Kateri Linux za strežnik??

Predlagam najbolj razširjeni distribuciji, RED HAT ali
SuSE, ker sta najlažje konfigurabilni, jaz imam sicer
Red Hat na serverju in SuSE na workstationu.
Vse kar rabiš ( Apache server, ftp in www server...)
dobiš zraven na CD.

Ce bi me pred enim mesecem vprasal, bi ti rekel za server RH, zdaj pa zagotovo ni boljse izbire ko Debian. Zadeva lepo laufa in ma zelo dobro porihtane paketke, kar enostavno rula napram RH-ja Edino kar moras pazit da potegnes dol testing verzijo in ne stabel verzijo, ker stabel se nima 2.4 kernela Pa za osnovni install ne rabis vec kod samo prvi cd, ostalo lahko zemeraj potegnes dol iz neta. Vec infota pa dobis tule:www.debian.org

Kar se pa tice ostalih servisov, od weba, maila... pa mas ze skoraj vse zraven. Priporocam ti da se odpravis semle :www.linuxdoc.org in preberes par howtojev.

Kar se pa tice remote administracije pa ti verjetno SSH zadostuje, katerega pa tudi dobis zraven distribucije

Problem Debiana je samo v tem, da rabis precej casa da se naucis vseh skritih for ki jih ima, pa imena paketov so vcasih malo cudna... Drugac pa takoj ko mas vec kot par masin, za katere moras skrbet, Debian caruje.

Jaz sem se po dolgem casu naucil delat svoje pakete (noja...naucil sem se prirejat pakete drugih ljudi, naredit paket novejse verzije ipd.) in imam zdaj svoj repository, v katerega pac mecem stvari, ki jih debianovci zaradi takih ali drugacnih razlogov ne dajo takoj v distribucijo.

Ni sans da bi po lastni volji se kdaj uporabljal kaksno RPM-based distribucijo. Slackware mogoce, ker sem na njem zacel in ga se zdaj kar obvladam, ampak potem se pa izbira konca :-)

Aja se to...kdor bi se res rad naucil Linuxa in ima cas (jaz sem ga takrat v srednji soli imel na pretek) naj poskusi kaksnega pol leta ali leto (lahko pa tudi vec ce mu pase :-) uporabljat slackware. Naucis se dosti dosti stvari. Meni ni zal.

lp,
Borut.

KDE V2.0 je "not".
Za minimalno instalacijo rabis samo dve disketi + dostop do Interneta.Ako zelis instalirati iz CDjev, rabis vsaj prva dva. Zrcalo Debiana imas na ftp ali http://ftp.si.debian.org

prvi cd/iso = potato-i386-1.raw
drugi cd/iso = potato-i386-2.raw
itd.

ta link dela. torej ni testni. ce vsebuje jedro?...ne...prazen je....samo olupek dobis...much like your head.
ok...sedaj pa resno. To je STABLE (stabilna) verzija Debian distribucije in seveda ima tudi jedro. Sicer ne bi delalo. doh? Ce se bos bavil z Debianom ti priporocam ogled te strani

Zakaj je za high-end serverje dobro met TurboLinux? Od kje ti ta informacija? Mogoce iz press materiala tiste slovenske firme ki dela zanje?

TurboLinux ni med resnimi uporabniki cisto nic priljubljen...koliko so resni pa si lahko ogledas tukaj.

Vse resni vendorji so v zadnjem mesecu izdali 2 advisory-ja: apache in ssh. TurboLinux ni izdal nobenega od januarja letos. Mislis da programi, ki jih prilagajo distribuciji niso ranljivi?

Toliko o tem koliko skrbijo za svoje stranke.

lp,
Borut.

Se mau o turbolinuxu:

DESCRIPTION

As of the time of this report, the last security update announced on
the US TurboLinux website (http://www.turbolinux.com/security/) was
on January 24, 2002, regarding a problem in xinetd. The last security
updates released on the official US FTP site were on February 8,
2002. Additionally, the US TurboLinux security announcement mailing
list (http://www.TurboLinux.com/pipermail/tl-... has
been inactive since January 2002 as well. Inferring from these
lapses, it would seem that TurboLinux Inc.'s Linux distribution
contains multiple security vulnerabilities that remain exploitable at
the time of this advisory. The security patches necessary to patch
these systems are in fact available on the TurboLinux Japanese
servers.

This is the second time TurboLinux has let security support for its
US products lapse for an extended period, the first being about two
years ago, when budget cutbacks resulted in the Linux distribution
security staff at TurboLinux being let go. It was not until several
months later that new security staff was hired (at the time only a
single person) and security updates for the products were made
available once again.

Because of this security lag in the US notification and security
update sites, administrators may have also lapsed in installing
updates. Since the last US update, this includes more than a dozen
serious issues, ranging from remote root compromise via anonymous
access to local root compromises. A number of these problems are
present in software packages that are mandatory (such as zlib) or
very popular (such as Apache, OpenSSH, OpenSSL, at, squid, etc.).


VENDOR RESPONSE

Marjo Mercado, Director of Solutions and Support, pointed out the
availability of updates on the Japanese servers. He could not
provide an explanation as to why the US servers had not been synced
in months.

Updated packages for the above security issues are available at:

ftp://ftp.turbolinux.co.jp/pub/TurboLinux/stable/tested/6
ftp://ftp.turbolinux.co.jp/pub/TurboLinux/stable/tested/7
and ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/mirrors/ftp.turbolinux.co.jp/stable

Additionally while it may be inconvenient to many non-Japanese
customers, users can also get notification of new security issues in
Japanese for the time being from
http://the.turbolinux.co.jp/bugzilla/.

Ok. Debiana se da tudi instalirat s pomočjo par disket in povezave na i-net. Ampak je manj jebe zapečt prvi CD in instalirat.
Ni prav zelo pomembno katero verzijo boš dal gor. Recimo 2.2r6. OK Potem pride catch. V /etc/apt/sources.list popraviš vnose
iz STABLE na WOODY in v konzoli poženeš apt-get dist-upgrade. Inštalacija se ti bo prepisala s trenutno "nestabilno" (khmmmm
tole unstable jemlji z VEEELIKO rezervo). Kernel pa mislim da moraš ročno prevest (se ne zamenja z 2.4.x) Aja v X okolju je zelo fino orodje
za manipuliranje z naloženim programjem synaptic. Precej bolj pregledno kot dselect v konzoli... Apt-get pa itak rula...
Malo pa še kak readme preberi ter sa poigraj, da ti bo jasno o čem govorim...


by!

P.S. Priiiimož daj že napedenaj prelome vrst v Mozili. Prosim!

PaJo : Kako se pa imenuje testna različica debiana, ker jih je na teh strežnikih, do katerih si ti dal link veliko ?

Ime testne distrubucije je woody, rabis pa le prvi cd, ostalo lahko iz neta potegnes.
Drugace pa si dobil ze dosti zelo dobrih predlogov kako in kaj stvar ustimat

Mimo grede že vlečem testno verzijo del.
Tako, da strežnik bo kmalu.