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Izogibanje vsega, kar je iz Rusije
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dronyx ::
Mar ni bila? So navlekli dovolj enot/orožja za zavzetje Kyev-a?
Vse upe so rusi polagali na kadirovce, da bodo uspeli odstraniti ukrajinsko vodstvo na začetku invazije. Ampak tiktok vojska je raje objavljala promocijske video posnetke, tako da iz tega ni bilo nič. Tule izpoved pripadnika ruskih VDV kako je izgledalo zavzetje letališča v okolici Kijeva.
gozdar1 ::
Nihče ne pravi, da so rusi nezmotljivi.
Dejstvo pa ostaja, da imaš v vsaki vojni diverzije in ta je bila relativno uspešna.
Si pa dobrodošel, da odgovoriš na trivialno vprašanje - so imeli rusi dovolj vojske za zaseg Kyev-a? Ter kako to, da je praktično nedotaknjen?
Misliš, da ne bi mogli raketirati političnega vrha, ki se prosto sprehaja okoli? Ali enostavno niso imeli te želje, ker potrebujejo komika, da podpiše predajo.
Odvisno, če se ukrajinci ne bi branili še preveč. Težava nastane ko začneš verjet v lastno propagando.
Najprej moraš vedet , kje ta vrh je v trenutku ko lahko tja dostaviš raketo. Predajo lahko podpiše tudi nastavljena lutka.
dronyx ::
EU Plans to Block Russians From Buying European Real Estate (vir: bloomberg)
Siloviki ne bodo preveč navdušeni.
The European Commission's proposal would halt property deals with Russian citizens, residents and entities -- prohibiting the sale or transfer, directly or indirectly, of "ownership rights in immovable property located within the territory of the Union or units in collective investment undertakings providing exposure to such immovable property," according to the legal text seen by Bloomberg News.
Siloviki ne bodo preveč navdušeni.
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Unchancy ::
EU Plans to Block Russians From Buying European Real Estate (vir: bloomberg)
The European Commission's proposal would halt property deals with Russian citizens, residents and entities -- prohibiting the sale or transfer, directly or indirectly, of "ownership rights in immovable property located within the territory of the Union or units in collective investment undertakings providing exposure to such immovable property," according to the legal text seen by Bloomberg News.
Siloviki ne bodo preveč navdušeni.
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PrimoZ_ ::
Nihče ne pravi, da so rusi nezmotljivi.
Dejstvo pa ostaja, da imaš v vsaki vojni diverzije in ta je bila relativno uspešna.
Si pa dobrodošel, da odgovoriš na trivialno vprašanje - so imeli rusi dovolj vojske za zaseg Kyev-a? Ter kako to, da je praktično nedotaknjen?
Misliš, da ne bi mogli raketirati političnega vrha, ki se prosto sprehaja okoli? Ali enostavno niso imeli te želje, ker potrebujejo komika, da podpiše predajo.
Jaz mislim, da niso bili sposobni.
Poskušali so tudi s padalci, zavzeli so letališče in ga kasneje izgubili skupaj z elitnimi enotami.
Res uspešno.
Pač zajebali so. Konkretno.
In sedaj tiščijo naprej z glavo, da si bodo polomili zobe.
We will rave on your's and Putin's grave ;)
LightBit ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
3 dnevi?
Če ne znaš Rusko si strojno prevedi. In poglej datum.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051...
Sem prevedel strojno in nič ne piše o treh dnevih.
Gre za članek, ki je bil napisan vnaprej, pa potem pomotoma objavljen, ker Rusom že takrat niti približno ni šlo vse po načrtih. Proti Kievu so poslali svoje elitne sile (VDV, Spetznas in prvo mehanizirano divizijo, skupaj 50 tisoč folka) in so bili praktično vse povsod zaustavljeni.
Ta članek je bil v medijih non stop kakšen teden. Me prav nič ne preseneča, da ne veš tega, ker tako ali tako blejaš non stop ene in isti bedarije, ne glede kaj se dogaja v Ukrajini.
Si dobrodošel, da citiraš relevantno rusko osebo, ki pravi, da bodo zmagali v 3 dneh.
Ker jaz nisem slišal nikogar, medtem ko se ovce neprestano derete, kako so rusi nesposobni, ker ne dosegajo nekih namišljenih ciljev, ki vam jih servira ministrstvo resnice.
Verjetno ni ne relavantna ne ruska oseba, ampak baje manj kot 3 dni:
PrimoZ_ ::
Russia - 3386, of which: destroyed: 1834, damaged: 60, abandoned: 266, captured: 1226
Tanks (602, of which destroyed: 314, damaged: 17, abandoned: 49, captured: 222)
Tank gori, Rus beži
Tanks (602, of which destroyed: 314, damaged: 17, abandoned: 49, captured: 222)
Tank gori, Rus beži
gozdar1 ::
Trije dnevo, do kijeva in teden do pariza. Ne mi sedaj premalo vojske in podobno.
:D
Putin dies and goes to hell, but after a while, he is given a day off for good behavior.
So he goes to Moscow, enters a bar, orders a drink, and asks the bartender:
-Is Crimea ours?
-Yes, it is.
-And the Donbas?
-Also ours.
-And Kyiv?
-We got that too.
Satisfied, Putin drinks, and asks:
-Thanks, how much do I owe you?
-5 euros.
:D
Putin dies and goes to hell, but after a while, he is given a day off for good behavior.
So he goes to Moscow, enters a bar, orders a drink, and asks the bartender:
-Is Crimea ours?
-Yes, it is.
-And the Donbas?
-Also ours.
-And Kyiv?
-We got that too.
Satisfied, Putin drinks, and asks:
-Thanks, how much do I owe you?
-5 euros.
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Poldi112 ::
Poldi pravi, da so biolabi samo poceni propaganda.
Tile rusofili se še med sabo ne morejo zmenit kako bodo lagali
Mar niso? Ne moreš vedeti, kaj je z njimi, več kot očitno se pa o njih piše za preusmerjanje pozornosti. Podobno kot ostalo, o čemer beremo - MSM je pač namenjen proženju emocionalnega odziva, ne predstavitvi dejstev za potrebe racionale debate.
Me pa ne preseneča, da te čudi, da ne verjamemo v enoumje, v katerega ste prežvekovalci MSM tako zaljubljeni.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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D3m ::
Moldova signed a law allowing foreign security forces to protect the state border of Moldova
"Foreign officers will protect the state border of the Republic of Moldova with the possibility of using service weapons, special means of protection, as well as physical force."
The bill was signed by Moldovan Prime Minister Natalia Gavrilitsa, Minister of Internal Affairs and Justice.
"According to the provisions of the Agreement" joint operation "means an action coordinated or organized by FRONTEX to support the national authority of the Republic of Moldova responsible for border control, which aims to address challenges such as illegal immigration, current or future threats at Moldova's borders or cross-border crime, or aimed at providing increased technical and operational assistance for the control of those borders. At the same time, there was a need to adapt the national regulatory framework to allow the use by FRONTEX representatives of service weapons, special equipment, and physical force. In addition, the necessary conditions for the legalization of their stay during the joint operation shall be created ",
This comes after an accord was signed betweeen FRONTEXT (EU Border protection) and Moldova's State Border Guards, last March.
https://democracy.md/ofiteri-straini-vo...
Pestro bo. :D
"Foreign officers will protect the state border of the Republic of Moldova with the possibility of using service weapons, special means of protection, as well as physical force."
The bill was signed by Moldovan Prime Minister Natalia Gavrilitsa, Minister of Internal Affairs and Justice.
"According to the provisions of the Agreement" joint operation "means an action coordinated or organized by FRONTEX to support the national authority of the Republic of Moldova responsible for border control, which aims to address challenges such as illegal immigration, current or future threats at Moldova's borders or cross-border crime, or aimed at providing increased technical and operational assistance for the control of those borders. At the same time, there was a need to adapt the national regulatory framework to allow the use by FRONTEX representatives of service weapons, special equipment, and physical force. In addition, the necessary conditions for the legalization of their stay during the joint operation shall be created ",
This comes after an accord was signed betweeen FRONTEXT (EU Border protection) and Moldova's State Border Guards, last March.
https://democracy.md/ofiteri-straini-vo...
Pestro bo. :D
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Pac-Man ::
povzetek članka
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Big report from @wwwproektmedia about catastrophically under-equipped Russian soldiers in Ukraine, propagandists’ clumsy scramble to sustain public support for the war, & the Kremlin’s own bumbling.
As is the case with such reports, this one is based in large part on anonymous sources and hearsay, so factor that into your reading, as you will.
Proekt says the decision to invade was such a surprise to nearly everyone in the govt that some even criticized the war at first, but this public dissent (from some nominal opposition politicians) was soon nipped in the bud.
Putin apparently really didn’t realize that conscripts were being sent into battle en masse, says Proekt. (Though the report suggests that the military ultimately did manage to remove them from combat, the Navy achieving this last, hence the draftees among the Moskva sailors.)
Putin has demonstrated extremely little commitment to the negotiations with Kyiv, often refusing for long stretches to speak directly to his chief negotiator, Vladimir Medinsky, who’s been left in the dark & dragged through the mud for saying what he’s told to say.
For example, Medinsky was ordered to announce Russia’s troop withdrawal from around Kyiv in late March, presenting it as a response to compromise by Ukraine. In fact, it was just to reinforce the Donbas theater. Medinsky’s announcement threw a wrench in the propaganda agenda.
Kremlin propaganda has been a rollercoaster during the war, of course. Anchors and pundits have sustained public support by reporting nonstop battlefield triumphs, inventing whole feats that never happened. “De-Nazification” has failed to resonate and fallen from use.
The state media has apparently handled squabbling among officials (eg, Medinsky, Peskov vs. Kadyrov, Turchak) by delaying coverage until the marching orders are clear. Supposedly, quoting Chechnya’s dictator now requires a formal okay from executives.
Anyway, quite an article. Here it is again:
https://dpiy1t0nlwafj.cloudfront.net/na...
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Big report from @wwwproektmedia about catastrophically under-equipped Russian soldiers in Ukraine, propagandists’ clumsy scramble to sustain public support for the war, & the Kremlin’s own bumbling.
As is the case with such reports, this one is based in large part on anonymous sources and hearsay, so factor that into your reading, as you will.
Proekt says the decision to invade was such a surprise to nearly everyone in the govt that some even criticized the war at first, but this public dissent (from some nominal opposition politicians) was soon nipped in the bud.
Putin apparently really didn’t realize that conscripts were being sent into battle en masse, says Proekt. (Though the report suggests that the military ultimately did manage to remove them from combat, the Navy achieving this last, hence the draftees among the Moskva sailors.)
Putin has demonstrated extremely little commitment to the negotiations with Kyiv, often refusing for long stretches to speak directly to his chief negotiator, Vladimir Medinsky, who’s been left in the dark & dragged through the mud for saying what he’s told to say.
For example, Medinsky was ordered to announce Russia’s troop withdrawal from around Kyiv in late March, presenting it as a response to compromise by Ukraine. In fact, it was just to reinforce the Donbas theater. Medinsky’s announcement threw a wrench in the propaganda agenda.
Kremlin propaganda has been a rollercoaster during the war, of course. Anchors and pundits have sustained public support by reporting nonstop battlefield triumphs, inventing whole feats that never happened. “De-Nazification” has failed to resonate and fallen from use.
The state media has apparently handled squabbling among officials (eg, Medinsky, Peskov vs. Kadyrov, Turchak) by delaying coverage until the marching orders are clear. Supposedly, quoting Chechnya’s dictator now requires a formal okay from executives.
Anyway, quite an article. Here it is again:
https://dpiy1t0nlwafj.cloudfront.net/na...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
Enako. :)
Ja če boš še naprej živel v EU, je pa potem res sila nespametno navijat za Ruse.
Malo si omejen očitno.
Zakaj pa to? Rusi so del naše celine in z njimi je smiselno imeti dobre odnose.
Kolonialna mentaliteta, kjer bomo vladali svetu in nabijali sankcije državam, ki ne bodo nastavile naše lutke, pač ne vodi v to smer - nasprotno - krepi našega gospodarja, ki nas točno zato tudi sili v ta konflikt.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Unchancy ::
Poldi pravi, da so biolabi samo poceni propaganda.
Tile rusofili se še med sabo ne morejo zmenit kako bodo lagali
Mar niso? Ne moreš vedeti, kaj je z njimi, več kot očitno se pa o njih piše za preusmerjanje pozornosti. Podobno kot ostalo, o čemer beremo - MSM je pač namenjen proženju emocionalnega odziva, ne predstavitvi dejstev za potrebe racionale debate.
Me pa ne preseneča, da te čudi, da ne verjamemo v enoumje, v katerega ste prežvekovalci MSM tako zaljubljeni.
Ej Poldi, a ni nekdo nalepil link, da so zdaj v Rusiji že moderne zarote z magijo? Naj bi se Ukrajinci posluževali magičnih urokov ipd.?
Svašta može…
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D3m ::
Big report from @wwwproektmedia about catastrophically under-equipped Russian soldiers in Ukraine
Ruski vojaki ali LDPR vojaki?
Naj bi se Ukrajinci posluževali magičnih urokov ipd.?
So našli nekaj, kar lahko kupiš v specialni trgovini. Samo se je treba vprašati, če ni bil model samo zbiratelj.
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Poldi112 ::
povzetek članka
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Big report from @wwwproektmedia about catastrophically under-equipped Russian soldiers in Ukraine
Zeh.
Kdaj torej lahko pričakujemo vsaj zaustavitev napredovanja rusov, če ne že kontraofenzive? Ker to, da totalni nesposobni rusi lomijo s strani zahoda trenirano in opremljeno vojsko, močno spominja na ISIS, ki je lomil zahodno izurjene in opremljene enote v Iraku, pa talibane, ki so podobno počeli v Afganistanu. Ker so nam, mimogrede, vse administracije po vrsti lagale o napredku.
Ampak danes smo leta 2022 in je vse drugače!
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Pac-Man ::
Big report from @wwwproektmedia about catastrophically under-equipped Russian soldiers in Ukraine
Ruski vojaki ali LDPR vojaki?
Maš članek, strojni prevod je OK.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mtosev ::
Vidim, da smo blizu, da prepovemo rusko nafto. Izgleda, da bosta madžarska in slovaška deležni izjeme.
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PrimoZ_ ::
povzetek članka
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Big report from @wwwproektmedia about catastrophically under-equipped Russian soldiers in Ukraine
Zeh.
Kdaj torej lahko pričakujemo vsaj zaustavitev napredovanja rusov, če ne že kontraofenzive? Ker to, da totalni nesposobni rusi lomijo s strani zahoda trenirano in opremljeno vojsko, močno spominja na ISIS, ki je lomil zahodno izurjene in opremljene enote v Iraku, pa talibane, ki so podobno počeli v Afganistanu. Ker so nam, mimogrede, vse administracije po vrsti lagale o napredku.
Ampak danes smo leta 2022 in je vse drugače!
En poldi mi je povedal, da bodo Rusi takoj zmagal ;)
Ampak očitno je Poldi lažnjivec
D3m ::
Češka in Bolgarija tudi, čeprav še ni uradno potrjeno. Se pa na veliko govori.
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Poldi112 ::
Ej Poldi, a ni nekdo nalepil link, da so zdaj v Rusiji že moderne zarote z magijo? Naj bi se Ukrajinci posluževali magičnih urokov ipd.?
Svašta može…
Ne vem - take oslarije preskočim.
Ti verjameš v njih in se ti zdi smiselno o tem zgubljati besede? Ker točno temu je to namenjeno - preusmerjanuju pozornosti od pomembnih vprašanj.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
D3m ::
Big report from @wwwproektmedia about catastrophically under-equipped Russian soldiers in Ukraine
Ruski vojaki ali LDPR vojaki?
Maš članek, strojni prevod je OK.
sem pričakoval več od članka. Ali pa vsaj video/slikovne materiale.
Torej lahko domnevamo, da mislijo LDPR.
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PrimoZ_ ::
Poldi pravi, da so biolabi samo poceni propaganda.
Tile rusofili se še med sabo ne morejo zmenit kako bodo lagali
Mar niso? Ne moreš vedeti, kaj je z njimi, več kot očitno se pa o njih piše za preusmerjanje pozornosti. Podobno kot ostalo, o čemer beremo - MSM je pač namenjen proženju emocionalnega odziva, ne predstavitvi dejstev za potrebe racionale debate.
Me pa ne preseneča, da te čudi, da ne verjamemo v enoumje, v katerega ste prežvekovalci MSM tako zaljubljeni.
Vem, ker si mi ti povedal :)
TezkoDihanje ::
Dejstvo pa ostaja, da imaš v vsaki vojni diverzije in ta je bila relativno uspešna.
Lahko nehaš s temi lažmi, ker samo ponavljaš rusko propando.
To ni bila nobena diverzija. Proti Kievu so poslali svoje najboljše enote, ki so bile prav smešno poražene. Vmes so se celo nekaj tednov vkopavali (da bi ostali dalj časa), potem je pa prišla komanda, da morajo zapustit celotno ozemlje, kao da se bodo usmerili v Donbas. In zdaj traja že skoraj 3 tedne ofenziva v Donbasu, Rusi praktično niso zasedli ničesar, izgubljajo pa kakšen % ali dva na dan opreme.
D3m ::
https://twitter.com/UKR_Report/status/1...
UKR REPORT
@UKR_Report
??CONTACT LOST WITH THE UKRAINIAN FIGHTERS IN THE AZOVSTAL STEEL PLANT, MAYOR SAYS
UKR REPORT
@UKR_Report
??CONTACT LOST WITH THE UKRAINIAN FIGHTERS IN THE AZOVSTAL STEEL PLANT, MAYOR SAYS
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TezkoDihanje ::
https://twitter.com/UKR_Report/status/1...
UKR REPORT
@UKR_Report
??CONTACT LOST WITH THE UKRAINIAN FIGHTERS IN THE AZOVSTAL STEEL PLANT, MAYOR SAYS
S temi Rusi je vse isti kurac, kot je bilo s Srbi na Hrvaškem in v Bosni (1991-1995).
Isti štosi, isti primitivizem.
Putin izdao naređenje - napad je opozvan
Moskva -- Ruske snage ne jurišaju na čeličanu Azovstalj u Marijupolju, ali suzbijaju pokušaje ekstremista koji se tamo kriju da zauzmu vatreni položaj, saopštio Kremlj.
Poldi112 ::
En poldi mi je povedal, da bodo Rusi takoj zmagal ;)
Kje? To smo že nekajkrat razčistili, pa se še kar lažeš?
Koliko enot so rusi poslali v specialno vojaško operacijo?
Če bi šli nad Ukrajino kot celoto, bi imel dejansko vojno s stotinami bombnikov in miljoni vojakov, ki bi vpadle v državo. Ter seveda tudi večje izgube za osvojitev terena, ki ga niti nimaš namena osvojiti, ker ga nisi sposoben držati... Kakšen smisel bi bil torej v takem totalnem napadu?
Saj veš, tako kot so američani recimo osvajali Vietnam s tisočerimi bombniki. In jih posledično tudi ogromno izgubili.
Rusi pač kirurško odstranjujejo naci rak iz Ukrajine, katerega je zahod desetletje negoval.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Unchancy ::
Ej Poldi, a ni nekdo nalepil link, da so zdaj v Rusiji že moderne zarote z magijo? Naj bi se Ukrajinci posluževali magičnih urokov ipd.?
Svašta može…
Ne vem - take oslarije preskočim.
Ti verjameš v njih in se ti zdi smiselno o tem zgubljati besede? Ker točno temu je to namenjeno - preusmerjanuju pozornosti od pomembnih vprašanj.
Lepo kažejo na oceno publike, ki so jim namenjene takšne oslarije. Gre pa za razne korenčke & Co.
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TezkoDihanje ::
Če bi šli nad Ukrajino kot celoto, bi imel dejansko vojno s stotinami bombnikov in miljoni vojakov,
Saj so šli s stotinami bombniki, z miljoni vojakov pa seveda niso šli, ker še teh 200 jurjev niso sposobni opremit, da ne bi kakšnemu kamionu razneslo gume po 100km vožnje. Da ne govorim o arhaičnih orožjih, ki jih nosijo predvsem LNDRjevci. Čelade imajo hujš kot one iz WW2.
Poldi112 ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Dejstvo pa ostaja, da imaš v vsaki vojni diverzije in ta je bila relativno uspešna.
Lahko nehaš s temi lažmi, ker samo ponavljaš rusko propando.
To ni bila nobena diverzija. Proti Kievu so poslali svoje najboljše enote, ki so bile prav smešno poražene. Vmes so se celo nekaj tednov vkopavali (da bi ostali dalj časa), potem je pa prišla komanda, da morajo zapustit celotno ozemlje, kao da se bodo usmerili v Donbas. In zdaj traja že skoraj 3 tedne ofenziva v Donbasu, Rusi praktično niso zasedli ničesar, izgubljajo pa kakšen % ali dva na dan opreme.
Lahko, da so imele enote v Kyev-u tudi alternativne misije, lahko, da jih je presenetil odpor, ...
Vseeno je pa zanimivo, kako naj bi Ukrajinci te "najboljše" enote klali kot zajce, medtem ko so drugorazredne enote okupirale in spucale povezavo do Krima?
Se ti zdi, da rusi izgubljajo več kot Ukrajina? Kljub vsej vojaški robi, ki se steka v državo? V Donbasu pač sistematično radirajo ukrajinsko vojsko in izgubljajo neprimerno manj kot ukrajinci - zato pa beremo samo o sistematičnem rušenju rusov.
Je pa enako naredil tudi Stalin - poslal najboljšo enoto v diverzantsko mislijo ter celo poskrbel, da so Nemci to izvedeli.
Pa pozabil si odgovoriti na vprašanje, ali so rusi navlekli dovolj opreme/ljudi za resen poizkus zasedbe Kyev-a?
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Saj so šli s stotinami bombniki,
Link?
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PrimoZ_ ::
En poldi mi je povedal, da bodo Rusi takoj zmagal ;)
Kje? To smo že nekajkrat razčistili, pa se še kar lažeš?
Koliko enot so rusi poslali v specialno vojaško operacijo?
Če bi šli nad Ukrajino kot celoto, bi imel dejansko vojno s stotinami bombnikov in miljoni vojakov, ki bi vpadle v državo. Ter seveda tudi večje izgube za osvojitev terena, ki ga niti nimaš namena osvojiti, ker ga nisi sposoben držati... Kakšen smisel bi bil torej v takem totalnem napadu?
Saj veš, tako kot so američani recimo osvajali Vietnam s tisočerimi bombniki. In jih posledično tudi ogromno izgubili.
Rusi pač kirurško odstranjujejo naci rak iz Ukrajine, katerega je zahod desetletje negoval.
ahaha poldi.
Smejem se ti v glavo :D
TezkoDihanje ::
lahko, da jih je presenetil odpor, ...
saj gre...
Vseeno je pa zanimivo, kako naj bi Ukrajinci te "najboljše" enote klali kot zajce, medtem ko so drugorazredne enote okupirale in spucale povezavo do Krima?
Kaj misliš zakaj? A imaš kakšen smisel za vojaško taktiko, operativo? Kako je možno, da si takšna vprašanja sploh postavljaš? Dobesedno zraven Rusije so bili in imeli so porihtan support, ki ga tam na severu niso imeli. Poleg tega je tudi teren na jugu občutno drugačen in branilcem ne daje toliko zavetja kot sever.
Se ti zdi, da rusi izgubljajo več kot Ukrajina?
Branilci imajo 3x manj izgub kot pa napadalci. To so zgodovinska dejstva. Verjetno ti ni težko zastopit, da je napadat neprimerno težje, kot pa se branit.
Kljub vsej vojaški robi, ki se steka v državo?
Kaj pa se steka v državo?
V Donbasu pač sistematično radirajo ukrajinsko vojsko in izgubljajo neprimerno manj kot ukrajinci - zato pa beremo samo o sistematičnem rušenju rusov.
Kako to veš?
Je pa enako naredil tudi Stalin - poslal najboljšo enoto v diverzantsko mislijo ter celo poskrbel, da so Nemci to izvedeli.
Ne to ni bilo tako. Rusi so vedno napadali iz več smeri in šele potem, ko na določenih delih fronte niso uspeli, so rekli, da je šlo tam za diverzijo. Komplet neumna ruska propaganda.
Pa pozabil si odgovoriti na vprašanje, ali so rusi navlekli dovolj opreme/ljudi za resen poizkus zasedbe Kyev-a?
Vprašaj ruske planerje te "specialne" operacije. Očitno dovolj.
PrimoZ_ ::
Enako. :)
Ja če boš še naprej živel v EU, je pa potem res sila nespametno navijat za Ruse.
Malo si omejen očitno.
Zakaj pa to? Rusi so del naše celine in z njimi je smiselno imeti dobre odnose.
Kolonialna mentaliteta, kjer bomo vladali svetu in nabijali sankcije državam, ki ne bodo nastavile naše lutke, pač ne vodi v to smer - nasprotno - krepi našega gospodarja, ki nas točno zato tudi sili v ta konflikt.
Nabijal sakcije ?
Dej me malo spomni al so rusi najprej napadli sosedo in s potem sledile sankcije al je bilo obratno ?
Sicer pa Rusi, bi z lahkoto zmagali...
Ampak nočejo zmagat, se držijo nazaj
Pac-Man ::
AP multimedijsko o napadu na gledališče v Mariupolu
https://apnews.com/article/Russia-ukrai...
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Amid all the horrors that have unfolded in the war on Ukraine, the Russian bombing of the Donetsk Academic Regional Drama Theater in Mariupol on March 16 stands out as the single deadliest known attack against civilians to date. An Associated Press investigation has found evidence that the attack was in fact far deadlier than estimated, killing closer to 600 people inside and outside the building. That’s almost double the death toll cited so far, and many survivors put the number even higher.
The AP investigation recreated what happened inside the theater on that day from the accounts of 23 survivors, rescuers, and people intimately familiar with its new life as a bomb shelter. The AP also drew on two sets of floor plans of the theater, photos and video taken inside before, during and after that day and feedback from experts who reviewed the methodology.
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https://apnews.com/article/Russia-ukrai...
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Amid all the horrors that have unfolded in the war on Ukraine, the Russian bombing of the Donetsk Academic Regional Drama Theater in Mariupol on March 16 stands out as the single deadliest known attack against civilians to date. An Associated Press investigation has found evidence that the attack was in fact far deadlier than estimated, killing closer to 600 people inside and outside the building. That’s almost double the death toll cited so far, and many survivors put the number even higher.
The AP investigation recreated what happened inside the theater on that day from the accounts of 23 survivors, rescuers, and people intimately familiar with its new life as a bomb shelter. The AP also drew on two sets of floor plans of the theater, photos and video taken inside before, during and after that day and feedback from experts who reviewed the methodology.
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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Branilci imajo 3x manj izgub kot pa napadalci. To so zgodovinska dejstva. Verjetno ti ni težko zastopit, da je napadat neprimerno težje, kot pa se branit.
V ekvivalentnih razmerah. Ne, če po obrambi pred brutalno nabijaš s topništvom in ji napadaš tudi logistiko v zaledju, medtem ko obramba efektivno nima za burek in prosijači svet za havbice.
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Kaj pa se steka v državo?
Rakete, tanki, ... Mar ne beremo dnevno o miljonskih paketih pomoči.
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Kako to veš?
Malo zdravega sklepanja. Zemljevidi okupiranih območij počasi rastejo, mar ne? Medtem ko se niti en še ni opogubil, da bi povedal, kdaj lahko pričakujemo protiofenzivo? Čez mesec? Tri? Leto?
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Pa pozabil si odgovoriti na vprašanje, ali so rusi navlekli dovolj opreme/ljudi za resen poizkus zasedbe Kyev-a?
Vprašaj ruske planerje te "specialne" operacije. Očitno dovolj.
Ja, za denacifikacijo Donbasa - ne pa tudi zasedbe Kyev-a. Iz česar je precej očitno, da je bil Kyev najverjetneje diverzija.
Medtem ko MSM piše o herojski obrambi Kyev-a.
Ampak nočejo zmagat, se držijo nazaj
Kaj bi pa po tvojem rusi imeli od zasedene celotne Ukrajine, ki je ne bi bili sposobni nadzirati?
Ter zakaj misliš, da imajo večino robe/vojakov še kar lepo v skladiščih/doma? Ker izgubljajo v Ukrajini?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
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Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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PrimoZ_ ::
Poldi, ti si klovn :)
Nadaljuj, ker je zabavno.
In tvoj post je odličen :D
Nadaljuj, ker je zabavno.
In tvoj post je odličen :D
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Pac-Man ::
the Russian bombing
You sure?
I'm sure
https://apnews.com/article/Russia-ukrai...
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The AP investigation also refutes Russian claims that the theater was demolished by Ukrainian forces or served as a Ukrainian military base. None of the witnesses saw Ukrainian soldiers operating inside the building. And not one person doubted that the theater was destroyed in a Russian air attack aimed with precision at a civilian target everyone knew was the city’s largest bomb shelter, with children in it.
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Maria Kutnyakova, Galina’s 30-year-old daughter, walked through the entire building in search of free space, noting the full rooms. She left her mother to handle the registration and went out by herself to find her uncle, who lived nearby. They hadn’t seen him in nine days.
That’s when she heard warplanes flying in from the sea and heading to the Azovstal steel plant. She walked a little further, and heard a single plane, much closer.
Then came the explosion. As she hugged the edge of the nearest building, she thought to herself, “So it exploded. Let it explode. I’ve heard a million bombs like that, and the bottom line is it didn’t hit me.”
But she saw smoke rising from the enormous park with the theater at the center. The theater stood bare, with a huge chunk of its red roof on the ground. The meter (three-foot) thick walls by the field kitchen had disintegrated to dust.
Her mind froze. Her mother and sister were inside.
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Maria Kutnyakova, an IT specialist, who was nearby the Donetsk Academic Regional Drama Theatre in Mariupol, Ukraine, on March 16, 2022, when it was bombed, poses for a photo at the Lviv Regional Academic Puppet Theater in Lviv, Ukraine, on April 2, 2022. Her mother and sister were inside. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Unchancy ::
Enako. :)
Ja če boš še naprej živel v EU, je pa potem res sila nespametno navijat za Ruse.
Malo si omejen očitno.
Zakaj pa to? Rusi so del naše celine in z njimi je smiselno imeti dobre odnose.
Kolonialna mentaliteta, kjer bomo vladali svetu in nabijali sankcije državam, ki ne bodo nastavile naše lutke, pač ne vodi v to smer - nasprotno - krepi našega gospodarja, ki nas točno zato tudi sili v ta konflikt.
Nabijal sakcije ?
Dej me malo spomni al so rusi najprej napadli sosedo in s potem sledile sankcije al je bilo obratno ?
Sicer pa Rusi, bi z lahkoto zmagali...
Ampak nočejo zmagat, se držijo nazaj
Ahahahahahaha, lepo si ga našel, strokovnjaka za visoko politiko Poldija…ROFL
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TezkoDihanje ::
V ekvivalentnih razmerah. Ne, če po obrambi pred brutalno nabijaš s topništvom in ji napadaš tudi logistiko v zaledju, medtem ko obramba efektivno nima za burek in prosijači svet za havbice.
Pa kakšna artilerija misliš, da je to? Dobesedno zmečejo eno goro granat, kjer so impacti spreadani daleč preveč okoli utrjenih položajev. Tole kar se grejo Rusi v Donbasu je posmeha vredno. Južno od Izjuma so se popolnoma ustavili zaradi norih izgub in čepijo že skoraj en teden pri miru. Še Gerasimov se je oglasil tam prejšni teden, da progura vse skupaj.
tole je pa izjava Igorja Girkina, ki redno komentira dogajanje v Donbasu in je odkrito razočaran nad počasnostjo in neučinkovitostjo ruske mašinerije
Rakete, tanki, ... Mar ne beremo dnevno o miljonskih paketih pomoči.
Ukrajinci dobivajo orožja, kaj pa dobivajo Rusi??
Malo zdravega sklepanja. Zemljevidi okupiranih območij počasi rastejo, mar ne?
A rastejo? Kaj se dogaja pa severno in vzhodno od Harkova? In zakaj je to pomembno, če Rusi tudi od tam pobegnejo?
Medtem ko se niti en še ni opogubil, da bi povedal, kdaj lahko pričakujemo protiofenzivo? Čez mesec? Tri? Leto?
Protiofenziva bo prišla, ko dobijo Ukrajinci dovolj ofenzivnih sredstev. Pa Rusi se morajo zlajhat.
Ja, za denacifikacijo Donbasa - ne pa tudi zasedbe Kyev-a.
A misliš, da si brihten, če si general po bitki??
Iz česar je precej očitno, da je bil Kyev najverjetneje diverzija.Medtem ko MSM piše o herojski obrambi Kyev-a.
Samo ponavljaš bebavo rusko propagando. Tam so Rusi izgubili preko 2000 vojaških vozil. Ne me zajebavat, da je to diverzija. Za diverzijo bi lahko čakali za mejo v Belorusiji, pa bi že tako vezali na sebe en kup ukrajinskih enot, pa nobenih izgub ne bi imeli.
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scythe ::
Neki gori v Rusiji? Rusi poročajo, da je kaboom zaloga goriva v industriski coni Dzerzhinsk, tudi v Ukrajini/Makeyevka gori zaloga goriva. Kak video?
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D3m ::
the Russian bombing
You sure?
I'm sure
https://apnews.com/article/Russia-ukrai...
...
The AP investigation also refutes Russian claims that the theater was demolished by Ukrainian forces or served as a Ukrainian military base. None of the witnesses saw Ukrainian soldiers operating inside the building. And not one person doubted that the theater was destroyed in a Russian air attack aimed with precision at a civilian target everyone knew was the city’s largest bomb shelter, with children in it.
...
Maria Kutnyakova, Galina’s 30-year-old daughter, walked through the entire building in search of free space, noting the full rooms. She left her mother to handle the registration and went out by herself to find her uncle, who lived nearby. They hadn’t seen him in nine days.
That’s when she heard warplanes flying in from the sea and heading to the Azovstal steel plant. She walked a little further, and heard a single plane, much closer.
Then came the explosion. As she hugged the edge of the nearest building, she thought to herself, “So it exploded. Let it explode. I’ve heard a million bombs like that, and the bottom line is it didn’t hit me.”
But she saw smoke rising from the enormous park with the theater at the center. The theater stood bare, with a huge chunk of its red roof on the ground. The meter (three-foot) thick walls by the field kitchen had disintegrated to dust.
Her mind froze. Her mother and sister were inside.
...
Maria Kutnyakova, an IT specialist, who was nearby the Donetsk Academic Regional Drama Theatre in Mariupol, Ukraine, on March 16, 2022, when it was bombed, poses for a photo at the Lviv Regional Academic Puppet Theater in Lviv, Ukraine, on April 2, 2022. Her mother and sister were inside. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)
Nisem prepričan. Rusi nimajo preciznega orožja. :)
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scythe ::
Maš link?
Na twiter napiši
Nizhny Novgorod fire
pa sam oceni kaj je res in kaj ni res med novicami :)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl...
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Pac-Man ::
Nisem prepričan. Rusi nimajo preciznega orožja. :)
Imajo, samo ne v zadostnih količinah.
KAB-500S-E @ Wikipedia
Letalo naj bi prišlo z morja in nizko. Če dovolj nizko, se da tole narediti tudi z nevodeno bombo.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
LightBit ::
En poldi mi je povedal, da bodo Rusi takoj zmagal ;)
Kje? To smo že nekajkrat razčistili, pa se še kar lažeš?
Koliko enot so rusi poslali v specialno vojaško operacijo?
Če bi šli nad Ukrajino kot celoto, bi imel dejansko vojno s stotinami bombnikov in miljoni vojakov, ki bi vpadle v državo. Ter seveda tudi večje izgube za osvojitev terena, ki ga niti nimaš namena osvojiti, ker ga nisi sposoben držati... Kakšen smisel bi bil torej v takem totalnem napadu?
Saj veš, tako kot so američani recimo osvajali Vietnam s tisočerimi bombniki. In jih posledično tudi ogromno izgubili.
Rusi pač kirurško odstranjujejo naci rak iz Ukrajine, katerega je zahod desetletje negoval.
Kirurško.Zakaj je potem Mariupol tak kot Berlin 1945?
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D3m ::
Torej, če povzamemo.
Na civile mečejo precizno orožje ob enem pa izgubljajo proti UA.
:)
Na civile mečejo precizno orožje ob enem pa izgubljajo proti UA.
:)
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