65W!
Aston_11 ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
Povrh vsega še dementen jugonostalnik.Tak zaj sem pa vse slišal!
Tako kot so oni hoteli nas zbrisati z oble?
To smo pozabili?
TezkoDihanje ::
Aston_11 ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
Ruska vojska nima kaj iskat v Ukrajini
Nebi bila tam če Ameri desetletja nebi provocirali in vabili v NATO!
Kljub vsem opozorilom Rusije,da nočejo tam ameriških baz!
Idiotski izgovori, imbecilne blodnje in opravičila ruskega klanja.
Rusi imajo jedrsko orožje v Evropi.
Ukrajina je suverena države.
Rusi so fašisti.
Kakšen izgovor potrebuješ še za tvoje klavce, ki jih tako očitno podpiraš? Izgovarjajo se že sami in to slabo.
Vsad dan sproduciraš bolj debilne poste.
tomlin ::
Johnson presenetil z obiskom v Kijev.
Mene ni Johnsonov obisk niti najmanj presenetil.
Tisti, ki poznamo izjemno britansko vojaško podporo Ukrajini vemo, da se tovrstni obiski ne obešajo na veliki zvon. EU žal z vojaško tehnično podporo Ukrajini ni skorajda niti blizu Veliki Britaniji.
https://nova24tv.si/svet/johnson-presen...
Mene ni Johnsonov obisk niti najmanj presenetil.
Tisti, ki poznamo izjemno britansko vojaško podporo Ukrajini vemo, da se tovrstni obiski ne obešajo na veliki zvon. EU žal z vojaško tehnično podporo Ukrajini ni skorajda niti blizu Veliki Britaniji.
https://nova24tv.si/svet/johnson-presen...
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/mariamposts/status/...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1511...
As a Russian-speaking person of color who was born and raised in Ukraine, I believe that I am in a position to speak on the issue of nationalism and neo-Nazism in Ukraine. A long thread 👇
To talk about Ukrainian nationalism, we first have to establish the context of the relationship between Ukraine and Russia. These are not just countries sharing a common border. Our relationship is that of an empire and its colony.
Same as with Russia and many other countries and peoples in Eurasia, BTW. If you want a quick tour of Russian colonialism, this thread is a great start:
https://twitter.com/MaximEristavi/statu...
The Russian empire erases the culture of its colonies. The captured lands are renamed Russia, ethnically cleansed, and/or forcibly assimilated. For Ukraine, this manifested in several genocidal famines, and a centuries-long policy of elimination of the language and culture.
@EwaThompson1, a prominent scholar and advocate of the post-colonial view of Eastern European history, noted there is a “distinction between imperialistic nationalism, reaching out aggressively to subjugate and exploit potential colonies and defensive nationalism, poised to preserve traditions and identities.”
Defensive nationalism is common to peoples whose identity is in existential danger.
For example, the media often mention the ultra-right regiment of Azov. Its founding year? 2014. Date of Russia's attack on Ukraine? 2014. The current rise of the Ukrainian nationalist and far-right movements is to large extent caused by Russia's expansive aggression.
That said, although Ukraine has been oppressed and colonized throughout its history, there are many horrific examples of atrocities and mistreatment against Roma, Jews, Poles, and others, committed by Ukrainians.
In particular, like the rest of the lands of the former Russian Empire, Ukraine is firmly associated with anti-semitism in the Jewish national memory.
Ukraine is not an ideal place. Ukrainian society is not perfect, and there is racism in it. I have personally encountered racism in Ukraine.
We hear about it a lot. What we hear less about is how much Ukraine has improved in recent years. Ukrainians have elected a president whose campaign was based on unity across identities. And this president is of Jewish descent.
Jewish communities also support Ukraine in this war:
https://www.jns.org/jewish-groups-conde...
As I mentioned, I have experienced racism in Ukraine. But, having lived in the US and Europe, I can say that I was much more likely to encounter institutional racism abroad than in Ukraine.
In the last decade, I felt safe in Kyiv (before the full-scale invasion of course…)
Now, let us look more at the far-right movement. As in many European countries, there are right-wing parties in Ukraine. But unlike places such as Hungary, Italy, and others, in Ukraine, such parties have tiny support.
https://www.statista.com/chart/20094/na...
The most known Ukrainian far-right parties of "National Corps", "Freedom" and "Right Sector" together received ~2% of the vote in the 2019 Parliamentary Elections. Compare with the sobering statistics in Europe:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-3...
Thus, the actual scale of the far-right problem in Ukraine was significantly overblown by the Western media (and Russian propaganda), especially compared to incredible progress in recent years despite the war raging since 2014
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/u...
This is not to say that Ukrainian far right is not an issue. I am the last person to defend them. But, its media coverage is overblown, ignores the good things in Ukraine, and fails to put it in the context of European, and, especially relevant now, Russian far-right movements.
Russia wants the world to believe they are “de-nazifying” Ukraine, implying Russia is free of neo-Nazism. But of course, this is very far from the truth.
Russian nationalism is expansive. Quoting Professor Thompson again, “It is directed outwards and its bearers are less aware of their own chauvinism.”
An essential element of such nationalism is the idea of one's own greatness, which becomes a justification for territorial expansion beyond Russia's existing borders.
The modern Russian imperial ideology is deeply rooted in aggressive expansive nationalism.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022...
Despite this, I think Russian nationalism is weakly covered in Western media, even when relevant. For several years, Alexei Navalny has been an example of the systemic struggle against the regime in authoritarian Russia. But even Russia's opposition has close ties to nationalism.
Around the 2010s, Navalny was expelled from his party for “nationalist activities”, and campaigned to end subsidies to Chechnya and other non-Slavic regions of Russia on ethnically stereotypical grounds.
Navalny's nationalism is also evident in his stance on illegally annexed Crimea. When asked about Crimea, he replied that "Crimea is not a sandwich", and added: “Crimea will remain part of Russia and will never become part of Ukraine again in the near future."
There are more than 100 neo-Nazi groups in Russia, and the number of crimes they commit is growing each year. It is difficult to find accurate information about them, and they are not of such interest to the Western media as Ukrainian ones.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russian_neonazi...
TL;DR: Western media and Russian propaganda wildly inflate the problem of the Ukrainian far-right. The coverage fails to put the Ukrainian far-right in the larger context. Once done, it's evident that it is a tiny problem compared to Russian and even European right-wing movements
Russia used to be an authoritarian state, but now it has all the features of a fascist state. Totalitarian propaganda & censorship, popular support for violence – all of this is a portrait of modern Russia.
Is Ukraine an ideal country without racism?
No.
Does the Ukrainian far-right have political prospects?
No.
Is Russia an ideal country without racism as they imply?
No.
Does the Russian far-right have political prospects?
It already is a fascist state.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1511...
As a Russian-speaking person of color who was born and raised in Ukraine, I believe that I am in a position to speak on the issue of nationalism and neo-Nazism in Ukraine. A long thread 👇
To talk about Ukrainian nationalism, we first have to establish the context of the relationship between Ukraine and Russia. These are not just countries sharing a common border. Our relationship is that of an empire and its colony.
Same as with Russia and many other countries and peoples in Eurasia, BTW. If you want a quick tour of Russian colonialism, this thread is a great start:
https://twitter.com/MaximEristavi/statu...
The Russian empire erases the culture of its colonies. The captured lands are renamed Russia, ethnically cleansed, and/or forcibly assimilated. For Ukraine, this manifested in several genocidal famines, and a centuries-long policy of elimination of the language and culture.
@EwaThompson1, a prominent scholar and advocate of the post-colonial view of Eastern European history, noted there is a “distinction between imperialistic nationalism, reaching out aggressively to subjugate and exploit potential colonies and defensive nationalism, poised to preserve traditions and identities.”
Defensive nationalism is common to peoples whose identity is in existential danger.
For example, the media often mention the ultra-right regiment of Azov. Its founding year? 2014. Date of Russia's attack on Ukraine? 2014. The current rise of the Ukrainian nationalist and far-right movements is to large extent caused by Russia's expansive aggression.
That said, although Ukraine has been oppressed and colonized throughout its history, there are many horrific examples of atrocities and mistreatment against Roma, Jews, Poles, and others, committed by Ukrainians.
In particular, like the rest of the lands of the former Russian Empire, Ukraine is firmly associated with anti-semitism in the Jewish national memory.
Ukraine is not an ideal place. Ukrainian society is not perfect, and there is racism in it. I have personally encountered racism in Ukraine.
We hear about it a lot. What we hear less about is how much Ukraine has improved in recent years. Ukrainians have elected a president whose campaign was based on unity across identities. And this president is of Jewish descent.
Jewish communities also support Ukraine in this war:
https://www.jns.org/jewish-groups-conde...
As I mentioned, I have experienced racism in Ukraine. But, having lived in the US and Europe, I can say that I was much more likely to encounter institutional racism abroad than in Ukraine.
In the last decade, I felt safe in Kyiv (before the full-scale invasion of course…)
Now, let us look more at the far-right movement. As in many European countries, there are right-wing parties in Ukraine. But unlike places such as Hungary, Italy, and others, in Ukraine, such parties have tiny support.
https://www.statista.com/chart/20094/na...
The most known Ukrainian far-right parties of "National Corps", "Freedom" and "Right Sector" together received ~2% of the vote in the 2019 Parliamentary Elections. Compare with the sobering statistics in Europe:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-3...
Thus, the actual scale of the far-right problem in Ukraine was significantly overblown by the Western media (and Russian propaganda), especially compared to incredible progress in recent years despite the war raging since 2014
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/u...
This is not to say that Ukrainian far right is not an issue. I am the last person to defend them. But, its media coverage is overblown, ignores the good things in Ukraine, and fails to put it in the context of European, and, especially relevant now, Russian far-right movements.
Russia wants the world to believe they are “de-nazifying” Ukraine, implying Russia is free of neo-Nazism. But of course, this is very far from the truth.
Russian nationalism is expansive. Quoting Professor Thompson again, “It is directed outwards and its bearers are less aware of their own chauvinism.”
An essential element of such nationalism is the idea of one's own greatness, which becomes a justification for territorial expansion beyond Russia's existing borders.
The modern Russian imperial ideology is deeply rooted in aggressive expansive nationalism.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022...
Despite this, I think Russian nationalism is weakly covered in Western media, even when relevant. For several years, Alexei Navalny has been an example of the systemic struggle against the regime in authoritarian Russia. But even Russia's opposition has close ties to nationalism.
Around the 2010s, Navalny was expelled from his party for “nationalist activities”, and campaigned to end subsidies to Chechnya and other non-Slavic regions of Russia on ethnically stereotypical grounds.
Navalny's nationalism is also evident in his stance on illegally annexed Crimea. When asked about Crimea, he replied that "Crimea is not a sandwich", and added: “Crimea will remain part of Russia and will never become part of Ukraine again in the near future."
There are more than 100 neo-Nazi groups in Russia, and the number of crimes they commit is growing each year. It is difficult to find accurate information about them, and they are not of such interest to the Western media as Ukrainian ones.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russian_neonazi...
TL;DR: Western media and Russian propaganda wildly inflate the problem of the Ukrainian far-right. The coverage fails to put the Ukrainian far-right in the larger context. Once done, it's evident that it is a tiny problem compared to Russian and even European right-wing movements
Russia used to be an authoritarian state, but now it has all the features of a fascist state. Totalitarian propaganda & censorship, popular support for violence – all of this is a portrait of modern Russia.
Is Ukraine an ideal country without racism?
No.
Does the Ukrainian far-right have political prospects?
No.
Is Russia an ideal country without racism as they imply?
No.
Does the Russian far-right have political prospects?
It already is a fascist state.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
tetriandoch ::
Pa pustite otroke v peskovniku, da se igrajo. Itak ne vedo za kaj se gre. So še na črnobelem programu in bodo tam tudi ostali. No mogoče jim bo malo jasno jeseni, ko jih bo zeblo. Me pa skrbi, ker je čedalje več enoumja. Zato pa smo tam, kjer smo. Imamo neplačana in plačana trobila. Ostalih pa se niti ne uvarjajo z zadevo ali pa goltajo propagando brez enega kritičnega premisleka.
SmolWhale ::
tetriandoch je izjavil:
Pa pustite otroke v peskovniku, da se igrajo. Itak ne vedo za kaj se gre. So še na črnobelem programu in bodo tam tudi ostali. No mogoče jim bo malo jasno jeseni, ko jih bo zeblo. Me pa skrbi, ker je čedalje več enoumja. Zato pa smo tam, kjer smo. Imamo neplačana in plačana trobila. Ostalih pa se niti ne uvarjajo z zadevo ali pa goltajo propagando brez enega kritičnega premisleka.
Končno nekdo, ki razume. Me veseli.
+ fucking 1 to dat TezkoDihanje ::
Posting last night's NYT on Russia's insane misadventures in Chernobyl, because it's jaw-dropping. Some highlights:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/08/worl...
- Russia actually did bring their own nuclear experts from Rosatom (Russia's state nuclear company) to advise.
- They coordinated with Ukrainian scientists, but the Russian military appears to have mostly just ignored their advice.
- The most colorful example of Russia's disregard for safety is a soldier who picked up a nuclear waste container of Cobalt-60, a highly radioactive isotope only found in nuclear reactors, with his bare hands. He was emitting so much radiation shortly afterwards that it pegged a geiger counter to it's maximum.
- This appears to match the description of a soldier reported to already have died from acute radiation poisoning back in March, though they could be unrelated and NYT could not establish what became of the Cobalt-60 enthusiast.
- The Russians did indeed dig trenches in extremely dangerous areas, however the Ukrainians were primarily worried about keeping power to a water tank that cools old fuel rods. Experts estimated that a loss of power for 15 days could be sufficient to cause an explosion, showering a wide area with radioactive debris. The Russians initially kept the power running, but it required 19,000 gallons of diesel a day. Eventually, the Russians cut the power, insisting that they needed the fuel for the assault on Kyiv.
- Ukraine viewed this essentially as extortion of Belarus to figure out how to hook up to their power grid, since Belarus would receive the brunt of the radioactive debris from an explosion. A solution along these lines was apparently found.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/08/worl...
- Russia actually did bring their own nuclear experts from Rosatom (Russia's state nuclear company) to advise.
- They coordinated with Ukrainian scientists, but the Russian military appears to have mostly just ignored their advice.
- The most colorful example of Russia's disregard for safety is a soldier who picked up a nuclear waste container of Cobalt-60, a highly radioactive isotope only found in nuclear reactors, with his bare hands. He was emitting so much radiation shortly afterwards that it pegged a geiger counter to it's maximum.
- This appears to match the description of a soldier reported to already have died from acute radiation poisoning back in March, though they could be unrelated and NYT could not establish what became of the Cobalt-60 enthusiast.
- The Russians did indeed dig trenches in extremely dangerous areas, however the Ukrainians were primarily worried about keeping power to a water tank that cools old fuel rods. Experts estimated that a loss of power for 15 days could be sufficient to cause an explosion, showering a wide area with radioactive debris. The Russians initially kept the power running, but it required 19,000 gallons of diesel a day. Eventually, the Russians cut the power, insisting that they needed the fuel for the assault on Kyiv.
- Ukraine viewed this essentially as extortion of Belarus to figure out how to hook up to their power grid, since Belarus would receive the brunt of the radioactive debris from an explosion. A solution along these lines was apparently found.
SmolWhale ::
Rusi so se tam vkopali zato, ker bi drugače pokvarjeni Ukrajinci izvedli false flag in obtožili Ruse. Par sto vojakov je majhna cena za obvarovanje celotne Evrope. Rusi niso od včeraj, hint: Sirija.
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Pac-Man ::
Rusijo v ZN predstavljajo neonacisti, ki očitno v tem duhu vzgajajo potomce .
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl...
A former Russian diplomat recently posted to the United Nations in New York was a devoted neo-Nazi who plastered the city with Nazi insignia, DailyMail.com has learned.
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Kirill Kolchin, a onetime member of Russia's diplomatic support staff based at the country's permanent mission to the United Nations, arrived in New York City in the summer of 2019 with his wife Alena and their two children. They left around six months later, in February 2020.
A man who appeared to be Kolchin was photographed making a Nazi salute in an image posted to the Old School Skins account on Instagram - a Neo Nazi group which Kolchin promotes on his own page.
On July 29, 2019, a photo was posted to the OSS page showing an OSS sticker being held in front of Nazi uniforms and newspapers in Kaliningrad, the Russian enclave on the Baltic Sea, in what looked like a museum.
Kolchin, who is believed to be in his late 30s, describes himself as 'father, OSS and huckster', and pictures on his page include the Iron Cross symbol adopted by Hitler.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl...
A former Russian diplomat recently posted to the United Nations in New York was a devoted neo-Nazi who plastered the city with Nazi insignia, DailyMail.com has learned.
...
Kirill Kolchin, a onetime member of Russia's diplomatic support staff based at the country's permanent mission to the United Nations, arrived in New York City in the summer of 2019 with his wife Alena and their two children. They left around six months later, in February 2020.
A man who appeared to be Kolchin was photographed making a Nazi salute in an image posted to the Old School Skins account on Instagram - a Neo Nazi group which Kolchin promotes on his own page.
On July 29, 2019, a photo was posted to the OSS page showing an OSS sticker being held in front of Nazi uniforms and newspapers in Kaliningrad, the Russian enclave on the Baltic Sea, in what looked like a museum.
Kolchin, who is believed to be in his late 30s, describes himself as 'father, OSS and huckster', and pictures on his page include the Iron Cross symbol adopted by Hitler.
...
A man who appears to be Kolchin is pictured on the OSS page performing a Nazi salute
Kolchin's Instagram page features the Nazi insignia, the Iron Cross. He describes himself as a supporter of OSS - the Old School Skins, a neo-Nazi group which openly promotes violence
Kolchin is pictured in the OSS bulldog t-shirt in Coney Island
On August 27, 2019, an image was posted to the OSS page of a hand holding their sticker in front of a NYPD cruiser
Kolchin's son was photographed wearing an OSS mask, which also featured the Celtic Cross and the letters SS
The OSS account was deactivated, and posts from New York deleted. It has now returned
Kirill and Alena Kolchin, back in Moscow, are pictured at a Moscow bar on March 29. The caption reads: 'Here they are, our strong guys'. The men are all wearing OSS shirts
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.