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Ukrajina Part II
Temo vidijo: vsi
Pithlit ::
Svoj mentalni doseg si že dokazala v Covid temah. Sicer bodo pa cepljeni v kratkem začeli odmirati. Sami od sebe...
Naslednjih 14 dni bo ključnih, kali? A lahko prosim za en okvirni datum? Glih tolk da zrihtam na banki da bivši nakažejo tiste 3 jurje za pogreb.
Life is as complicated as we make it...
mackilla ::
Svoj mentalni doseg si že dokazala v Covid temah. Sicer bodo pa cepljeni v kratkem začeli odmirati. Sami od sebe...
Naslednjih 14 dni bo ključnih, kali? A lahko prosim za en okvirni datum? Glih tolk da zrihtam na banki da bivši nakažejo tiste 3 jurje za pogreb.
Mene tudi zanima. Moram zrihtat oporoko in ostale zadeve.
Pithlit ::
Na kompost me ne sme vržt. I'm not biodegradable... I have a few screws loose.
Life is as complicated as we make it...
Voss ::
Danes po nocnem obstreljevanju spet polno mrtvih civilistov na več koncih.
Dexterček pa podpira tole denacifikacijo.
Predvidevam, da so umrli zaradi cepiva.
Dexterček pa podpira tole denacifikacijo.
Predvidevam, da so umrli zaradi cepiva.
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PrimoZ_ ::
Televizijski voditelj Marko Potrč je v svojem prvem videoposnetku po začetku vojne v Ukrajini opozoril, da se z "ruskim medvedom" ne gre šaliti, a je več govoril o Združenih državah Amerike, ki jih je označil za vojnega hujskača.
Ginekolog Stanko Pušenjak je na Facebooku medtem izrazil mnenje, da je vojna v Ukrajini le odvračanje pozornosti od pandemičnega načrta, ki ga domnevno pripravljata Svetovna zdravstvena organizacija in Svetovni gospodarski forum.
Pithlit ::
No on vsaj odkrito žonglira svojih 7 sivih celic. Nekateri si pa upajo trdit da civilnih žrtev ni. Da se civilistov ne cilja. Ker, filantropija.
Life is as complicated as we make it...
Voss ::
As of March 6, more than 1.7 million refugees have left Ukraine since Russia's full-scale invasion began on February 24, the U.N. refugee agency reports.
An additional 96,000 people moved to Russia from the Donetsk and Luhansk regions between Feb. 18-23.
Takole izleda tale odrešitev, ko večina beži v EU namesto v Rusijo. Še tistim 100k je verjetno žal. Rusofili, odprite oči.
An additional 96,000 people moved to Russia from the Donetsk and Luhansk regions between Feb. 18-23.
Takole izleda tale odrešitev, ko večina beži v EU namesto v Rusijo. Še tistim 100k je verjetno žal. Rusofili, odprite oči.
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Pithlit ::
Televizijski voditelj Marko Potrč je v svojem prvem videoposnetku po začetku vojne v Ukrajini opozoril, da se z "ruskim medvedom" ne gre šaliti, a je več govoril o Združenih državah Amerike, ki jih je označil za vojnega hujskača.
Ginekolog Stanko Pušenjak je na Facebooku medtem izrazil mnenje, da je vojna v Ukrajini le odvračanje pozornosti od pandemičnega načrta, ki ga domnevno pripravljata Svetovna zdravstvena organizacija in Svetovni gospodarski forum.
Ja sej, smo pogruntal. Nismo več rdeči pa beli, komunisti pa libertarci, levi pa desni. Smo sam še racionalni/neracionalni in vojni dobičkarji (kamor razni Potrčkoti spadajo, neracionalneži jim pa nasedajo).
Life is as complicated as we make it...
Unchancy ::
Ahhh še en antivakserček ki potrjuje da je antivax/prorus presek kar velik.
Svoj mentalni doseg si že dokazala v Covid temah. Sicer bodo pa cepljeni v kratkem začeli odmirati. Sami od sebe...
@l0g1t3ch; ne navijam za Putina. Spet "ad hominem" dialekt? Dajmo kaj bolj konstruktivnega.
Samo što nije. Ampak res, po mojem gre pri antivaxx/pro Putin ovčkah za neko mentalno težavo. Motnjo, ki prizadetim otežuje stik z realnostjo.
Škoda časa za ta režimski forum.
Pobrišite post, iz bunkerja vas že kličejo.
Adijo mod Rdeči Kmeri.
Pobrišite post, iz bunkerja vas že kličejo.
Adijo mod Rdeči Kmeri.
Voss ::
"I tell my relatives in Russia that we are being bombed, and they just don't believe me. They keep telling me it's impossible the Russians would do it, and that it must be the Nazis."
Yaroslav Trofimov
Yaroslav Trofimov
mackilla ::
Ahhh še en antivakserček ki potrjuje da je antivax/prorus presek kar velik.
Svoj mentalni doseg si že dokazala v Covid temah. Sicer bodo pa cepljeni v kratkem začeli odmirati. Sami od sebe...
@l0g1t3ch; ne navijam za Putina. Spet "ad hominem" dialekt? Dajmo kaj bolj konstruktivnega.
Samo što nije. Ampak res, po mojem gre pri antivaxx/pro Putin ovčkah za neko mentalno težavo. Motnjo, ki prizadetim otežuje stik z realnostjo.
Bolj za inteligenčni deficit in posredno dovzetnost za teorije zarote. En je včeraj napisal,da so Američani v Normandijo poslali arestante iz zaporov. Vse divizije v prvem valu so bile sestavljene iz zapornikov,ki so se jih Američani hoteli znebiti. A Je mogoče,da si še bolj nor?
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Aston_11 ::
Ahhh še en antivakserček ki potrjuje da je antivax/prorus presek kar velik.
Svoj mentalni doseg si že dokazala v Covid temah. Sicer bodo pa cepljeni v kratkem začeli odmirati. Sami od sebe...
@l0g1t3ch; ne navijam za Putina. Spet "ad hominem" dialekt? Dajmo kaj bolj konstruktivnega.
Samo što nije. Ampak res, po mojem gre pri antivaxx/pro Putin ovčkah za neko mentalno težavo. Motnjo, ki prizadetim otežuje stik z realnostjo.
Imajo motnjo pri odločanju, kaj je prav in kaj ni. Pobijanje ljudi npr. ni prav (tudi če to počne putin). S tem pridemo v rusofilsko sfero, če je prav, da isto počnejo Ukrajinci, ko jih nacist naci Putin radira. Oziroma trenutna rusofilska dilema je ali draga nafta ali svoboda ukrajincev. Ne pridejo skozi ta mentalni zaplet. Najebali ga bomo itak vsi, videli bomo le, koliko.
l0g1t3ch ::
Televizijski voditelj Marko Potrč je v svojem prvem videoposnetku po začetku vojne v Ukrajini opozoril, da se z "ruskim medvedom" ne gre šaliti, a je več govoril o Združenih državah Amerike, ki jih je označil za vojnega hujskača.
Ginekolog Stanko Pušenjak je na Facebooku medtem izrazil mnenje, da je vojna v Ukrajini le odvračanje pozornosti od pandemičnega načrta, ki ga domnevno pripravljata Svetovna zdravstvena organizacija in Svetovni gospodarski forum.
Na oboje nasedajo labilni ljudje z raznimi mentalnimi težavmi.
Sej ni razlike ali verjame v zarote okoli cepiv ali pa če verjame v zarote o zlobnih amerikancih. Pač niso se sposobni spoprijet s svetom okoli njih in potem bežijo v pravljice, YT je pa itak neskončni vir filmčkov s teorijami zarot.
Dodaten problem so pa še današnji algoritmi vseh teh socialnih orežj, ki te zapirajo v mehurček, ko ti nudijo točno tisto, kar tebi ustreza. Potem se pa takemu mentalnem revežu zdi, da ia res prav in da je svet točno tak kot si je on zamislil. Konec koncev mu to potrjuje vsebina njegovega mehurčka.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/ulrichspeck/status/...
Many people are thinking about potential compromises leading to peace in Ukraine.
Yet to understand what's at stake for Putin one must keep in mind that this war didn't start in 2022, it started in 2014.
For Putin, destroying Ukraine's independence has become an obsession.
If it were just about Ukraine's status, a compromise would be at least thinkable. If Russia would feel threatened by Ukraine, there could be ways to deal with it.
Many people have picked up the arguments coming from the Kremlin, or think of Putin's war in terms of "realist" political logic. Yet this is misleading.
Putin has often said, and even written, that Ukraine is not a separate nation, and should not exist as a sovereign state.
It is this fundamental denial that has led Putin to wage this totally senseless war that he cannot win.
And that leads us to the problem of making peace: either Ukraine has the right to exist as a nation and a sovereign state, or it hasn't.
Sovereignty is indivisible. Putin denies it, Ukraine defends it.
How can you make a compromise about the existence of Ukraine as a sovereign state? Impossible.
That's why both sides can only fight on until they win.
Normally wars take place between states are about conflicts they have between them.
Yet this is a war about the existence of one state, which is denied by the aggressor.
That's why the usual concepts of peacemaking -- finding a compromise -- do not a apply.
If Ukraine continues to exist as a sovereign state, Putin will have lost.
He is not interested in territorial gain as such -- it's rather a burden for him.
He is only interested in controlling the entire country. Everything else for him is defeat.
In 2015, Putin has taken territory only as an instrument to further advance his claim to control the country, in the context of Minsk II.
It was just his territorial base inside Ukraine, a tool to move ahead with his goal which remained unchanged.
Many people are thinking about potential compromises leading to peace in Ukraine.
Yet to understand what's at stake for Putin one must keep in mind that this war didn't start in 2022, it started in 2014.
For Putin, destroying Ukraine's independence has become an obsession.
If it were just about Ukraine's status, a compromise would be at least thinkable. If Russia would feel threatened by Ukraine, there could be ways to deal with it.
Many people have picked up the arguments coming from the Kremlin, or think of Putin's war in terms of "realist" political logic. Yet this is misleading.
Putin has often said, and even written, that Ukraine is not a separate nation, and should not exist as a sovereign state.
It is this fundamental denial that has led Putin to wage this totally senseless war that he cannot win.
And that leads us to the problem of making peace: either Ukraine has the right to exist as a nation and a sovereign state, or it hasn't.
Sovereignty is indivisible. Putin denies it, Ukraine defends it.
How can you make a compromise about the existence of Ukraine as a sovereign state? Impossible.
That's why both sides can only fight on until they win.
Normally wars take place between states are about conflicts they have between them.
Yet this is a war about the existence of one state, which is denied by the aggressor.
That's why the usual concepts of peacemaking -- finding a compromise -- do not a apply.
If Ukraine continues to exist as a sovereign state, Putin will have lost.
He is not interested in territorial gain as such -- it's rather a burden for him.
He is only interested in controlling the entire country. Everything else for him is defeat.
In 2015, Putin has taken territory only as an instrument to further advance his claim to control the country, in the context of Minsk II.
It was just his territorial base inside Ukraine, a tool to move ahead with his goal which remained unchanged.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
gazibo ::
blek pavr renđerja baje nocjo spustit v jukrejn ko je prsu na mejo, ampak poba prav da je in good spirit. hoce bit na vsak nacin del tistih par deset prostovoljcev k so prsl brant jukrejn
bwahahaha
bwahahaha
mackilla ::
Televizijski voditelj Marko Potrč je v svojem prvem videoposnetku po začetku vojne v Ukrajini opozoril, da se z "ruskim medvedom" ne gre šaliti, a je več govoril o Združenih državah Amerike, ki jih je označil za vojnega hujskača.
Ginekolog Stanko Pušenjak je na Facebooku medtem izrazil mnenje, da je vojna v Ukrajini le odvračanje pozornosti od pandemičnega načrta, ki ga domnevno pripravljata Svetovna zdravstvena organizacija in Svetovni gospodarski forum.
Na oboje nasedajo labilni ljudje z raznimi mentalnimi težavmi.
Sej ni razlike ali verjame v zarote okoli cepiv ali pa če verjame v zarote o zlobnih amerikancih. Pač niso se sposobni spoprijet s svetom okoli njih in potem bežijo v pravljice, YT je pa itak neskončni vir filmčkov s teorijami zarot.
Dodaten problem so pa še današnji algoritmi vseh teh socialnih orežj, ki te zapirajo v mehurček, ko ti nudijo točno tisto, kar tebi ustreza. Potem se pa takemu mentalnem revežu zdi, da ia res prav in da je svet točno tak kot si je on zamislil. Konec koncev mu to potrjuje vsebina njegovega mehurčka.
This pretty much sums it up.
blek pavr renđerja baje nocjo spustit v jukrejn ko je prsu na mejo, ampak poba prav da je in good spirit. hoce bit na vsak nacin del tistih par deset prostovoljcev k so prsl brant jukrejn
bwahahaha
To je tvoja profilna slika?
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tetriandoch ::
Po trenutnem stanju se vidi, da je strmoglavljenje elit nemogoče. V množici je preveč butalcev. Pogoltnejo vse, kar servira propagandni kuhar. Ta isti so verjetno včeraj spraznili bencinske črpalke. Bodo tako glasni kot so sedaj proti ruisji, tudi ko bo bencin 3€?
PrimoZ_ ::
tetriandoch je izjavil:
Po trenutnem stanju se vidi, da je strmoglavljenje elit nemogoče. V množici je preveč butalcev. Pogoltnejo vse, kar servira propagandni kuhar. Ta isti so verjetno včeraj spraznili bencinske črpalke. Bodo tako glasni kot so sedaj proti ruisji, tudi ko bo bencin 3€?
O glej še en mentalni revež.
Sem pričakoval da bo bolj prazna tema, da ste že vsi sklenili živ zid okoli Zelenskega.
A že navijaš da ga ustrelijo ? Ziher je nacist :)
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PrimoZ_ ::
voss_ ::
He is only interested in controlling the entire country. Everything else for him is defeat.
A to je ta nov cope&seeth? Še včeraj je Zelenjaki že obkolil Moskvo in Ghost of Kijev patruljiral celo Rusijo, danes pa že da bo Putin izgubil če ne nadzira vsakega zrnca na ozemlju Ukrajine.
Velik preobrat v kratkem času.
Cveto ::
V Donbassu je res že 8 let vojna in 8 let jih napadajo ukrajinske sile. A res je tudi, da tam že od druge svetovne vojne, če ne od prej, poteka "rusifikacija" in etnično čiščenje. Potem se ne čudim, da prihaja do neki naci skupin. Rusi so že dolgo nazaj spoznali, da se Ukrajinci ne bodo dali kar imeti za "dneprske ruse" in so se namenili, da za večno k sebi pripeljejo vsaj bogati industrijski Donbass.
gazibo ::
He is only interested in controlling the entire country. Everything else for him is defeat.
A to je ta nov cope&seeth? Še včeraj je Zelenjaki že obkolil Moskvo in Ghost of Kijev patruljiral celo Rusijo, danes pa že da bo Putin izgubil če ne nadzira vsakega zrnca na ozemlju Ukrajine.
Velik preobrat v kratkem času.
A slucajn dvoms ? Ce pa je objavljen na twitterju, kjer je vse zmer truth lol
voss_ ::
Ziher je nacist :)
A, še zmeraj ni nacijev tam? Resno, še zmeraj ste pri temu?
Kaj 14 pomeni se moramo tudi pretvarjat da ne vemo?
Watch Yevhen Karas the leader of Ukraine's neo-Nazi terror gang C14's speech from Kiev earlier this month. Straight from the horses' mouth, he dispels the many narratives pushed by the left, the mainstream media and the State Department.
He claims:
- Ukraine is being armed as pawns of the West because "we have fun killing"
- "We have started a war"
- "We have the most Javelins on the European continent"
- The European family has already collapsed
- Maidan would've been a "gay parade" if not for Nazi
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealAlexRubi...
kow ::
Putin se res trudi, da bi bilo v Ukrajini in Evropi cim vec nacijev. Pomoje jih bo po tej vojni se ene 10x vec.
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Pac-Man ::
Enemu "Z"jevcu so v Kostromi prerezali gume in kot pravi sam razbili steklo, video
https://twitter.com/M_EzhoFF/status/150...
https://twitter.com/M_EzhoFF/status/150...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
gazibo ::
V Donbassu je res že 8 let vojna in 8 let jih napadajo ukrajinske sile. A res je tudi, da tam že od druge svetovne vojne, če ne od prej, poteka "rusifikacija" in etnično čiščenje. Potem se ne čudim, da prihaja do neki naci skupin. Rusi so že dolgo nazaj spoznali, da se Ukrajinci ne bodo dali kar imeti za "dneprske ruse" in so se namenili, da za večno k sebi pripeljejo vsaj bogati industrijski Donbass.
kako poteka rusifikacija, ce je pa to senkano ukrajini pred nekaj desestletji s strani rusov ? A v krimu tut poteka rusifikacija ? Ukrajina brez pomoci rusije je velka za dva vatikana
PrimoZ_ ::
Ziher je nacist :)
A, še zmeraj ni nacijev tam? Resno, še zmeraj ste pri temu?
...kup neumnosti...
Dej povej kje se najdeš tule, da te bolje razumemo.
Televizijski voditelj Marko Potrč je v svojem prvem videoposnetku po začetku vojne v Ukrajini opozoril, da se z "ruskim medvedom" ne gre šaliti, a je več govoril o Združenih državah Amerike, ki jih je označil za vojnega hujskača.
Ginekolog Stanko Pušenjak je na Facebooku medtem izrazil mnenje, da je vojna v Ukrajini le odvračanje pozornosti od pandemičnega načrta, ki ga domnevno pripravljata Svetovna zdravstvena organizacija in Svetovni gospodarski forum.
Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
gazibo ::
The Russian Armed Forces have captured one of the tank bases in central Ukraine.
The equipment was recently removed from storage for participation in hostilities against the RF Armed Forces and is fully equipped. Now the Ukrainian tanks have been towed to the Russian military base and will soon enter the battle against the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
kow ::
V Donbassu je res že 8 let vojna in 8 let jih napadajo ukrajinske sile. A res je tudi, da tam že od druge svetovne vojne, če ne od prej, poteka "rusifikacija" in etnično čiščenje. Potem se ne čudim, da prihaja do neki naci skupin. Rusi so že dolgo nazaj spoznali, da se Ukrajinci ne bodo dali kar imeti za "dneprske ruse" in so se namenili, da za večno k sebi pripeljejo vsaj bogati industrijski Donbass.
kako poteka rusifikacija, ce je pa to senkano ukrajini pred nekaj desestletji s strani rusov ? A v krimu tut poteka rusifikacija ? Ukrajina brez pomoci rusije je velka za dva vatikana
V resnici je vecina Rusije senkane s strani Ukrajine. Kdo pa mislis, da se je boril za ruski imperij. V moskvi so sedeli v palacah, boril se je pa narod na obrobju -> ukrajinci.
voss_ ::
endelin ::
Putinov naslednik bo imel težko delo. Sploh ker bo šlo polovica plina Ukrajini kot vojna odškodnina
Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
voss_ ::
AtaŠtumf ::
"He is making a brave face and is very happy for all the response from western social media and diferent forums, but in reality he is devastated as he knows the jig is up, all western propaganda has added a few sanctions and blockades of social media and a few thousand foreign soldiers, but US and its allies are still buying oil and gas from Russia and Russian soldiers are close to victory. Biden has been telling him, US and NATO will help, but it was all lies. The only thing which brings him some joy is, that people on Internet are calling him a hero with brass balls."
An unnamed close confidant of president Zelensky.
An unnamed close confidant of president Zelensky.
voss_ ::
mackilla ::
Ziher je nacist :)
A, še zmeraj ni nacijev tam? Resno, še zmeraj ste pri temu?
Kaj 14 pomeni se moramo tudi pretvarjat da ne vemo?
Watch Yevhen Karas the leader of Ukraine's neo-Nazi terror gang C14's speech from Kiev earlier this month. Straight from the horses' mouth, he dispels the many narratives pushed by the left, the mainstream media and the State Department.
He claims:
- Ukraine is being armed as pawns of the West because "we have fun killing"
- "We have started a war"
- "We have the most Javelins on the European continent"
- The European family has already collapsed
- Maidan would've been a "gay parade" if not for Nazi
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealAlexRubi...
Povej mi. A so ti tako imenovani "naciji" v tem trenutku z tabo v sobi? A imaš kdaj občutek,da ljudje vedo kaj misliš? Slišiš glasove,ki te opozarjajo in ti grozijo?
gazibo ::
slava ukra...benz 2EUR/l, fak dis šiat
Units of the People's Militia of the DPR established control over the Osoaviakhim quarter in Mariupol.
Units of the People's Militia of the DPR established control over the Osoaviakhim quarter in Mariupol.
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PrimoZ_ ::
kow ::
slava ukra...benz 2EUR/l, fak dis šiat
Units of the People's Militia of the DPR established control over the Osoaviakhim quarter in Mariupol.
Mislis ruska vojska. "people's milita". Lol
Kolk moras bit neumen, da ponavljas te neumnosti.
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Kebo ::
Tale cena bo začasna, Američani bodo spet začel frackat na polno, ker bo kmalu spet profitabilno. Verjetno bo pa kmalu spet dogovor z Iranom. Pač naslednjo leto se bomo mal mn vozil okoli.
gazibo ::
