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Ukrajina Part II
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Darkjaar ::
Reuters: Russia won't demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments, Kremlin says
Nič ne bo z rublji za plin
Reuters: Russia won't demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments, Kremlin says
Kaj nič ne bo? a si sploh prebral naslov?
Včeraj: Russia will demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments.
Danes: Russia won’t demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments.
Mesec pozneje: Russia won’t demand switch to rouble gas payments.
5 let pozneje: Russia begs for gas payments.
AtaŠtumf ::
Reuters: Russia won't demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments, Kremlin says
Nič ne bo z rublji za plin
Reuters: Russia won't demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments, Kremlin says
Kaj nič ne bo? a si sploh prebral naslov?
Včeraj: Russia will demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments.
Danes: Russia won’t demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments.
Mesec pozneje: Russia won’t demand switch to rouble gas payments.
5 let pozneje: Russia begs for gas payments.
10 let pozneje: Russia begs for gas payments, while whole EU is freezing.
fur80 ::
Reuters: Russia won't demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments, Kremlin says
Nič ne bo z rublji za plin
Reuters: Russia won't demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments, Kremlin says
Kaj nič ne bo? a si sploh prebral naslov?
Včeraj: Russia will demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments.
Danes: Russia won’t demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments.
Mesec pozneje: Russia won’t demand switch to rouble gas payments.
5 let pozneje: Russia begs for gas payments.
10 let pozneje: Russia begs for gas payments, while whole EU is freezing.
Govorite kot, da se že celo življenje grejemo na račun Rusije in da smo predtem umirali od mraza in lahkote! Mogoče leta 45, pa še takrat ne pomoje! Lepo je bilo sodelovanje z Rusijo, so imeli oboji kaj od tega, dokler diktatorčku niso zrastla krila, sedaj jih bo pa treba porezati!
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Scaramouche ::
Govorite kot, da se že celo življenje grejemo na račun Rusije in da smo predtem umirali od mraza in lahkote! Mogoče leta 45, pa še takrat ne pomoje!
Ameri so lepo poskrbeli da so prvo desetletja forsirali NATO Ukrajini ter Ruse forsirali v spopad ker so hoteli nuklearne baze na rusko govoročem ozemlju obrnjene proti Rusiji!
Potem pa gledali brez pomoči ker so tudi leta 1994 odvzeli Ukrajini z memorandumom!
Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances @ Wikipedia
Tako Ukrajina ni imela moči da zagotovi varnost, ki jo je Amerika obljubila.
Amerika nam bo seveda pomagala, ko bo postala večinski partner pri dobavi plina, tako nam je naredila uslugo,ker zdaj Rusiji ne bo treba to delati.
Kako nesebično od Amerov!
fur80 ::
Scaramouche je izjavil:
Govorite kot, da se že celo življenje grejemo na račun Rusije in da smo predtem umirali od mraza in lahkote! Mogoče leta 45, pa še takrat ne pomoje!
Ameri so lepo poskrbeli da so prvo desetletja forsirali NATO Ukrajini ter Ruse forsirali v spopad ker so hoteli nuklearne baze na rusko govoročem ozemlju obrnjene proti Rusiji!
Potem pa gledali brez pomoči ker so tudi leta 1994 odvzeli Ukrajini z memorandumom!
Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances @ Wikipedia
Tako Ukrajina ni imela moči da zagotovi varnost, ki jo je Amerika obljubila.
Amerika nam bo seveda pomagala, ko bo postala večinski partner pri dobavi plina, tako nam je naredila uslugo,ker zdaj Rusiji ne bo treba to delati.
Kako nesebično od Amerov!
To o jederskih bazah je lari fari, so že povedali vojaški analitiki, da imajo Rusi in Američani parkirane podmornice drug pred drugo obalo in bi od tam napadli ne pa iz nekega fiksnega ozemlja, npr. iz Ukrajine v Rusijo in da je to sedaj najbolj pomembno, da se približajo državi! Revna Ukrajina se je hotela obrniti na zahod, ker od Rusije tako nima kaj oz. caplajo zadaj, seveda pa Ptulerju to ne paše! Američani seveda vedno pristavijo lonček, dokler so v kapitalizmu, izkoriščajo pa neumnost Rusije, na konci je vendarle Putko sprožil bombe in ne USA.
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scythe ::
Ukrajinci imeli čistilno akcijo, cigani čakajo za prevzem/odvoz odpadnega jekla
Yesterday artillery of 58th brigade destroyed follow Russian hardware:
2xKamAZ (destroyed)
1xTigr (destroyed)
2x2S19 (1 damaged and 1 destroyed)
1xBREM (damaged )
3xBTR (damaged)
1xGAZ66 (damaged)
1xBMP (destroyed )
1xIMR (damaged)
1xKamAZ evacuator(destroyed)
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta...
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta...
The members of the "Freedom of Russia" have training on new weapon systems. The "Freedom of Russia" unit is consist of Russian POW who wish to fighting against Russia.
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta...
Yesterday artillery of 58th brigade destroyed follow Russian hardware:
2xKamAZ (destroyed)
1xTigr (destroyed)
2x2S19 (1 damaged and 1 destroyed)
1xBREM (damaged )
3xBTR (damaged)
1xGAZ66 (damaged)
1xBMP (destroyed )
1xIMR (damaged)
1xKamAZ evacuator(destroyed)
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta...
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta...
The members of the "Freedom of Russia" have training on new weapon systems. The "Freedom of Russia" unit is consist of Russian POW who wish to fighting against Russia.
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta...
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Pac-Man ::
Reportaža iz Harkiva. Putka se je resno zakalkuliral.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl...
Before hostilities, many in the northeastern Ukrainian city empathised with Russia. Now, after weeks of shelling, views have changed. Kim Sengupta, who reported from Kharkiv before the conflict, returns to a city transformed
...
“The day after he buried our mother he went to Slovyansk [in the Donbas] and joined the army.
We are defending our country, our people, our families, our community, we are also avenging those who had been killed,”says Aleksandr.
“We hear talk of negotiations, but we’ll keep on fighting the invaders until we get real peace with the invaders leaving out [our?] country.”
...
The concept in these parts of the ‘the family, the community, the people’ is going through a painful re-evaluation.
...
Around 74 per cent of Kharkiv’s 1.4 million population are Russian speakers.
Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, claimed before the conflict began that Moscow could try to seize the city under the pretext of “protecting” these people – an act which “will be the beginning of a large-scale war”.
...
There were at least some Russian speakers who had declared that they would never take up arms against Russia.
One of them angrily told me when I visited the city a month before the war that “it is unthinkable for me and my friends to pick up a gun and start fighting the Russians.
We have lived together all our lives and now there are people who are trying to turn us into enemies and start a bloodbath”.
Kiril Semenov, a 48-year-old electrical engineer accused the US and the West of using Ukraine as a proxy against Russia.
“And if the fighting does start, will Nato come here to fight the Russians? Of course not, they have already said they would not,” he wanted to point out.
Mr Semenov has not picked up a gun, but he is now part of a citizens group distributing food to Ukrainian forces, and people in need, as well as clearing up with after missile and artillery strikes.
“I was right wasn’t I in saying that Nato will not come to fight beside Ukraine? We Ukrainians have to help ourselves. I still think the war could have been avoidable,” Mr Semenov says.
“But nothing justifies this kind of bombardment, the killing of ordinary people, like those who lived in that building,” he says pointing at the wreckage of a 10-storey residential block in Nemyshlianskyi, the district where he lives. Eight people died in the attack.
...
It is one of the tragic ironies of President Putin’s ‘war of liberation’ that two largely Russian speaking cities - Mariupol and Kharkiv - have taken the worst pounding.
The result, say residents, is that instead of being welcomed, Russian forces have faced defiant resistance.
...
The mayor acknowledges that “before the war started, almost one in four was in contact with relatives, acquaintances, and many friends in Russia. Kharkiv has always been considered more or less loyal to Russia.
Today the attitude to Russia, the aggressor, has changed dramatically, each of us is ready to defend the city to the end”.
Oleg Posohov, the Master Sergeant of the Cossack Battalion, comments: “The Russians create their version of history, and then get angry when it doesn’t match with reality.
The people of Kharkiv were never simply going to stand doing nothing and let Putin’s troops come in.
“I would say about 30 per cent of the population here were Russian sympathisers, 25 per cent of them are now committed to Ukraine,” says Sergeant Posohov.
“There are some spies and saboteurs among the remaining five per cent; we have caught some of them, they were passing on information and photos to the Russians to help them bomb and also to try and get into the city.”
...
“Judging by their poor performance in this war, not a lot has changed, there is a lot of corruption and inefficiency. I maintained contact in the Russian military for a while, and they spent more time on ceremonial duties than on fighting practice,” says Commander Supareka.
...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl...
Before hostilities, many in the northeastern Ukrainian city empathised with Russia. Now, after weeks of shelling, views have changed. Kim Sengupta, who reported from Kharkiv before the conflict, returns to a city transformed
...
“The day after he buried our mother he went to Slovyansk [in the Donbas] and joined the army.
We are defending our country, our people, our families, our community, we are also avenging those who had been killed,”says Aleksandr.
“We hear talk of negotiations, but we’ll keep on fighting the invaders until we get real peace with the invaders leaving out [our?] country.”
...
The concept in these parts of the ‘the family, the community, the people’ is going through a painful re-evaluation.
...
Around 74 per cent of Kharkiv’s 1.4 million population are Russian speakers.
Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, claimed before the conflict began that Moscow could try to seize the city under the pretext of “protecting” these people – an act which “will be the beginning of a large-scale war”.
...
There were at least some Russian speakers who had declared that they would never take up arms against Russia.
One of them angrily told me when I visited the city a month before the war that “it is unthinkable for me and my friends to pick up a gun and start fighting the Russians.
We have lived together all our lives and now there are people who are trying to turn us into enemies and start a bloodbath”.
Kiril Semenov, a 48-year-old electrical engineer accused the US and the West of using Ukraine as a proxy against Russia.
“And if the fighting does start, will Nato come here to fight the Russians? Of course not, they have already said they would not,” he wanted to point out.
Mr Semenov has not picked up a gun, but he is now part of a citizens group distributing food to Ukrainian forces, and people in need, as well as clearing up with after missile and artillery strikes.
“I was right wasn’t I in saying that Nato will not come to fight beside Ukraine? We Ukrainians have to help ourselves. I still think the war could have been avoidable,” Mr Semenov says.
“But nothing justifies this kind of bombardment, the killing of ordinary people, like those who lived in that building,” he says pointing at the wreckage of a 10-storey residential block in Nemyshlianskyi, the district where he lives. Eight people died in the attack.
...
It is one of the tragic ironies of President Putin’s ‘war of liberation’ that two largely Russian speaking cities - Mariupol and Kharkiv - have taken the worst pounding.
The result, say residents, is that instead of being welcomed, Russian forces have faced defiant resistance.
...
The mayor acknowledges that “before the war started, almost one in four was in contact with relatives, acquaintances, and many friends in Russia. Kharkiv has always been considered more or less loyal to Russia.
Today the attitude to Russia, the aggressor, has changed dramatically, each of us is ready to defend the city to the end”.
Oleg Posohov, the Master Sergeant of the Cossack Battalion, comments: “The Russians create their version of history, and then get angry when it doesn’t match with reality.
The people of Kharkiv were never simply going to stand doing nothing and let Putin’s troops come in.
“I would say about 30 per cent of the population here were Russian sympathisers, 25 per cent of them are now committed to Ukraine,” says Sergeant Posohov.
“There are some spies and saboteurs among the remaining five per cent; we have caught some of them, they were passing on information and photos to the Russians to help them bomb and also to try and get into the city.”
...
“Judging by their poor performance in this war, not a lot has changed, there is a lot of corruption and inefficiency. I maintained contact in the Russian military for a while, and they spent more time on ceremonial duties than on fighting practice,” says Commander Supareka.
...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Notnow ::
Reuters: Russia won't demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments, Kremlin says
Nič ne bo z rublji za plin
Reuters: Russia won't demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments, Kremlin says
Kaj nič ne bo? a si sploh prebral naslov?
Včeraj: Russia will demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments.
Danes: Russia won’t demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments.
Mesec pozneje: Russia won’t demand switch to rouble gas payments.
5 let pozneje: Russia begs for gas payments.
10 let pozneje: Russia begs for gas payments, while whole EU is freezing.
Govorite kot, da se že celo življenje grejemo na račun Rusije in da smo predtem umirali od mraza in lahkote! Mogoče leta 45, pa še takrat ne pomoje! Lepo je bilo sodelovanje z Rusijo, so imeli oboji kaj od tega, dokler diktatorčku niso zrastla krila, sedaj jih bo pa treba porezati!
A to ste vi potegnal iz tega članka? haha svašta
janezjansa_ ::
Upam da se čim prej uvede sistem socialnega kredita in točk, bomo videli kdo bo potem še upal podpirati Rusko stran!
#slavaukrajini
#slavaukrajini
mackilla ::
janezjansa_ je izjavil:
Upam da se čim prej uvede sistem socialnega kredita in točk, bomo videli kdo bo potem še upal podpirati Rusko stran!
#slavaukrajini
Stremetski,že spet si zamenjal?
si že našel koliko evrov je naprintala Evropska unija? Scaramouche ::
To o jederskih bazah je lari fari, so že povedali vojaški analitiki, da imajo Rusi in Američani parkirane podmornice drug pred drugo obalo in bi od tam napadli ne pa iz nekega fiksnega ozemlja,
Seveda ,zato pa imajo Ameri po celem svetu in sploh EU toliko baz!
izkoriščajo pa neumnost Rusije, na konci je vendarle Putko sprožil bombe in ne USA.
To je res tukaj imaš prav, oni izkoriščajo ne samo Rusijo ampak tudi nas in nas vlečejo v spopad ki bo lahko potencialno nuklearen!
Nisi pa nič omenil memorandum kjer so Ukrajincem odvzeli nuklearno orožje in s tem Ruse ohromili napada, zanimivo...
koyotee ::
Nafte je očitno dovolj https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News...
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Pac-Man ::
Ukrajinec, s fronte vloga v konkretno dobri Angleščini.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
TezkoDihanje ::
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/stat...
NEW: "We believe that Putin is being misinformed by his advisors about how badly the Russian military is performing and how the Russian economy is being crippled by sanctions," a US official tells me, "because his senior advisors are too afraid to tell him the truth."
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/stat...
NEW: "We have information that Putin felt misled by the Russian military," the U.S. official tells me. "There is now persistent tension between Putin and the MOD (Ministry of Defense), stemming from Putin's mistrust in MOD leadership."
NEW: "We believe that Putin is being misinformed by his advisors about how badly the Russian military is performing and how the Russian economy is being crippled by sanctions," a US official tells me, "because his senior advisors are too afraid to tell him the truth."
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/stat...
NEW: "We have information that Putin felt misled by the Russian military," the U.S. official tells me. "There is now persistent tension between Putin and the MOD (Ministry of Defense), stemming from Putin's mistrust in MOD leadership."
PrimoZ_ ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/stat...
NEW: "We have information that Putin felt misled by the Russian military," the U.S. official tells me. "There is now persistent tension between Putin and the MOD (Ministry of Defense), stemming from Putin's mistrust in MOD leadership."
na misel mi pride Sergei Shoigu, res so pokazali nek posnetek par dni nazaj, da naj bi bil živ in zdrav, pa vseeno...
TezkoDihanje ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/stat...
NEW: "We have information that Putin felt misled by the Russian military," the U.S. official tells me. "There is now persistent tension between Putin and the MOD (Ministry of Defense), stemming from Putin's mistrust in MOD leadership."
na misel mi pride Sergei Shoigu, res so pokazali nek posnetek par dni nazaj, da naj bi bil živ in zdrav, pa vseeno...
Po moje Putin ni vedel, da so v enotah tudi naborniki.
Cveto ::
Rusi sploh ne vejo, kako so se zafrknili z vsem tem, ne samo lokalno, pač pa tudi globalno. Prej so uspeli furati nek mit, da so ne vem kakšna nepremagljiva vojska, zdaj jih pa že relativno majhna in zaostala Ukrajina lepo drži nazaj. Vsi ti njihovi "wunderwaffe" so vredni približno tako kot Hitlerjeva orožja: tudi V2 ni mogel nihče zaustaviti, pa ni zmagala vojne, prav tako je ni ME-262, še manj jo bo Su-57, kateri so operativni trije (3).
Še glede nuklearnega orožja je vprašanje, koliko so zadeve operativne. Ko so po sporazumih SALT in ostalih zmanjševali število konic, so mednarodni preiskovalci ugotovili, da je bilo v ogromno silosih voda, transporterji niso vžgali in podobno. Še od podmornic je bila komaj katera dovolj preskrbljena, da bi zmogla daljše izplutje.
Ruski proračun je 60 miljard dolarjev, ameriški pa 776 miljard. Samo vrednost programa F35 je 332 miljard. Rusi pač tukaj ne morejo konkurirati in so lahko velesila samo res lokalno.
NATO bo kmalu imel 1000 lovcev pete generacije na enega ruskega.
Edino, kar še ostane, so tiste nukice, ki bi dejansko poletele, pa da so na hipersoničnih raketah oziroma na eni od par preostalih strateških podmornic.
Še glede nuklearnega orožja je vprašanje, koliko so zadeve operativne. Ko so po sporazumih SALT in ostalih zmanjševali število konic, so mednarodni preiskovalci ugotovili, da je bilo v ogromno silosih voda, transporterji niso vžgali in podobno. Še od podmornic je bila komaj katera dovolj preskrbljena, da bi zmogla daljše izplutje.
Ruski proračun je 60 miljard dolarjev, ameriški pa 776 miljard. Samo vrednost programa F35 je 332 miljard. Rusi pač tukaj ne morejo konkurirati in so lahko velesila samo res lokalno.
NATO bo kmalu imel 1000 lovcev pete generacije na enega ruskega.
Edino, kar še ostane, so tiste nukice, ki bi dejansko poletele, pa da so na hipersoničnih raketah oziroma na eni od par preostalih strateških podmornic.
dice7 ::
O RLY? V Rusiji je pa Facebook banan... ur point exactly? Da v zahodnem svetu prakticiramo nacizem in smo dvolični za bruhat, to že vem
Da tvoji telegram kanali producirajo govno. Social media ni samo facebook. Menda ja ne verjames da so tvoji 4chan sogovorniki iskreni ljudje
Mimogrede
Russia won't demand immediate switch to rouble gas payments, Kremlin says.
To je ta mogocna rusija ki bojda celo evropo drzi za jajca
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bbbbbb2015 ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/stat...
NEW: "We have information that Putin felt misled by the Russian military," the U.S. official tells me. "There is now persistent tension between Putin and the MOD (Ministry of Defense), stemming from Putin's mistrust in MOD leadership."
na misel mi pride Sergei Shoigu, res so pokazali nek posnetek par dni nazaj, da naj bi bil živ in zdrav, pa vseeno...
Po moje Putin ni vedel, da so v enotah tudi naborniki.
Saj si verjetno prebral izjave ruskih "kontraktnikov" - da so bili naborniki, misleč, da gredo na vaje. Nakar so jim pomolili pogodbo pod nos - podpiši.
Saj tak program je imela tudi JNA. Tu in tam se je našel kdo, ki je bil nabornik, pa so ga kar zaposlili, če je imel željo. Ponavadi so ga poslali v podoficirsko šolo, če je to želel.
Recimo šoferje tankovskih vlačilcev so radi zaposlili v JNA, če je kdo imel željo.
sir_mha ::
Vloga Kitajske bo verjetno aktualna šele, ko se pomiri situacija na bojišču, ko se najde neka politična rešitev.
In takrat bo informacija spodaj postala bolj aktualna. Soros ima vsekakor dobre informante, ne bi dvomil njegovim informacijam.
https://www.project-syndicate.org/comme...
In takrat bo informacija spodaj postala bolj aktualna. Soros ima vsekakor dobre informante, ne bi dvomil njegovim informacijam.
Russia's invasion of Ukraine on February 24 was the beginning of a third world war that has the potential to destroy our civilization. The invasion was preceded by a long meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping on February 4 - the beginning of the Chinese Lunar New Year celebrations and the Beijing Winter Olympic Games. At the end of that meeting, the two men released a 5,000-word, carefully drafted document announcing a close partnership between their two countries. The document is stronger than any treaty and must have required detailed negotiations in advance.
I was surprised that Xi appeared to have given Putin carte blanche to invade and wage war against Ukraine. He must be very confident that his confirmation as China's ruler for life later this year will be a mere formality. Having concentrated all power in his own hands, Xi has carefully scripted the scenario by which he will be elevated to the level of Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping.
https://www.project-syndicate.org/comme...
BlaY0 ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/stat...
NEW: "We have information that Putin felt misled by the Russian military," the U.S. official tells me. "There is now persistent tension between Putin and the MOD (Ministry of Defense), stemming from Putin's mistrust in MOD leadership."
na misel mi pride Sergei Shoigu, res so pokazali nek posnetek par dni nazaj, da naj bi bil živ in zdrav, pa vseeno...
Po moje Putin ni vedel, da so v enotah tudi naborniki.
Baje res ni vedel. Kolikor sem slišal od pro-rusov, je dva tedna po začetku invazije izdal ukaz da se nabornikov brez ustrezne usposobljenosti ne sme pošiljati v Ukrajino, in da če oficirji tega ne bodo upoštevali bodo kaznovani. Nisem šel iskat dokumenta, tako da nisem 100%.
cias ::
sir_mha ::
Ker je za neke tukaj to hot topika:
https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/150...
Ukrainian army has found Nazi symbolics amid other captured Russian uniforms. Most probably it belongs to Russian "Wagner" troops, who are led by an open Nazi admirer Dmitry Utkin who is a friend of Vladimir Putin.
https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/150...
BlaY0 ::
Sej sem že povedal, sam kle bomo najebal samo v EU s cenami. To je verjetno tud ideja.
Predolgo smo molčali, sedaj smo kaznovani.
Se pravi Rusi se sprašujejo zakaj jih niso sankcionirali preden so oni sankcionirali njih? Al kako?
Ker je za neke tukaj to hot topika:
Ukrainian army has found Nazi symbolics amid other captured Russian uniforms. Most probably it belongs to Russian "Wagner" troops, who are led by an open Nazi admirer Dmitry Utkin who is a friend of Vladimir Putin.
https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/150...
Mislim da ni države na svetu, v kateri ne bi bilo niti enega fetišista/fašista/nacista.
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BorutO ::
Ruski predstavniki pa pravijo, da je Putin Macronu dejal, da "se morajo ukrajinski nacionalistični borci prenehati upirati in morajo položiti orožje, da bi lahko razrešili težko humanitarni situacijo v mestu".
... in potem so vse ukrajinci krivi, da imajo tam humanitarno krizo... Ta Putler je res čisto prizadet v glavi. Človek napada to mesto, in zdaj oni niso nič krivi... Očitno Putler hoče še tam sredi ukrajine izobesiti rusko zastavo. Ni ti ukrajina rusija, putler...
... in potem so vse ukrajinci krivi, da imajo tam humanitarno krizo... Ta Putler je res čisto prizadet v glavi. Človek napada to mesto, in zdaj oni niso nič krivi... Očitno Putler hoče še tam sredi ukrajine izobesiti rusko zastavo. Ni ti ukrajina rusija, putler...
g. Oden ::
Sej sem že povedal, sam kle bomo najebal samo v EU s cenami. To je verjetno tud ideja.
Predolgo smo molčali, sedaj smo kaznovani.
Se pravi Rusi se sprašujejo zakaj jih niso sankcionirali preden so oni sankcionirali njih? Al kako?
Tako je, kje so bili Rusi leta 2003, ko bi lahko sankcionirali in obsodili napad na Irak. Zdaj obsojati za 20 let nazaj je žal prepozno in glede na zadnje dogodke tudi licemersko.
TezkoDihanje ::
Sej sem že povedal, sam kle bomo najebal samo v EU s cenami. To je verjetno tud ideja.
Predolgo smo molčali, sedaj smo kaznovani.
Tile so Merkolovi govorili, naj ne leze v Putinovo rit po 2014.
"Kaznovani" bomo izključno zaradi njene politike.
Ruski predstavniki pa pravijo, da je Putin Macronu dejal, da "se morajo ukrajinski nacionalistični borci prenehati upirati in morajo položiti orožje, da bi lahko razrešili težko humanitarni situacijo v mestu".
... in potem so vse ukrajinci krivi, da imajo tam humanitarno krizo... Ta Putler je res čisto prizadet v glavi. Človek napada to mesto, in zdaj oni niso nič krivi... Očitno Putler hoče še tam sredi ukrajine izobesiti rusko zastavo. Ni ti ukrajina rusija, putler...
V tem mestu je živelo cca 45% Rusov pred vojno (okoli 200 tisoč). Tako da so ukrajinskim Rusom, sedaj ruski Rusi porušili celo mesto. Obnovili ga ne bodo.
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fur80 ::
Ruski predstavniki pa pravijo, da je Putin Macronu dejal, da "se morajo ukrajinski nacionalistični borci prenehati upirati in morajo položiti orožje, da bi lahko razrešili težko humanitarni situacijo v mestu".
... in potem so vse ukrajinci krivi, da imajo tam humanitarno krizo... Ta Putler je res čisto prizadet v glavi. Človek napada to mesto, in zdaj oni niso nič krivi... Očitno Putler hoče še tam sredi ukrajine izobesiti rusko zastavo. Ni ti ukrajina rusija, putler...
Moraš vedeti, da je Putin zelo mali! Sedaj je mali in še psihopat po vrhu, takim pod 1,70cm sploh ne bi smeli zaupati nekih visokih položajev, ker nikoli ne veš, kdaj ga bo kompleks zanesel! ;)
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Fritz ::
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
s1m0n ::
Očitno je padel še drugi Bayraktar dron.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1509...
Še vedno ceneje kot pa da izgubiš pilota in letalo… Ali pa da se pilotu padalo sploh ne odpre… (Russia patent pending)
sir_mha ::
Tale gospa pa ve kaj govori. Primerjave s Sirijo. Je cela nit informacij.
https://twitter.com/HannaNotte/status/1...
Having worked in Moscow when #Russia intervened in #Syria in 2015 & engaged RUS officials/experts on #Syria for yrs, I see 5 parallels in approach to #Ukraine vs #Syria
1. Sequential war
2. Encirclement/corridors
3. "Human shield" claims
4. Foreign fighters
5. CW claims
Thread.
https://twitter.com/HannaNotte/status/1...
bbbbbb2015 ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
V tem mestu je živelo cca 45% Rusov pred vojno (okoli 200 tisoč). Tako da so ukrajinskim Rusom, sedaj ruski Rusi porušili celo mesto. Obnovili ga ne bodo.
Pri teh ruskih Rusih in ukrajinskih Rusih moraš biti malo bolj natančen. V Mariupolu je cca 45% ljudi govorilo rusko. Cca 35% jih je imelo neke ruske korenine (starši iz Rusije, stari starši, ipd., mešani zakoni). To niso Rusi, ampak Ukrajinci, imajo ukrajinsko državljanstvo.
Pred vojno so bili do neke mere stigmatizirani, ker so Ukrajinci nekaj forsirali ukrajinski jezik, v veliko fabrikah, tehnični dokumentaciji je bilo še vse v ruščini.
Nato so Mariupol sesuli. Lokalci ocenjujejo, da je od teh 35% sigurno 30% prizadetih, zrušili so jim stavbo ali naredili neko drugo škodo. Trdno so prepričani da se Ukrajincem godi krivica, ker se noben spor ne bi smel reševati na ta način. Večina jih je šla v ukrajinsko vojsko.
Od teh preostalih 5% pa je miks čudnih ljudi. Eni se nočejo boriti proti Rusom. Ne odobravajo početja Rusov, a borili se ne bodo. Eni so agitatorji in diverzanti in spotterji, ki pomagajo Rusom. Taki so redki, a so. Eni so odšli na nasprotno stran v Donbas. S tem, da v Donbasu tudi ne cvetijo rože in so prišli nazaj v Mariupol. Ukrajinci jih v glavnem tretirajo kot vohune. Čeprav prišleki razlagajo, da nimajo kam iti. Ter da jih povsod tretirajo kot vohune in niso nikjer doma (več). Malo me spominjajo na naše izbrisane.
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Poldi112 ::
Si se vprašal kaj so Rusi naredili v Groznem? Ukrajina je tako velika in tako se upira, da lahko Rusi zmečejo vse orožje kaj ga imajo, potem so pa gotovi, Ukrajina ima ali bo imela neomejeno orožja! Pustimo zaj nuke in osalo, ker potem je tako konec!
Razmerje moči je 1:10, ampak eni padate na pravljice, da rusi nimajo za bombe...
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
TezkoDihanje ::
Še vedno samo navijanje in nabijanje v tej temi.
https://johnmenadue.com/cameron-leckie-...
začnem brat... aha, kup dreka (zakaj? zato, ker se je Rusija naravnost osmešila s to akcijo)...
spodaj o avtorju
"Cameron Leckie served as an officer in the Australian Army for 24 years. An agricultural engineer, he is currently a PhD candidate."
Zakaj bi nekdo linkal tole govno od "agricultural engineer"-ja?
Pac-Man ::
Predolgo smo molčali, sedaj smo kaznovani.
Rusija ne zna drugega kot pobirat meme in teorije zarot s spleta? Sem precej prepričan, da ste tole fotko že lepili.
Tudi pri MH17 je precej njihovih izgovorov nastalo po receptu "internet says".
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
cias ::
Rusija ne zna drugega kot pobirat meme in teorije zarot s spleta?
Kje maš posnetke Trumpa ko urinira po postelji?
Kdaj boš kaj poročal kaj ima sinko od ameriškega predsednika na prenosniku?
A je to drago?
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fur80 ::
Si se vprašal kaj so Rusi naredili v Groznem? Ukrajina je tako velika in tako se upira, da lahko Rusi zmečejo vse orožje kaj ga imajo, potem so pa gotovi, Ukrajina ima ali bo imela neomejeno orožja! Pustimo zaj nuke in osalo, ker potem je tako konec!
Razmerje moči je 1:10, ampak eni padate na pravljice, da rusi nimajo za bombe...
Čessa je razmerja 1:10? Bomb? To bodo doblili Ukrajinci v neomejenih količinah? Česa, ljudi? To je 144 miljonska država proti 45 miljonski, se pravi, daje 1:3! Denarja? Rusija ima BDP na ravni Španije, verjamem, da je NATO sposoben zagotovit Ukrajini veliko veliko več. Samo USA ima vojaški proračun velik kot ima Rusija polovico oz 3/4 BDP-ja!
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Poldi112 ::
Rusi sploh ne vejo, kako so se zafrknili z vsem tem, ne samo lokalno, pač pa tudi globalno.
Alternativa, ko jih NATO popolnoma obkoli in jim EU prepove trgovanje z Ukrajino, bi bila po tvojem za njih boljša izbira?
Prej so uspeli furati nek mit, da so ne vem kakšna nepremagljiva vojska,
Kdo (poleg tebe) naj bi še verjel v ta mit?
Še glede nuklearnega orožja je vprašanje, koliko so zadeve operativne.
Relevanca?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Scaramouche ::
Edino, kar še ostane, so tiste nukice, ki bi dejansko poletele, pa da so na hipersoničnih raketah oziroma na eni od par preostalih strateških podmornic.
Tudi če je večino res, imajo Rusi skoraj večino tega keša investiranega v rakete in tam kažejo da imajo celo neko premoč!
Zato je neumno njih dajati v kot s sankcijami in zdaj mogoče še NATO vojsko na vse meje!
Ranjena žival je najbolj nevarna!
Poldi112 ::
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
TezkoDihanje ::
Pac-Man ::
Tako je, kje so bili Rusi leta 2003, ko bi lahko sankcionirali in obsodili napad na Irak. Zdaj obsojati za 20 let nazaj je žal prepozno in glede na zadnje dogodke tudi licemersko.
Žalostno, Moskva je zmogla samo 400 protestnikov proti iraški vojni. Kijiv 2000.
15 February 2003 anti-war protests @ Wikipedia
In Russia, which had several demonstrations, the largest occurred in Moscow, with 400 people (WSWS estimate) in attendance.[19]
There was also a demonstration in Ukraine of around 2,000 people (USA Today estimate) joined a "Rock against the war" rally in Kyiv's central square.[18]
Spain saw demonstrations in around 55 cities and towns across the country;[18] the largest was probably in the capital city Madrid, where between 660,000 (Government source's estimate) and 2,000,000 (GLW estimate) took part in what was probably the biggest demonstration since the death of the fascist dictator Francisco Franco in 1975.[18] Barcelona also had a large, with estimates of 350,000 (Delegación de Gobierno), 1,300,000 (Barcelona city hall and Police) or 1,500,000 (GLW) people[31] joining a demonstration which moved from the Passeig de Gràcia to the Plaça de Tetuan.
The British Stop the War Coalition (Stop) claimed the protest in London was the largest political demonstration in the city's history. Police estimated attendance as well in excess of 750,000 people[39] and the BBC estimated that around a million attended.[40]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Poldi112 ::
Čessa je razmerja 1:10? Bomb? To bodo doblili Ukrajinci v neomejenih količinah? Česa, ljudi? To je 144 miljonska država proti 45 miljonski, se pravi, daje 1:3! Denarja? Rusija ima BDP na ravni Španije, verjamem, da je NATO sposoben zagotovit Ukrajini veliko veliko več. Samo USA ima vojaški proračun velik kot ima Rusija polovico oz 3/4 BDP-ja!
Simpatično. Kaj točno misliš, da bo NATO priskrbel Ukrajini, če jim niti jebenih starih letal ne upa poslati?
Ter kaj bodo naredili proti vedno bolj intenzivnemu bombardiranju? Že sedaj, ko se rusi precej nazaj držijo, je škoda hudo asimetrična, ti pa sanjaš o neki zmagi Ukrajine.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
TezkoDihanje ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
Razmerje moči je 1:10
Med kom?
Ukrajino in Rusijo.
Lahko, da je, ampak zadnje 3 tedne so več ozemlja pridobili Ukrajinci, kot pa so ga izgubili. In to ne malo.
Kako si to eni predstavljate, da pa sedaj, ko je Rusija vžgala po Ukrajini, da pa zdaj to pomeni prenos moči iz Zahoda na Vzhod?? Kaj imate to eno slamo v svojih glavah?
Zahod ima neprimerno bogatejše prebivalstvo, močnejše gospodarstvo in neprimerno močnejšo vojsko.