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Ukrajina Part II
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fikus_ ::
"Zaradi ameriških donacij Ukrajini?"
Ti praviš donacije, druga stran nedovoljena vojaška pomoč. Podobno, ko Rusi pomagajo ruski manjšini v Ukrajini, je enkrat pomoč, z druge strani nedovoljena pomoč.
Samo vprašanje, s katere strani gledaš, po tem se opredeliš ali je (nedovoljena) pomč!
Ti praviš donacije, druga stran nedovoljena vojaška pomoč. Podobno, ko Rusi pomagajo ruski manjšini v Ukrajini, je enkrat pomoč, z druge strani nedovoljena pomoč.
Samo vprašanje, s katere strani gledaš, po tem se opredeliš ali je (nedovoljena) pomč!
Pac-Man ::
Ukrajina je polnopravna članica ZN, DNR/LNR mejita na teroristične-kriminalne tvorbe.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Ukrajina je polnopravna članica ZN, DNR/LNR mejita na teroristične-kriminalne tvorbe.
Imamo več pokazateljev, ampak ja kriva je rusija, za tvoje dojemanje....
According to the Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index, Ukraine ranked 117th out of 180 countries in 2020, ranking the second lowest in Europe, after Russia.[6]
Sreča da so od leta 2015 bolj humani, le zakaj...
On 21 May 2015 the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has passed a resolution declaring the suspension of conventions for Human Rights in the eastern Donbass region.[6][7]
Hudo je ko padeš iz cca 80 mesta na cca 140 mesto...
Ampak oni so naši
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
gozdar1 ::
Ukrajina je polnopravna članica ZN, DNR/LNR mejita na teroristične-kriminalne tvorbe.
Imamo več pokazateljev, ampak ja kriva je rusija, za tvoje dojemanje....
According to the Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index, Ukraine ranked 117th out of 180 countries in 2020, ranking the second lowest in Europe, after Russia.[6]
Sreča da so od leta 2015 bolj humani, le zakaj...
On 21 May 2015 the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has passed a resolution declaring the suspension of conventions for Human Rights in the eastern Donbass region.[6][7]
Hudo je ko padeš iz cca 80 mesta na cca 140 mesto...
Ampak oni so naši
Da države v vojni postanejo manj demokratične, nemogoče. Kaj misliš, da bi se zgodilo če nas napadejo in okupirajo nemci, šli se akcijo objemi nemca?
Mr.B ::
Ukrajina je polnopravna članica ZN, DNR/LNR mejita na teroristične-kriminalne tvorbe.
Imamo več pokazateljev, ampak ja kriva je rusija, za tvoje dojemanje....
According to the Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index, Ukraine ranked 117th out of 180 countries in 2020, ranking the second lowest in Europe, after Russia.[6]
Sreča da so od leta 2015 bolj humani, le zakaj...
On 21 May 2015 the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has passed a resolution declaring the suspension of conventions for Human Rights in the eastern Donbass region.[6][7]
Hudo je ko padeš iz cca 80 mesta na cca 140 mesto...
Ampak oni so naši
Da države v vojni postanejo manj demokratične, nemogoče. Kaj misliš, da bi se zgodilo če nas napadejo in okupirajo nemci, šli se akcijo objemi nemca?
Sej pravim, humantirani indek države je poskočil izredno pozitivno v letu 2015. Ce misliš da zaradi vojne ? morda ko so kupovali orožje, rekel bi da bo binden s kolegi vedel več.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Fritz ::
Ukrajina je polnopravna članica ZN, DNR/LNR mejita na teroristične-kriminalne tvorbe.
A to tako kot Kosovo?
Rusi niso povedali DGAF, povedali so, da ne bodo gledali križem rok, če bo Ukrajina zapustila pogajanja in šla z vojsko nad LNR/DNR, kjer ima sedaj dober del prebivalstva ruski potni list. Rusija nima nobenega interesa, da bi se ta konflikt odpiral, Kijev, katerega podpirajo ZDA, UK, Izrael in Turčija pa očitno misli, da bi lahko ponovil Azerbajdžanski recept. Malce pozabljajo, da tukaj na nasprotni strani nimajo nebogljenih in zmedenih Armencev temveč Ruse.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Mr.B ::
Tako Ukraina kot Tudi Polska živita na račun ruskega plina, zato je verjento tako Nemčiji in Rusiji dovolj teh prisklednikov..... Zato Desnjaki tako v Ukraini in Polski seveda lobirajo Proti kakršnemu plinovodu, ki bo zaobil obe državi.
Polska je , ok Rusija je čez polsko zakupila praktično 100% kapaciteto Euro Pipline, in v letu 2022 Rusija pogodbe z Polsko ne bo obnovila.
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Gazprom, as the only large user of Europol, has gained an advantage since it can bargain the cost of transit down. For the third quarter of 2020 it will be paying for a Polish transit tariff that is 2.5 times less than for Ukrainian transit.
Earlier this month, the Polish regulator approved a 16.5 per cent tariff rise for gas transit via Europol effective next year, designating the expected additional revenues for the construction of the Baltic Pipe.
Toliko o razumevanju, zakaj imajko nekateri probleme..
Natural gas is Ukraine's biggest import and the main cause of the country's structural trade deficit
Poland's PGNIG sees profit surge under changed Gazprom deal. WARSAW, March 25 (Reuters) - PGNiG's 2020 net profit surged more than 400% to 7.34 billion zlotys ($1.87 billion), Poland's dominant gas company said on Thursday, after a rebate and new pricing from supplier Gazprom
Polska je , ok Rusija je čez polsko zakupila praktično 100% kapaciteto Euro Pipline, in v letu 2022 Rusija pogodbe z Polsko ne bo obnovila.
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Gazprom, as the only large user of Europol, has gained an advantage since it can bargain the cost of transit down. For the third quarter of 2020 it will be paying for a Polish transit tariff that is 2.5 times less than for Ukrainian transit.
Earlier this month, the Polish regulator approved a 16.5 per cent tariff rise for gas transit via Europol effective next year, designating the expected additional revenues for the construction of the Baltic Pipe.
Toliko o razumevanju, zakaj imajko nekateri probleme..
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
gozdar1 ::
Ukrajina je polnopravna članica ZN, DNR/LNR mejita na teroristične-kriminalne tvorbe.
A to tako kot Kosovo?
Rusi niso povedali DGAF, povedali so, da ne bodo gledali križem rok, če bo Ukrajina zapustila pogajanja in šla z vojsko nad LNR/DNR, kjer ima sedaj dober del prebivalstva ruski potni list. Rusija nima nobenega interesa, da bi se ta konflikt odpiral, Kijev, katerega podpirajo ZDA, UK, Izrael in Turčija pa očitno misli, da bi lahko ponovil Azerbajdžanski recept. Malce pozabljajo, da tukaj na nasprotni strani nimajo nebogljenih in zmedenih Armencev temveč Ruse.
Talanje potnih listov je že preizkušena taktilka. Poleg tega rusiji trenutno stanje zamrznjenega konflikta ustreza, ker v tem stanju ukrajine ne more računati na članstvo v eu,...ker v ruskih glavah je urajina še vedno rusija. Očitno bi se morala ukrajina začeti zgledovat po ruskih zaveznikih, morda bi pa v tem primeru poželi kakšno simpatijo pri lokalnih rusofilih. Če kakšna bomba pade na bolnišnico gre tako po vsej verjetnosti za terorističnii štab.
Sicer pa pridnestrska republika je model za vse kar sledi.
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Fritz ::
Za zamrznjen konflikt so pogajanja boljša rešitev kot vojna.
Model za takšne reči pa je Kosovo. Ali pa imamo spet dvojna merila?
Model za takšne reči pa je Kosovo. Ali pa imamo spet dvojna merila?
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
gozdar1 ::
Za zamrznjen konflikt so pogajanja boljša rešitev kot vojna.
Model za takšne reči pa je Kosovo. Ali pa imamo spet dvojna merila?
Rusom ustrezajo pogajanja , ki se nikoli ne bodo končala, kaj naj torej ukrajina stori?
Sem ža napisal model je Tranznistrija, kjer imajo rusi ravno tako nepriznano enklavo znotraj druge države.
Dvojnih meril smo pa že navajeni.
Fritz ::
Imamo model vzhodne Slavonije, ki se je mirno vrnila pod okrilje Hrvaške. S pogajanji.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
gozdar1 ::
Samo, da stabilna ukrajina ne ustreza rusiji, ker postane potencial za eu, nato,..zato bo trenutno stanje zamrznjenega konflikta ostalo še desetletja.
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Fritz ::
Ukrajina bo stabilna, ko bo spoštovala pravice lastnih manjšin in bo pripravljena na kompromis z LNR/DNR.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
gozdar1 ::
Ukrajina bo stabilna, ko bo spoštovala pravice lastnih manjšin in bo pripravljena na kompromis z LNR/DNR.
Verjetno so na podoben način bile ogrožene tudi pravice ruske manjšine v gruziji in je zato prišlo do "spontanega upora". Zanimivo, da do tega pride vedno, ko država ne igra več po kremeljskih strunah in dobi čudne ideje o eu in nato članstvu.
Poldi112 ::
Samo, da stabilna ukrajina ne ustreza rusiji, ker postane potencial za eu, nato,..zato bo trenutno stanje zamrznjenega konflikta ostalo še desetletja.
Ukrajina nima absolutno nobenega potenciala za NATO. Bolj ko sanjajo NATO, prej jim bo država razpadla / zgorela / postala del ruske federacije. Če bi bili pametni, bi pozabili Krim in se z rusi zmenili za mir. A so raje izvolili klovna...
Rusi seveda želijo stabilno sosedo. Da bi bila ta NATO članica, je pa absolutni no-go. Osnove realpolitke. Vse ostalo je zgolj poceni zahodna propaganda.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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gozdar1 ::
Rusi želijo stabilno ukrajino samo v primeru, da je ta njihov satelit, kot je bila do 2014, drugače jim bolj ustreza trenutnos tanje. Koliko držav, bi pristalo na kaj takšnega, zakaj npr. srbija, ne pristane na izgubo kosova?
Predvsem je ogrožena manjšina del poceni ruske propagande.
Predvsem je ogrožena manjšina del poceni ruske propagande.
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Poldi112 ::
Rusi primarno nočejo NATO baz v Ukrajini.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Telbanc ::
Tle sta dva problema ki tud generirata to krizo.
Prvi je severni tok 2 in drugi sputnik V. Da ne bi o tem kak ameriki paše, da se rusi zapletejo z ukrajinci. In EU udari sankcije rusom, zamrzne severni tok in odpove cepivu.
Kak bo epilog. Če se Ukrajine ni nič naučila od Gruzije, bo "obrala zeleni bostan". Rusek zajaha počas pol pa gre pa zlo hitr.
Prvi je severni tok 2 in drugi sputnik V. Da ne bi o tem kak ameriki paše, da se rusi zapletejo z ukrajinci. In EU udari sankcije rusom, zamrzne severni tok in odpove cepivu.
Kak bo epilog. Če se Ukrajine ni nič naučila od Gruzije, bo "obrala zeleni bostan". Rusek zajaha počas pol pa gre pa zlo hitr.
Hvala bogu, nisem cepljen za covid-19.
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Mr.B ::
Ukrajina razpada interno, zaradi lastne korupcije....
Polska je, bolj rimokataoliška od Hrvaske.
Obe državi gresta ......
KRim je ruski, live with it.
Ukrajina če zgubi Ruski plin je še bolj v Pizdi. Polska se seseda sama vase, ruski plin je tako kot Ukrajina, moji procenti...
Ko Polska zgubi Ruski plin, bo do Polski Desnjaki začepili o razapdanju EU, ker je Polska že sedaj globoko odvisna od EU.
Polska je, bolj rimokataoliška od Hrvaske.
Obe državi gresta ......
KRim je ruski, live with it.
Ukrajina če zgubi Ruski plin je še bolj v Pizdi. Polska se seseda sama vase, ruski plin je tako kot Ukrajina, moji procenti...
Ko Polska zgubi Ruski plin, bo do Polski Desnjaki začepili o razapdanju EU, ker je Polska že sedaj globoko odvisna od EU.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
Rusija je po indeksu korupcije niže od ukrajine.
No dej no provociraj... A misliü da je trumpi za BS nmakladal s svojim populizmom, ali, öak, aja sej vemo..
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
gozdar1 ::
Rusija je po indeksu korupcije niže od ukrajine.
No dej no provociraj... A misliü da je trumpi za BS nmakladal s svojim populizmom, ali, öak, aja sej vemo..
Transparency int.
Ukraina 117
Rusija 129
Sama zahodna propaganda.
Mr.B ::
Rusija je po indeksu korupcije niže od ukrajine.
No dej no provociraj... A misliü da je trumpi za BS nmakladal s svojim populizmom, ali, öak, aja sej vemo..
Transparency int.
Ukraina 117
Rusija 129
Sama zahodna propaganda.
Bralno razumevanje ti ravno ni neka vrlina...
According to the Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index, Ukraine ranked 117th out of 180 countries in 2020, ranking the second lowest in Europe, after Russia.[6]
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
gozdar1 ::
Rusija je po indeksu korupcije niže od ukrajine.
No dej no provociraj... A misliü da je trumpi za BS nmakladal s svojim populizmom, ali, öak, aja sej vemo..
Transparency int.
Ukraina 117
Rusija 129
Sama zahodna propaganda.
Bralno razumevanje ti ravno ni neka vrlina...
According to the Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index, Ukraine ranked 117th out of 180 countries in 2020, ranking the second lowest in Europe, after Russia.[6]
Bolj je težava , da bereš stvari selektivno 117 mesto je še vedno bolje kot 129.
"Russia remains the only country that is behind Ukraine among its neighbors."
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Mr.B ::
Rusija je po indeksu korupcije niže od ukrajine.
No dej no provociraj... A misliü da je trumpi za BS nmakladal s svojim populizmom, ali, öak, aja sej vemo..
Transparency int.
Ukraina 117
Rusija 129
Sama zahodna propaganda.
Bralno razumevanje ti ravno ni neka vrlina...
According to the Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index, Ukraine ranked 117th out of 180 countries in 2020, ranking the second lowest in Europe, after Russia.[6]
Bolj je težava , da bereš stvari selektivno 117 mesto je še vedno bolje kot 129.
"Russia remains the only country that is behind Ukraine among its neighbors."
Problem tvojega razumnega dosega je na nivoju kavbojcev in indijancev. ce bi bral link in razumel kaj je v viru povedano se nebi izgovarjal katera stevilka je vecja.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Sreča da so od leta 2015 bolj humani, le zakaj...
On 21 May 2015 the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has passed a resolution declaring the suspension of conventions for Human Rights in the eastern Donbass region.[6][7]
Je zadevo podpisal Porošenko ali Zelenski? Kot sem včeraj napisal na MMC - v Ukrajini, Rusiji in ZDA imajo predsedniški sistem. Brez njegovega avtograma imajo v parlamentu sprejeti zakoni status WC papirja.
Rusija nima nobenega interesa, da bi se ta konflikt odpiral
Milijontič - IMO Rusija želi vodo z Dnepra na Krimu. Odprt konflikt jim da casus belli. Živi bili in videli - če bo končen rezultat odblokiran severnokrimski kanal bo vse jasno.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Pac-Man ()
Mr.B ::
Sreča da so od leta 2015 bolj humani, le zakaj...
On 21 May 2015 the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has passed a resolution declaring the suspension of conventions for Human Rights in the eastern Donbass region.[6][7]
Je zadevo podpisal Porošenko ali Zelenski? Kot sem včeraj napisal na MMC - v Ukrajini, Rusiji in ZDA imajo predsedniški sistem. Brez njegovega avtograma imajo v parlamentu sprejeti zakoni status WC papirja.
Rusija nima nobenega interesa, da bi se ta konflikt odpiral
Milijontič - IMO Rusija želi vodo z Dnepra na Krimu. Odprt konflikt jim da casus belli. Živi bili in videli - če bo končen rezultat odblokiran severnokrimski kanal bo vse jasno.
To je samo posledica..
V nemčiji "bo verjetno" v letu 2022, plinske elektrarne presegle generirano energijo premogovnih elektraren..
Kje imajo problem.. no zeleno energijo.
Plinovod iz rusije, kjer svoje "DANES" diktirata Polska in Ukrajina, je na 100% kapaciteti..
Tu pride v Igro Aaerika, dejmo grdi Rusi, pa še plin bomo pordali...
Dobr pride koruptirani Ukrajini, kjer se da dobro služiti za nič dela,
Dobro pride desni Krščanski Polski, Ki bajno služi na račun plina in izisljevanja Nemečije.
Situacija na terenu, NEmčija se ne more razvijati Zeleno in moras preplačevati plin...
Ukrajina bo ko bo plin tekel po drugih ceveh, postala naslednja vukojebina
Polska, no že eno leto stoji, izgradnja dveh Nukleranih blokov, pa je vse urejeno za izgradnjo, ker vejo da bo Nemčija prešaltala na Plin... Pa tudi konkretno bo morala zategniti pas.
Amerika bo lahko prodajala plin, evropi razen Nmčiji, in trdila glejte sej Nemci ne-odkupujejo našega plina, ker bo pač nemčija vzela plin iz drugih balkanskih poti, ker so se sprostili, ko so druge EU države začele kupovati Ameriški plin,...
Da da komentirate pa kot da je zgodba kavbojci in indijanci. Ampak ja od Twiter, FB izobraženih komentatorjev drugega kot označb amerogil, Rusofil, itak...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Bugger.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1382...
Ukrainian Minister of Defense Andriy Taran estimated that the number of Russian troops located near Ukraine's borders will reach 110k with 56 battalion tactical groups. Taran said that Russia had 42k servicemen in Crimea that have been integrated into joint strike forces with a number of kinetic systems for offensive military operations, specifically an operation from Crimea to secure the water supply to the peninsula.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1382...
Ukrainian Minister of Defense Andriy Taran estimated that the number of Russian troops located near Ukraine's borders will reach 110k with 56 battalion tactical groups. Taran said that Russia had 42k servicemen in Crimea that have been integrated into joint strike forces with a number of kinetic systems for offensive military operations, specifically an operation from Crimea to secure the water supply to the peninsula.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Živi bili pa videli.
Bugger 2
https://twitter.com/KaptainLOMA/status/...
The Ministry of Defense now announces that 15 vessels of the #Caspian Flotilla are heading to the Black Sea, a deviation of the previous announcement that only ten vessels were to be sent.
These include three artillery ships and eight landing craft.
Priprave na mini Dan D v Azovskem morju?
Bugger 3
https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/138205...
Preparing an offensive against Ukraine, Russia has moved Iskander missiles to Voronezh.
Assuming a range of 500km, with these missiles the Russians can strike all of the invasion battlefront in Luhansk oblast and most of the front in Donetsk oblast.
Pravijo da na parado.
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/count...
Calculations of the Iskander operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK) of the combined arms army of the Western Military District (ZVO) arrived from Kursk to the city of military glory Voronezh to prepare for the parade to commemorate the 76th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War.
Bugger 2
https://twitter.com/KaptainLOMA/status/...
The Ministry of Defense now announces that 15 vessels of the #Caspian Flotilla are heading to the Black Sea, a deviation of the previous announcement that only ten vessels were to be sent.
These include three artillery ships and eight landing craft.
Priprave na mini Dan D v Azovskem morju?
Bugger 3
https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/138205...
Preparing an offensive against Ukraine, Russia has moved Iskander missiles to Voronezh.
Assuming a range of 500km, with these missiles the Russians can strike all of the invasion battlefront in Luhansk oblast and most of the front in Donetsk oblast.
Pravijo da na parado.
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/count...
Calculations of the Iskander operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK) of the combined arms army of the Western Military District (ZVO) arrived from Kursk to the city of military glory Voronezh to prepare for the parade to commemorate the 76th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Pac-Man ()
Mr.B ::
Bugger.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1382...
Ukrainian Minister of Defense Andriy Taran estimated that the number of Russian troops located near Ukraine's borders will reach 110k with 56 battalion tactical groups. Taran said that Russia had 42k servicemen in Crimea that have been integrated into joint strike forces with a number of kinetic systems for offensive military operations, specifically an operation from Crimea to secure the water supply to the peninsula.
Rusi bodo naredili invazijo na ozemlje, ki si ga "zasedajo". Rekel bi da so americani hoteli z ukrajinci malo zakomplicirati in hoteli zasesti anexirana ozemlja, potem jim je pa rusija pokazala dildota, sedaj pa so obrnili plosco, da hocejo rusi narediti invazijo na ukrajino in iscejo "provokacihe". Imas se kaksno zgodbo?
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
gozdar1 ::
Bugger.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1382...
Ukrainian Minister of Defense Andriy Taran estimated that the number of Russian troops located near Ukraine's borders will reach 110k with 56 battalion tactical groups. Taran said that Russia had 42k servicemen in Crimea that have been integrated into joint strike forces with a number of kinetic systems for offensive military operations, specifically an operation from Crimea to secure the water supply to the peninsula.
Rusi bodo naredili invazijo na ozemlje, ki si ga "zasedajo". Rekel bi da so americani hoteli z ukrajinci malo zakomplicirati in hoteli zasesti anexirana ozemlja, potem jim je pa rusija pokazala dildota, sedaj pa so obrnili plosco, da hocejo rusi narediti invazijo na ukrajino in iscejo "provokacihe". Imas se kaksno zgodbo?
Kakor obrneš je tu rusija "bad guy".
Mr.B ::
Če že naj vsaj zasluži obljubljene mu kopejke.
Ne skrbi, poöakaj Talibanci se pripravljajo na invazijo na Afgansitan, sedja ko bodo Američani zapustili Afganistan na 11. september ob 9:00. To bo šele zgodba, zaklaj se ne umikajo.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Rusi bodo naredili invazijo na ozemlje, ki si ga "zasedajo".
Za počasne:
Rusija si lasti Krim. Na Krimu imajo veliko pomanjkanje vode. Pred okupacijo je Krim dobival vodo iz Dnepra, po severno-krimskem kanalu. Kakih 70 km kanala od Dnepra do de facto meje teče po ukrajinskem ozemlju. Jaz in ukrajinski obrambni minister trdiva, da si Rusija želi okupirat še ta del Ukrajine.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Mr.B ::
Rusi bodo naredili invazijo na ozemlje, ki si ga "zasedajo".
Za počasne:
Rusija si lasti Krim. Na Krimu imajo veliko pomanjkanje vode. Pred okupacijo je Krim dobival vodo iz Dnepra, po severno-krimskem kanalu. Kakih 70 km kanala od Dnepra do de facto meje teče po ukrajinskem ozemlju. Jaz in ukrajinski obrambni minister trdiva, da si Rusija želi okupirat še ta del Ukrajine.
V redu sej vemo da se ti ni izslo, Pac Vojaske vaje ukrajisnek vojske so bile slabo planirane, sedaj pa jokajo ko isto delajo Rusi,
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Fritz ::
Milijontič - IMO Rusija želi vodo z Dnepra na Krimu. Odprt konflikt jim da casus belli. Živi bili in videli - če bo končen rezultat odblokiran severnokrimski kanal bo vse jasno.
Tvoja logika ima eno hudo pomanjkljivost in sicer to, da so Ruski premiki vojske odgovor na ukrajinske premike vojske in njihova politična sporočila, ki so se zgodila pred tem.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
sbawe64 ::
Čakam da Paco omeni Ukr zakon 117/2021
https://www.president.gov.ua/documents/...
24.3 2021 by Zelensky
Kjer piše, da bo Ukr osvobodila Krim in Sevastopol.
https://www.president.gov.ua/documents/...
24.3 2021 by Zelensky
Kjer piše, da bo Ukr osvobodila Krim in Sevastopol.
2020 is new 1984
Corona World order
Corona World order
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gozdar1 ::
Zaključek, ukrajina je agresor "bugari ušli u sofiju", očitno bo potrebna osvobotitev po vzgledu češkoslovaške in madžarske. Rusi so pravi mojstri streljanja v koleno in delanja sovražnikov iz sosedov, krivi so jim pa vedno drugi.
Lonsarg ::
Jaz pa v bistvu ne štekam čisto NATA, a niso bile mokre sanje imeti vojaško prisotnost čim bližje Rusiji. Zdaj imajo priliko te sanje uresničit brez najmanjše nevarnosti, da bi zaradi tega kaj Rusi naredili. Pa še v zameno lahko izpogajajo marsikaj ker bi Ukrajina lastne matere prodala, samo da dobi NATO vojsko v svojo državo.
Fritz ::
Sicer pa:
CIA director William Burns told the US senate that russia had enough armed forces on its border with ukraine to launch a military invasion.
https://twitter.com/colonelhomsi/status...
Jah, nazadnje, ko so Rusi hoteli postaviti rakete ob mejah ZDA (Kuba) so ZDA skoraj začele 3. sv. vojno.
CIA director William Burns told the US senate that russia had enough armed forces on its border with ukraine to launch a military invasion.
https://twitter.com/colonelhomsi/status...
Jaz pa v bistvu ne štekam čisto NATA, a niso bile mokre sanje imeti vojaško prisotnost čim bližje Rusiji. Zdaj imajo priliko te sanje uresničit brez najmanjše nevarnosti, da bi zaradi tega kaj Rusi naredili. Pa še v zameno lahko izpogajajo marsikaj ker bi Ukrajina lastne matere prodala, samo da dobi NATO vojsko v svojo državo.
Jah, nazadnje, ko so Rusi hoteli postaviti rakete ob mejah ZDA (Kuba) so ZDA skoraj začele 3. sv. vojno.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
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sbawe64 ::
V 90tih sta imela Reagan Gorbačov dogovor, Sovjeti se spokajo iz DDR&držav Varšavskega pakta, Nato se NE širi na vzhod.
2020 is new 1984
Corona World order
Corona World order
Fritz ::
Zaključek, ukrajina je agresor "bugari ušli u sofiju", očitno bo potrebna osvobotitev po vzgledu češkoslovaške in madžarske. Rusi so pravi mojstri streljanja v koleno in delanja sovražnikov iz sosedov, krivi so jim pa vedno drugi.
Za tiste, ki malce počasneje berete - v Ukrajini velja premirje skladno z dogovorom iz Minska, pri katerem sodelujejo tudi EU in Rusija. Če Ukrajina ravna v nasprotju z dogovorjenim, je za to kriva Rusija?
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Čakam da Paco omeni Ukr zakon 117/2021
https://www.president.gov.ua/documents/...
24.3 2021 by Zelensky
Kjer piše, da bo Ukr osvobodila Krim in Sevastopol.
Si ga prebral ali si o njem slišal iz ruskih virov?
Krim mislijo osvobodit s tem da sebe spravijo v red. Koliko je to realno je druga.
Iz zakona, strojno prevedeno:
Priority areas
23. Prerequisites for the reintegration of the temporarily occupied territory are:
development of democratic institutions, mechanisms to ensure the protection of human and civil rights, freedoms;
development of Ukraine's economy, which should ensure the gradual approximation of the quality of life in Ukraine to European standards;
increasing the efficiency of public administration, strengthening the state's defense capabilities, improving the capabilities and development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, other military formations, law enforcement agencies formed in accordance with the laws of Ukraine, development of the defense-industrial complex;
increasing the level of national resilience, preventing potential conflicts;
solving the problems of internally displaced persons who suffered as a result of the armed aggression of the Russian Federation, the armed conflict, the temporary occupation of the territory of Ukraine;
constant support and development of contacts of social-humanitarian, cultural, informational character with citizens of Ukraine living in the temporarily occupied territory;
promoting the consolidation of Ukrainian society, the formation of patriotic, state worldview, preservation and development of spiritual and moral values of the Ukrainian people;
consolidation of international efforts to facilitate the process of deoccupation of the temporarily occupied territory, resolution of issues related to the temporary occupation of part of the territory of Ukraine by the Russian Federation, in particular mediation in negotiations in various international formats, monitoring, assistance to Ukraine in military-technical, economic, humanitarian and other spheres;
ensuring the realization by citizens of Ukraine living in the temporarily occupied territory of the right to education guaranteed by the Constitution of Ukraine.
V 90tih sta imela Reagan Gorbačov dogovor, Sovjeti se spokajo iz DDR&držav Varšavskega pakta, Nato se NE širi na vzhod.
Kaj se je že zgodilo s Sovjeti in varšavskim paktom?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Pac-Man ()
Mr.B ::
Čakam da Paco omeni Ukr zakon 117/2021
https://www.president.gov.ua/documents/...
24.3 2021 by Zelensky
Kjer piše, da bo Ukr osvobodila Krim in Sevastopol.
Si ga prebral ali si o njem slišal iz ruskih virov?
Krim mislijo osvobodit s tem da sebe spravijo v red. Koliko je to realno je druga.
Iz zakona, strojno prevedeno:
Priority areas
23. Prerequisites for the reintegration of the temporarily occupied territory are:
development of democratic institutions, mechanisms to ensure the protection of human and civil rights, freedoms;
development of Ukraine's economy, which should ensure the gradual approximation of the quality of life in Ukraine to European standards;
increasing the efficiency of public administration, strengthening the state's defense capabilities, improving the capabilities and development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, other military formations, law enforcement agencies formed in accordance with the laws of Ukraine, development of the defense-industrial complex;
increasing the level of national resilience, preventing potential conflicts;
solving the problems of internally displaced persons who suffered as a result of the armed aggression of the Russian Federation, the armed conflict, the temporary occupation of the territory of Ukraine;
constant support and development of contacts of social-humanitarian, cultural, informational character with citizens of Ukraine living in the temporarily occupied territory;
promoting the consolidation of Ukrainian society, the formation of patriotic, state worldview, preservation and development of spiritual and moral values of the Ukrainian people;
consolidation of international efforts to facilitate the process of deoccupation of the temporarily occupied territory, resolution of issues related to the temporary occupation of part of the territory of Ukraine by the Russian Federation, in particular mediation in negotiations in various international formats, monitoring, assistance to Ukraine in military-technical, economic, humanitarian and other spheres;
ensuring the realization by citizens of Ukraine living in the temporarily occupied territory of the right to education guaranteed by the Constitution of Ukraine.
V 90tih sta imela Reagan Gorbačov dogovor, Sovjeti se spokajo iz DDR&držav Varšavskega pakta, Nato se NE širi na vzhod.
Kaj se je že zgodilo s Sovjeti in varšavskim paktom?
Jaz sem tudi bral, da Deziformacije üirijo na FB-ju in ostalimi temi mediji, no sej veü, samo Rusi, kitajci in kako so v Yugoslviji rekli tem elementom.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Čepiga in Miškin, ki ju poznamo iz primera Skripal, sta v dveh eksplozijah na Češkem oktobra in decembra 2014 vrgla v zrak več kot 60 ton streliva, ki je imelo za končno destinacijo Ukrajino. V prvi eksploziji sta umrla 2 civilista. Posrednik pri poslu je bil bolgarski trgovec z orožjem, ki so ga prav tako neuspešno zastrupili, zdi se mi da celo dvakrat. Čehi so zdaj izgnali 18 ruskih "diplomatov".
Nit: https://twitter.com/_JakubJanda/status/...
Tiralica: https://www.policie.cz/clanek/zadost-o-...
češki wiki: https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%BDbu...
Precej Izraelsko.
Grozev, nit: https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
(...) Just confirmed that indeed, on that day - 16 October 2014 - Gebrev was procuring ammunition that was supposed to be loaded at the Vrbětic ammo depot. This provides the final answer why GRU nearly killed Gebrev, his son, and his production director in April 2015.
What Czech police hasn't discovered, it appears, is that not only these two "poster boys" of the GRU - but several more members of unit 21955 - including their whole management team - came to Czechia at that same time. We will publish an investigation asap.
One important aspect: both Mishkin and Chepiga were bestowed "Hero of Russia" awards by Putin in late 2014/early 2015. We always assumed it was over their involvement in Crimea. *This* successful operation in Czhechia, however, makes it a much more likely explanation.
Nit: https://twitter.com/_JakubJanda/status/...
Tiralica: https://www.policie.cz/clanek/zadost-o-...
češki wiki: https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%BDbu...
Precej Izraelsko.
Grozev, nit: https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
(...) Just confirmed that indeed, on that day - 16 October 2014 - Gebrev was procuring ammunition that was supposed to be loaded at the Vrbětic ammo depot. This provides the final answer why GRU nearly killed Gebrev, his son, and his production director in April 2015.
What Czech police hasn't discovered, it appears, is that not only these two "poster boys" of the GRU - but several more members of unit 21955 - including their whole management team - came to Czechia at that same time. We will publish an investigation asap.
One important aspect: both Mishkin and Chepiga were bestowed "Hero of Russia" awards by Putin in late 2014/early 2015. We always assumed it was over their involvement in Crimea. *This* successful operation in Czhechia, however, makes it a much more likely explanation.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Pac-Man ()
Pac-Man ::
Potna lista, ki sta jih uporabila za dostop do skladišča streliva, Tadžikistan in Moldavija:
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Fritz ::
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Telbanc ::
Ne vem zakaj ne bi rusi vzeli donbas, pa še kej zraven. Mi ni jasno.
Sej je Nato isto naredu na Kosovu. Pač etnično so razdelili Srbijo. In si lepo postavli gor bazo Bondstil...In zaj vpijejo bog ne daj razdeliti Bosno.
In zaj se ta EU nekej usaja. Ko bo itak sam gledala ko bojo kitajčki vzeli Tajvan.
Smo takrat lepo napisali da bo pršu čas poračuna.
Sej je Nato isto naredu na Kosovu. Pač etnično so razdelili Srbijo. In si lepo postavli gor bazo Bondstil...In zaj vpijejo bog ne daj razdeliti Bosno.
In zaj se ta EU nekej usaja. Ko bo itak sam gledala ko bojo kitajčki vzeli Tajvan.
Smo takrat lepo napisali da bo pršu čas poračuna.
Hvala bogu, nisem cepljen za covid-19.
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