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Pac-Man ::

Bloomberg misli it z vsemi topovi nad Sandersa.
Kar se mene tiče - odlično. Bolje, da se potencialne težave pokažejo dokler je še čas, kot da jih na dan privlečejo republikanci enkrat konec poletja. Smodnik bo takrat že moker.

Mike Bloomberg prepares media onslaught against Democratic front-runner Bernie Sanders
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Pac-Man ::

Ker

Vox: Bernie Sanders looks electable in surveys — but it could be a mirage
New research suggests Sanders would drive swing voters to Trump — and need a youth turnout miracle to compensate.
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Zheegec ::

Bomo videli, na neki točki oglasi niso več učinkoviti, vprašanje koliko negativnih oglasov lahko prikažeš v enem tednu preden imajo negativni učinek zate. Vsekakor Bloomberga zanima samo preprečiti zmago Sandersu, tudi če uniči demokratsko stranko v contested conventionu, katerega si želi.

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"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

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Zheegec ::

"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

NMH ::

Zheegec je izjavil:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/30/bernie-...


to je staro.

to je novo:
Cardiologist explains how Bernie Sanders could clear up health concerns

Richard Kovacs, the president of the American College of Cardiology, told NBC News that letters about Sanders’ health released by the campaign left out “the left ventricular ejection fraction.”

Kovacs said the number measures how much blood volume the heart pushes out with each heartbeat, and that it gives a good indication of how likely another heart attack was.

“Normally the heart will push out 60 percent,” Kovacs told NBC.

“If you go down to 40 or 50 percent, we regard that as mild impairment of the left ventricle. Thirty to 40 percent would be moderate. If you get to 30 percent, that would be severe.”

Fritz ::

NMH je izjavil:

Zheegec je izjavil:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/30/bernie-...


to je staro.

to je novo:
Cardiologist explains how Bernie Sanders could clear up health concerns

Richard Kovacs, the president of the American College of Cardiology, told NBC News that letters about Sanders’ health released by the campaign left out “the left ventricular ejection fraction.”

Kovacs said the number measures how much blood volume the heart pushes out with each heartbeat, and that it gives a good indication of how likely another heart attack was.

“Normally the heart will push out 60 percent,” Kovacs told NBC.

“If you go down to 40 or 50 percent, we regard that as mild impairment of the left ventricle. Thirty to 40 percent would be moderate. If you get to 30 percent, that would be severe.”

Ok, a to velja samo za Sandersa ali tudi za ostale kandidate za nominacijo (npr. Bidna)? Velja to tudi za trenutnega predsednika? Dobimo tudi za Trumpa javno objavljene podatke o zdravstvenem stanju?
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Kim Dotcom pravi, da je Julianu uredil oprostitev s strani Trumpa. Assange bi moral samo izdati svoj vir za DNC Leaks, ki ne sme biti Rusija, česar ni želel/mogel storiti.
Povsem možno, da Kim išče 15 minut slave.

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/12...

I brokered the deal via Trumps best friend (name redacted) to get Rep. Dana Rohrbacher to offer a pardon to Julian.
Trump lies when he says he had nothing to do with the pardon offer. After Julian refused to disclose his source Trump got him indicted.
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Pac-Man ::

Bil sem malo površen, ampak vseeno manj kot Kim. Če je (vse) res.

Trumpovemu potencialnemu bestiju je ime Sean.

Hannity aka klient št. 3?

Sean Hannity revealed as Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's client number 3

Več teoretiziranja:
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1...
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Pac-Man ::

Nadaljujemo s Conspiracy Today:

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/12...

Reminder that at the height of his Seth Rich conspiracy theory campaign, Sean Hannity set up an interview on his Fox show with Kim Dotcom, who claimed to have proof that Rich had been Assange's source for the DNC emails. Interview was canceled.

https://www.mediamatters.org/sean-hanni...
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Fritz ::

Paco, dolgočasni ste s temi Rusi. Sicer ne vem koliko se Rusija vmešava v volitve a se Izrael toliko, da je to vidno iz vesolja vendar MSM o tem pridno molčijo.

Za Assangea pa je edina kolikor toliko dobra opcija preprečitev izročitve ZDA, saj mu javno objavo njihovih zločinov nad civilisti nikoli ne bodo oprostili.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Kako se je Izrael vmešal v volitve l. 2016?
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Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Kako se je Izrael vmešal v volitve l. 2016?

So, take, say, the huge issue of interference in our pristine elections. Did the Russians interfere in our elections? An issue of overwhelming concern in the media. I mean, in most of the world, that’s almost a joke. First of all, if you’re interested in foreign interference in our elections, whatever the Russians may have done barely counts or weighs in the balance as compared with what another state does, openly, brazenly and with enormous support. Israeli intervention in U.S. elections vastly overwhelms anything the Russians may have done, I mean, even to the point where the prime minister of Israel, Netanyahu, goes directly to Congress, without even informing the president, and speaks to Congress, with overwhelming applause, to try to undermine the president’s policies—what happened with Obama and Netanyahu in 2015. Did Putin come to give an address to the joint sessions of Congress trying to—calling on them to reverse U.S. policy, without even informing the president? And that’s just a tiny bit of this overwhelming influence. So if you happen to be interested in influence of—foreign influence on elections, there are places to look.

https://www.democracynow.org/2018/7/27/...

Zdajle vleči ven neke Trumpove nedokazane zadeve iz 2016 je popolni nonsens, še posebej zato, ker to nima nobenega učinka nanj in na njegove volivce, tudi če bi bilo nedvoumno dokazano. Bistveno bolje bo, če bodo na drugi strani izbrali ustreznega kandidata, ki bo premagal Trumpa in spremenil delovanje političnega sistema (oligarhije) v ZDA.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

To je vse? Weak sauce.

Ni povsem košer, ampak republikanci so imeli nadzor nad kongresom in so povabili Netanjahuja, ker so imeli skupen interes - torpediranje sporazuma z Iranom.

Vse skupaj se je zgodilo 3. marca 2015 - v trenutnem ciklu bi bil ekvivalenten datum 3. marec 2018. Hillary je kandidaturo najavila 12. aprila 2015.

Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign @ Wikipedia
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Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

To je vse? Weak sauce.

Ni povsem košer, ampak republikanci so imeli nadzor nad kongresom in so povabili Netanjahuja, ker so imeli skupen interes - torpediranje sporazuma z Iranom.

Vse skupaj se je zgodilo 3. marca 2015 - v trenutnem ciklu bi bil ekvivalenten datum 3. marec 2018. Hillary je kandidaturo najavila 12. aprila 2015.

Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign @ Wikipedia

Očitno nisi prebral tega dela:
And that’s just a tiny bit of this overwhelming influence. So if you happen to be interested in influence of—foreign influence on elections, there are places to look.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premiu...

https://www.globalresearch.ca/does-isra...

The foreign government that has long been most active in interfering in U.S. politics and U.S. elections is that of Israel. The only reason Israel’s most organized and influential advocates in the United States have not registered as foreign agents is that the influence thus bought has dissuaded U.S. politicians from pushing for such registration.

Če vsaj malo spremljaš dogajanje in uporabljaš iskalnik, se težko delaš nevednega.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Ta AIPAC?

https://twitter.com/iridium_tea/status/...

Saj veš, da so njegovi člani državljani ZDA?
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Pac-Man ::

Razloži, kako je Netanjahu z govorom 3. marca 2015, preden je kdo od kandidatov sploh napovedal kandidaturo, vplival na volitve novembra 2016?

2016 United States presidential election @ Wikipedia
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Truga ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ker

Vox: Bernie Sanders looks electable in surveys — but it could be a mirage
New research suggests Sanders would drive swing voters to Trump — and need a youth turnout miracle to compensate.

https://twitter.com/dogsrcops666/status...

belidihur ::

Barnie bi uspel recimo v Sloveniji, kjer bi lepo prodajal zgodbice.
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Zheegec ::

Dvomim. Njegov zdravstveni načrt bi v Sloveniji pomenil praktično popolno privatizacijo zdravstva. Še največji desničarji (SDS) si ne upajo javno predlagati tako desno-usmerjenega zdravstvenega načrta, ker vejo da je preveč desničarski, da bi ga slovenski volilci sprejeli.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

Pac-Man ::

Truga je izjavil:



FFS, zadevo je objavil Vox.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vox/



V drugih novicah, cela serija The case for...







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fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Fritz ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ta AIPAC?
Saj veš, da so njegovi člani državljani ZDA?

A če si državljan ZDA ne moreš delati v interesu tuje vlade?

Izrael in njemu zvesti lobiji se ne vmešavajo samo v volitve temveč v celotno delovanje državnega aparata ZDA. Zato je to videti 'normalno'. Pa ni.

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/isr...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Pravna država zaenkrat še vedno deluje.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/04/26...

A Texas speech pathologist who sued the state after losing her school contract because she declined to sign an agreement promising not to boycott Israel said Friday she's elated that a federal judge ruled in her favor. Bahia Amawi added that she hopes others are inspired to stand up for their beliefs.

Her remarks at an Austin press conference came the day after U.S. District Judge Robert Pitman temporarily blocked a Texas law that prohibits state government agencies from doing business with contractors that are boycotting Israel.

“I know I was on the right side of this fight,” Amawi said at the press conference at a local office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which filed the lawsuit on her behalf. “I didn’t think, ‘I’m going to run away from this fight.’ I really wanted to pursue it. Not just for me, but for the kids that I service, my own children and everybody in Texas.”

...

In issuing the injunction, Pitman wrote that the law goes against the First Amendment because it threatens to suppress unpopular ideas and “manipulate the public debate through coercion rather than persuasion.” The injunction order will stand while litigation proceeds in the case.

...

The Texas Attorney General’s office released a statement Friday on Pitman’s ruling and blockage of the law.

“We're disappointed with the ruling essentially requiring government to do business with discriminatory companies,” said Marc Rylander, a spokesman for Paxton. “We look forward to defending this law on appeal.”





Sveža anketa iz Pennsylvanije:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status...

PENNSYLVANIA WH’2020 poll (Morning Call/Muhlenberg):
Sanders 49
Trump 46

Trump 47
Biden 47

Trump 47
Warren 47

Trump 45
Klobuchar 44

Trump 46
Buttigieg 45

Trump 48
Bloomberg 45

Trump deserves re-elect 42
Does not deserve 54

Trump 42 approve, 50 dis
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Zheegec ::

Bloomberg bo izgubil 45 držav, če bo kandidat Dem stranke.
"božja zapoved pravi; <Spoštuj očeta in mater>,
ne govori pa o spoštovanju sodstva."
Janez Janša, 29.04.2014

Fritz ::

Sanders will not be immune to such pressures. His campaign has largely catered to Russiagate talking points and not questioned the attendant hyperbole and underlying agendas. That may be a sound strategic choice during a political race, when Sanders's opponents seek any chance to manufacture a controversy, from mean Bernie Bros to his praising Cuba's education system, that distracts from real issues. But over the long term, if Sanders's agenda has any chance of success, he will have to stand up to the militarist Cold War-addled agenda that has gripped the Democratic Party since 2016. The social programs that Sanders plans at home will not be possible so long as the United States is locked in a chauvinist, costly proxy conflict with the other top nuclear power.
https://www.thenation.com/article/polit...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

NMH ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:


Sveža anketa iz Pennsylvanije:
https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status...

PENNSYLVANIA WH’2020 poll (Morning Call/Muhlenberg):
Sanders 49
Trump 46

Trump 47
Biden 47

Trump 47
Warren 47

Trump 45
Klobuchar 44

Trump 46
Buttigieg 45

Trump 48
Bloomberg 45

Trump deserves re-elect 42
Does not deserve 54
Trump42 approve, 50 dis


Pa ti veš, kakšne ankete daješ tukaj?????
https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume...

Q1: Thank you. Which of the following categories best describes your current voting status? Are
you registered as a ______? (READ LIST)

1. Democrat…………………………………………………………… 47%
2. Republican…………………………………………………………..40%
3. Independent………………………………………………………… 11%
4. Other Party…………………………………………………………. 3%

7% točk več folka v tej anketi je registriranih Demokratov kot pa Republikancev.

TheBlueOne ::

Ce slucajno demokrati s superdelegati zadusijo Bernija, da resijo hierarhijo v stranki, s tem skoraj sigurno izgubijo volitve.

Ce bo Bernie vs. Trump, so sigurno vse karte na mizi. Si mislim, da rezultat ne bo tako blizu, kot predidevajo ankete.

nejclp ::

NMH je izjavil:



Pa ti veš, kakšne ankete daješ tukaj?????
https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume...

Q1: Thank you. Which of the following categories best describes your current voting status? Are
you registered as a ______? (READ LIST)

1. Democrat…………………………………………………………… 47%
2. Republican…………………………………………………………..40%
3. Independent………………………………………………………… 11%
4. Other Party…………………………………………………………. 3%

7% točk več folka v tej anketi je registriranih Demokratov kot pa Republikancev.


Ker po tvoji logiki bi moralo bit v vzorcu 50% demokratov in 50% republikancev? Daj razmisli malo.

NMH ::

nejclp je izjavil:

Ker po tvoji logiki bi moralo bit v vzorcu 50% demokratov in 50% republikancev? Daj razmisli malo.


Daj ti raje pomisli, kaj je point delat anketo med REGISTRIRANIMI volilci, kjer je enih precej več kot drugih.

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nejclp ::

NMH je izjavil:

nejclp je izjavil:

Ker po tvoji logiki bi moralo bit v vzorcu 50% demokratov in 50% republikancev? Daj razmisli malo.


Daj ti raje pomisli, kaj je point delat anketo med REGISTRIRANIMI volilci, kjer je enih precej več kot drugih.


Ker se moraš v pensilvaniji registrirat, če hočeš voliti?
https://www.votespa.com/Register-to-Vot...

NMH ::

nejclp je izjavil:

Ker se moraš v pensilvaniji registrirat, če hočeš voliti?
https://www.votespa.com/Register-to-Vot...


KAJ si zdaj to prilimal??8-O
Sploh ne razumeš. ;((

nejclp ::

NMH je izjavil:

nejclp je izjavil:

Ker se moraš v pensilvaniji registrirat, če hočeš voliti?
https://www.votespa.com/Register-to-Vot...


KAJ si zdaj to prilimal??8-O
Sploh ne razumeš. ;((

Itak da ne razumem tvojih miselnih procesov.

Raziskava je narejena na randomiziranem vzorcu tistih, ki volijo (so registrirani, ker drugače ne morejo voliti), zato realizirani vzorec odraža delež registriranih demokratov, republikancev in neodvisnih, ki v Pensilvaniji volijo. Na kakšnem vzorcu bi pa ti delal raziskavo?

NMH ::

nejclp je izjavil:


Raziskava je narejena na randomiziranem vzorcu tistih, ki volijo (so registrirani, ker drugače ne morejo voliti), zato realizirani vzorec odraža delež registriranih demokratov, republikancev in neodvisnih, ki v Pensilvaniji volijo. Na kakšnem vzorcu bi pa ti delal raziskavo?


Mhm.. torej greš k 47% demokratom in 40% republikancev in narediš anketo. Rezultat? Rabiš še kaj? Še ti ni nič jasno??

Pac-Man ::

NMH je izjavil:

Pa ti veš, kakšne ankete daješ tukaj?????
https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume...

Q1: Thank you. Which of the following categories best describes your current voting status? Are
you registered as a ______? (READ LIST)

1. Democrat…………………………………………………………… 47%
2. Republican…………………………………………………………..40%
3. Independent………………………………………………………… 11%
4. Other Party…………………………………………………………. 3%

7% točk več folka v tej anketi je registriranih Demokratov kot pa Republikancev.


Pomiri se. Zato se uporabi uteži.

Iz tvoje povezave:

The data has been weighted to gender, age, region, party, race and educational attainment to reflect voter population parameters.
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

nejclp ::

NMH je izjavil:

nejclp je izjavil:


Raziskava je narejena na randomiziranem vzorcu tistih, ki volijo (so registrirani, ker drugače ne morejo voliti), zato realizirani vzorec odraža delež registriranih demokratov, republikancev in neodvisnih, ki v Pensilvaniji volijo. Na kakšnem vzorcu bi pa ti delal raziskavo?


Mhm.. torej greš k 47% demokratom in 40% republikancev in narediš anketo. Rezultat? Rabiš še kaj? Še ti ni nič jasno??


Ne, ne greš, maš napisano metodologijo vzorčenja, preberi si. Vzorčenje je naključno, zato realizirani vzorec odraža dejanski delež demokratov in republikancev.

Dejmo osnovnošolsko:
Maš recimo v ribniku 1000 rib, ki se razlikuje le po barvi: 500 je rjavih, 500 pa rdečih, nekajkrat vržeš v ribnik mrežo in zajameš skupaj recimo 100 rib. Najverjetneje bo 50% rjavih, 50% pa rdečih. Če je od teh 1000 rib recimo 600 rdečih, 400 pa rjavih, boš pri 100 zajetih ribah ulovil 60% rdečih in 40% rjavih.

NMH ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:


Pomiri se. Zato se uporabi uteži.


A na 424 volilcev boš aplajal uteži? Ni čudn, da so rezultati anket neumni.

PS: +/- 5.5% at a 95% level of confidence

Pac-Man ::

Da, vse je znotraj intervala napake.

Zato ex republikanski svetovalec, zdaj never trumper pravi, da bodo demokrati s Sandersom pogoreli. In me ima, da bi mu verjel.

Po drugi strani pa je ex republikanski svetovalec, zdaj never trumper, s svojimi cilji.

1) odstranit Trumpa
2) minimizirat sunek v levo
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nejclp ::

NMH je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:


Pomiri se. Zato se uporabi uteži.


A na 424 volilcev boš aplajal uteži? Ni čudn, da so rezultati anket neumni.

PS: +/- 5.5% at a 95% level of confidence

Itak da se uteži, to je povsem standardno in optimalno, plus pri višjem vzorcu sta zgornja in spodnja meja intervala zaupanja sicer manj narazen, ampak ne toliko, da bi bilo to nujno.
lahko maš vzorec 3000 anketiranih, pa so rezultati manj zanesljivi kot vzorec 400 anketiranih, ki je dejansko naključen.
PLUS, ni neumnih rezultatov anket, obstajajo pa neumni ljudje.

NMH ::

nejclp je izjavil:


Itak da se uteži, to je povsem standardno in optimalno, plus pri višjem vzorcu sta zgornja in spodnja meja intervala zaupanja sicer manj narazen, ampak ne toliko, da bi bilo to nujno.
lahko maš vzorec 3000 anketiranih, pa so rezultati manj zanesljivi kot vzorec 400 anketiranih, ki je dejansko naključen.
PLUS, ni neumnih rezultatov anket, obstajajo pa neumni ljudje.


Itak, da ne delaš takšnih anket, kjer ti je možen razpon večji od pričakovane razlike med kandidati. +/- 5.5 pomeni razpon 11%. Čista bedarija in izguba časa.

Pac-Man ::

Kapitalizem.

Delaš ankete, ki jih je kdo pripravljen plačat.
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Sp3m ::

Edina prava anketa so volitve, vse ostalo je fake news.

Vazelin ::

Če ne bo vsaj drugi se Little Mike umakne po torku?
I got 99 problems but 4 usd XTZ ain't one.

Sp3m ::

Vazelin je izjavil:

Če ne bo vsaj drugi se Little Mike umakne po torku?


Mini Mike je rekel, da bo vztrajal do konca.

Vazelin ::

Aha torej tudi če popuši v torek bo še naprej trošil stotine mio dolarjev za reklamne namene?:D Dvomim, da mu bo bogataška in stiskaška nrav pustila to :D
I got 99 problems but 4 usd XTZ ain't one.

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Sp3m ::

Kako levičarski Reddit počasi uničuje največji Trump sub reddit.



Vazelin je izjavil:

Aha torej tudi če popuši v torek bo še naprej trošil stotine mio dolarjev za reklamne namene?:D Dvomim, da mu bo bogataška in stiskaška nrav pustila to :D


Mini Mike je zelo bogat in zapravil je že več kot 400 milijonov dolarjev za predsedniško kampanijo.

Na debati je celo razlagal kako je kupil sedeže demokratom.

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NMH ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Da, vse je znotraj intervala napake.
Zato ex republikanski svetovalec, zdaj never trumper pravi, da bodo demokrati s Sandersom pogoreli. In me ima, da bi mu verjel.
Po drugi strani pa je ex republikanski svetovalec, zdaj never trumper, s svojimi cilji.


Rick Wilson, right? Dont bother...

minimizirat sunek v levo


Too late. Bernie se je odločil, da torpedira Demokratsko stranko, namesto da bi ustanovil svojo.

Sp3m je izjavil:

Vazelin je izjavil:

Če ne bo vsaj drugi se Little Mike umakne po torku?


Mini Mike je rekel, da bo vztrajal do konca.


Plan je, da Bernie ne dobi večine glasov delegatov, ker v tem primeru vzamejo vse skupaj v roke superdelegati, ki potem podelijo kandidaturo tistemu, ki je njim všeč (brez skrbi, to ni Bernie).

Zgodovina sprememb…

  • spremenilo: NMH ()

Pac-Man ::

Ni res. Na strankarski konferenci bo nekaj podobnega kot kaukus.

Iz prejšnje runde:
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Sp3m ::

NMH je izjavil:


Plan je, da Bernie ne dobi večine glasov delegatov, ker v tem primeru vzamejo vse skupaj v roke superdelegati, ki potem podelijo kandidaturo tistemu, ki je njim všeč (brez skrbi, to ni Bernie).


Tega ne bo!

To se posluša pred vsakimi strankarskimi volitvami in se nikoli ne zgodi.


Realno gledano, če jutri "sleepy Joe" ne zmaga v Južni Karolini je zgodba zanj praktično končana.

Enako kakor, če "mini Mike" ne zmaga v super torek!


Sicer bi verjetno oba vztrajala še naprej in kak drugi kandidat tudi, samo realnih možnosti potem ni več!


In osebno ne verjamem, da bi si super delegati sploh upali vzeti pravico in vzeti glasove kandidata z večino in jih dati nekomu drugemu!


Bo pa v primeru zmage "crazy Bernieja" zelo zanimivo opazovati kaj se bo zgodilo z demokratsko stranko in kakšen bi bil rezultat na ameriških volitvah.

Sam ne verjamem, da bi bil rezultat nekje v smislu Nixon (520) - McGovern (17), ampak bi bil verjetno občutno bližje.

Sicer še vedno trdim, da bi zmagal Trump, samo ne s tako razliko!

Še bolj zanimivo, bi oz. bo opazovati, kaj se bo dogajalo z demokratsko stranko po teh volitvah, bodo šli še bolj v levo v smer "crazy Bernija" in AOC ali pa se bodo znormalizirali in prišli do "pameti" in se usmerili bolj v sredino!

NMH ::

Sp3m je izjavil:


Tega ne bo!
To se posluša pred vsakimi strankarskimi volitvami in se nikoli ne zgodi.


Kako ne? Nekaj podobnega je bilo leta 2016, ko so Berniju vzeli glasove in ker je Bernie cucek, je pač samo kimal.

Zgodovina sprememb…

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Miki N ::

Morate pa priznati, da so Trumpovi vzdevki za demokratske kandidate na nek način ne samo simpatični ampak tudi praktični! Po mojem se bodo vedno bolj uporabljali med "normiji", ker imajo neko tako... spevno dikcijo.

Pac-Man ::

Masačusets.

https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/...

#Massachusetts Democratic Primary Polling:

Sanders: 25% (+12)
Warren: 17% (-15)
Buttigieg: 14% (+7)
Bloomberg: 13% (+13)
Biden: 9% (-9)
Klobuchar: 6% (+5)
Steyer: 2% (+1)

MassInc / February 26, 2020 / n=426 / MOE 4.9% / Telephone

(% chg w Oct 20)
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